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Title: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 11, 2022, 10:30:49 AM
The following is a list of players who are in the portal

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/TransferPortal/

Hopefully MU can get a pogo stick or two out of the process .
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 11, 2022, 10:31:44 AM
To assuage panic, maybe rename to "2022 Transfer Portal Thread"
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 11, 2022, 10:33:13 AM
To assuage panic, maybe rename to "2022 Transfer Portal Thread"
Panic assuaged 😎
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 11, 2022, 10:50:44 AM
Gerald Liddell is a former Shaka guy at UT.  He didn't play much at UT, but did improve his numbers against lesser competition this year at Alabama St.  Former top 50 prospect.  I wouldn't be surprised if we reach out (assuming he an Shaka have a good relationship)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on March 11, 2022, 11:03:29 AM
Gerald Liddell is a former Shaka guy at UT.  He didn't play much at UT, but did improve his numbers against lesser competition this year at Alabama St.  Former top 50 prospect.  I wouldn't be surprised if we reach out (assuming he an Shaka have a good relationship)

I assume he's immediately eligible due to the coaching change at Alabama St.?

Who knows if he and Shaka had a great relationship - Shaka didn't bring him with the first time around. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 11, 2022, 11:07:23 AM
I assume he's immediately eligible due to the coaching change at Alabama St.?

Who knows if he and Shaka had a great relationship - Shaka didn't bring him with the first time around.

Article said he is eligible if he graduates.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 11, 2022, 11:09:55 AM
Not much in the portal so far.  I expect that to change as teams see their season come to an end.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 11, 2022, 11:10:57 AM
Not much in the portal so far.  I expect that to change as teams see their season come to an end.

We'll see. I think you may be correct........
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter Flatch on March 12, 2022, 04:33:11 PM
Is there anyone of interest who might become available due to the coaching changes at Missouri and LSU?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 12, 2022, 05:06:33 PM
Brandon Murray started as a freshman at LSU, and was Justin Lewis' HS teammate.  Big, physical 6'5 wing.  He could play here for sure.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 12, 2022, 06:33:41 PM
Is there anyone of interest who might become available due to the coaching changes at Missouri and LSU?

Based on the coaches, might have to pony up to get those transfers from those schools...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 12, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
Brandon Murray started as a freshman at LSU, and was Justin Lewis' HS teammate.  Big, physical 6'5 wing.  He could play here for sure.

Could definitely use him or Tari Eason.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 12, 2022, 07:03:35 PM
Could definitely use him or Tari Eason.

Tari Eason will be in the Association next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on March 12, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
Badger butt heads are insisting PBJ is transferring to Bucky.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2022, 07:25:50 PM
Badger butt heads are insisting PBJ is transferring to Bucky.

Who is saying this?  I haven’t seen it anywhere?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 12, 2022, 07:29:54 PM
If you can have an NBA career like Sam Dekker, why wouldn’t you go to Wisky as a tall athletic wing
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 12, 2022, 07:35:46 PM
Only transfer MU has reached out too so far is Jaylen Gainey. He is a Grad Transfer from Brown. Has good blocks and offensive rebounding percentage. Could be a decent 5 man. I don't know if he'll finish as marquettes main target, but his interest is a key indication of what marquette is looking for.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 12, 2022, 07:36:56 PM
Only transfer MU has reached out too so far is Jaylen Gainey. He is a Grad Transfer from Brown. Has good blocks and offensive rebounding percentage. Could be a decent 5 man. I don't know if he'll finish as marquettes main target, but his interest is a key indication of what marquette is looking for.
Plays like a Shaka 5 in his highlights.  Athletic, dunker, rim protector.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on March 12, 2022, 07:58:27 PM
The usual “I know an insider” BS.


Who is saying this?  I haven’t seen it anywhere?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 12, 2022, 08:06:30 PM
I heard the PBJ rumor a week ago from someone who isn’t a college basketball fan at all. I think it’d be dumb of him not to go to the NBA.

I think the sell from UW is easy. “Step right in to Johnny’s spot, be a 2 and done like he was.”
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2022, 08:16:38 PM
I heard the PBJ rumor a week ago from someone who isn’t a college basketball fan at all. I think it’d be dumb of him not to go to the NBA.

I think the sell from UW is east. “Step right in to Johnny’s spot, be a 2 and done like he was.”

He’s going pro. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2022, 09:15:49 AM
I definitely wouldnt mind if Shaka looked this way to start.

https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1503488110969163780
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 15, 2022, 09:35:45 AM
Who is saying this?  I haven’t seen it anywhere?

I had someone with direct ties to D1 hoops tell me this rumor last week.

There isn't anything more than it being a rumor to this point to my knowledge.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 15, 2022, 09:41:17 AM
Where is Joey graduate transferring to?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 15, 2022, 09:45:07 AM
Where is Joey graduate transferring to?

Maybe Minnesota this time just to really give the middle finger to UW?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wildbillsb on March 15, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Badger butt heads are insisting PBJ is transferring to Bucky.

Duh, who is PBJ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on March 15, 2022, 09:55:17 AM
Pat Baldwin, Jr  (son of PBS, Pat Baldwin, Sr who was UW-M's coach up to a few weeks a go).

Duh, who is PBJ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2022, 09:57:26 AM
I had someone with direct ties to D1 hoops tell me this rumor last week.

There isn't anything more than it being a rumor to this point to my knowledge.

If he stays in college, he’s getting terrible advice
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 15, 2022, 10:01:55 AM
I'd be floored if Baldwin isn't in the NBA next year. Even with his terrible season he's still a first rounder pretty much everywhere. If he does transfer, I have to imagine it will be to a coach with a track record of NBA picks. That's not Greg Gard.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 15, 2022, 10:14:45 AM
If he stays in college, he’s getting terrible advice

Totally agree.  If he has another bad year, he becomes undraftable.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 15, 2022, 10:19:33 AM
If he stays in college, he’s getting terrible advice

I agree.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2022, 10:50:48 AM
I'd be floored if Baldwin isn't in the NBA next year. Even with his terrible season he's still a first rounder pretty much everywhere. If he does transfer, I have to imagine it will be to a coach with a track record of NBA picks. That's not Greg Gard.

He has a top 5 pick at the same position PBJ would play this year...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 15, 2022, 10:53:43 AM
He has a top 5 pick at the same position PBJ would play this year...

Would have been number 1 if he had gone g-league this year and concentrated on basketball with better coaches and trainers. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 15, 2022, 11:13:57 AM
He has a top 5 pick at the same position PBJ would play this year...

Thats not a track record.  Just like Anthony Grant doesn't have a track record of lottery picks just cause Obi Toppin went top 10.  Its not like PBJ was super intrigued by Wisconsin before choosing to go to UWM with Pops
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on March 15, 2022, 11:19:58 AM
Maybe Minnesota this time just to really give the middle finger to UW?
Seems more like an Iowa fit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 15, 2022, 11:25:59 AM
He has a top 5 pick at the same position PBJ would play this year...

Davis and Baldwin play completely different roles though.  Davis is an on ball shot creator and Baldwin is an off ball spot up shooter.

Baldwin struggled to create his own shot against Horizon league teams.  Anyone thinking PBJ would replicate what Davis did is foolish.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 15, 2022, 11:33:12 AM
Seems more like an Iowa fit.

Id assume Iowa State, now that Otz is there.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 1318WWells on March 15, 2022, 11:34:33 AM
Would have been number 1 if he had gone g-league this year and concentrated on basketball with better coaches and trainers.

Teal?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BM1090 on March 15, 2022, 11:51:29 AM
I can’t believe this is even a discussion. He’ll be in the NBA next season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 15, 2022, 12:28:03 PM
Thats not a track record.  Just like Anthony Grant doesn't have a track record of lottery picks just cause Obi Toppin went top 10.  Its not like PBJ was super intrigued by Wisconsin before choosing to go to UWM with Pops

Exactly. When you've been at a job 7 years and are just getting your first guy drafted, and have no other prospects on the roster or in the recruiting pipeline, that's not a trend, it's lightning striking once.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2022, 12:34:22 PM
I definitely wouldnt mind if Shaka looked this way to start.

https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1503488110969163780
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1503764119966687235

Yeah that didnt take long
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 15, 2022, 12:54:38 PM
Teal?

Yes
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2022, 12:57:42 PM
Davis and Baldwin play completely different roles though.  Davis is an on ball shot creator and Baldwin is an off ball spot up shooter.

Baldwin struggled to create his own shot against Horizon league teams.  Anyone thinking PBJ would replicate what Davis did is foolish.

Baldwin struggled to create his own shot against Horizon League teams because his teammates were about as good as I am.  When you can focus all 5 guys on stopping one player on the other team, it's hard to get going.

If PBJ were to play at UW next season, he could very easily be a First Team All American (or if he went to MU, or any number of high major schools), and he'd most likely do it more efficiently than Johnny Davis did.  There's a reason he was a top 5 prospect and a projected top 10 pick going into this season.  He's far more than a "spot up shooter."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 15, 2022, 01:05:14 PM
Where is Joey graduate transferring to?

The rich Marquette alumni have reversed course and will now be paying Joey Hauser to transfer to UW for his final season of eligibility.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 15, 2022, 02:27:06 PM
Baldwin struggled to create his own shot against Horizon League teams because his teammates were about as good as I am.  When you can focus all 5 guys on stopping one player on the other team, it's hard to get going.

If PBJ were to play at UW next season, he could very easily be a First Team All American (or if he went to MU, or any number of high major schools), and he'd most likely do it more efficiently than Johnny Davis did.  There's a reason he was a top 5 prospect and a projected top 10 pick going into this season.  He's far more than a "spot up shooter."

Don't take my word for it.  Here's a scouting breakdown of Baldwin's weaknesses.


https://twitter.com/GlobalScouting_/status/1500912884993433600?t=wyiAlMB9IR9BocQDs5YFkQ&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/GlobalScouting_/status/1500912884993433600?t=wyiAlMB9IR9BocQDs5YFkQ&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 15, 2022, 02:42:50 PM
More of Pat Baldwin not looking like a number one option.  Not exactly being swarmed by the opposing defense either.


https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1491594618617614337?t=lXOup6QoTPFGSJltEl1hFA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1491594618617614337?t=lXOup6QoTPFGSJltEl1hFA&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 15, 2022, 02:50:02 PM
Couldn't Baldwin's injuries have caused the problems being pointed out in those videos?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2022, 03:03:56 PM
Couldn't Baldwin's injuries have caused the problems being pointed out in those videos?

Injuries but more the fact that if you watch the video teams like Florida are literally just leaving a UWM player wide open and straight up double teaming Baldwin on the perimeter, with help defenders just waiting in the paint for him.

Obviously Baldwin has some areas that he needs to improve, but UWM was an absolutely horrendous team, and Baldwin was the only player any team had to worry about.

I watched Baldwin play up on Phenom U with Reece Beekman (starter at UVA  his freshman and sophomore years), Jamari Sibley (transferred from Georgetown to UTEP), Jalen Johnson (Duke, first round NBA pick), and others a number of times and he was by far the best player on that team.  He wasn't a top 5 prospect and a projected top 10 NBA draft pick going into college by being a "spot up shooter."  He's a very, very good all around offensive player and if he goes pro, he'll be a steal in the back end of the first round.

Johnny Davis averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds as a freshman.  The idea that if Baldwin didn't have the eyes of all 5 defenders on him at all times and played with at least semi-competent teammates he wouldn't make a huge leap from his disappointing freshman year is silly.  If he was looking to transfer (which I don't think he would be) it would be an awful day for Marquette if he chose to go to UW.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 15, 2022, 03:05:54 PM
Injuries but more the fact that if you watch the video teams like Florida are literally just leaving a UWM player wide open and straight up double teaming Baldwin on the perimeter, with help defenders just waiting in the paint for him.

Obviously Baldwin has some areas that he needs to improve, but UWM was an absolutely horrendous team, and Baldwin was the only player any team had to worry about.

I watched Baldwin play up on Phenom U with Reece Beekman (starter at UVA  his freshman and sophomore years), Jamari Sibley (transferred from Georgetown to UTEP), Jalen Johnson (Duke, first round NBA pick), and others a number of times and he was by far the best player on that team.  He wasn't a top 5 prospect and a projected top 10 NBA draft pick going into college by being a "spot up shooter."  He's a very, very good all around offensive player and if he goes pro, he'll be a steal in the back end of the first round.

I did not see him play but I heard talk of Joplin outplaying him in high school. True?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2022, 03:06:04 PM
Injuries but more the fact that if you watch the video teams like Florida are literally just leaving a UWM player wide open and straight up double teaming Baldwin on the perimeter, with help defenders just waiting in the paint for him.

Obviously Baldwin has some areas that he needs to improve, but UWM was an absolutely horrendous team, and Baldwin was the only player any team had to worry about.

I watched Baldwin play up on Phenom U with Reece Beekman (starter at UVA  his freshman and sophomore years), Jamari Sibley (transferred from Georgetown to UTEP), Jalen Johnson (Duke, first round NBA pick), and others a number of times and he was by far the best player on that team.  He wasn't a top 5 prospect and a projected top 10 NBA draft pick going into college by being a "spot up shooter."  He's a very, very good all around offensive player and if he goes pro, he'll be a steal in the back end of the first round.

Plus, there’s no way his credits transfer to UW-MADISON 😂
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2022, 03:07:57 PM
I did not see him play but I heard talk of Joplin outplaying him in high school. True?

I saw them playing when the summer between Beekman's/Sibley's/Johnson's junior and senior year in high school, which was between Baldwin's sophomore and junior year.  I did not see Joplin much in high school, but I would guess he did in their high school senior season.  I believe Baldwin got injured during the high school season and may not have even finished the season?  I can't remember.  But I believe Joplin broke Riley LaChance's scoring record at Brookfield Central.

Edit: It looks like Jalen Johnson won Gatorade Player of the Year in Wisconsin his senior season, Baldwin won it his senior season, and Podziemski won it this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 15, 2022, 04:08:41 PM
Couldn't Baldwin's injuries have caused the problems being pointed out in those videos?

Perhaps, which is why I would still advise him to go pro.  Chalk this year up to injuries.  Force GMs to use his high school play to project his potential.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 15, 2022, 04:42:29 PM
Injuries but more the fact that if you watch the video teams like Florida are literally just leaving a UWM player wide open and straight up double teaming Baldwin on the perimeter, with help defenders just waiting in the paint for him.

Obviously Baldwin has some areas that he needs to improve, but UWM was an absolutely horrendous team, and Baldwin was the only player any team had to worry about.

I watched Baldwin play up on Phenom U with Reece Beekman (starter at UVA  his freshman and sophomore years), Jamari Sibley (transferred from Georgetown to UTEP), Jalen Johnson (Duke, first round NBA pick), and others a number of times and he was by far the best player on that team.  He wasn't a top 5 prospect and a projected top 10 NBA draft pick going into college by being a "spot up shooter."  He's a very, very good all around offensive player and if he goes pro, he'll be a steal in the back end of the first round.

Johnny Davis averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds as a freshman.  The idea that if Baldwin didn't have the eyes of all 5 defenders on him at all times and played with at least semi-competent teammates he wouldn't make a huge leap from his disappointing freshman year is silly.  If he was looking to transfer (which I don't think he would be) it would be an awful day for Marquette if he chose to go to UW.
100%. I live in his HS district. PBJ is the deal. Got hurt his sr year, and a lot this year too. In HS, Joplin played him tough.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 15, 2022, 08:59:17 PM
@JamieShaw5: Northwestern St freshman transfer 6-8 Kendal Coleman tells @On3Recruits he has heard from Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texas Tech, Iowa St, Marquette, Loyola-Chicago, etc. since entering the portal #On3

All-Southland & All Defense averaged 15.4 points, 10.1 boards, 1.3 blocks
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 15, 2022, 09:25:01 PM
I love the transfer portal. Can’t wait to see who we get.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 15, 2022, 09:30:01 PM
Shouldn't Shaka be focusing on game plan!?  :P
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 15, 2022, 10:16:19 PM
Shouldn't Shaka be focusing on game plan!?  :P

Why? No need to. The strategy thread is a goldmine of game planning ideas.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 15, 2022, 10:20:08 PM
Why? No need to. The strategy thread is a goldmine of game planning ideas.

I laughed. Well played.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 16, 2022, 09:03:40 PM
Jalen Bridges from WVU is likely the best transfer so far to enter the portal. He is a very good offensive rebounder for a wing/forward too. Has very good on off numbers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 16, 2022, 09:30:07 PM
Jalen Bridges from WVU is likely the best transfer so far to enter the portal. He is a very good offensive rebounder for a wing/forward too. Has very good on off numbers.

From what I've been told, we were in the driver's seat for his services until Brett Nelson took the HC HC job.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 16, 2022, 09:48:00 PM
From what I've been told, we were in the driver's seat for his services until Brett Nelson took the HC HC job.
I heard something similar. But in hindsight i feel like everything i was told about the former staff should be taken with a grain of salt. One year out and it does not seem like any of them are thriving. Killings was the only coach that came within a mile of his preseason expectations.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 16, 2022, 09:58:14 PM
Jalen Bridges from WVU is likely the best transfer so far to enter the portal. He is a very good offensive rebounder for a wing/forward too. Has very good on off numbers.

Sign him up
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on March 18, 2022, 08:18:07 AM
Jalen Bridges from WVU is likely the best transfer so far to enter the portal. He is a very good offensive rebounder for a wing/forward too. Has very good on off numbers.
meh, 42% shooter, 32% from 3. 8 points a game on a team that went 16-17. Aim higher. Joplin is better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 18, 2022, 10:15:05 AM
meh, 42% shooter, 32% from 3. 8 points a game on a team that went 16-17. Aim higher. Joplin is better.

I wouldn't say Joplin is better, but I agree to aim higher.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 18, 2022, 11:19:02 AM
Would like to see MU in on the Isiah Cottrell action

https://www.smokingmusket.com/2022/3/16/22981439/isaiah-cottrell-west-virginia-wvu-mountaineers-transfer-portal-college-basketball
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 18, 2022, 11:26:32 AM
Would like to see MU in on the Isiah Cottrell action

https://www.smokingmusket.com/2022/3/16/22981439/isaiah-cottrell-west-virginia-wvu-mountaineers-transfer-portal-college-basketball

Ummmmmm

No
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 18, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
According to this article MU is not presently in on Bridges or Cottrell

https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/basketball/isaiah-cottrell-jalen-bridges-seeing-major-interest-in-transfer-portal
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TheREALwrk on March 18, 2022, 04:19:56 PM
Rumor has it that Omaha-native Hunter Sallis ( https://247sports.com/player/hunter-sallis-46057844/ ) will be transferring to Creighton next year. Creighton should be great next year if he performs to his recruiting caliber.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Afroman on March 18, 2022, 06:26:10 PM
I vote for Fardaws Aimaq.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 18, 2022, 06:53:20 PM
Rumor has it that Omaha-native Hunter Sallis ( https://247sports.com/player/hunter-sallis-46057844/ ) will be transferring to Creighton next year. Creighton should be great next year if he performs to his recruiting caliber.

Creighton was inches away from both sallis and tyty. its wild
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 18, 2022, 07:55:18 PM
Creighton was inches away from both sallis and tyty. its wild

Make$ one wonder…
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 18, 2022, 08:35:33 PM
This is the target. Should be priority 1, 2, and 3. Set up camp in his front yard. Bring on Fardaws Aimaq.

https://twitter.com/sam_vecenie/status/1504961773497057281?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 18, 2022, 08:39:45 PM
If Aimaq wants 25 million in NIL. Make it happen.

Thats the guy we need.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 18, 2022, 09:16:39 PM
This is the target. Should be priority 1, 2, and 3. Set up camp in his front yard. Bring on Fardaws Aimaq.

https://twitter.com/sam_vecenie/status/1504961773497057281?s=21

24 & 22 against BYU.

15 & 15 against Washington.

Even his “bad” games are like 15 & 5.  Come on down my man
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 18, 2022, 09:37:59 PM
This is the target. Should be priority 1, 2, and 3. Set up camp in his front yard. Bring on Fardaws Aimaq.

https://twitter.com/sam_vecenie/status/1504961773497057281?s=21

He's also exploring the draft.


https://twitter.com/WACHoopsDigest/status/1504961358298714117?t=4dY0XecYruTp5ZuDtjjNuQ&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/WACHoopsDigest/status/1504961358298714117?t=4dY0XecYruTp5ZuDtjjNuQ&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mhendrick on March 18, 2022, 10:03:11 PM
Big body but unathletic. Don't see him as a fit for Shakas system
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 18, 2022, 10:05:15 PM
Big body but unathletic. Don't see him as a fit for Shakas system

We have enough atheltes.

What we dont have are big bodies. He would fit just fine.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 18, 2022, 10:05:35 PM
Big body but unathletic. Don't see him as a fit for Shakas system
late season fader?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mhendrick on March 18, 2022, 10:18:14 PM
Hope we can do better
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 18, 2022, 10:37:39 PM
Big body but unathletic. Don't see him as a fit for Shakas system

Shaka must, because we've already reached out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 18, 2022, 10:40:32 PM
Hope we can do better

A bunch of double double averaging big men are floating around out there?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 18, 2022, 10:44:02 PM
A bunch of double double averaging big men are floating around out there?

Joey Hauser: You can come home again!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on March 18, 2022, 11:13:41 PM
Shaka must, because we've already reached out.

Rather have an athletic player like Oso!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 07:03:01 AM
Who do some of you have your eye on that would be immediate/hammer impact additions to our roster?  I'm taking game changers with a myriad of skills. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 19, 2022, 07:08:47 AM
Who do some of you have your eye on that would be immediate/hammer impact additions to our roster?  I'm taking game changers with a myriad of skills.

Not much in the portal so far.  Fardaws Aimaq is the best target right.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 08:52:08 AM
Not much in the portal so far.  Fardaws Aimaq is the best target right.

Okay.  Ty.  I expect there to be a ton of options with all of the coaching changes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 19, 2022, 08:53:08 AM
Not much in the portal so far.  Fardaws Aimaq is the best target right.

Seems very much like a Gonzaga type
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 08:59:11 AM
Any burner guards out there?  We haven't had a guy with electric speed off the bounce since Wade. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 19, 2022, 09:07:16 AM
Any burner guards out there?  We haven't had a guy with electric speed off the bounce since Wade.

Dominic James and DJO both had elite speed.

The portal hasn't even warmed up yet.  It will as teams get eliminated from the tournament and coaching changes start taking place.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 09:08:36 AM
I know this is a bit la-la-land and I'm asking for a lot but:

1)  Badass Big who can patrol the paint with authority, rebound, step-out and pop some J's, and can physically impose his will.

2) Burner/Jets/Wheels (a.k.a blow by speed) lead guard with prime time handles, crisp torpedo passing, stalwart snake head cutting defending, and the ability to drain the long ball.

3)  A Novakesque spot shooter anywhere from 6'3-6'7.

4)  A glue/jack of all trades guy.  We need that intangible player who makes winning plays on both ends of the floor. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 09:11:36 AM
DJO had tremendous downhill coast to coast speed and Dom had elite athleticism.  I'm looking for a player with tier 1 lateral and vertical quickness and the ability to drop dimes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: FartyEightHours on March 19, 2022, 09:17:13 AM
DJO had tremendous downhill coast to coast speed and Dom had elite athleticism.  I'm looking for a player with tier 1 lateral and vertical quickness and the ability to drop dimes.

J Morant in the portal?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 19, 2022, 09:37:28 AM
I know this is a bit la-la-land and I'm asking for a lot but:

1)  Badass Big who can patrol the paint with authority, rebound, step-out and pop some J's, and can physically impose his will.

2) Burner/Jets/Wheels (a.k.a blow by speed) lead guard with prime time handles, crisp torpedo passing, stalwart snake head cutting defending, and the ability to drain the long ball.

3)  A Novakesque spot shooter anywhere from 6'3-6'7.

4)  A glue/jack of all trades guy.  We need that intangible player who makes winning plays on both ends of the floor.

Considering we only have 1 open scholarship, 2 if Justin leaves, yes, this is la-la-land.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: willie warrior on March 19, 2022, 09:46:45 AM
We have enough atheltes.

What we dont have are big bodies. He would fit just fine.
What Shaka has is limited talent players
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 19, 2022, 09:50:10 AM
Considering we only have 1 open scholarship, 2 if Justin leaves, yes, this is la-la-land.

Does that mean Greg Elliott is done?  Is there a real chance Justin Lewis stays?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2022, 09:51:26 AM
Does that mean Greg Elliott is done?  Is there a real chance Justin Lewis stays?

Elliot is gone
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 19, 2022, 09:52:44 AM
I know this is a bit la-la-land and I'm asking for a lot but:

1)  Badass Big who can patrol the paint with authority, rebound, step-out and pop some J's, and can physically impose his will.

2) Burner/Jets/Wheels (a.k.a blow by speed) lead guard with prime time handles, crisp torpedo passing, stalwart snake head cutting defending, and the ability to drain the long ball.

3)  A Novakesque spot shooter anywhere from 6'3-6'7.

4)  A glue/jack of all trades guy.  We need that intangible player who makes winning plays on both ends of the floor.

Haha which 3 current players are we cutting to allow this to happen?

Also, I think Sean Jones can be #2 and Stevie #4.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 19, 2022, 10:03:16 AM
Elliot is gone

That's what I was expecting.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 19, 2022, 10:18:29 AM
 With the 2 spots, give me a starting wing and a starting 5 and lets roll.  The rest of the spots can be filled by the returning young guys improving.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2022, 10:20:42 AM
Does that mean Greg Elliott is done?  Is there a real chance Justin Lewis stays?

I present the scholarship table for all to see.  Only 1 available even with Elliott gone.  More if Lewis or anyone else goes.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 10:46:14 AM
We'll have 3-4 open spots, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 19, 2022, 10:56:28 AM
We'll have 3-4 open spots, hey?

Yeah my guess is that we we have 3.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 11:11:10 AM
I do think Kam and Stevie in particular have high ceilings.  Notice how Stevie is the only one on our roster who plays an attacking style defense.  It's very noticeable to me that most of our guys are reactive which drives me up the wall.  Stevie on the other hand gets into dudes grills, is not too straight up, and forces the action.  There's nothing more infuriating than allowing easy penetration into the paint and resembling smaller Moai on the floor.  We need far more physicality and tenacity on the defensive end.

Kam is quite capable of being an electric scorer.  He's already an elite spot shooter with effortless range.  Where he needs to improve is attacking off the dribble both as a scorer and facilitator.  I believe he can.  There is zero question in my mind that both guys can be excellent all around players.

All that said we really need a big.  One that can devour thr glass, step-out and guard, knock down the J, and put guys on their ass when needed.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 19, 2022, 11:11:29 AM
To your point, Muggsy, the hope is that some of that is already developing on the roster.

1)  Badass Big - Aimaq is the dream, but there will be others.

2) Burner lead guard - Hopefully Sean Jones or Ross.

3)  A Novakesque shooter - Hopefully Kam Jones, Joplin, and Prosper develop here. Kolek also has promise.

4)  A glue/jack of all trades guy - Stevie and O-Max

This roster is built for the long haul. You won't fix everything in the portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 11:14:06 AM
To your point, Muggsy, the hope is that some of that is already developing on the roster.

1)  Badass Big - Aimaq is the dream, but there will be others.

2) Burner lead guard - Hopefully Sean Jones or Ross.

3)  A Novakesque shooter - Hopefully Kam Jones, Joplin, and Prosper develop here. Kolek also has promise.

4)  A glue/jack of all trades guy - Stevie and O-Max

This roster is built for the long haul. You won't fix everything in the portal.

Alright.  Having watched the tournament it's pretty clear we need more physicality and athleticism as well as a knock down shooter.  I'm imagining a 6'5 Rowsey.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 19, 2022, 11:17:22 AM
Alright.  Having watched the tournament it's pretty clear we need more physicality and athleticism as well as a knick down shooter.  I'm imagining a 6'5 Rowsey.

For the most part, it has to be on the roster now. Like Sacar Anim, who shot over 39% as a junior and senior. There just aren't enough scholarships to go shopping for everything you want.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 11:20:27 AM
For the most part, it has to be on the roster now. Like Sacar Anim, who shot over 39% as a junior and senior. There just aren't enough scholarships to go shopping for everything you want.

I get that, I'm just thinking in the near future.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 19, 2022, 11:23:04 AM
Looking through the names in the portal, does anyone know the story on Xavier Foster? Looks like he had some personal trouble in the past but looks like a solid player we could use in the middle. I know nothing about him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 19, 2022, 11:29:31 AM
Gonna guess Foster is a nonstarter. Dismissed from Iowa State. He was cleared of the sexual assault allegations, but TJO made it pretty clear there was more to the story of his dismissal.

https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/6829047001
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on March 19, 2022, 11:37:45 AM
Alright.  Having watched the tournament it's pretty clear we need more physicality and athleticism as well as a knock down shooter.  I'm imagining a 6'5 Rowsey.

I think more physicality and athleticism is the main concern. Lewis, Kur, and Oso all play like golden retrievers and is the main reason we were dominated physically in so many games, especially as the season wore on. I’d be perfectly happy getting a seasoned bruiser or two that can help change that, even if they are undersized.

I think shooters are really fickle and you never really know what you will get with them. I’m expecting some players on the current team to have better shooting seasons. If I had to throw a name out there, I’d love to see us target Bradin Podziemski should he become available. Illinois was loaded and he barely got a chance this year. 6’5 local kid who averaged 35 a game in high school and was regarded as one of the best shooters in his class.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 11:53:44 AM
I think more physicality and athleticism is the main concern. Lewis, Kur, and Oso all play like golden retrievers and is the main reason we were dominated physically in so many games, especially as the season wore on. I’d be perfectly happy getting a seasoned bruiser or two that can help change that, even if they are undersized.

I think shooters are really fickle and you never really know what you will get with them. I’m expecting some players on the current team to have better shooting seasons. If I had to throw a name out there, I’d love to see us target Bradin Podziemski should he become available. Illinois was loaded and he barely got a chance this year. 6’5 local kid who averaged 35 a game in high school and was regarded as one of the best shooters in his class.

I was extremely disappointed with JLew's lack of assertiveness on Thursday.    Obviously 2-15 is dismal but it's the grand total of ZERO free throws that was beyond frustrating.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 19, 2022, 12:01:29 PM
Many schools have reached out to Fardwas Aimaq including Marquette, Gonzaga, and Kentucky.  Stiff competition.


https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1505007679990816769?t=Qm2J__n0QBYijEh3nTypMA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1505007679990816769?t=Qm2J__n0QBYijEh3nTypMA&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 19, 2022, 12:05:39 PM
I know this is a bit la-la-land and I'm asking for a lot but:

1)  Badass Big who can patrol the paint with authority, rebound, step-out and pop some J's, and can physically impose his will.

2) Burner/Jets/Wheels (a.k.a blow by speed) lead guard with prime time handles, crisp torpedo passing, stalwart snake head cutting defending, and the ability to drain the long ball.

3)  A Novakesque spot shooter anywhere from 6'3-6'7.

4)  A glue/jack of all trades guy.  We need that intangible player who makes winning plays on both ends of the floor.

1) Would go to NBA

2) Would go to NBA

3) Would go to NBA

4) We need one of these.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 12:07:27 PM
1) Would go to NBA

2) Would go to NBA

3) Would go to NBA

4) We need one of these.

Not true.  Lots of college teams have guys that fit my descriptions.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: nyg on March 19, 2022, 12:11:59 PM
Not true.  Lots of college teams have guys that fit my descriptions.

Don’t worry Muggs, in the next month there will be well over 300 new names entering the transfer portal.  Each name will be brought up, this thread will get to 30 pages and you might get to 10,000 posts. 😁
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2022, 12:18:29 PM
Don’t worry Muggs, in the next month there will be well over 300 new names entering the transfer portal.  Each name will be brought up, this thread will get to 30 pages and you might get to 10,000 posts. 😁

Sometimes it's important to reinforce my opinions in light of those who accept mediocrity and are indifferent to dominant success.  :)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 19, 2022, 12:39:42 PM
Many schools have reached out to Fardwas Aimaq including Marquette, Gonzaga, and Kentucky.  Stiff competition.


https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1505007679990816769?t=Qm2J__n0QBYijEh3nTypMA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1505007679990816769?t=Qm2J__n0QBYijEh3nTypMA&s=19)

Onto the next one.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 19, 2022, 01:26:34 PM
I wonder if Qudus Wahab could possibly be a target from Maryland? Played 2 years at Georgetown. 6'11"  240lbs
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on March 19, 2022, 01:32:29 PM
So like 3/5 new starters?


To your point, Muggsy, the hope is that some of that is already developing on the roster.

1)  Badass Big - Aimaq is the dream, but there will be others.

2) Burner lead guard - Hopefully Sean Jones or Ross.

3)  A Novakesque shooter - Hopefully Kam Jones, Joplin, and Prosper develop here. Kolek also has promise.

4)  A glue/jack of all trades guy - Stevie and O-Max

This roster is built for the long haul. You won't fix everything in the portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 19, 2022, 01:54:34 PM
So like 3/5 new starters?

Seeing how we will likely lose 3 starters no matter what. And our three best returning players are Kolek, Oso, and Omax in some order.

Yes we need to recruit 1-2 transfers to start and play.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 19, 2022, 01:56:39 PM
I’d be happy with 5 new starters (I’m just assuming Lewis will not be back…if he is, then 4).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 19, 2022, 02:00:11 PM
Yeah my guess is that we we have 3.

I agree with this analysis. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 19, 2022, 02:00:33 PM
So like 3/5 new starters?

3/5 new starters and a new sixth man. The whole point of bringing in Kolek and O-Max is so we don't have to reset that many positions.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on March 19, 2022, 03:31:16 PM
3/5 new starters and a new sixth man. The whole point of bringing in Kolek and O-Max is so we don't have to reset that many positions.
If Kolek can't relearn how to shoot, he won't be the starting PG very long.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 19, 2022, 03:45:37 PM
If Kolek can't relearn how to shoot, he won't be the starting PG very long.

That and learn some composure.  He's way too up and down on the court, both of which leads to bad decisions
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2022, 03:54:24 PM
For the most part, it has to be on the roster now. Like Sacar Anim, who shot over 39% as a junior and senior. There just aren't enough scholarships to go shopping for everything you want.

A 6'5" Rowsey probably skips College for the G League
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 19, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
I mean the last month of the year Kolek was basically our second best shooter. Says more about everyone else.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on March 21, 2022, 01:39:05 PM
Nelly Cummings from Colgate just entered the portal. He didn’t waste much time. He had a real nice game against Bucky.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 21, 2022, 02:04:24 PM
All I want is a guy who can rebound the basketball.  Can't be too much to ask for, right!?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: nyg on March 21, 2022, 03:02:36 PM
James Graham, PF from Nicolet HS, a four star recruit and who had MU in his final five entered portal in December.  Never played a game for Maryland. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 03:06:55 PM
James Graham, PF from Nicolet HS, a four star recruit and who had MU in his final five entered portal in December.  Never played a game for Maryland.

6'8" 215 pound wing.  Not a banger, unless he can put on some weight.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 21, 2022, 03:24:38 PM
James Graham, PF from Nicolet HS, a four star recruit and who had MU in his final five entered portal in December.  Never played a game for Maryland.

He's a guy that the lack of scouting/live game action due to covid influenced his ranking.

Definitely not a high major player out of HS, but has the measurables to eventually become one. He'll drop down a level or two.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 21, 2022, 03:32:43 PM
Graham was a COVID darling. His stock blew up because he did a really good job marketing himself when coaches couldn't see anyone in person. I don't think it's a coincidence that he wasn't a hot commodity despite being on a high profile team until in-person stuff was off-limits and he didn't last at a high-major program. Seems like the kind of player that will end up settling in at a lower level. If he wants to come home, probably better off playing across the street, based on his resume so far.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on March 21, 2022, 03:46:38 PM
Ricky Lindo 6'8 G/F from GW entered the portal. It was mentioned somewhere else, but GW's recently fired coach was an assistant for Shaka and Lindo started at Maryland. Solid rebounder and shot 38% from 3 on 61 attempts.  I don't know anything about him, but might be worth a look.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 21, 2022, 03:51:19 PM
With everything going on at LSU, if Brandon Murray hits the portal, he'd be a name I'd monitor.

Former High School teammate of Justin Lewis with the Baltimore connection.

6'5" 215 lb. guard that really took off at LSU midway through this season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: withoutbias on March 21, 2022, 03:56:50 PM
With everything going on at LSU, if Brandon Murray hits the portal, he'd be a name I'd monitor.

Former High School teammate of Justin Lewis with the Baltimore connection.

6'5" 215 lb. guard that really took off at LSU midway through this season.

1) Justin will be gone so that doesn't help much.

2) Will he be willing to take such a large pay cut?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 21, 2022, 08:16:02 PM
Wisconsin F Matthew Mors has entered the portal.  An interesting development after Mors redshirted this past year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2022, 08:34:27 PM
Wisconsin F Matthew Mors has entered the portal.  An interesting development after Mors redshirted this past year.

Greg Gard publicist Jeff Potrykus has already reported the kid is homesick and by no means should anyone question the leadership and direction of Coach Gard.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on March 21, 2022, 09:36:06 PM
If Aimaq wants 25 million in NIL. Make it happen.

Thats the guy we need.
Sorry, but 4ever only goes $25/yr and one dental job/yr
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 21, 2022, 09:38:56 PM
Greg Gard publicist Jeff Potrykus has already reported the kid is homesick and by no means should anyone question the leadership and direction of Coach Gard.

Reminds me of when Ian Markolf lost his love of the game...only to later transfer to a low level D1 school.

Now Mors is "homesick."  Sure, Jan.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2022, 09:07:49 AM
@jakeweingarten
NC State transfer Cam Hayes has heard from Arizona State, Cincinnati, Tennessee, SMU, Loyola Chicago, Minnesota, Wichita State, Marquette, Creighton, Georgia, Texas Tech, BYU, USF, to name a few, sources told @stockrisers.

6'3" point guard, former top 75 recruit. Averaged 7.0/2.3/2.1. 25% 3-point shooter, eFG 38.7%.

Why?

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 22, 2022, 09:13:52 AM
@jakeweingarten
NC State transfer Cam Hayes has heard from Arizona State, Cincinnati, Tennessee, SMU, Loyola Chicago, Minnesota, Wichita State, Marquette, Creighton, Georgia, Texas Tech, BYU, USF, to name a few, sources told @stockrisers.

6'3" point guard, former top 75 recruit. Averaged 7.0/2.3/2.1. 25% 3-point shooter, eFG 38.7%.

Why?

Never stop recruiting.  Shot it much better as a freshman.  Some solid programs reaching out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2022, 09:16:45 AM
Never stop recruiting.  Shot it much better as a freshman.  Some solid programs reaching out.

We need four point guards?
Unless either Kolek or Stevie is leaving, this doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 22, 2022, 09:21:12 AM
We need four point guards?
Unless either Kolek or Stevie is leaving, this doesn't make sense.

Shaka literally plays three point guards all the time. He did it at texas. He did it at VCU. He will do it here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2022, 09:29:01 AM
Shaka literally plays three point guards all the time. He did it at texas. He did it at VCU. He will do it here.

The minutes breakdown at MU this year and Texas literally says otherwise.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 22, 2022, 09:34:51 AM
I have been toying with the idea that Shaka doesn't really see Tyler as a PG.  Remember that DJ Carton unexpectedly left two weeks after Kolek committed leaving TK as the best option available.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 22, 2022, 09:35:26 AM
@jakeweingarten
NC State transfer Cam Hayes has heard from Arizona State, Cincinnati, Tennessee, SMU, Loyola Chicago, Minnesota, Wichita State, Marquette, Creighton, Georgia, Texas Tech, BYU, USF, to name a few, sources told @stockrisers.

6'3" point guard, former top 75 recruit. Averaged 7.0/2.3/2.1. 25% 3-point shooter, eFG 38.7%.

Why?

Not every player contacted will be a priority.  The coaching staff might just be covering their bases.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 22, 2022, 09:36:12 AM
The minutes breakdown at MU this year and Texas literally says otherwise.

I dont remember Shaka playing 3 PGs, but this system definitely is more effective with 2.  Shakas best seasons at Texas were with Coleman and Ramey on the court together.

We saw it this year, Kolek was our only ballhandler and once teams realized that both him and the offense as a whole were much less effective in generating easy looks.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 22, 2022, 09:38:36 AM
I have been toying with the idea that Shaka doesn't really see Tyler as a PG.  Remember that DJ Carton unexpectedly left two weeks after Kolek committed leaving TK as the best option available.

I think Kolek would benefit from playing with another PG.  Having two guards that can initiate the offense and distribute would  make the offense harder to defend. Plus, Kolek might also benefit from more catch and shoot opportunities, since shooting off the dribble is a weakness at this point.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 22, 2022, 09:46:19 AM
I think Kolek would benefit from playing with another PG.  Having two guards that can initiate the offense and distribute would  make the offense harder to defend. Plus, Kolek might also benefit from more catch and shoot opportunities, since shooting off the dribble is a weakness at this point.


And I think they tried that at times this year when DM would initiate the offense....and it didn't work great.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2022, 09:46:42 AM
I dont remember Shaka playing 3 PGs, but this system definitely is more effective with 2.  Shakas best seasons at Texas were with Coleman and Ramey on the court together.

Right. He definitely used those two a lot. After that, the next point guard on the roster appeared in only 15 games, averaging 10 minutes per.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: withoutbias on March 22, 2022, 09:52:43 AM
Kolek shouldn't be on the court if he's not our point guard/handling the ball a large majority of the time.  The problem is he has to cut down the turnovers by a lot, and teams figured out how to defend him mid conference season on (keep him along the sideline when he goes to run the high pick and roll, don't hedge on him with your big, and don't collapse your defense on the drive).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 22, 2022, 09:55:08 AM

And I think they tried that at times this year when DM would initiate the offense....and it didn't work great.

Well, perhaps one reason it didn’t work great was that DM isn’t close to being a PG. Loose handle, not a very good passer.

Lots of coaches like to use 2 PGs together. Very common in the NBA. Getting more common in college.

One thing about doing it here is that either Kolek would have to improve as a shooter or the other PG would have to be able to shoot/score. Because we couldn’t afford to have 2 non-scoring perimeter players on the court.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 22, 2022, 10:00:24 AM
The minutes breakdown at MU this year and Texas literally says otherwise.

21- Ramey, Coleman, Jones
20- finished the year - Ramey, Coleman, Jones
19-  he liked Febres but he did play- Ramey, Coleman, and Roach together
18- He would have done it more in 2018 but Jones got leukemia

If you want to say that Jones wasn't a Pg at the end thats fine but he was recruited as one at first.

We will just always be guard heavy under this staff.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 22, 2022, 10:13:22 AM
21- Ramey, Coleman, Jones
20- finished the year - Ramey, Coleman, Jones
19-  he liked Febres but he did play- Ramey, Coleman, and Roach together
18- He would have done it more in 2018 but Jones got leukemia

If you want to say that Jones wasn't a Pg at the end thats fine but he was recruited as one at first.

We will just always be guard heavy under this staff.

I think this is mostly definitional. Febres wasn't played like a PG, nor was Jones after his freshman year. I do think we will see a lot of 2 and 3 guard sets and I think they prefer to have multiple ball-handlers capable of initiating the offense, but I expect it will be a situation where you have say Kolek and Sean Jones playing together most of the time and a third guard like Morsell or Kam who is capable of handling it a bit but isn't really a point guard.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2022, 10:18:43 AM
21- Ramey, Coleman, Jones
20- finished the year - Ramey, Coleman, Jones
19-  he liked Febres but he did play- Ramey, Coleman, and Roach together
18- He would have done it more in 2018 but Jones got leukemia

If you want to say that Jones wasn't a Pg at the end thats fine but he was recruited as one at first.

We will just always be guard heavy under this staff.

Guard heavy is not the same as "three point guards literally all the time."
Most college basketball teams are guard heavy.

And no, Andrew Jones is not a point guard, and neither was Kerwin Roach.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 22, 2022, 10:31:09 AM
Is Cam Hayes a point guard or a combo guard?  Same with Stevie?  Kolek?

These things tend to work themselves out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 22, 2022, 10:36:35 AM
Is Cam Hayes a point guard or a combo guard?  Same with Stevie?  Kolek?

These things tend to work themselves out.

His scouting report had him as a pass-first point guard who is facilitator first. He was a good pick and roll creator, but I'm not sure a second pass-first guy with questionable shooting is what we need.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 22, 2022, 10:56:43 AM
I expect we see a lot of 2 PG lineups with the 3rd guard being a wing guard type once Shaka has this roster fully where he wants it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 22, 2022, 10:57:18 AM
I think Kolek would benefit from playing with another PG.  Having two guards that can initiate the offense and distribute would  make the offense harder to defend. Plus, Kolek might also benefit from more catch and shoot opportunities, since shooting off the dribble is a weakness at this point.

I agree.

Kolek isnt a complete nightmare shooting the ball when he can catch and shoot. Having another true ball handler will allow him to actually get those looks consistently.

And as you said it would just naturally make him harder to defend as a passer if a D knows he can give it up to another true ball handler at anytime.

We simply didnt have that this year.

Hoping a combo of S. Jones and a more experienced Stevie would give us that next year. Will definitely need Stevie and TK to become good catch and shoot guys at least though. Cant have 2 dudes who cant shoot a lick.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 22, 2022, 11:52:11 AM

Kolek isnt a complete nightmare shooting the ball when he can catch and shoot. Having another true ball handler will allow him to actually get those looks consistently.



I disagree. Show me a line drive 3 point shooter who is a great shooter. Look at the arc from Jones, Joplin, Lewis, Elliot and then look at the line drives from Kolek. The shoot needs to be re-worked.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 22, 2022, 11:55:25 AM
I disagree. Show me a line drive 3 point shooter who is a great shooter. Look at the arc from Jones, Joplin, Lewis, Elliot and then look at the line drives from Kolek. The shoot needs to be re-worked.

Agree. More arc, and his guide hand needs to be repositioned. His ball comes off with funky rotation.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 22, 2022, 12:14:17 PM
Grant Basile 6'9" Forward from Wright State.

Averaged 18 and 8.  From Pewaukee, WI.

Shot nearly 48% from 3 last season. Around 31% from 3 for his career.

Played about 33 minutes a game this season and grabbed those 8.5 rebounds per game. Might be a real option for Marquette with the hometown appeal.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 22, 2022, 12:43:51 PM
https://twitter.com/5warrenw/status/1506314712467746822?s=21

This guy is an absolute baller. Tenacious rebounder and comfortable scorer. He’ll have no troubles making the jump up in competition. Hope we take a look
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 22, 2022, 12:48:33 PM
https://twitter.com/5warrenw/status/1506314712467746822?s=21

This guy is an absolute baller. Tenacious rebounder and comfortable scorer. He’ll have no troubles making the jump up in competition. Hope we take a look
Would be fantastic to sign Warren Washington . 7 footer is just what we need
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TheREALwrk on March 22, 2022, 12:54:00 PM
Yohan Traore (5-star Center, former LSU commit) decommitted today. Looks like Shaka was on him while at TX.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on March 22, 2022, 12:56:14 PM
Grant Basile 6'9" Forward from Wright State.

Averaged 18 and 8.  From Pewaukee, WI.

Shot nearly 48% from 3 last season. Around 31% from 3 for his career.

Played about 33 minutes a game this season and grabbed those 8.5 rebounds per game. Might be a real option for Marquette with the hometown appeal.
His 3 point % was 28%  this past season, not 48%.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on March 22, 2022, 12:56:52 PM
https://twitter.com/5warrenw/status/1506314712467746822?s=21

This guy is an absolute baller. Tenacious rebounder and comfortable scorer. He’ll have no troubles making the jump up in competition. Hope we take a look

Looks like he would have 2 seasons of eligibility.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 22, 2022, 12:58:33 PM
His 3 point % was 28%  this past season, not 48%.

I don’t think he’s capable of replicating his scoring numbers moving up a level or two. I see him more in a kellan Grady role with UK. Sharpshooter
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 22, 2022, 01:08:04 PM
Agree. More arc, and his guide hand needs to be repositioned. His ball comes off with funky rotation.
100%. Side-winder rotation equals inconsistent shooting.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 22, 2022, 01:11:45 PM
Guard heavy is not the same as "three point guards literally all the time."
Most college basketball teams are guard heavy.

And no, Andrew Jones is not a point guard, and neither was Kerwin Roach.

This is a philosophical (as related to basketball) question. Because technically its not feasible to have 3 point guards. You can judge whether they play the PG position by many things. You judge a team by "who brings it up", by "assist rate", by a "creator or receiver" role, by the height of the players on the court, by the position they were recruited to play.

With some of these characterizations, it is not possible to have 3 PGs. Looking "assist rate" and "creator or receiver" roles it is functionally impossible to have 3 PGs at 25-30% assist rate guards will not longer have those rates playing together. Same with the usage rate role designations.

I don't think its wrong to call Andrew Jones a point guard. He was recruited as one. He clearly started in that role. And then adjusted post injury. Roach is more arguable, played PG in HS. Moved to a 2 guard right away. But then the next three years he was their initiator. Had assist rates around 24%.

So i guess i will ask this question, Marquette plays Kolek, Sean Jones, and Mitchell together next year in a game is one of them no longer a point guard?

If you say, yes. I get it. I don't think you would be wrong. I just don't think someone calling them all three of them point guards would be wrong either.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 22, 2022, 01:12:07 PM
His 3 point % was 28%  this past season, not 48%.

I said last season, not this season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 22, 2022, 01:15:25 PM
I don’t think he’s capable of replicating his scoring numbers moving up a level or two. I see him more in a kellan Grady role with UK. Sharpshooter

He just posted 21 points and 5 rebounds against Arizona in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament.

Arizona has some of the best bigs in America.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 22, 2022, 01:37:34 PM
He just posted 21 points and 5 rebounds against Arizona in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament.

Arizona has some of the best bigs in America.

8-20 from the field in a pace up game isn’t spectacular. Purdue’s vaunted defense stymied him earlier this year and he struggled against Akron as well as some of the better teams in the Horizon.

Once again, he can find a niche as a shooter on a bigger stage, but he won’t replicate his scoring numbers he put up in the horizon.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on March 22, 2022, 01:51:37 PM
I said last season, not this season.
Yah, but 42 is kinda small sample size
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 22, 2022, 02:04:10 PM
Yah, but 42 is kinda small sample size

That's why I also included that he is 31% for his career.

He wouldn't need to shoot 130 3's at Marquette.  He'd be down low with 50-75 3's attempted being realistic.

He's just a much more realistic option than Fardaws, given the fact that Basile is a local kid and Fardaws has the whole country reaching out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on March 22, 2022, 02:17:24 PM
That's why I also included that he is 31% for his career.

He wouldn't need to shoot 130 3's at Marquette.  He'd be down low with 50-75 3's attempted being realistic.

He's just a much more realistic option than Fardaws, given the fact that Basile is a local kid and Fardaws has the whole country reaching out.
But, would he be happy with fewer trey attempts?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 22, 2022, 02:23:17 PM
Basile would be a backup 4/5 at this level.  Dont think he's the impact 5 we need.  Maybe if Lewis leaves you bring him in to offset that loss a bit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 22, 2022, 02:24:22 PM
But, would he be happy with fewer trey attempts?

That's just a guess.

If he shot 48% on 42 attempts and 29% on 138 attempts then one can assume he's highly capable in a low sample hitting the open shots.

If he did join a team like Marquette and was consistently hitting 3s, he wouldn't be capped at any certain number.  That was moreso just an estimation.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 22, 2022, 02:58:53 PM
That's just a guess.

If he shot 48% on 42 attempts and 29% on 138 attempts then one can assume he's highly capable in a low sample hitting the open shots.

If he did join a team like Marquette and was consistently hitting 3s, he wouldn't be capped at any certain number.  That was moreso just an estimation.
Saw Grant play in HS as my Son played against him in the State HS Tournament. Do not believe have seen Grant play since. Believe Grant’s Dad was Grant’s Head Coach in HS. Agree maybe not a spectacular addition but Grant would definitely be a solid addition.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 22, 2022, 04:15:22 PM
Saw Grant play in HS as my Son played against him in the State HS Tournament. Do not believe have seen Grant play since. Believe Grant’s Dad was Grant’s Head Coach in HS. Agree maybe not a spectacular addition but Grant would definitely be a solid addition.

Would we have any interest in him whatsoever without the local connection?  We had last year's Horizon League player of the year on our roster two years ago and he was but a role player.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 22, 2022, 04:24:41 PM
Would we have any interest in him whatsoever without the local connection?  We had last year's Horizon League player of the year on our roster two years ago and he was but a role player.

Yes.

He's much different than he was in high school.  Plays out of the post. He backed down Koloko on the 1st bucket of the game for Wright State in the NCAA Tournament.  Has the ability to stretch but most importantly he rebounds.

The local connection is just convenient. I'm sure Fardaws Aimaq is the ideal target, but Grant is probably more realistic.

I fully expect Madison to be a major player for his services in his final season as well.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2022, 09:16:04 AM
Yohan Traore (5-star Center, former LSU commit) decommitted today. Looks like Shaka was on him while at TX.

MU not in his top four.

https://www.on3.com/news/report-5-star-yohan-traore-former-lsu-commit-down-to-4-schools/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2022, 09:44:59 AM
MU not in his top four.

https://www.on3.com/news/report-5-star-yohan-traore-former-lsu-commit-down-to-4-schools/

Green weiner
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on March 23, 2022, 10:25:24 AM
https://pittsburgh.rivals.com/news/pitt-loses-horton-to-the-transfer-portal

Ithiel Horton transferring from Pitt.  6'5" guard who shoots pretty well from deep.

He had previously transferred to Pitt from Delaware (sat a year), and MU was on him back then in the Wojo-times. 

He did have a brush with the law this season, but that is basically a prerequisite with Pitt nowadays.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 23, 2022, 10:34:59 AM
https://pittsburgh.rivals.com/news/pitt-loses-horton-to-the-transfer-portal

Ithiel Horton transferring from Pitt.  6'5" guard who shoots pretty well from deep.

He had previously transferred to Pitt from Delaware (sat a year), and MU was on him back then in the Wojo-times. 

He did have a brush with the law this season, but that is basically a prerequisite with Pitt nowadays.

Punching a cop (allegedly) is a brush with the law ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on March 23, 2022, 10:45:35 AM
Punching a cop (allegedly) is a brush with the law ?

It's the most literal brush with the law possible.  There were several variations to the story, though, and the charges were dropped, so who knows?

I doubt Shaka would go after him for that very reason, but just thought I'd add him to the list, as ACC starting guards aren't often available.  He's originally from NJ, so maybe a pick-up for Holloway at SH?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 23, 2022, 11:42:25 AM
Keep an eye on St. Joe's transfer Taylor Funk.  6-8 F 215, 13.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, supposedly a strong defender.  One year of eligibility.

Travis Branham posted on Dodd's premium board "Marquette contacts St. Joe's transfer."  Not a subscriber, so I could only read the topic.  But after some internet sleuthing, I'm pretty confident that post is about Funk.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 23, 2022, 11:58:12 AM
Keep an eye on St. Joe's transfer Taylor Funk.  6-8 F 215, 13.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, supposedly a strong defender.  One year of eligibility.

Travis Branham posted on Dodd's premium board "Marquette contacts St. Joe's transfer."  Not a subscriber, so I could only read the topic.  But after some internet sleuthing, I'm pretty confident that post is about Funk.

Yeah thats pretty much all it says.  We're in contact.  Feels like a one year stopgap for if Justin does leave.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 23, 2022, 12:06:11 PM
Keep an eye on St. Joe's transfer Taylor Funk.  6-8 F 215, 13.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, supposedly a strong defender.  One year of eligibility.

Travis Branham posted on Dodd's premium board "Marquette contacts St. Joe's transfer."  Not a subscriber, so I could only read the topic.  But after some internet sleuthing, I'm pretty confident that post is about Funk.

Didn't he look into transferring last year or the year before too?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 23, 2022, 12:11:14 PM
Keep an eye on St. Joe's transfer Taylor Funk.  6-8 F 215, 13.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, supposedly a strong defender.  One year of eligibility.

Travis Branham posted on Dodd's premium board "Marquette contacts St. Joe's transfer."  Not a subscriber, so I could only read the topic.  But after some internet sleuthing, I'm pretty confident that post is about Funk.

Pass! Why would we want a guy named Funk after what has become an annual late season tradition of sliding?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 23, 2022, 12:15:46 PM
Pass! Why would we want a guy named Funk after what has become an annual late season tradition of sliding?

Maybe bringing the Funk would help us to do more of a shimmy than a slide?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 23, 2022, 12:21:49 PM
Pass! Why would we want a guy named Funk after what has become an annual late season tradition of sliding?

Can't have a late season funk if you have a Funk all season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on March 23, 2022, 12:29:26 PM
Maybe bringing the Funk would help us to do more of a shimmy than a slide?

I think it would be worth the tampering charges to bring in this guy as a package deal.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4710359/aiden-noyes
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 23, 2022, 12:40:26 PM
I think it would be worth the tampering charges to bring in this guy as a package deal.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4710359/aiden-noyes

Double the funk?  Get Andrew Funk from Bucknell too.  Add Jalen Moore from Oakland and we can get passes around the perimeter Funk - Moore - Funk - Noyes.

Not sure that's a winning recruiting strategy though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 23, 2022, 12:45:44 PM
Keep an eye on St. Joe's transfer Taylor Funk.  6-8 F 215, 13.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, supposedly a strong defender.  One year of eligibility.

Travis Branham posted on Dodd's premium board "Marquette contacts St. Joe's transfer."  Not a subscriber, so I could only read the topic.  But after some internet sleuthing, I'm pretty confident that post is about Funk.

Branham just tweeted publicly that Marquette is in contact with Taylor Funk.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 23, 2022, 01:03:34 PM
Branham just tweeted publicly that Marquette is in contact with Taylor Funk.

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jables1604 on March 23, 2022, 01:09:17 PM
Double the funk?  Get Andrew Funk from Bucknell too.  Add Jalen Moore from Oakland and we can get passes around the perimeter Funk - Moore - Funk - Noyes.

Not sure that's a winning recruiting strategy though.
This is the kind of hard-hitting analysis that keeps me logging in several times a day.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2022, 01:15:16 PM
Maybe bringing the Funk would help us to do more of a shimmy than a slide?

Do we want the Funk?
Do we gotta have that Funk?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 23, 2022, 02:25:46 PM
Branham just tweeted publicly that Marquette is in contact with Taylor Funk.

Fits a lot of needs: rebounding, three point shooting, and defense.

Hopefully we can start referring to 3 point shooting as "from Funkytown" rather than "from downtown"
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 23, 2022, 02:27:55 PM
I just want Shaka to bring the Funk.  And then bring the Noyes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 23, 2022, 02:41:31 PM
I just want Shaka to bring the Funk.  And then bring the Noyes.

Any chance he can raid Illinois and bring the (Omar) Payne?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 23, 2022, 02:43:17 PM
I just want Shaka to bring the Funk.  And then bring the Noyes.

When Joey returns, we'll have Funkhauser.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on March 23, 2022, 03:11:59 PM
Do we want the Funk?
Do we gotta have that Funk?
So now is our recruiting Funked up? Will our chemistry be Funked if we sign him. So many low hanging fruit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2022, 04:21:14 PM
Nevada’s Desmond Cambridge has entered the transfer portal as a graduate transfer, he tells On3. The 6-foot-4 shooting guard will look for a new home after spending the last two seasons with head coach Steve Alford in Reno.
This past season, Cambridge was the Wolfpack’s second-leading scorer. He averaged 16.2 points a game, on 43.5% from the field and 37% from three. Cambridge also grabbed 5.1 rebounds and dished out 1.8 assists per outing.
The Nashville native has one year of eligibility remaining.

https://www.on3.com/news/nevada-shooting-guard-desmond-cambridge-enters-transfer-portal/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PJDunn on March 23, 2022, 04:37:57 PM
Looks like a poor man's Koby McEwen. I would pass.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 23, 2022, 05:35:10 PM
Looks like a poor man's Koby McEwen. I would pass.

We are not in a position to turn up our noses at players like Cambridge. He would be a good addition to our, and almost any high major team next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 24, 2022, 10:01:17 AM
When Joey returns, we'll have Funkhauser.

Winner!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2022, 10:02:58 AM
And 1/2 off vanilla cones at Kopps, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: genious expert on March 24, 2022, 11:06:25 AM
"Of our initial top 10 ranked transfers, the two who seem to be generating the most chatter are likely guard Joe Bamisile of George Washington and forward Jaylan Gainey of Brown.

The Ivy League’s Defensive Player of the Year, Gainey is an athletic lob finisher who plays with a lot of energy. He has had no shortage of big-time programs reaching out since he went into the portal but based off of the early chatter we have heard so far it sounds as if Florida State and Marquette may be a little bit ahead of the pack."

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-transfer-portal-news-and-notes-Trevon-Brazile-Khristian-Lander-185073144/#185073144_5
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 24, 2022, 11:21:45 AM
With everything going on at LSU, if Brandon Murray hits the portal, he'd be a name I'd monitor.

Former High School teammate of Justin Lewis with the Baltimore connection.

6'5" 215 lb. guard that really took off at LSU midway through this season.

https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1507026940078829575?t=WV5rCU8f821lMpywf9_G-g&s=19

Officially in the portal. Watch this one closely.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 24, 2022, 11:24:04 AM
Would be very pleased with Gainey and Murray as our transfer additions.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 24, 2022, 11:35:30 AM
"Of our initial top 10 ranked transfers, the two who seem to be generating the most chatter are likely guard Joe Bamisile of George Washington and forward Jaylan Gainey of Brown.

Bamisile will have to sit out next year (already took his free transfer from V Tech -> GW)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 24, 2022, 11:35:53 AM
Murray is likely going to Georgetown
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 24, 2022, 11:45:33 AM
Murray is likely going to Georgetown

It's a possibility, but it says entering the transfer portal, not transferring to Gerogetown.

Even if that was his preferred destination seeing 0-19 next to the team you are planning to go to could give you second thoughts. No evidence that is his preferred destination, just close to home.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 24, 2022, 11:54:57 AM
No evidence that is his preferred destination, just close to home.

Georgetown just hired Nickelberry from LSU, who was the lead recruiter for Murray.

https://twitter.com/BillyEmbody/status/1507032056697602050

https://www.casualhoya.com/2022/3/24/22994370/assistant-coach-georgetown-hoyas-adding-kevin-nickelberry-from-lsu-howard-patrick-ewing
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 24, 2022, 12:07:50 PM
Georgetown just hired Nickelberry from LSU, who was the lead recruiter for Murray.

https://twitter.com/BillyEmbody/status/1507032056697602050

https://www.casualhoya.com/2022/3/24/22994370/assistant-coach-georgetown-hoyas-adding-kevin-nickelberry-from-lsu-howard-patrick-ewing

Anyone entertaining the idea of Georgetown will still will have to agree to be a part of a rebuild.

0-19 doesn't fix itself overnight.  Especially when the head coach is given reassurance from the university after going 0-19.

I'm just pointing out a small connection that Marquette has with Murray should Justin decide to stay.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 24, 2022, 12:12:17 PM
Anyone entertaining the idea of Georgetown will still will have to agree to be a part of a rebuild.

0-19 doesn't fix itself overnight.  Especially when the head coach is given reassurance from the university after going 0-19.

I'm just pointing out a small connection that Marquette has with Murray should Justin decide to stay.

Marquette has a small connection to a player, should something that's very unlikely to happen happens.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bradforster on March 24, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Marquette has a small connection to a player, should something that's very unlikely to happen happens.

Did you see Iowa State's record last year?  Yes, you can turn things around quickly.  We are witnessing it in Ames, Iowa right now.  It absolutely can be done.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bradforster on March 24, 2022, 12:22:24 PM
Anyone entertaining the idea of Georgetown will still will have to agree to be a part of a rebuild.

0-19 doesn't fix itself overnight.  Especially when the head coach is given reassurance from the university after going 0-19.

I'm just pointing out a small connection that Marquette has with Murray should Justin decide to stay.

Did you see Iowa State's record last year?  Yes, you can turn things around quickly.  We are witnessing it in Ames, Iowa right now.  It absolutely can be done.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 24, 2022, 12:23:24 PM
"Of our initial top 10 ranked transfers, the two who seem to be generating the most chatter are likely guard Joe Bamisile of George Washington and forward Jaylan Gainey of Brown.

The Ivy League’s Defensive Player of the Year, Gainey is an athletic lob finisher who plays with a lot of energy. He has had no shortage of big-time programs reaching out since he went into the portal but based off of the early chatter we have heard so far it sounds as if Florida State and Marquette may be a little bit ahead of the pack."

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-transfer-portal-news-and-notes-Trevon-Brazile-Khristian-Lander-185073144/#185073144_5

Great news in my book
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 24, 2022, 12:36:13 PM
Did you see Iowa State's record last year?  Yes, you can turn things around quickly.  We are witnessing it in Ames, Iowa right now.  It absolutely can be done.

Fair point, but I dont think it's close to the same.

The difference is Iowa State got a new coach.  Otzelberger is good.

Ewing is 68-84 all time as a head coach and just got a vote of confidence from the University.  They are stuck.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on March 24, 2022, 12:36:46 PM
Did you see Iowa State's record last year?  Yes, you can turn things around quickly.  We are witnessing it in Ames, Iowa right now.  It absolutely can be done.

Sure, but has anything Ewing done the last few years make you think it’s possible. I’m assuming they have another year of losing a bunch of people to the portal since that seems to be a trend.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bradforster on March 24, 2022, 12:56:43 PM
Sure, but has anything Ewing done the last few years make you think it’s possible. I’m assuming they have another year of losing a bunch of people to the portal since that seems to be a trend.

The school is not moving on from Ewing so we'll see how it plays out.  They never should have given him a contract extension based on four good days of basketball last year at MSG.  Here's something to bolster your point:

https://medium.com/@tamers.blurbs-0u/opinion-from-a-former-player-georgetown-mens-basketball-program-reaches-epic-corruption-levels-b053ef58ab5d
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PBRme on March 24, 2022, 02:05:42 PM
Khristian Lander (I4) entering pool former 5 star guard
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 24, 2022, 02:37:37 PM
The school is not moving on from Ewing so we'll see how it plays out.  They never should have given him a contract extension based on four good days of basketball last year at MSG.  Here's something to bolster your point:

https://medium.com/@tamers.blurbs-0u/opinion-from-a-former-player-georgetown-mens-basketball-program-reaches-epic-corruption-levels-b053ef58ab5d

Damn.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 24, 2022, 02:52:32 PM
@MatthewBain_
Just heard from Northern Iowa forward transfer Noah Carter (@noah3carter). Since entering the transfer portal yesterday, he has heard from:

Ole Miss
Arkansas
Virginia Tech
BYU
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Florida
Missouri
Marquette

Averaged 15 points and 4.1 rebounds per game this year.
6'8" sophomore forward.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 24, 2022, 02:56:19 PM
The school is not moving on from Ewing so we'll see how it plays out.  They never should have given him a contract extension based on four good days of basketball last year at MSG.  Here's something to bolster your point:

https://medium.com/@tamers.blurbs-0u/opinion-from-a-former-player-georgetown-mens-basketball-program-reaches-epic-corruption-levels-b053ef58ab5d



Cmon.  There is a ton of bullsh*t in that article.  John Thompson III was ten times the coach that Craig Esherick was.  Esherick's last year he finished 13-15, 4-12 in the BE.  Thompson had them in a Final Four three years after he got there. Esherick never had another coaching job after.

Should Georgetown move on from Ewing and the Thompsons?  No doubt.  But creating false narratives isn't helpful.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 24, 2022, 03:01:24 PM
Looking at Carter's bio shows to me just how much recruiting has changed and how I believe we should recruit kids with potential and build a team with guys with 2-3 years via the transfer portal. Carter obviously showed he was better than HS credentials and he will be stepping up to higher level next year. If I were a coach, 2-3 year guys would be very high on my list in building a team.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 24, 2022, 03:09:36 PM
Looking at Carter's bio shows to me just how much recruiting has changed and how I believe we should recruit kids with potential and build a team with guys with 2-3 years via the transfer portal. Carter obviously showed he was better than HS credentials and he will be stepping up to higher level next year. If I were a coach, 2-3 year guys would be very high on my list in building a team.

This is absolutely the route Shaka and it appears like 90% of high major teams are taking
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bradforster on March 24, 2022, 03:46:39 PM

Cmon.  There is a ton of bullsh*t in that article.  John Thompson III was ten times the coach that Craig Esherick was.  Esherick's last year he finished 13-15, 4-12 in the BE.  Thompson had them in a Final Four three years after he got there. Esherick never had another coaching job after.

Should Georgetown move on from Ewing and the Thompsons?  No doubt.  But creating false narratives isn't helpful.

Just a reminder - I didn’t write the article.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: shoothoops on March 24, 2022, 04:54:27 PM
Nevada’s Desmond Cambridge has entered the transfer portal as a graduate transfer, he tells On3. The 6-foot-4 shooting guard will look for a new home after spending the last two seasons with head coach Steve Alford in Reno.
This past season, Cambridge was the Wolfpack’s second-leading scorer. He averaged 16.2 points a game, on 43.5% from the field and 37% from three. Cambridge also grabbed 5.1 rebounds and dished out 1.8 assists per outing.
The Nashville native has one year of eligibility remaining.

https://www.on3.com/news/nevada-shooting-guard-desmond-cambridge-enters-transfer-portal/

His brother plays at Auburn. (He is also in the portal). Their sister plays at Vandy Women’s Hoops. The two brothers have talked about playing together in the past. Vandy was a past finalist. It’s possibility there.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 24, 2022, 05:08:52 PM
The Hound

Agreed that is the route a lot of coaches are taking, and I think it is the right one. My point was that more my concern over an incoming freshman's recruiting ranking means less to me than two years ago. If you can be successful in getting long term transfers you can roll the dice on recruiting HS guys a bit more than before. Not going to lie, I'm banking on Shaka being a long term winner in the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 24, 2022, 05:30:08 PM
His brother plays at Auburn. (He is also in the portal). Their sister plays at Vandy Women’s Hoops. The two brothers have talked about playing together in the past. Vandy was a past finalist. It’s possibility there.

Recruiting a pair of brothers to Marquette? What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: shoothoops on March 24, 2022, 05:48:41 PM
Recruiting a pair of brothers to Marquette? What could possibly go wrong?

Yep. Lol.

There’s a chance though. One thing with Vandy is making the numbers work. They have a highly ranked recruiting class with 4 incoming recruits. I know of 3 players not coming back for them not counting Pippen. (unsure) So it’s a little complex for them even before this.

I do know the sister really likes Vandy a lot. She isn’t going anywhere.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 24, 2022, 07:50:13 PM
Recruiting a pair of brothers to Marquette? What could possibly go wrong?
then recruit the sister too. No isn’t acceptable. Family affair. Let’s go!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 25, 2022, 09:56:15 AM
Recruiting a pair of brothers to Marquette? What could possibly go wrong?

With these guys we wouldn't have to worry about them writing a letter.  Well, at least the Auburn brother.  Ever since Brent Fullwood, Auburn athletics is known for not requiring literacy.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 25, 2022, 10:05:27 AM
With these guys we wouldn't have to worry about them writing a letter.  Well, at least the Auburn brother.  Ever since Brent Fullwood, Auburn athletics is known for not requiring literacy.


Nice 40 year old reference there.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2022, 01:25:41 PM
Texas Tech F Terrance Shannon has entered the portal.  Already heard from Kentucky, Michigan, UConn and Illinois
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 25, 2022, 01:27:45 PM
Texas Tech F Terrance Shannon has entered the portal.  Already heard from Kentucky, Michigan, UConn and Illinois

He's a good player. Injury bug bit him this year and he took awhile to find his way back into the consistent rotation.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: NBBomber on March 25, 2022, 02:42:17 PM
Recruiting a pair of brothers to Marquette? What could possibly go wrong?

That....was....funny!!!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 25, 2022, 06:56:59 PM
Alabama transfer Alex Tchikou has heard from Marquette
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 25, 2022, 09:37:05 PM
Chart of players MU contacts

Name  Former Team   Position   Height   Projected BPR   Transfer Star    HS Star   PRPG!   Ortg
Alex Tchikou   Alabama   PF/C   6'11"   7.7   3   4   -   -
Noah Carter   Northern Iowa   PF   6'6"   17.9   4   2   3.6   111
Warren Washington   Nevada   PF/C   7'0"   22.4   4   3   3.1   118.2
Jalen Graham   Arizona State   PF/C   6'9"   16.4   4   3   1.6   92.9
Jaylan Gainey   Brown   PF/C   6'9"   3.7   3   2   2.6   125.8
Fardaw Aimaq   Utah Valley    C   6'11"   26.7   5   2   3.6   104.5
Kendal Coleman   Northwestern St.    C   6'8"   -11   2   2   2.3   104.2
Antonio Reeves   Illinois State   SG   6'5"   8.9   3   2   4   109.1
Taylor Funk   Saint Josephs   PF   6'8"   14.4   4   2   3.2   112.9
Cam Hayes   NC State   G   6'3"   14.2   4   4   0.6   88.9
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 26, 2022, 12:13:11 PM
Nothing confirmed but I'm hearing Grant Basile to Madison rumors.

What a monster pickup that would be for them.

Hopefully someone else can come in and get him.  Haven't seen Marquette linked at all even though he's close to home.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 26, 2022, 12:13:46 PM
Nothing confirmed but I'm hearing Grant Basile to Madison rumors.

What a monster pickup that would be for them.

Hopefully someone else can come in and get him.  Haven't seen Marquette linked at all even though he's close to home.

Sounds like suberbar
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 26, 2022, 12:16:09 PM
Chart of players MU contacts

Name  Former Team   Position   Height   Projected BPR   Transfer Star    HS Star   PRPG!   Ortg
Alex Tchikou   Alabama   PF/C   6'11"   7.7   3   4   -   -
Noah Carter   Northern Iowa   PF   6'6"   17.9   4   2   3.6   111
Warren Washington   Nevada   PF/C   7'0"   22.4   4   3   3.1   118.2
Jalen Graham   Arizona State   PF/C   6'9"   16.4   4   3   1.6   92.9
Jaylan Gainey   Brown   PF/C   6'9"   3.7   3   2   2.6   125.8
Fardaw Aimaq   Utah Valley    C   6'11"   26.7   5   2   3.6   104.5
Kendal Coleman   Northwestern St.    C   6'8"   -11   2   2   2.3   104.2
Antonio Reeves   Illinois State   SG   6'5"   8.9   3   2   4   109.1
Taylor Funk   Saint Josephs   PF   6'8"   14.4   4   2   3.2   112.9
Cam Hayes   NC State   G   6'3"   14.2   4   4   0.6   88.9

Tchikou, Washington, and Aimaq is a heck of a list.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 26, 2022, 12:27:11 PM
Nothing confirmed but I'm hearing Grant Basile to Madison rumors.

What a monster pickup that would be for them.

Hopefully someone else can come in and get him.  Haven't seen Marquette linked at all even though he's close to home.

I wouldnt call that a monster pickup.  At the P6 level he's a tweener 4/5, ok shooter but not sure he can hold up defensively.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 26, 2022, 01:14:16 PM
I wouldnt call that a monster pickup.  At the P6 level he's a tweener 4/5, ok shooter but not sure he can hold up defensively.

Lol right ? Monster pick up ? Cmon. He’s a horizon league player
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 01:25:07 PM
Chart of players MU contacts

Name  Former Team   Position   Height   Projected BPR   Transfer Star    HS Star   PRPG!   Ortg
Alex Tchikou   Alabama   PF/C   6'11"   7.7   3   4   -   -
Noah Carter   Northern Iowa   PF   6'6"   17.9   4   2   3.6   111
Warren Washington   Nevada   PF/C   7'0"   22.4   4   3   3.1   118.2
Jalen Graham   Arizona State   PF/C   6'9"   16.4   4   3   1.6   92.9
Jaylan Gainey   Brown   PF/C   6'9"   3.7   3   2   2.6   125.8
Fardaw Aimaq   Utah Valley    C   6'11"   26.7   5   2   3.6   104.5
Kendal Coleman   Northwestern St.    C   6'8"   -11   2   2   2.3   104.2
Antonio Reeves   Illinois State   SG   6'5"   8.9   3   2   4   109.1
Taylor Funk   Saint Josephs   PF   6'8"   14.4   4   2   3.2   112.9
Cam Hayes   NC State   G   6'3"   14.2   4   4   0.6   88.9

Solid List.  Let's go now!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 26, 2022, 01:30:10 PM
Nothing confirmed but I'm hearing Grant Basile to Madison rumors.

What a monster pickup that would be for them.

Hopefully someone else can come in and get him.  Haven't seen Marquette linked at all even though he's close to home.
If that's "a monster pick up" for them, then good for them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2022, 01:31:31 PM
Nothing confirmed but I'm hearing Grant Basile to Madison rumors.

What a monster pickup that would be for them.

Hopefully someone else can come in and get him.  Haven't seen Marquette linked at all even though he's close to home.

Wright State finished 4th in one the worst leagues on the nation.  He’ll be a depth piece, not a difference maker
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2022, 01:56:09 PM
I can live with Grant Basile going to UW, actually more than if he went to MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 26, 2022, 01:56:22 PM
Kinda like Kolek, den, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 26, 2022, 02:13:44 PM
I can live with Grant Basile going to UW, actually more than if he went to MU.

Best case scenario with Basile at madison is what? Backing up Wahl and Crowl in a 3 man rotations? Does UW try playing Basile Wahl and Crowl together? That team won't be able to shoot then.

It seems like a weird spot to actually end up. Wisconsin needs like 3-4 new guards before they need him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2022, 02:14:41 PM
Best case scenario with Basile at madison is what? Backing up Wahl and Crowl in a 3 man rotations? Does UW try playing Basile Wahl and Crowl together? That team won't be able to shoot then.

It seems like a weird spot to actually end up. Wisconsin needs like 3-4 new guards before they need him.

They may not like some of the bigs they have
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 26, 2022, 03:25:59 PM
Kinda like Kolek, den, hey?

Second team all conference in a terrible league versus freshman of the year in one of the top 2-3 mid major leagues, basically the same thing. Sure  ::)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 26, 2022, 09:15:12 PM
Dickie V just tweeted that Notre Dame is also in on Basile.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2022, 09:16:51 PM
Dickie V just tweeted that Notre Dame is also in on Basile.

Well, there goes Wisconsin’s national title hopes
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 26, 2022, 09:18:10 PM
Well, there goes Wisconsin’s national title hopes

They had those?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 27, 2022, 11:46:47 AM
Chart of players MU contacts

Name  Former Team   Position   Height   Projected BPR   Transfer Star    HS Star   PRPG!   Ortg
Alex Tchikou   Alabama   PF/C   6'11"   7.7   3   4   -   -
Noah Carter   Northern Iowa   PF   6'6"   17.9   4   2   3.6   111
Warren Washington   Nevada   PF/C   7'0"   22.4   4   3   3.1   118.2
Jalen Graham   Arizona State   PF/C   6'9"   16.4   4   3   1.6   92.9
Jaylan Gainey   Brown   PF/C   6'9"   3.7   3   2   2.6   125.8
Fardaw Aimaq   Utah Valley    C   6'11"   26.7   5   2   3.6   104.5
Kendal Coleman   Northwestern St.    C   6'8"   -11   2   2   2.3   104.2
Antonio Reeves   Illinois State   SG   6'5"   8.9   3   2   4   109.1
Taylor Funk   Saint Josephs   PF   6'8"   14.4   4   2   3.2   112.9
Cam Hayes   NC State   G   6'3"   14.2   4   4   0.6   88.9

Was it reported that Reeves was contacted by Marquette.

He may be the best scorer in the portal to this point but this was from this morning:

"Illinois State transfer Antonio Reeves has heard from Duke, Texas Tech, BYU, Memphis, Xavier, Alabama, DePaul, Oklahoma, Arizona State, Kentucky, North Carolina, Ohio State, and Wisconsin, he told @Stockrisers.

Averaged 20.1 points, 3.4 boards, and 1.2 steals per game."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TedBaxter on March 27, 2022, 01:01:09 PM
Not for sure they've contacted Reeves.  He was being followed on Twitter by a member of the staff.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 27, 2022, 02:30:35 PM
Not for sure they've contacted Reeves.  He was being followed on Twitter by a member of the staff.

If it's Carl Richburg, I'm not sure there's anyone he's not following on Twitter.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on March 27, 2022, 02:31:43 PM
Maybe we can get Wardle in a package deal?

 https://www.yahoo.com/news/bradley-mens-basketball-sophomore-jayson-190049151.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/bradley-mens-basketball-sophomore-jayson-190049151.html)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 27, 2022, 02:40:58 PM
PortalUpdates
@portal_updates
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Northern Iowa transfer Noah Carter tells Portal Updates that he has heard from Arkansas, Florida, Ole Miss, Virginia Tech, BYU, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Mizzou, Marquette, Wichita State, and  Colorado State. Carter averaged 15 ppg, 4.1 rebounds, and 2 assists.

More confirmation of contact on Carter
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 27, 2022, 02:45:04 PM
After visiting FSU. Jaylan Gainey had future visits set with Ole Miss and Marquette. After this weekend, expect a decision to come sooner rather than later.

Sounds like a top 3
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 27, 2022, 02:48:46 PM
After visiting FSU. Jaylan Gainey had future visits set with Ole Miss and Marquette. After this weekend, expect a decision to come sooner rather than later.

Sounds like a top 3

Just curious. In reading this, it sounds like the visit to FSU was recently? And that he had scheduled visits with Ole Miss and MU but now a decision might be coming before those?

If so, seems like FSU might be the choice.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on March 27, 2022, 03:16:08 PM
Just curious. In reading this, it sounds like the visit to FSU was recently? And that he had scheduled visits with Ole Miss and MU but now a decision might be coming before those?

If so, seems like FSU might be the choice. 

Has anybody seen this kid play?  It’s not like he killed it at Brown?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 27, 2022, 03:16:18 PM
After visiting FSU. Jaylan Gainey had future visits set with Ole Miss and Marquette. After this weekend, expect a decision to come sooner rather than later.

Sounds like a top 3

Would be a really nice pick up early in the game.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 27, 2022, 03:18:15 PM


He's a 6'9, back to back defensive player of the year who rebounds the ball well. Dont think he would be the end of our transfer portal needs but would be a great start.

Other schools that expressed interest in him - Duke, Arkansas, Florida State, Virginia, Oklahoma, Butler, Creighton, etc.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2022, 03:20:19 PM


His advanced numbers are pretty damn good with the caveat being competetion level.  I’d be pretty happy adding him into the rotation.  His rebounding numbers are good and you could do worse adding a capable rebounder to this team given Marquette’s weakness in that regard
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 27, 2022, 03:22:49 PM
Gainey looks like the athletic, around the rim 5 type Shaka seems to be looking for.  Good 1 year stop gap to let the young bigs keep developing, and gives us room for the 2023 class where we seem to be in on a lot of really talented recruits.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 27, 2022, 03:34:41 PM
Virtually all of the bigs we have reached out are built in the same mold as Kuath. Athletic, quick, and long defenders. Not big in the scoring department (except Aimaq). It's very clear that Shaka has a type.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 27, 2022, 03:42:02 PM
TAMU

My kind of guys. If we can get a more advanced Kur, I would be very happy.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 27, 2022, 03:54:22 PM
Just curious. In reading this, it sounds like the visit to FSU was recently? And that he had scheduled visits with Ole Miss and MU but now a decision might be coming before those?

If so, seems like FSU might be the choice.


That's exactly what it sounds like.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 27, 2022, 03:58:08 PM
Virtually all of the bigs we have reached out are built in the same mold as Kuath. Athletic, quick, and long defenders. Not big in the scoring department (except Aimaq). It's very clear that Shaka has a type.

But hopefully better rebounders.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 27, 2022, 04:40:35 PM
But hopefully better rebounders.

Hopefully...but those expecting good rebounding under Shaka are likely to be disappointed. Shaka hasn't had a team finish in the top 145 for defensive rebounding% EVER in 13 seasons of coaching. He hasn't a had a team finish in the top 70 for offensive rebounding since his VCU days. Poor rebounding is not a one year glitch, it's a feature of Shaka's system.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 27, 2022, 07:15:35 PM
Just curious. In reading this, it sounds like the visit to FSU was recently? And that he had scheduled visits with Ole Miss and MU but now a decision might be coming before those?

If so, seems like FSU might be the choice.

This is the exact quote.

Those close to the situation feel Florida State, Ole Miss, and Marquette are the three schools toward the top of his list.

Going into his Florida State visit, Jaylan Gainey had future visits set with Ole Miss and Marquette. We will see if those happen after this weekend, as On3 expects a decision to come early this week.

Seems like one we can maybe move on from based off the wording there. Florida State would appear to be the choice.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 27, 2022, 10:17:17 PM
Hopefully...but those expecting good rebounding under Shaka are likely to be disappointed. Shaka hasn't had a team finish in the top 145 for defensive rebounding% EVER in 13 seasons of coaching. He hasn't a had a team finish in the top 70 for offensive rebounding since his VCU days. Poor rebounding is not a one year glitch, it's a feature of Shaka's system.

I'm not expecting great rebounding, but the defensive rebounding has to at least be better than terrible, which it was this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 28, 2022, 07:29:33 AM
I'm not expecting great rebounding, but the defensive rebounding has to at least be better than terrible, which it was this year.

I'm not expecting great rebounding either, but it would be nice if our guys at least try to be in a position to secure a rebound that is nowhere near the rim and elevate to get it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 28, 2022, 07:52:39 AM
I just watch the fundamentals of Villanova's rebounding and it's incredible to me that you don't see it from more teams.  They are smaller than most teams they're going up against yet they compete on the boards because they know how to find their man, box out, and then go and get the basketball.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 28, 2022, 08:36:37 AM
Hopefully...but those expecting good rebounding under Shaka are likely to be disappointed. Shaka hasn't had a team finish in the top 145 for defensive rebounding% EVER in 13 seasons of coaching. He hasn't a had a team finish in the top 70 for offensive rebounding since his VCU days. Poor rebounding is not a one year glitch, it's a feature of Shaka's system.

While true, it certainly isn't typically true to this year's extent. I do think this year was an outlier. Offensive rebounding, this was more than 100 spots worse than his previous worst season. In his 12 years as a head coach, his teams were top-150 8 times and never worse than 218 (325 this year).

Defensive rebounding is less encouraging. This wasn't his worst (313 this year, 330 in 2020) but the 200-250 range is probably a bit more of a normal expectation. Still not great, though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on March 28, 2022, 08:42:58 AM
I just watch the fundamentals of Villanova's rebounding and it's incredible to me that you don't see it from more teams.  They are smaller than most teams they're going up against yet they compete on the boards because they know how to find their man, box out, and then go and get the basketball.

I saw a video of Villanova’s warmups from their last game and it’s crazy how much they focus on the fundamentals (jump stops, ball fakes, etc). It almost looked cheesy and overdone, but it clearly translates to the games and works. It’s amazing how so many other teams are so flawed when it comes to the fundamentals.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 28, 2022, 10:10:44 AM
While true, it certainly isn't typically true to this year's extent. I do think this year was an outlier. Offensive rebounding, this was more than 100 spots worse than his previous worst season. In his 12 years as a head coach, his teams were top-150 8 times and never worse than 218 (325 this year).

Defensive rebounding is less encouraging. This wasn't his worst (313 this year, 330 in 2020) but the 200-250 range is probably a bit more of a normal expectation. Still not great, though.

Oh for sure. Shaka can and NEEDS to improve on the dismal rebounding performance this year. Just throwing it out there that we shouldn't expect to ever be an elite or even a very good rebounding team under Shaka. Good thing is we don't need to be. If we have high efficiency scoring/low efficiency opponent scoring paired with low turnovers/high forced turnovers, we just need the rebounding to be okay in order to be successful.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 28, 2022, 10:25:13 AM
Oh for sure. Shaka can and NEEDS to improve on the dismal rebounding performance this year. Just throwing it out there that we shouldn't expect to ever be an elite or even a very good rebounding team under Shaka. Good thing is we don't need to be. If we have high efficiency scoring/low efficiency opponent scoring paired with low turnovers/high forced turnovers, we just need the rebounding to be okay in order to be successful.

If I am recalling correctly from a PaintTouches thread (let me know if I am off), improving on defensive rebounding was the big key--or I have that reversed.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 28, 2022, 10:30:17 AM
If I am recalling correctly from a PaintTouches thread (let me know if I am off), improving on defensive rebounding was the big key--or I have that reversed.

I'm sure it was. Been discussed a lot this year. Rob Lowe from Cracked Sidewalks in particular harps on this, and justifiably so.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 28, 2022, 10:46:04 AM
If I am recalling correctly from a PaintTouches thread (let me know if I am off), improving on defensive rebounding was the big key--or I have that reversed.

There probably was a thread about it. When you break down basketball to its nuts and bolts there are really only 11 statistics that play a role in the outcome of the game (10 of them are 5 pairs of offensive/defensive splits of the same stat). Defensive rebounding% is tied (with offensive rebounding %) for the 5th most important of those 11 statistics (and the bottom 3 are almost meaningless in impact). You win the top 4, and you really have to F up the bottom 7 in order to lose a basketball game.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: withoutbias on March 28, 2022, 10:50:17 AM
To me the most important thing you need to do to win a basketball game is to score more points than you allow your opponent to score.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 28, 2022, 10:55:27 AM
To me the most important thing you need to do to win a basketball game is to score more points than you allow your opponent to score.

Can you please stop it with your "advanced stats" please?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 28, 2022, 12:00:09 PM
To me the most important thing you need to do to win a basketball game is to score more points than you allow your opponent to score.

Yep, and there are many ways that you can accomplish that outcome and 11 significant ways to measure those different ways of scoring more points!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on March 28, 2022, 12:32:51 PM
There probably was a thread about it. When you break down basketball to its nuts and bolts there are really only 11 statistics that play a role in the outcome of the game (10 of them are 5 pairs of offensive/defensive splits of the same stat). Defensive rebounding% is tied (with offensive rebounding %) for the 5th most important of those 11 statistics (and the bottom 3 are almost meaningless in impact). You win the top 4, and you really have to F up the bottom 7 in order to lose a basketball game.
Where do free throws rank?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2022, 01:11:52 PM
BREAKING: Davidson’s Michael Jones is in the transfer portal.

The 6’5” junior guard averaged 12 points , 3.6 rebounds, and 2 assists per game. Shot 46% from the field, and 42% from 3.

Per PortalUpdates on Twitter.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PBRme on March 28, 2022, 01:17:03 PM
No MU players in portal (yet).

That alone is some kind of achievement.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 28, 2022, 01:25:33 PM
PBR

I have been thinking the same thing. If everyone sticks around, I think it shows a great deal of progress in building a culture under Shaka. It would be surprising if we did not lose a guy or two, but the lack of urgency for guys to leave is encouraging to me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PBRme on March 28, 2022, 01:29:50 PM
Agreed

It helps that Shaka plays 9-10 deep
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 28, 2022, 01:30:39 PM
I have long felt that I would be more surprised by having a transfer out than by having zero this year. I think the culture and buy-in is real, and the only guys slated to return that didn't have significant minutes were Itejere (redshirt) and Ellis (constantly hyped by staff).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 28, 2022, 01:36:28 PM
Where do free throws rank?

Amount taken? 7th and 8th (Free Throw Rate and Free Throw Rate Allowed). Then there's a huge gap and then FT% and FT% Allowed are 2 of the bottom 3.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 28, 2022, 01:38:14 PM
I have long felt that I would be more surprised by having a transfer out than by having zero this year. I think the culture and buy-in is real, and the only guys slated to return that didn't have significant minutes were Itejere (redshirt) and Ellis (constantly hyped by staff).

Are you counting Greg in this?  Because I'd be floored if he returned. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 28, 2022, 01:44:25 PM
I saw a video of Villanova’s warmups from their last game and it’s crazy how much they focus on the fundamentals (jump stops, ball fakes, etc). It almost looked cheesy and overdone, but it clearly translates to the games and works. It’s amazing how so many other teams are so flawed when it comes to the fundamentals.

Looks cheesy, but creates great habits.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PBRme on March 28, 2022, 01:46:08 PM
Are you counting Greg in this?  Because I'd be floored if he returned.

I forget he still has eligibility.  He might be a MU student longer than I was.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 28, 2022, 01:50:09 PM
Are you counting Greg in this?  Because I'd be floored if he returned.

I am not. Always thought of him like Darryl and Kur in that this was his last year. I know he could exercise his extra year, so I suppose he could transfer out, but either way I think he's done here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2022, 02:35:05 PM
The Mitchell Twins 6'10" and 6'9" just entered the portal.

Previously at Maryland and most recently Rhode Island.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 28, 2022, 03:20:57 PM
The Mitchell Twins 6'10" and 6'9" just entered the portal.

Previously at Maryland and most recently Rhode Island.

Come on, Coach Haynes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 28, 2022, 03:28:39 PM
Not suggesting I want him at MU, but Illinois G Andre Curbelo is in the portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GB Warrior on March 28, 2022, 03:36:37 PM
Not suggesting I want him at MU, but Illinois G Andre Curbelo is in the portal.

(https://c.tenor.com/D1JPzMIO7GwAAAAM/nope-definitely-not.gif)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 28, 2022, 03:44:50 PM
Not suggesting I want him at MU, but Illinois G Andre Curbelo is in the portal.

God no
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: dannyb334 on March 28, 2022, 03:53:18 PM
As an avid A-10 follower, I'd want Michael Jones at MU 100%. Can score at all levels and an above-average defender.

I would NOT want the Mitchell twins though. They're athletic and are impressive on the defensive end, but can't score and are abysmal from the FT line. Maybe the offensive numbers will increase with less usage, but they certainly wouldn't be first on my list at MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 28, 2022, 04:13:25 PM
I'd take Curbello.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 28, 2022, 04:20:04 PM
No MU players in portal (yet).

That alone is some kind of achievement.

Banquet is 4/11.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: nyg on March 28, 2022, 04:25:03 PM
Samuell Williamson, former Top 20 recruit, 6ft7, 210, from Louisville.
Was an MU target, who actually visited.

On side note, saw Bryce Golden from Butler put name in, let the player exits start.

Some keep talking about needing multiple players from portal.  With the incoming freshmen, MU only has one spot open?  Correct and does that include Elliott leaving?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on March 28, 2022, 04:32:22 PM
Ben Vander Plas from Ohio has entered the portal, from Ripon.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 28, 2022, 04:35:27 PM
I'd take Curbello.

He looked so bad this year. Granted he went through injuries and never cracked the rotation consistently. Man flashes of greatness followed by absolute bone headed plays. If he finds a good landing spot, he'll be able to take the next step, but I don't know if I would enjoy being a part of the Belo show lol.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 28, 2022, 04:37:30 PM
Ben Vander Plas from Ohio has entered the portal, from Ripon.

Was just about to post this, love his game and would take him in a heartbeat. Not sure he fits the rangy, bouncy rebounder type that this roster craves. Regardless, will be a solid player making a step up next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 28, 2022, 04:39:37 PM
He looked so bad this year. Granted he went through injuries and never cracked the rotation consistently. Man flashes of greatness followed by absolute bone headed plays. If he finds a good landing spot, he'll be able to take the next step, but I don't know if I would enjoy being a part of the Belo show lol.

Absolutely no way I touch Curbello

He can go to a mid major and be the popcorn show with them.

He was a complete liability for Illinois.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 28, 2022, 04:42:08 PM
Absolutely no way I touch Curbello

He can go to a mid major and be the popcorn show with them.

He was a complete liability for Illinois.

He shot the ball much better his first year - I really think the neck injury held him back big time. He'll get a fresh start at another high major. Zero percent chance he drops down a level.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2022, 04:47:06 PM
Sean McNeil into the Portal from West Virginia.

Love his game.  6'3" shooting guard. Quick off the dribble, primarily a 3 and D guy.

We had a good look at him in Charleston. Solid numbers in the Big 12 this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: nyg on March 28, 2022, 04:50:08 PM
OK, I'll try again.

How many openings does MU have, one?
Does that include Elliott?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 28, 2022, 04:53:04 PM
OK, I'll try again.

How many openings does MU have, one?
Does that include Elliott?

Zero if Greg returns.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: nyg on March 28, 2022, 04:57:45 PM
Zero if Greg returns.

Thanks.  I presume he is done, that is why Shaka offering/inquiring.
Then wait until probably Lewis returns from NBA combine and the input he gets.
Wait and see if any current players leaving. 

Only asking because some on this board are saying MU needs multiple portal players, yet only one opening.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 28, 2022, 05:01:08 PM
Thanks.  I presume he is done, that is why Shaka offering/inquiring.
Then wait until probably Lewis returns from NBA combine and the input he gets.
Wait and see if any current players leaving. 

Only asking because some on this board are saying MU needs multiple portal players, yet only one opening.

I would think they are keeping all options open knowing Lewis may leave which leads some to speculate on multiple players.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 28, 2022, 05:29:57 PM
Not suggesting I want him at MU, but Illinois G Andre Curbelo is in the portal.

Absolutely not. Curbelo actually played for Marquette earlier this season. We couldn’t have won that game without him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 28, 2022, 05:50:47 PM
So do any of the coaches visit a possible transfer,or is it all by phone?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2022, 05:56:44 PM
So do any of the coaches visit a possible transfer,or is it all by phone?

Yes, though in this economy they usually have the recruit visit the campus like a high school kid would.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2022, 05:59:24 PM
I would think they are keeping all options open knowing Lewis may leave which leads some to speculate on multiple players.

Last year we had -1 roster spots and Shaka was still recruiting Darryl, Kur, Tyler, and OMAX.

Theres probably conversations behind the scenes with players and coaches on what type of PT to expect, how they will fit, and many other things.

Jose Perez, Dexter Akanno, and maybe a few others were kinda phased out and almost seemingly forced to transfer last year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bilsu on March 28, 2022, 06:34:35 PM
No MU players in portal (yet).

That alone is some kind of achievement.
Do teams still have to release players? In the past MU would not release a player until he finished up the academic year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2022, 07:04:05 PM
KJ Williams of Murray State to the Portal.

Per Jeff Borzello

OVC Player of the Year KJ Williams is in the portal. Averaged 18.0 points and 8.4 rebounds. 6-foot-10 big man went for at least 30 points on four occasions. Career 35% 3-point shooter.

MONSTER addition to the Portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 28, 2022, 07:09:47 PM
David Skogman could be a solid backup 5 for us.  Pretty mobile, Shaka seems to prefer that. Announced he's transferring from Buffalo.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 28, 2022, 07:12:19 PM
David Skogman could be a solid backup 5 for us.  Pretty mobile, Shaka seems to prefer that. Announced he's transferring from Buffalo.

Actually hits a decent clip from outside too.  He’d be a solid backup for sure
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 28, 2022, 07:25:49 PM
KJ Williams of Murray State to the Portal.

Per Jeff Borzello

OVC Player of the Year KJ Williams is in the portal. Averaged 18.0 points and 8.4 rebounds. 6-foot-10 big man went for at least 30 points on four occasions. Career 35% 3-point shooter.

MONSTER addition to the Portal.

He is following his coach to LSU
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2022, 07:32:29 PM
He is following his coach to LSU

Are they going to get slapped with sanctions?

Also they just signed transfer Kendal Coleman who averaged 15 and 11.  Not enough minutes for those 2.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 28, 2022, 07:49:47 PM
He is following his coach to LSU

He wants to go to the NBA, following McMahon probably isn't the best way to do that.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mubb3434 on March 28, 2022, 08:00:35 PM
KJ Williams of Murray State to the Portal.

Per Jeff Borzello

OVC Player of the Year KJ Williams is in the portal. Averaged 18.0 points and 8.4 rebounds. 6-foot-10 big man went for at least 30 points on four occasions. Career 35% 3-point shooter.

MONSTER addition to the Portal.

This has Kentucky written all over it
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 28, 2022, 08:05:52 PM
This has Kentucky written all over it

If they end up in need of a big, there's speculation they will grab the guy from Morehead State (who isn't in the portal yet).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 28, 2022, 08:52:13 PM
If they end up in need of a big, there's speculation they will grab the guy from Morehead State (who isn't in the portal yet).

Oscar could still return, and likely will. My guess is they'll end up going young in the transfer market for a big.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 28, 2022, 08:52:53 PM
David Skogman could be a solid backup 5 for us.  Pretty mobile, Shaka seems to prefer that. Announced he's transferring from Buffalo.
agree. Local kid from Waukesha. Oates recruited him for Buffalo. Wondering if ‘bama is calling.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on March 28, 2022, 08:55:11 PM
I'd take Curbello.

Me too. I think a part of his struggle this year is that he was an odd fit with Cockburn. I’m a little bummed he’s leaving, I thought he and Coleman Hawkins we’re gonna be a ton of fun together next year.  I understand why someone wouldn’t want him on their team, but I don’t think you leave his kind of ability on the table even if you aren’t totally sure how you’ll harness it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TedBaxter on March 29, 2022, 06:06:44 AM
The fact remains.  Marquette has one scholarship available right now, that we know of, and the need is an inside guy who can tandem with Osa and Keeyan Itejere. 

Will Justin Lewis opt for professional basketball?

Will any other current players opt for the portal?

I know this is a message board and you can speculate all you want, but I think it's comical when people say they'll take this player and they'll take that player when probably nobody on this board actually knows if Shaka will have more than 1 scholarship to work with and what position Shaka will need for an additional player at if he has more to give.

The other issue is that if they fill the available scholarship with a non-senior, Shaka doesn't have a clear 2023 opening unless someone else leaves.  You can say that Justin Lewis, if he doesn't leave this spring, may only play one more year at MU, but that is only one scholarship.

I'm not going to stop the speculation and it can be fun to think about.  It's just that there are so many factors that you have think about as a coaching staff, especially a staff that is in it's second year of building the program.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 29, 2022, 07:36:30 AM
The fact remains.  Marquette has one scholarship available right now, that we know of, and the need is an inside guy who can tandem with Osa and Keeyan Itejere. 

Will Justin Lewis opt for professional basketball?

Will any other current players opt for the portal?

I know this is a message board and you can speculate all you want, but I think it's comical when people say they'll take this player and they'll take that player when probably nobody on this board actually knows if Shaka will have more than 1 scholarship to work with and what position Shaka will need for an additional player at if he has more to give.

The other issue is that if they fill the available scholarship with a non-senior, Shaka doesn't have a clear 2023 opening unless someone else leaves.  You can say that Justin Lewis, if he doesn't leave this spring, may only play one more year at MU, but that is only one scholarship.

I'm not going to stop the speculation and it can be fun to think about.  It's just that there are so many factors that you have think about as a coaching staff, especially a staff that is in it's second year of building the program.

The coaching staff has reached out to a number of guys who have entered the transfer portal, so it seems that they'll have at least one opening worth speculating about.  And probably more.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: IrwinFletcher on March 29, 2022, 07:44:05 AM
While true, it certainly isn't typically true to this year's extent. I do think this year was an outlier. Offensive rebounding, this was more than 100 spots worse than his previous worst season. In his 12 years as a head coach, his teams were top-150 8 times and never worse than 218 (325 this year).

Defensive rebounding is less encouraging. This wasn't his worst (313 this year, 330 in 2020) but the 200-250 range is probably a bit more of a normal expectation. Still not great, though.

I wish Ben Steele or someone would ask him about this.  Is it philosophical and if so, how does his philosophy off-set the average to bad rebounding.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 29, 2022, 08:07:54 AM
I wish Ben Steele or someone would ask him about this.  Is it philosophical and if so, how does his philosophy off-set the average to bad rebounding.

It's been asked a few times. Nevada Smith on the Golden Breakdown podcast talked about how it was largely personnel related and it was something they weren't going to fix this season, inferring there would be more of a focus on rebounding improvement through future recruiting. I believe it was Broeker who talked on Twitter about how they charted turnovers vs offensive rebounds, which would indicate a focus on net possessions and that if you could create a turnover, it essentially offset an offensive rebound and that was how they planned to mitigate the defensive rebounding deficiencies.

What really frustrated me just as much though was the offensive rebounding on our end. We were elite at scoring after offensive rebounds, which makes it that much more frustrating that we were so bad at it. In addition, Justin, O-Max, and Kur all saw their offensive rebounding percentages take significant dips this year. I understand the theory that going for offensive rebounds can hurt your transition defense because guys are at the rim instead of getting back on defense, but the numbers don't really bear out that reality. There is a stronger correlation that teams that pursue offensive rebounds actually have better transition defense, likely because they are in position to slow the break at its inception and when they get the board and convert it allows the defense to be better set, limiting transition opportunities.

Coming back to the subject of the thread, I do think they are trying to fix this. Aimaq, Gainey, Washington, and Coleman are all excellent rebounders. On paper, Wrightsil fits that mold as well. Depending on the available scholarships, I think we'll see at least one big that can bang down low and another that they'll want to get to the boards and stretch the floor. I think in their perfect world, they add a stretch 4 and a 5.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 29, 2022, 09:00:36 AM
It's been asked a few times. Nevada Smith on the Golden Breakdown podcast talked about how it was largely personnel related and it was something they weren't going to fix this season, inferring there would be more of a focus on rebounding improvement through future recruiting. I believe it was Broeker who talked on Twitter about how they charted turnovers vs offensive rebounds, which would indicate a focus on net possessions and that if you could create a turnover, it essentially offset an offensive rebound and that was how they planned to mitigate the defensive rebounding deficiencies.

What really frustrated me just as much though was the offensive rebounding on our end. We were elite at scoring after offensive rebounds, which makes it that much more frustrating that we were so bad at it. In addition, Justin, O-Max, and Kur all saw their offensive rebounding percentages take significant dips this year. I understand the theory that going for offensive rebounds can hurt your transition defense because guys are at the rim instead of getting back on defense, but the numbers don't really bear out that reality. There is a stronger correlation that teams that pursue offensive rebounds actually have better transition defense, likely because they are in position to slow the break at its inception and when they get the board and convert it allows the defense to be better set, limiting transition opportunities.

Coming back to the subject of the thread, I do think they are trying to fix this. Aimaq, Gainey, Washington, and Coleman are all excellent rebounders. On paper, Wrightsil fits that mold as well. Depending on the available scholarships, I think we'll see at least one big that can bang down low and another that they'll want to get to the boards and stretch the floor. I think in their perfect world, they add a stretch 4 and a 5.

4's Noah Carter and Zach Wrightsil
5's Jaylan Gainey, Mohamed Wague, Luke Northweather (2022 freshman)

These are the guys that feel most likely.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 29, 2022, 11:18:18 AM
Manny Bates has entered.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4395662/manny-bates
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bradforster on March 29, 2022, 11:43:32 AM
It's been asked a few times. Nevada Smith on the Golden Breakdown podcast talked about how it was largely personnel related and it was something they weren't going to fix this season, inferring there would be more of a focus on rebounding improvement through future recruiting. I believe it was Broeker who talked on Twitter about how they charted turnovers vs offensive rebounds, which would indicate a focus on net possessions and that if you could create a turnover, it essentially offset an offensive rebound and that was how they planned to mitigate the defensive rebounding deficiencies.

What really frustrated me just as much though was the offensive rebounding on our end. We were elite at scoring after offensive rebounds, which makes it that much more frustrating that we were so bad at it. In addition, Justin, O-Max, and Kur all saw their offensive rebounding percentages take significant dips this year. I understand the theory that going for offensive rebounds can hurt your transition defense because guys are at the rim instead of getting back on defense, but the numbers don't really bear out that reality. There is a stronger correlation that teams that pursue offensive rebounds actually have better transition defense, likely because they are in position to slow the break at its inception and when they get the board and convert it allows the defense to be better set, limiting transition opportunities.

Coming back to the subject of the thread, I do think they are trying to fix this. Aimaq, Gainey, Washington, and Coleman are all excellent rebounders. On paper, Wrightsil fits that mold as well. Depending on the available scholarships, I think we'll see at least one big that can bang down low and another that they'll want to get to the boards and stretch the floor. I think in their perfect world, they add a stretch 4 and a 5.

I listen to Boston, Philly and NY sports radio.  Do you really think the Milwaukee market is willing to ask the tough questions or put any pressure on its local sports teams?  They didn't do it when I lived there.  Maybe it's changed.  Perhaps even you could interview Shaka!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bradforster on March 29, 2022, 11:44:08 AM
I listen to Boston, Philly and NY sports radio.  Do you really think the Milwaukee market is willing to ask the tough questions or put any pressure on its local sports teams?  They didn't do it when I lived there.  Maybe it's changed.  Perhaps you could interview Shaka!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GB Warrior on March 29, 2022, 12:31:14 PM
https://theathletic.com/3211734/2022/03/29/ranking-the-best-available-mens-college-basketball-transfers-and-high-school-recruits-for-2022-23?source=user-shared-article (https://theathletic.com/3211734/2022/03/29/ranking-the-best-available-mens-college-basketball-transfers-and-high-school-recruits-for-2022-23?source=user-shared-article)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 29, 2022, 12:45:41 PM
Ben Vander Plas from Ohio has entered the portal, from Ripon.

Circling back on this...

Vander Plas posted a 17, 5 and 4 line in the 13/4 upset last year against Virginia.  He was matched up with Sam Hauser and held him to 4/16 shooting.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 29, 2022, 12:51:36 PM
I listen to Boston, Philly and NY sports radio.  Do you really think the Milwaukee market is willing to ask the tough questions or put any pressure on its local sports teams?  They didn't do it when I lived there.  Maybe it's changed.  Perhaps even you could interview Shaka!

It isn't the Milwaukee market that's the problem. I actually have been very impressed with Ben Steele's work to elevate his understanding of the types of metrics the staff uses and better explaining what's going on around the program in that regard. The problem is that the Milwaukee market isn't focused on Marquette basketball. The Packers still dominate sports talk conversation, then the Brewers, Bucks, and Badgers get the bulk of the leftover attention.

It's also who is given access. Homer has his weekly radio show with Shaka or one of the other staff members, but he's statistically illiterate and more often than not the radio show is the staff explaining to Homer how basketball works. It's informative, but Homer isn't knowledgeable enough to ask any meaningful questions because his head is usually spinning over concepts like eFG% or points per possession.

I would keep an eye on Paint Touches, if anyone has the relationships built up to get those interviews, they are the blog to do it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 29, 2022, 12:59:10 PM
 "Understand Georgia basketball player Kario Oquendo is expected to enter the transfer portal. Oquendo led the Bulldogs with 15.2 points per game last season."

SG that had Marquette in his final 3 before choosing Georgia.   Big time athlete with a scorers mentality.

Had 22 points against Kentucky, 25 points against Auburn, 33 points against Texas A&M.

Some big time games against big time teams.  Shaka had Marquette in the running once already.

Some of the athleticism on display against Tennessee below⬇️

https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1498814601634324480?t=RcdK_BM-sqJSmbU6iSchPw&s=19
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 01:03:11 PM
"Understand Georgia basketball player Kario Oquendo is expected to enter the transfer portal. Oquendo led the Bulldogs with 15.2 points per game last season."

SG that had Marquette in his final 3 before choosing Georgia.   Big time athlete with a scorers mentality.

Had 22 points against Kentucky, 25 points against Auburn, 33 points against Texas A&M.

Some big time games against big time teams.  Shaka had Marquette in the running once already.

Some of the athleticism on display against Tennessee below⬇️

https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1498814601634324480?t=RcdK_BM-sqJSmbU6iSchPw&s=19

But he didn’t win games. Seems more like a Markus rather than a Jae so we should stay away.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on March 29, 2022, 01:03:40 PM
I also think it’s just the media in general. Heck, you have Packers fans saying they wish their reporters would be tougher on LaFleur or Rodgers. Same with Stearns and the Brewers. I think the fans want to see people answer hard questions, but the media has to do it in a respectful way to not lose access.

Is the media in Milwaukee any “softer” than others? I doubt it. Maybe a little different than New York and Philly, but probably similar to the rest of the country.

I don’t think they are going to go too hard at a college basketball program when the extent of it is typically game recaps and maybe a few articles spotlighting players or how the season is going.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 29, 2022, 01:09:27 PM
But he didn’t win games. Seems more like a Markus rather than a Jae so we should stay away.

He's actually more like a Jae than a Markus.  He was a JUCO/D2 type transfer up to D1 similar to Jae with something to prove.

Also don't make it seem like Markus is some schlub. He was awesome.  Just not better than Jae in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 01:11:55 PM
He's actually more like a Jae than a Markus.  He was a JUCO/D2 type transfer up to D1 similar to Jae with something to prove.

Also don't make it seem like Markus is some schlub. He was awesome.  Just not better than Jae in my opinion.

He only won 6 games all of last year, that’s not a lot of winning. You know who we should bring back is Theo. Look at all the winning he’s doing this year, 30+ wins and in the final four. If we’re going to focus on building a winning team we need guys like that not guys that only win 6 games a year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 29, 2022, 01:15:41 PM
He only won 6 games all of last year, that’s not a lot of winning. You know who we should bring back is Theo. Look at all the winning he’s doing this year, 30+ wins and in the final four. If we’re going to focus on building a winning team we need guys like that not guys that only win 6 games a year.

I see what you are doing, but if you think a team of Markus and Theos are going to take on a team of Jae's and Jimmy's then idk what to tell you.

Markus was good, easy kid to root for.  I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 01:18:26 PM
So do we want Kario or not? Because all I see is a kid that doesn’t win basketball games.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 29, 2022, 01:22:30 PM
So do we want Kario or not? Because all I see is a kid that doesn’t win basketball games.

If Shaka still wants him a second time after not winning, then I would.

If Shaka doesn't want him, then no.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 29, 2022, 01:30:46 PM
So do we want Kario or not? Because all I see is a kid that doesn’t win basketball games.

Personal opinion, no. If you look at what we're losing and what we have coming in, we don't need another guard. They reached out to Cam Hayes, that one surprised me, but other than that it's pretty much all stretch forwards that can rebound and space-eating big men. I think we'll see a 4 and 5 added, scholarships allowing.

(And apologies if I'm not supposed to take this question seriously because non-serious people are trying to engage it)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 29, 2022, 01:36:51 PM
Just to clarify because some recent posters have a difficulty or inability to understand nuance.

I prefer Jae over Markus because he is a more complete player on both ends of the floor. If I’m starting a team, of MU players from that post 2000 time frame, Jae is my first non DWade selection.

Markus is still on my Mount Rushmore because of the personal achievements he accomplished.  It’s hard to pick Markus over Jae because at Markus’ best, he was only a serviceable defender and can struggle guarding players bigger/taller than him. Jae could guard anyone and did it all on the offensive end. He’s a more valuable player to start a team with IMO. Both are great.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 29, 2022, 01:37:44 PM
https://theathletic.com/3211734/2022/03/29/ranking-the-best-available-mens-college-basketball-transfers-and-high-school-recruits-for-2022-23?source=user-shared-article (https://theathletic.com/3211734/2022/03/29/ranking-the-best-available-mens-college-basketball-transfers-and-high-school-recruits-for-2022-23?source=user-shared-article)

After reading this, my offseason priority list (with no basis in reality--I get Traore isn't likely coming here, but I can dream):

1. Yohan Traore, C/PF. "It’s tough to come up with a better frame for a collegiate big, as Traore is about 6-foot-10 with a near 7-foot-3 wingspan. He also knows how to use that frame exceedingly well, as he carves out space with ease and rebounds the heck out of the ball, plus has soft hands to catch and finish around the basket. One evaluator who has seen Traore extensively put it very simply and very smartly: He’s the epitome of a Bill Self-style Kansas big. He’s extremely comfortable within 10 feet of the rim and aggressively looks to finish everything when he gets clean opportunities. I don’t quite know that he’s a one-and-done-type until he develops his perimeter game and we see more about where he is defensively, but he’s going to be productive throughout his collegiate career."

2. Brandon Murray, G All SEC Frosh team. Strong perimeter defender. Shoots 35% from 3. He’s a clear high-major wing, and potential NBA player down the road.

3. Trevon Brazile, F. He averaged seven points and five rebounds last year while stepping away occasionally as a 4 man who can shoot from 3, and his 1.9 blocks per game were third in the SEC last season. He profiles extremely well as a shot-blocking floor-spacer at the forward position. Guy that Shaka can point to Darryl and Justin and say that he can get him to the next level. Most realistic guy to get?

4. Jalen Bridges 6-foot-7 combo forward who could step out and shoot it, get out in transition, and switch a bit defensively. Concerns that his efficiency numbers in increased minutes show ceiling. Probably not gonna create a ton of shots, but decent spot up shooter, good defender, and can really drive transition offense.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 29, 2022, 01:38:48 PM
Personal opinion, no. If you look at what we're losing and what we have coming in, we don't need another guard. They reached out to Cam Hayes, that one surprised me, but other than that it's pretty much all stretch forwards that can rebound and space-eating big men. I think we'll see a 4 and 5 added, scholarships allowing.

(And apologies if I'm not supposed to take this question seriously because non-serious people are trying to engage it)

Kario was a gunner on a bad team. He could be dangerous if he could slow down his game down a bit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 29, 2022, 01:40:22 PM
Just to clarify because some recent posters have a difficulty or inability to understand nuance.

I prefer Jae over Markus because he is a more complete player on both ends of the floor. If I’m starting a team, of MU players from that post 2000 time frame, Jae is my first non DWade selection.

Markus is still on my Mount Rushmore because of the personal achievements he accomplished.  It’s hard to pick Markus over Jae because at Markus’ best, he was only a serviceable defender and can struggle guarding players bigger/taller than him. Jae could guard anyone and did it all on the offensive end. He’s a more valuable player to start a team with IMO. Both are great.

Yup!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 01:41:12 PM
Just to clarify because some recent posters have a difficulty or inability to understand nuance.

I prefer Jae over Markus because he is a more complete player on both ends of the floor. If I’m starting a team, of MU players from that post 2000 time frame, Jae is my first non DWade selection.

Markus is still on my Mount Rushmore because of the personal achievements he accomplished.  It’s hard to pick Markus over Jae because at Markus’ best, he was only a serviceable defender and can struggle guarding players bigger/taller than him. Jae could guard anyone and did it all on the offensive end. He’s a more valuable player to start a team with IMO. Both are great.

Sir, this is the transfer portal thread, I think you meant to post this in the Mt. Rushmore thread. We discuss transfers here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 29, 2022, 01:52:41 PM
Sir, this is the transfer portal thread, I think you meant to post this in the Mt. Rushmore thread. We discuss transfers here.

“Sir” you subtweeted me in this thread saying that winning trumps all in player evaluation which carried over from my comments in the mount Rushmore thread so forgive me.

Report me to the message board police. I’m sure it’ll make you feel big and strong.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 01:56:23 PM
“Sir” you subtweeted me in this thread saying that winning trumps all in player evaluation which carried over from my comments in the mount Rushmore thread so forgive me.

Report me to the message board police. I’m sure it’ll make you feel big and strong.

I’m actually not on twitter, or most social media platforms, and all my posts on this thread have been about potential transfer targets and comparing them to former MU players. One thing I have not done is compare former MU players with each other with no mention of a potential transfer target, I think that’s where my confusion about what thread you meant to post in stems from.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 29, 2022, 01:59:50 PM
But he didn’t win games. Seems more like a Markus rather than a Jae so we should stay away.

Lol - seems like a pot shot directly relating to the conversation from the Mount Rushmore thread….

But you’re just here with pure intentions to talk transfers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 29, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
“Sir” you subtweeted me in this thread saying that winning trumps all in player evaluation which carried over from my comments in the mount Rushmore thread so forgive me.

Report me to the message board police. I’m sure it’ll make you feel big and strong.
at least he called you ‘sir’. He could have assumed gender neutral was preferred…as is the case on WI Badger mb’s.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 02:02:44 PM
Lol - seems like a pot shot directly relating to the conversation from the Mount Rushmore thread….

But you’re just here with pure intentions to talk transfers.

The “he” in that post was a reference to Kario, a potential transfer target.

Im glad we’re in agreement that this thread should be focused on potential transfers, not former players.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 29, 2022, 02:06:15 PM
Kario was a gunner on a bad team. He could be dangerous if he could slow down his game down a bit.

Sure, entirely possible. But we are bringing back Tyler, Kam, Stevie, and Ellis while adding Sean Jones and Chase Ross. We currently only have one open scholarship, two if Justin goes pro. Unless Todd can get Kario to add 7 inches and 30 pounds, I don't see the fit. We need interior strength, not questionable efficiency scoring.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 29, 2022, 02:11:21 PM
The “he” in that post was a reference to Kario, a potential transfer target.

Im glad we’re in agreement that this thread should be focused on potential transfers, not former players.

So the Markus/Jae comment had nothing to do with any other dialogue whatsoever going on in any other threads? 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 29, 2022, 02:12:51 PM
Manny Bates sure fits the profile of a Shaka center
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 02:13:54 PM
So the Markus/Jae comment had nothing to do with any other dialogue whatsoever going on in any other threads?

Of course not. All I want to do in the transfer thread is discuss what winning players we can bring in. I see no reason why we’d want someone that didn’t win, because that’s all that matters when evaluating individual players right? Whether or not the team that they play on won.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: withoutbias on March 29, 2022, 02:22:22 PM
This is a fun discussion!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 29, 2022, 02:27:10 PM
Of course not. All I want to do in the transfer thread is discuss what winning players we can bring in. I see no reason why we’d want someone that didn’t win, because that’s all that matters when evaluating individual players right? Whether or not the team that they play on won.

Lol you’re such a pric*
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on March 29, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
Lol you’re such a pric*

I will wear that like a badge of honor.

Is there any more info out there about Bates’ injury? For a big guy I’m glad it wasn’t a knee or back, but if he is limited offensively would the upside he presents on the defensive end be enough to offset it?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 29, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
David Skogman could be a solid backup 5 for us.  Pretty mobile, Shaka seems to prefer that. Announced he's transferring from Buffalo.
Also Agree. Like Grant Basile my Son also played against David Skogman. Again not spectacular but solid player. My Son also played against UNC’s Caleb Love in AAU ball. He is Spectacular but not in portal haha.
Not sure if there is any interest in David Skogman but he did a couple unofficials with UW previous to committing to Buffalo. Or like was mentioned the Waukesha West player was recruited by Oates and may draw interest from Bama.
Skogman’s Stats 8 points 6.3 Rebs 58.7% FG 38% 3FG 26 starts for a 19-11 Buffalo Team.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 29, 2022, 03:50:39 PM
Hopefully we can do better than role players at mid major schools.  We have enough role players.  We need some dudes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on March 29, 2022, 04:07:53 PM
Sure, entirely possible. But we are bringing back Tyler, Kam, Stevie, and Ellis while adding Sean Jones and Chase Ross. We currently only have one open scholarship, two if Justin goes pro. Unless Todd can get Kario to add 7 inches and 30 pounds, I don't see the fit. We need interior strength, not questionable efficiency scoring.

The only way I would take another guard is if a guard is leaving, and right now do not see it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 29, 2022, 04:22:47 PM
Tanner Holden would be an impact wing for a year
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 29, 2022, 04:23:29 PM
The only way I would take another guard is if a guard is leaving, and right now do not see it.


With the transfer portal as wild as it is, they can always force a guy out if there is a better option.

I'm not saying that is right, or even that it is going to happen, but it seemed like that is what happened last year with Perez, Carton, McEwen, and Akanno.  Those guys went though some workouts with Shaka one week and the next thing you know they are out the door. I think that'll become a common theme with the portal the way it is.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 29, 2022, 04:51:04 PM
I'm not saying that is right, or even that it is going to happen, but it seemed like that is what happened last year with Perez, Carton, McEwen, and Akanno.  Those guys went though some workouts with Shaka one week and the next thing you know they are out the door. I think that'll become a common theme with the portal the way it is.

I also think we'll see some movement after final grades are in.  That's when things got into full swing last year too.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 29, 2022, 04:54:55 PM
I do not believe Shaka is waiting for the semester to end to allow guys to leave. If guys are leaving, the sooner the better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Warrior of Law on March 29, 2022, 04:56:38 PM
I forgot about Akanno.  Ended up getting some decent minutes on a 3-28 Oregon State team. I don't see anyone getting buzzed from the backcourt. For a wing/post, MU is a great landing spot for minutes, opportunities to score, and improve.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GB Warrior on March 29, 2022, 05:09:13 PM
For a wing/post, MU is a great landing spot for minutes, opportunities to score, and improve rebound.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 29, 2022, 05:40:26 PM
I do not believe Shaka is waiting for the semester to end to allow guys to leave. If guys are leaving, the sooner the better.

Oh certainly Shaka is going to sign anyone whenever he wants, and is communicating with guys that are going to go.  But if you recall last year, MU was several scholarships over the limit in early May, that changed quickly once the end of the semester neared.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 29, 2022, 05:46:42 PM
rocky

Truthfully, I do not remember when our guys left the program and the new guys joined. I thought it was all done in April, but strictly going by memory.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 29, 2022, 05:52:48 PM
Truthfully, I do not remember when our guys left the program and the new guys joined. I thought it was all done in April, but strictly going by memory.

I don't remember exact timing either, but in late April (Apr 27) we only knew Akanno was in the portal, no word on Garcia or Perez yet, and Carton announced going pro on the 28th. 

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61958.msg1346250#msg1346250
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 29, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
rocky

Truthfully, I do not remember when our guys left the program and the new guys joined. I thought it was all done in April, but strictly going by memory.

Sy was gone before Wojo was, Koby & Cain announced right after Shaka was hired, Theo left mid-April, Dex and Jose were the last to go. Jose was in May.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Equalizer on March 29, 2022, 07:30:10 PM
6'11" 270 Sam Onu from Memphis announced he's leaving today.  Sat out this year as a redshirt, so he'd still have four years of eligibility.  Was recruited by a number of other high majors, including Kansas, Baylor, Seton Hall, Providence.




Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 29, 2022, 09:42:21 PM
6'11" 270 Sam Onu from Memphis announced he's leaving today.  Sat out this year as a redshirt, so he'd still have four years of eligibility.  Was recruited by a number of other high majors, including Kansas, Baylor, Seton Hall, Providence.
Seems like a Seton Hall sized guy.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 30, 2022, 03:48:54 AM
brew

I thought all of the guys were gone quite quickly last year. I could not imagine Shaka waiting until May for guys to make their decisions, that would be make impossible to partake in free agency. Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2022, 07:41:28 AM
Sy was gone before Wojo was, Koby & Cain announced right after Shaka was hired, Theo left mid-April, Dex and Jose were the last to go. Jose was in May.


Theo left mid-April but I think the assumption always was that he was going to turn pro...not transfer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 30, 2022, 08:46:55 AM
brew

I thought all of the guys were gone quite quickly last year. I could not imagine Shaka waiting until May for guys to make their decisions, that would be make impossible to partake in free agency. Thanks for clarifying.

When Shaka arrived, there were presumably 9 players under scholarship, as Koby, Cain, and Theo were all graduating and expected to leave (though the COVID year was still an option). Those were Greg Elliott, Jose Perez, DJ Carton, Dexter Akanno, Dawson Garcia, Justin Lewis, Oso Ighodaro, Stevie Mitchell, and Kam Jones. I believe this is the timeline:

When Kur committed, we were one over, and while Morsell didn't commit until June 28, I'm confident the staff knew that was coming by 414 Day. So while they were still working Kur and technically Darryl, they knew there would be at least two more departures. DJ was a surprise and the reason we ended up with 12 instead of 13, but when we had the four (should've been five) commits on 414 Day, they had a good idea of what the roster would look like, with Carton the unknown and Garcia the only real wildcard. Though I do think they expected Garcia would leave one way or the other.

EDIT: It's also worth remembering they might have been able to keep both Garcia and Carton, had they classified Greg as a senior using his COVID year (not sure how that would've went with the NCAA, but there was speculation it might work) and used the COVID rules to go one over.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2022, 08:50:56 AM
So is 414 Day an actual thing?  So we will still need to wait two weeks for any news?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 30, 2022, 08:55:13 AM
So is 414 Day an actual thing?  So we will still need to wait two weeks for any news?

I'm guessing that was a one-time thing to make a splash with the new hire. Especially as this year it seems the most we will add is two transfers, maybe three if there's an unexpected departure.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 30, 2022, 09:03:54 AM
Thanks for the timeline brew.  If only Shaka could have managed to have 14 scholarship players on 414 day! hah.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Spirit Of James on March 30, 2022, 09:48:14 AM
This is a really good resource for who is in the transfer portal, and his rankings of each player.  Go to 'Transfer Portal' under the home icon:

https://evanmiya.com/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 30, 2022, 11:28:08 AM
"Understand Georgia basketball player Kario Oquendo is expected to enter the transfer portal. Oquendo led the Bulldogs with 15.2 points per game last season."

SG that had Marquette in his final 3 before choosing Georgia.   Big time athlete with a scorers mentality.

Had 22 points against Kentucky, 25 points against Auburn, 33 points against Texas A&M.

Some big time games against big time teams.  Shaka had Marquette in the running once already.

Some of the athleticism on display against Tennessee below⬇️

https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1498814601634324480?t=RcdK_BM-sqJSmbU6iSchPw&s=19
Would like to see MU go hard after Kario again.

He has proven he can play at the highest level. Shaka would get the most of out of him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on March 30, 2022, 12:45:42 PM
Would like to see MU go hard after Kario again.

He has proven he can play at the highest level. Shaka would get the most of out of him.

He would definitely replace Morsell, I agree, probably would be leading scorer on the team next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DoctorV on March 30, 2022, 12:46:56 PM
Would like to see MU go hard after Kario again.

He has proven he can play at the highest level. Shaka would get the most of out of him.

That would be Sikario

Edited to add that it’s kind of annoying when you’re on the edge of your seat for recruiting news and posters insert soft arse puns
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 30, 2022, 03:23:41 PM
That would be Sikario

Edited to add that it’s kind of annoying when you’re on the edge of your seat for recruiting news and posters insert soft arse puns
Like, 'there is a video game about a store with players with this name.   Kario Mart. '
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 30, 2022, 03:25:31 PM
In today's paper, Danny Hurley said UConn would hit the transfer portal hard.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 30, 2022, 03:51:33 PM
Not sure if I missed this earlier in the thread, but looks like we can knock one of the big targets off our list.

Utah Valley transfer Fardaws Aimaq is focusing on the following five schools in his recruitment:

Arkansas
Kentucky
Iowa
Texas Tech
Washington

Aimaq averaged 18.9PPG and 13.6RPG in 21-22. One of the best transfers available.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 30, 2022, 03:52:35 PM
Ben Carlson from UW has lost his desire to play basketball entered the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2022, 04:07:28 PM
Ben Carlson from UW has lost his desire to play basketball entered the transfer portal.

Poor kid couldn’t keep up academically
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 30, 2022, 04:11:36 PM
Jaylen Gainey off the board to FSU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2022, 04:12:09 PM
Jaylen Gainey off the board to FSU.

Purple wienie
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 30, 2022, 04:28:52 PM
Norchad Omier in the portal. 6'7" PF was a monster rebounder for Arkansas State.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2022, 04:29:21 PM
Not sure if I missed this earlier in the thread, but looks like we can knock one of the big targets off our list.

Utah Valley transfer Fardaws Aimaq is focusing on the following five schools in his recruitment:

Arkansas
Kentucky
Iowa
Texas Tech
Washington

Aimaq averaged 18.9PPG and 13.6RPG in 21-22. One of the best transfers available.

One of those things is not like the others
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 30, 2022, 04:35:54 PM
One of those things is not like the others

He's from Vancouver. Washington would allow him to play in front of family.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 30, 2022, 04:46:50 PM
Norchad Omier in the portal. 6'7" PF was a monster rebounder for Arkansas State.

Yes please.  Although Im guessing he'll have his pick of just about anywhere.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 30, 2022, 04:57:02 PM
Hot start Shaka
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 30, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
Hot start Shaka

Oh please...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 30, 2022, 04:58:54 PM
Hot start Shaka

This ain’t even the start
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 30, 2022, 05:03:26 PM
I believe Paint Touches mentioned our staff has reached out to 7 recruits in transfer portal as of today. 1 has just committed elsewhere and we didn't make a final list for the other. Its not a great start and I think most fans would agree. Not saying the sky is falling, but the immediate defensiveness is funny to see
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 30, 2022, 05:19:03 PM
It is very early in the free agency market, and I am not going to get too rattled because we lost a couple of guys. To be honest, aside from Morsell, I had not heard of Kolek, OMax or Kur prior to their signing and I think overall that was a pretty good group of players he brought in last year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 30, 2022, 05:21:43 PM
It is very early in the free agency market, and I am not going to get too rattled because we lost a couple of guys. To be honest, aside from Morsell, I had not heard of Kolek, OMax or Kur prior to their signing and I think overall that was a pretty good group of players he brought in last year.

I think we are undervaluing the portal moves last year.

Kolek, Morsell, OMax, Kuath were all starters that were thrown on a new roster with tons of Freshman and inexperienced guys that hadn't played much or any college hoops.

Getting to the dance was unexpected and quite the accomplishment.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 30, 2022, 05:33:47 PM
Golden

I think Shaka did a helluva job in the portal last year and expect similar results this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 30, 2022, 05:51:24 PM
Golden

I think Shaka did a helluva job in the portal last year and expect similar results this year.

I think so too.  There will just be less movement because the roster is already complete for the most part whereas last year was a complete restart.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 30, 2022, 06:01:26 PM
Shaka did A-OK last year, especially considering the timing of his hire. Going forward, he needs to do better, both in the portal and H.S. recruiting, and I think he will. Assuming Lewis leaves, we need more talent at every single position.

Shaka's got another year or two of goodwill; hopefully he never sees the infamous hot seat. That's why he gets the big bucks!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: EasyDuzIt on March 30, 2022, 06:22:21 PM
Shaka did A-OK last year, especially considering the timing of his hire. Going forward, he needs to do better, both in the portal and H.S. recruiting, and I think he will. Assuming Lewis leaves, we need more talent at every single position.

Shaka's got another year or two of goodwill; hopefully he never sees the infamous hot seat. That's why he gets the big bucks!

Shaka did well in the portal we don't need 5 new starters we have plenty of talent going forward most of our guys were playing there first year in the big east...just need to add a couple pieces and keep building on what we got
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 30, 2022, 07:29:27 PM
Marquette, Colorado, UW-Green Bay, and UW-Milwaukee are among those who have reached out to Hillsdale transfer Patrick Cartier.

Two-time D2 All-American. Averaged 22 points, 6 rebounds, and shot 66.0 percent last season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2022, 08:02:05 PM
Marquette, Colorado, UW-Green Bay, and UW-Milwaukee are among those who have reached out to Hillsdale transfer Patrick Cartier.

Two-time D2 All-American. Averaged 22 points, 6 rebounds, and shot 66.0 percent last season.

Hillsdale eh? Any of those schools would be quite the culture shift for him
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DoctorV on March 30, 2022, 08:03:54 PM
How much worse is DII talent than Juco?
If you can’t get a DI stud just dip into the DII pool eh?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2022, 08:08:53 PM
How much worse is DII talent than Juco?
If you can’t get a DI stud just dip into the DII pool eh?

Duncan Robinson moved up from Division III to play at Michigan.  Worked out for Creighton bringing in Ryan Hawkins from DII.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 30, 2022, 08:20:12 PM
Hillsdale eh? Any of those schools would be quite the culture shift for him
100%. I have a niece at Colorado. Definite eye-opener
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on March 30, 2022, 08:22:52 PM
Duncan Robinson moved up from Division III to play at Michigan.  Worked out for Creighton bringing in Ryan Hawkins from DII.

Also Max Strus.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 30, 2022, 08:30:38 PM
Marquette, Colorado, UW-Green Bay, and UW-Milwaukee are among those who have reached out to Hillsdale transfer Patrick Cartier.

Two-time D2 All-American. Averaged 22 points, 6 rebounds, and shot 66.0 percent last season.

Went to Brookfield East.  He's at least somewhat familiar with Milwaukee culture.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 30, 2022, 09:06:03 PM
Florida, Auburn, Marquette, Ole Miss, Georgetown and Texas A&M have all reached out about NC State transfer  forward  Manny Bates.

Looks like he missed last season with a shoulder injury. Was a beast the year prior. Will be heavily sought after
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2022, 09:20:49 PM
100%. I have a niece at Colorado. Definite eye-opener

Colorado would be the biggest culture shock of the group for sure....but after going to Hillsdale almost any other college would come with culture shock
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 30, 2022, 11:07:52 PM
Shaka did well in the portal we don't need 5 new starters we have plenty of talent going forward most of our guys were playing there first year in the big east...just need to add a couple pieces and keep building on what we got

I have allowed many times that maybe the talent upgrade will come from within ... but we do need that upgrade, whether from within, from H.S. recruits or from transfers.

For example, Kolek was an OK Big East PG. We need better. He might be the "better" because he improves during the offseason ... or maybe somebody better will beat him out. Lather, rinse, repeat at every position.

But we do need better, and more of it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 30, 2022, 11:52:36 PM
Duncan Robinson moved up from Division III to play at Michigan.  Worked out for Creighton bringing in Ryan Hawkins from DII.

Jimmy Butlers least favorite Heat member is from a d2 to d1 transition
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: EasyDuzIt on March 31, 2022, 12:20:54 AM
I have allowed many times that maybe the talent upgrade will come from within ... but we do need that upgrade, whether from within, from H.S. recruits or from transfers.

For example, Kolek was an OK Big East PG. We need better. He might be the "better" because he improves during the offseason ... or maybe somebody better will beat him out. Lather, rinse, repeat at every position.

But we do need better, and more of it.

Ya absolutely I'm including our 3 committed players as well when i say we have good talent...Kolek will shoot better next year ...kam,stevie, joplin, Oso, O-max our only going to get better....we need some height and if justin leaves another forward or 2 to offset that loss
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DoctorV on March 31, 2022, 09:14:17 AM
Ya absolutely I'm including our 3 committed players as well when i say we have good talent...Kolek will shoot better next year ...kam,stevie, joplin, Oso, O-max our only going to get better....we need some height and if justin leaves another forward or 2 to offset that loss

The need for rebounding has been well documented for good reason.

However, there will be a much bigger glaring need if Justin leaves- scoring.
MU would be losing its top 2 scorers.

The team would then need to insert either one new 15-20ppg scorer, since I don’t see one on the roster for next year, OR find three to four guys to average in the 8-14ppg range.

Im counting on Kam to be a double digit scorer this upcoming season.
One could argue that’s the end of the list in full confidence.
However, I hope/expect OMax and David Joplin to be in this range. Might be one year early for Jop, but I think Shaka needs a huge step up from him in the scoring department in year two, which means his defense improves enough to stay on the court.
It might also be a bit optimistic for OMax, but many are much higher on him than I am so we will see.

Then there’s Kolek, Stevie, or an incoming pg. If Shaka managed to get double digit scoring from a single pg (or even combined from 2, say 7-8ppg from Kolek at the 1/2 and 10+ ppg combined from Stevie and Jones) then we might have our 4 scorers in the low double digit range.

Wildcards would be the bigs- Oso or a surprised find in Gold- or an incoming player.
I think Shaka realizes this need for scoring if Justin leaves, since it seems that outside of rebounding bigs he has also been sniffing around some pretty able scoring bigs.
Hopefully he gets one or two he wants
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on March 31, 2022, 09:26:41 AM
"The team would then need to insert either one new 15-20ppg scorer, since I don’t see one on the roster for next year, OR find three to four guys to average in the 8-14ppg rang"


Too soon for "this team will routinely score in the 50s" prognostication by our experts?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 09:35:54 AM
UNI transfer Noah Carter (@noah3carter) has a final 5 of Virginia Tech, Missouri, Marquette, Arkansas and Florida, he told @Stadium.

The 6-foot-6 sophomore averaged 15 points and 4.1 rebounds this past season and is one of the most coveted transfers out there.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mubb3434 on March 31, 2022, 09:37:36 AM
Per Jeff Goodman, UNI transfer Noah Carter has us in his final 5 (along with VT, Mizzou, Florida, and ARK). 6'6 Sophomore averages 15 ppg and 4.1 rebounds.

Doesn't turn the ball over much, gets to the FT line and hits at a 79% clip.28% 3p% shooter.

This looks like a J-Lew replacement.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 31, 2022, 09:44:18 AM
UNI transfer Noah Carter (@noah3carter) has a final 5 of Virginia Tech, Missouri, Marquette, Arkansas and Florida, he told @Stadium.

The 6-foot-6 sophomore averaged 15 points and 4.1 rebounds this past season and is one of the most coveted transfers out there.

Sign me up for him and Omier or Bates and let’s cook
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 09:49:09 AM
Per Jeff Goodman, UNI transfer Noah Carter has us in his final 5 (along with VT, Mizzou, Florida, and ARK). 6'6 Sophomore averages 15 ppg and 4.1 rebounds.

Doesn't turn the ball over much, gets to the FT line and hits at a 79% clip.28% 3p% shooter.

This looks like a J-Lew replacement.

I still think Justin stays one more year, but that makes for an interesting discussion..

Does a coach recruit expecting a player to be gone, or the opposite?  You'd think a coach would recruit under the impression that their fringe guys are leaving, but at the same time that might be difficult as well.

Tough job these coaches have.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 31, 2022, 09:56:47 AM
Carter would be a very nice pickup.  Looking at his splits, he very much appeared to make a jump over the last month of the season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 31, 2022, 09:58:28 AM
Carter makes sense if Justin is gone.  If Justin stays, that feels like a really weird fit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2022, 10:08:17 AM
UNI transfer Noah Carter (@noah3carter) has a final 5 of Virginia Tech, Missouri, Marquette, Arkansas and Florida, he told @Stadium.

The 6-foot-6 sophomore averaged 15 points and 4.1 rebounds this past season and is one of the most coveted transfers out there.

(https://c.tenor.com/NUqO3kNe3ucAAAAC/danny-de-vito-no.gif)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 31, 2022, 10:14:45 AM
If Jop had a hard time getting to the conditioning level Shaka wants, I worry about Carter in that regard.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Boone on March 31, 2022, 10:18:45 AM
Pass on Carter
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 31, 2022, 10:31:19 AM
Ya absolutely I'm including our 3 committed players as well when i say we have good talent...Kolek will shoot better next year ...kam,stevie, joplin, Oso, O-max our only going to get better....we need some height and if justin leaves another forward or 2 to offset that loss

I also think those you mentioned will improve. But I don't know that they will, or by how much. We need more very good players.

I'm wish I could be as certain as you are that Kolek's shooting will improve. Obviously, I hope it does. If he doesn't add scoring to his game, his minutes figure to decrease significantly; I'm sure he and Shaka already have an improvement plan in place on what he needs to do: go right more; float game; stop-and-pop game; hit open 3s. All easier said than done.

The need for rebounding has been well documented for good reason.

However, there will be a much bigger glaring need if Justin leaves- scoring.
MU would be losing its top 2 scorers.

Yes, on 3/31/22, scoring for 2022-23 is lacking. Shaka's paid the big bucks to get that figured out before next fall.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 10:32:46 AM
(https://c.tenor.com/NUqO3kNe3ucAAAAC/danny-de-vito-no.gif)

I think Carter is solid, but the way he plays is like an undersized center that rebounds because of circumstance not because he wants to.

Not quite sure on the fit.

Ideally the roster without be

Kolek/Jones/Ellis
Jones/Mitchell/Ross
Lewis/Joplin
OMax/Gold/Itejere
Transfer/Ighodaro
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 31, 2022, 10:48:51 AM
Noah Carter
@noah3carter
Yessir God is good🙏🏼🤴🏽
Quote Tweet
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
 · 1h
UNI transfer Noah Carter (@noah3carter) has a final 5 of Virginia Tech, Missouri, Marquette, Arkansas and Florida, he told @Stadium.

The 6-foot-6 sophomore averaged 15 points and 4.1 rebounds this past season and is one of the most coveted transfers out there.
9:29 AM · Mar 31, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/noah3carter/status/1509538397538471942?cxt=HHwWjMC-gZfL-vIpAAAA

Mizzou fans seem to be rather fired up about him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 31, 2022, 10:53:48 AM
This is where the extra year of eligibility due to covid messes things up.

Noah Carter has played 3 years, but has 2 years of eligibility left.  I'd actually like Carter better if he only had one season of eligibility due to MU's need for 2023 scholarship spots.

If Lewis turns pro, Carter would be fine as a year stop gap (assuming MU couldn't land a better player, such as Taylor Funk).  Then replace Carter in 2023.  As a two year player, I'm hesitant. 

If three players are leaving, that changes things.  Then Carter makes a little more sense.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2022, 10:58:05 AM
I think Carter is solid, but the way he plays is like an undersized center that rebounds because of circumstance not because he wants to.

Not quite sure on the fit.

I don't like the fit. He's a mediocre rebounder and poor shooter who gets most of his points in post-ups, which we rarely use. He isn't going to play the 5 here and he doesn't fit the mold as a Justin replacement. Our biggest need is a true big to replace Kuath, someone like Bates, Wague, even Omier or Wrightsil if we want to go undersized would work. Next up is a wing that can score in transition and hit the three, with guys like Cartier and Funk better fits than Carter, IMO.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2022, 11:09:11 AM
I don't like the fit. He's a mediocre rebounder and poor shooter who gets most of his points in post-ups, which we rarely use. He isn't going to play the 5 here and he doesn't fit the mold as a Justin replacement. Our biggest need is a true big to replace Kuath, someone like Bates, Wague, even Omier or Wrightsil if we want to go undersized would work. Next up is a wing that can score in transition and hit the three, with guys like Cartier and Funk better fits than Carter, IMO.

Don’t like the fit either
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mubb3434 on March 31, 2022, 11:10:59 AM
This is where the extra year of eligibility due to covid messes things up.

Noah Carter has played 3 years, but has 2 years of eligibility left.  I'd actually like Carter better if he only had one season of eligibility due to MU's need for 2023 scholarship spots.

If Lewis turns pro, Carter would be fine as a year stop gap (assuming MU couldn't land a better player, such as Taylor Funk).  Then replace Carter in 2023.  As a two year player, I'm hesitant. 

If three players are leaving, that changes things.  Then Carter makes a little more sense.

I disagree. 2 years is better than 1. I don't think you would be able to get a freshman with Carter's productivity.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 11:14:37 AM
I don't like the fit. He's a mediocre rebounder and poor shooter who gets most of his points in post-ups, which we rarely use. He isn't going to play the 5 here and he doesn't fit the mold as a Justin replacement. Our biggest need is a true big to replace Kuath, someone like Bates, Wague, even Omier or Wrightsil if we want to go undersized would work. Next up is a wing that can score in transition and hit the three, with guys like Cartier and Funk better fits than Carter, IMO.

I still think Justin will stay for 1 more, but if he doesn't the best replacement for him is already on the roster in Jop.

I agree a force down low is the biggest need.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 31, 2022, 11:33:06 AM
I'd prefer no Carter
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 31, 2022, 11:37:31 AM
Carter has also gotten less efficient as his usage has increased, which isn't really a great sign. 

However the one thing that interests me is that both Florida and Arkansas are finalists, and both are pretty pacey teams.  And Golden and Musselman are pretty big advanced stats guys too.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 31, 2022, 11:43:43 AM
Carter has also gotten less efficient as his usage has increased, which isn't really a great sign. 

However the one thing that interests me is that both Florida and Arkansas are finalists, and both are pretty pacey teams.  And Golden and Musselman are pretty big advanced stats guys too.

Plus his usage should go down moving up a level.

I'd be good with him joining.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2022, 11:49:38 AM
Carter has also gotten less efficient as his usage has increased, which isn't really a great sign. 

However the one thing that interests me is that both Florida and Arkansas are finalists, and both are pretty pacey teams.  And Golden and Musselman are pretty big advanced stats guys too.

The other programs involved is the one encouraging thing. Maybe they are all seeing something the stats don't bear out. But man...a 6'6" post-up scorer in the Big East that doesn't shoot or rebound particularly well seems like an odd fit for this offense.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 31, 2022, 11:55:46 AM
Syracuse's Frank Aneselem in the portal. Three double digit rebound outings last year. Good shot blocker.

Honestly don't know much about him and still looks kinda raw, but has a lot of good tools and looks like a Shaka big.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2022, 12:00:11 PM
Syracuse's Frank Aneselem in the portal. Three double digit rebound outings last year. Good shot blocker.

Honestly don't know much about him and still looks kinda raw, but has a lot of good tools and looks like a Shaka big.

If I remember right, Marquette at least reached out the last time. Shaka and Texas definitely recruited him. Could see him being a fit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mubb3434 on March 31, 2022, 12:01:55 PM
Here's a big one. Kansas State's Nijel Pack in the portal. 17.4 ppg and 43.6% from 3. 1st Team Big 12 player.

Blue Bloods will be all over this one.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on March 31, 2022, 12:03:47 PM
Noah Carter
@noah3carter
Yessir God is good🙏🏼🤴🏽
Quote Tweet
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
 · 1h
UNI transfer Noah Carter (@noah3carter) has a final 5 of Virginia Tech, Missouri, Marquette, Arkansas and Florida, he told @Stadium.

The 6-foot-6 sophomore averaged 15 points and 4.1 rebounds this past season and is one of the most coveted transfers out there.
9:29 AM · Mar 31, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/noah3carter/status/1509538397538471942?cxt=HHwWjMC-gZfL-vIpAAAA

Mizzou fans seem to be rather fired up about him.
If you're an optimist you might say it's unclear where he fits in at Arkansas, Mizzou and Florida going through rebuilds, Dubuque to Milwaukee isn't a bad drive.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 12:07:33 PM
Maryland C Qudus Wahab is entering the transfer portal.

This is the kind of good target for Marquette in my eyes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 31, 2022, 12:15:42 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 31, 2022, 12:27:22 PM
The other programs involved is the one encouraging thing. Maybe they are all seeing something the stats don't bear out. But man...a 6'6" post-up scorer in the Big East that doesn't shoot or rebound particularly well seems like an odd fit for this offense.

Carter is in the 92nd percentile on SQ. Was a clear top 2 offensive option for what i personally think is the best offense in the MVC.
Our offense needs more help than our defense for sure. Oso, Kolek, and Mitchell were statistically the three best defenders on the team last year. (Morsell was considered 5th, but always had tough matchups.)

Its not for sure the "best option". But i think its one of the better attainable options.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 31, 2022, 12:32:01 PM
Maryland C Qudus Wahab is entering the transfer portal.

This is the kind of good target for Marquette in my eyes.

Can he transfer to Big East?  He was previously at GTown.  He may also need to sit out now. 

I know BE used to have a rule that you cannot transfer to another BE school, even with a non-BS stop in between.  Not sure if that has changed recently.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 31, 2022, 12:34:14 PM
Can he transfer to Big East?  He was previously at GTown.  He may also need to sit out now. 

I know BE used to have a rule that you cannot transfer to another BE school, even with a non-BS stop in between.  Not sure if that has changed recently.

You can now transfer within the Big East without losing a year of eligibility.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on March 31, 2022, 12:49:35 PM
Dubuque to Milwaukee isn't a bad drive.

I can vouch for that. Dubuque is Ms. Dgies' hometown and I'd driven that trip a few times over the years :-)

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 31, 2022, 12:54:17 PM
If you're an optimist you might say it's unclear where he fits in at Arkansas, Mizzou and Florida going through rebuilds, Dubuque to Milwaukee isn't a bad drive.

Arkansas isn't going through a rebuild.  Its just a reload.

They return 2 of their 5 top scorers.  Their top rebounder and their second leading assist man.   Then you add 3 McD AAs, all in the top 20, 3 more top 100 guys, and they just got Brazille for Missouri who everyone is super high on and got approached by UK and U of I when transferring.

And thats assuming Notae and Toney leave, they both have another year.  Either of them return and Arkansas is probably top 10 preseason.  I'd argue they'll likely be top 20 preseason regardless
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2022, 01:00:22 PM
Wags

Correct, Arkansas is not going through a rebuild and will not be as long Musselman is on the job.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on March 31, 2022, 01:03:09 PM
Arkansas isn't going through a rebuild.  Its just a reload.

They return 2 of their 5 top scorers.  Their top rebounder and their second leading assist man.   Then you add 3 McD AAs, all in the top 20, 3 more top 100 guys, and they just got Brazille for Missouri who everyone is super high on and got approached by UK and U of I when transferring.

And thats assuming Notae and Toney leave, they both have another year.  Either of them return and Arkansas is probably top 10 preseason.  I'd argue they'll likely be top 20 preseason regardless
I didn't mean to say they're going through a rebuild - bad grammar. All the things you listed are what I meant by why it might be unclear where he fits in at Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 31, 2022, 01:06:24 PM
I didn't mean to say they're going through a rebuild - bad grammar. All the things you listed are what I meant by why it might be unclear where he fits in at Arkansas.

Gotcha.  "Arkansas, Mizzou and Florida going through rebuilds" looked like you were grouping Ark with Mizzou and UF.  All good.  But otherwise I agree.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 31, 2022, 01:10:42 PM
I can vouch for that. Dubuque is Ms. Dgies' hometown and I'd driven that trip a few times over the years :-)
father D, I agree.  (I have a client in Dubuque. Not a bad town!)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 01:11:25 PM
Maybe take Manny Bates off the list?

"NC State transfer Manny Bates tells us he has heard from:

Ohio State
Arkansas
Illinois
Wake Forest
Georgia Tech
Miami
Notre Dame
Auburn
LSU
Virginia Tech
Iowa State
Georgetown
Houston
Texas Tech
South Carolina"

Per HoopScoop Media on Twitter
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 31, 2022, 01:21:39 PM
I still think Justin stays one more year, but that makes for an interesting discussion..

Does a coach recruit expecting a player to be gone, or the opposite?  You'd think a coach would recruit under the impression that their fringe guys are leaving, but at the same time that might be difficult as well.

Tough job these coaches have.

I would say that Shaka has had numerous conversations with Justin about his plans, Whatever he decides, it will not come as a surprise to Shaka.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 31, 2022, 01:29:10 PM
Carter is in the 92nd percentile on SQ. Was a clear top 2 offensive option for what i personally think is the best offense in the MVC.
Our offense needs more help than our defense for sure. Oso, Kolek, and Mitchell were statistically the three best defenders on the team last year. (Morsell was considered 5th, but always had tough matchups.)

Its not for sure the "best option". But i think its one of the better attainable options.

If Oso & Kolek were the best defenders on our team last year, we need more help on defense than offense.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 31, 2022, 01:40:15 PM
I would say that Shaka has had numerous conversations with Justin about his plans, Whatever he decides, it will not come as a surprise to Shaka.
in other words, Shaka won’t be shocked?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2022, 01:46:18 PM
Carter is in the 92nd percentile on SQ. Was a clear top 2 offensive option for what i personally think is the best offense in the MVC.
Our offense needs more help than our defense for sure. Oso, Kolek, and Mitchell were statistically the three best defenders on the team last year. (Morsell was considered 5th, but always had tough matchups.)

Its not for sure the "best option". But i think its one of the better attainable options.

Again, it's not him being efficient in the Northern Iowa offense that concerns me. It's that a guy who gets the vast majority of his points through post-ups against MVC defenders is unlikely to thrive in an offense that rarely uses post-ups, and when it does, is doing so against bigger, stronger, more difficult matchups.

We need someone that can stretch the floor, create for himself, and get out in transition. That isn't what Carter is good at. I'm not saying he couldn't be a good player in the right system, but this ain't it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 31, 2022, 02:53:50 PM
Taylor Funk to Utah St.


https://twitter.com/taylor_swishh/status/1509615197362835465?t=qd8UzIIXyrdTmEHmF_q6QA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/taylor_swishh/status/1509615197362835465?t=qd8UzIIXyrdTmEHmF_q6QA&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 31, 2022, 02:55:30 PM
in other words, Shaka won’t be shocked?

or Khan-ed.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 02:56:25 PM
Taylor Funk committed to Utah St.

That's another off the board.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 31, 2022, 03:00:19 PM
So Shaka is not bringin' tha Funk. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2022, 03:25:54 PM
7'0" LSU big man Efton Reid is in the portal. Former 5-star recruit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 31, 2022, 03:29:54 PM
Not a transfer, but as expected, Johnny Davis is taking his talents to the NBA:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33640802/wisconsin-badgers-johnny-davis-no-9-prospect-espn-100-enter-nba-draft
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 31, 2022, 03:36:31 PM
Clocks tickin ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: EasyDuzIt on March 31, 2022, 03:43:12 PM
watched some Noah Carter film and gotta say id definitely take him...hes thick, so even though he's 6'6 he can bang with bigger players....think he's kind of that undersized 5 when you wanna go small that would be a tough matchup for other teams bigs to guard....can also play the 4, he's pretty athletic for being a bigger body and he BOXES OUT which i saw numerous times from him and thought that was a huge problem this year...his shot looks better then 28% from 3 so hopefully that can improve but i would definitely take him especially if Justin is gone
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Big Papi on March 31, 2022, 03:54:34 PM
watched some Noah Carter film and gotta say id definitely take him...hes thick, so even though he's 6'6 he can bang with bigger players....think he's kind of that undersized 5 when you wanna go small that would be a tough matchup for other teams bigs to guard....can also play the 4, he's pretty athletic for being a bigger body and he BOXES OUT which i saw numerous times from him and thought that was a huge problem this year...his shot looks better then 28% from 3 so hopefully that can improve but i would definitely take him especially if Justin is gone

Is a Noah Carter type with a better 3-point shot the kind of player that Nova typically has its 4 in their 5 out offense?  Can he defend and rebound as a 4?  Can he improve his 3 point shooting to a 35% clip?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 03:54:52 PM
7'0" LSU big man Efton Reid is in the portal. Former 5-star recruit.

What's our top 5 options Brew?  Anybody out there that can clean the glass?  Or are there burners of the bounce?  Ty.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 31, 2022, 04:06:51 PM
Nevada transfer Warren Washington (@5warrenw) tells me he has heard from:

Arizona state
Saint Mary’s
Marquette
SDSU
Butler
Arkansas
Washington...

7 ft. junior who cleans up on the glass. In fact, better rebounding numbers than Bates who many are pining for here. Could be one to watch.

2 Years of Eligibility Remaining

11 PPG | 7 RPG | 1 BPG | 61 FG% | 73 FT%

Can watch some highlights here:

https://twitter.com/TransferTapes/status/1506678661319217163?s=20&t=uFZcORJUmRBJTLo3or8OBw
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mubb3434 on March 31, 2022, 04:10:31 PM
Nevada transfer Warren Washington (@5warrenw) tells me he has heard from:

Arizona state
Saint Mary’s
Marquette
SDSU
Butler
Arkansas
Washington...

7 ft. junior who cleans up on the glass.

Kenpom ranks:

OR%:104
DR%: 214
Blocks: 95
Offensive rating: 143

Also a 73% free throw shooter and made 61% of this baskets on 148 attempts. Sign. Me. Up.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 04:14:15 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical) with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 31, 2022, 04:19:06 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.

Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) $500,000,000 in cash
2) Time travel
3) World peace
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: genious expert on March 31, 2022, 04:19:57 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.

lol
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 04:21:12 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) $500,000,000 in cash
2) Time travel
3) World peace

I'm just throwing it out there Hound.  I know it's not easy but goals should be high.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2022, 04:22:09 PM
What's our top 5 options Brew?  Anybody out there that can clean the glass?  Or are there burners of the bounce?  Ty.

Based on who we've reached out to, my personal opinion (for whatever that's worth) would be...

1) Manny Bates, NC State: He's perfect. Big time rim protector like Kur, great as a finisher in pick and roll, and cleans the offensive glass. You have to hope he's healthy (missed all but one minute of last year with a shoulder injury) but he's ideal.

2) Warren Washington, Nevada: Originally a high-major (Oregon State) recruit that consistently posted double-digit scoring and is a good rebounder and rim protector. Similar frame to Kur, I'd prefer someone a bit more stout.

3) Patrick Cartier, Hillsdale (D2): He scores in every way we would want him to, has 6'8" length, and is a competent rebounder. We've seen plenty of D2 transfers up succeed, he looks worth the risk. This is my favorite potential "Justin replacement" so far.

4) Zach Wrightsil, Loyola (D2): Interesting player. Good in transition, pick and roll, and isolation, so offensive probably projects as a Morsell replacement. Also a great rebounder. Not a good shooter, though.

5) Alex Tchikou, Alabama: He fits the mold, but didn't get much run with the Tide. Is he leaving because there he's welded behind Bediako on the depth chart or because he couldn't do what they hoped he would? If it's the former, might be a good get. If the latter, then I'm a bit nervous.

Others to watch: Norchad Omier, KJ Williams, Qudus Wahab, Johni Broome (if he enters the portal)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 31, 2022, 04:22:21 PM
I'm just throwing it out there Hound.  I know it's not easy but goals should be high.

As it stands we have 1 open scholarship lol
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on March 31, 2022, 04:23:34 PM
Warren Washington is an absolute menace. He should be option 1/2/3 with Bates a close 4th.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 31, 2022, 04:23:42 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical) with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.
Which 4 guys are you cutting?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: avid1010 on March 31, 2022, 04:33:46 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) $500,000,000 in cash
2) Time travel
3) World peace
Eh...kind of feel like you are undervaluing world peace. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 04:35:55 PM
Which 4 guys are you cutting?

I was just thinking the next few years.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 04:36:38 PM
Based on who we've reached out to, my personal opinion (for whatever that's worth) would be...

1) Manny Bates, NC State: He's perfect. Big time rim protector like Kur, great as a finisher in pick and roll, and cleans the offensive glass. You have to hope he's healthy (missed all but one minute of last year with a shoulder injury) but he's ideal.

2) Warren Washington, Nevada: Originally a high-major (Oregon State) recruit that consistently posted double-digit scoring and is a good rebounder and rim protector. Similar frame to Kur, I'd prefer someone a bit more stout.

3) Patrick Cartier, Hillsdale (D2): He scores in every way we would want him to, has 6'8" length, and is a competent rebounder. We've seen plenty of D2 transfers up succeed, he looks worth the risk. This is my favorite potential "Justin replacement" so far.

4) Zach Wrightsil, Loyola (D2): Interesting player. Good in transition, pick and roll, and isolation, so offensive probably projects as a Morsell replacement. Also a great rebounder. Not a good shooter, though.

5) Alex Tchikou, Alabama: He fits the mold, but didn't get much run with the Tide. Is he leaving because there he's welded behind Bediako on the depth chart or because he couldn't do what they hoped he would? If it's the former, might be a good get. If the latter, then I'm a bit nervous.

Others to watch: Norchad Omier, KJ Williams, Qudus Wahab, Johni Broome (if he enters the portal)

Thx brew.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on March 31, 2022, 04:39:02 PM
Not a transfer, but as expected, Johnny Davis is taking his talents to the NBA:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33640802/wisconsin-badgers-johnny-davis-no-9-prospect-espn-100-enter-nba-draft
RED gonna stank next season
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 04:43:18 PM
I'm high on Norchad Omier.

He looks really solid.  Grabbed 12+ boards a game and has a decent midrange game. Slightly undersized but so is Nova who does just fine.

He's 6'7", but a big bodied 6'7" similar to Justin.  The difference is Omier operates from the elbows into the rim, where Justin extends his game beyond the 3 point line. He's who I want on this roster but there are plenty of solid options available.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on March 31, 2022, 04:54:23 PM
I'm high on Norchad Omier.

He looks really solid.  Grabbed 12+ boards a game and has a decent midrange game. Slightly undersized but so is Nova who does just fine.

He's 6'7", but a big bodied 6'7" similar to Justin.  The difference is Omier operates from the elbows into the rim, where Justin extends his game beyond the 3 point line. He's who I want on this roster but there are plenty of solid options available.

He would be my first choice as a Justin replacement given his proven ability + years of eligibility. Unfortunately he would also be near the top of the list for most schools in the country.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 31, 2022, 04:55:27 PM
When anyone says "like Kur" I throw up a little in my mouth.  Kur was terrible.  We need to strive much higher than him.  I know the term is used more based on style of play, but that guy was really just not a good basketball player at all. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 31, 2022, 05:03:07 PM
RED gonna stank next season

We say this every year...and yet...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on March 31, 2022, 05:11:50 PM
When anyone says "like Kur" I throw up a little in my mouth.  Kur was terrible.  We need to strive much higher than him.  I know the term is used more based on style of play, but that guy was really just not a good basketball player at all.
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He was a decent stop gab, but in today’s game he does not fit.  Hard to believe your that tall, and can not rebound.  Maybe the weakest hands I have seen, then add Oso and you had the worst 2 centers in the Big East.  I do not think it will be that hard to find a center that is better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: avid1010 on March 31, 2022, 06:03:34 PM
Really happy Kur joined the team at Shaka's request/offer and was a great representative of MU.  He had some good games for us, and we wouldn't have had the success we had this year without him.  One can certainly look for different traits in a player...but bashing Kur lacks class.  I met him a few times...safe to say he wouldn't act that way to others.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 31, 2022, 06:08:00 PM
Really happy Kur joined the team at Shaka's request/offer and was a great representative of MU.  He had some good games for us, and we wouldn't have had the success we had this year without him.  One can certainly look for different traits in a player...but bashing Kur lacks class.  I met him a few times...safe to say he wouldn't act that way to others.

Hah this is a basketball message board. I am not bashing Kur personally. He by all means seems like a great kid. Wish him well. But he’s not a starting big east caliber center and MU should aim higher if they want to improve their basketball product.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on March 31, 2022, 06:10:25 PM
RED gonna stank next season
Not this again.
No…No….No. that was Bo, Gard sucks.
Yep. I hate the unnatural carnal knowledgeibg Badgers……but I think I dislike reading that they are going to really suck from scoopers year after year even more…..and guess what? They don’t.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: muguru on March 31, 2022, 06:12:49 PM

Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
·
2m
Texas' Courtney Ramey has entered the 2022 NBA Draft while maintaining his eligibility, per his Twitter page. Ramey will also enter the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: shoothoops on March 31, 2022, 06:15:40 PM
Courtney Ramey has entered the transfer portal while also declaring for the NBA draft. Exploring his options.

https://twitter.com/rameybasketball/status/1509668273843015681?s=21&t=l1qhIumHL9lTNaTqKtpUrw
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on March 31, 2022, 06:31:37 PM
Hah this is a basketball message board. I am not bashing Kur personally. He by all means seems like a great kid. Wish him well. But he’s not a starting big east caliber center and MU should aim higher if they want to improve their basketball product.
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A great kid which he is does not mean he is a great baller!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on March 31, 2022, 06:34:50 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1509674453114003456?s=20&t=qIPnNcMXz8lGIduSy-IyKQ

Zach Wrightsal

Early top 6. MU, VaTech,  TCU, Loyola, Howard, and North Texas
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 31, 2022, 06:38:46 PM
Ramey makes a TON of sense here to replace Morsell.  Essentially Morsell with the feel to run a pick and roll and create on offense.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BM1090 on March 31, 2022, 06:47:49 PM
We say this every year...and yet...

I am hesitant to say they’ll stink until I see who they get in the portal. But aside from Hepburn their returning guys are question marks at best.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: avid1010 on March 31, 2022, 06:49:36 PM
Hah this is a basketball message board. I am not bashing Kur personally. He by all means seems like a great kid. Wish him well. But he’s not a starting big east caliber center and MU should aim higher if they want to improve their basketball product.
Like I said...I thought your comments lacked class.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 06:51:32 PM
Ramey makes a TON of sense here to replace Morsell.  Essentially Morsell with the feel to run a pick and roll and create on offense.

Ramey would be an excellent addition for sure.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: avid1010 on March 31, 2022, 06:51:35 PM
Hah this is a basketball message board. I am not bashing Kur personally. He by all means seems like a great kid. Wish him well. But he’s not a starting big east caliber center and MU should aim higher if they want to improve their basketball product.
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A great kid which he is does not mean he is a great baller!

The key word is "kid."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2022, 07:01:00 PM
Already convinced Ramey is the Morsell replacement.  Connections with the whole staff.

Followed by Kam, Oso, Jop among others.  Shaka will definitely be in on that action.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on March 31, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
I am hesitant to say they’ll stink until I see who they get in the portal. But aside from Hepburn their returning guys are question marks at best.

Yea, it was a one man team that was fairly pedestrian when Davis was hurt or off, as we saw down the stretch.

Now that one man is gone.  Plus your second leading scorer and senior leader/glue guy.  So unless they get a big transfer, you have a decent guard in Hepburn then Wahl and Crowl?  Ben Carlson had a lot of potential once upon a time but he’s leaving now so no sleeper jump from him.

If they get more Vogt/Neath caliber transfers, could be an interesting year in Madison
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 31, 2022, 07:29:22 PM
Really happy Kur joined the team at Shaka's request/offer and was a great representative of MU.  He had some good games for us, and we wouldn't have had the success we had this year without him.  One can certainly look for different traits in a player...but bashing Kur lacks class.  I met him a few times...safe to say he wouldn't act that way to others.

I won't slam Kuath. He did what he was brought here to do. That one Seton Hall game where he stuffed Obiagu a bazillion times in the first few minutes really set the tone for that game, and he had several other nice shot-blocking games for us. So thanks for those, and I'm glad he was on the team.

That being said, we need more from our 5 ... and I'm hopeful that Shaka will successfully recruit that player or players.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on March 31, 2022, 07:32:26 PM
Kuath is the type of Center Shaka wants.  He was also just the best Shaka could probably find last spring to fill that spot.  Now we just need to find a better version of him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 31, 2022, 08:09:32 PM
We say this every year...and yet...

Agreed.  They will be good again. Unfortunately. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on March 31, 2022, 08:26:08 PM
Would love Ramey at MU.

Kuath would be a very good 5 on a team with 4 other threats to score the ball offensively around him and with guards who pitch in to team rebounding. Unfortunately MU didn’t have those things around him, so his weaknesses were magnified.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 31, 2022, 08:38:29 PM
Agreed.  They will be good again. Unfortunately.

Well, until the Round of 32, anyhow.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 31, 2022, 10:09:44 PM
Would love Ramey at MU.

Kuath would be a very good 5 on a team with 4 other threats to score the ball offensively around him and with guards who pitch in to team rebounding. Unfortunately MU didn’t have those things around him, so his weaknesses were magnified.

Reasonable take, wades.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: EasyDuzIt on March 31, 2022, 10:35:05 PM
When anyone says "like Kur" I throw up a little in my mouth.  Kur was terrible.  We need to strive much higher than him.  I know the term is used more based on style of play, but that guy was really just not a good basketball player at all.

Ya Kur seemed like a nice guy, but he showed why he only was a backup for Oklahoma and can't get more then 20 min a night...no strength, terrible rebounder for his size, not much scoring besides dunks and layups...hes fine for a backup young guy that develops but as a 5th year senior if thats what you have starting at 5 makes it harder to win games
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: EasyDuzIt on March 31, 2022, 10:42:45 PM
Is a Noah Carter type with a better 3-point shot the kind of player that Nova typically has its 4 in their 5 out offense?  Can he defend and rebound as a 4?  Can he improve his 3 point shooting to a 35% clip?

His shot looks nice, but idk if he can get to 35%..coming up in competition the game might be a little faster and who knows if he improves that...His defense is a big question mark as the videos i watched weren't showing him guarding one on one...his offense was nice and if you watch his game against BYU on Youtube i think you can see the skill level...he is kinda that undersized Nova guy that can make plays

But the more i see some of the players were getting in on and better guys keep coming available i would have to say he's a little farther down on my list of guys i would want...there some really good bigs and forwards that were gonna have a chance at
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 31, 2022, 11:40:03 PM
Agree with Brew and others that I'm struggling to see the fit with Noah Carter. That being said, Shaka has earned some leash from me when it comes to recruiting transfers. I think it is fair to say that Morsell, Kolek, and O-Max all significantly outperformed what most would have expected from them based on past performances and Kur at least met expectations. A year ago, no one would have guessed that spot up shooting Kolek would be turned into a pick and roll maestro. Maybe the staff don't want Carter for what he has been but what he could be.

Despite that, sign me up for Warren Washington. Personally my top target of who we've offered so far.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TedBaxter on April 01, 2022, 06:35:13 AM
Despite that, sign me up for Warren Washington. Personally my top target of who we've offered so far.

Two of the lesser publicized big guys, Warren Washington and Clifton Moore (Lasalle), intrigue me as much as anyone in the portal at the spot Marquette needs right now.  Do you feel Marquette has a shot with Washington?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 06:47:37 AM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical) with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uVUSBi3u0E

There is this classic.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 07:03:16 AM
You guys remember the last guy that came to MU with a frame similar to Noah Carter?

Jose Perez

IMO, they're the same dude.  Round hard nosed guys that will beat up on mid major competition, but their game doesn't translate well to high-major competition.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 01, 2022, 07:14:43 AM
I won't slam Kuath. He did what he was brought here to do. That one Seton Hall game where he stuffed Obiagu a bazillion times in the first few minutes really set the tone for that game, and he had several other nice shot-blocking games for us. So thanks for those, and I'm glad he was on the team.

That being said, we need more from our 5 ... and I'm hopeful that Shaka will successfully recruit that player or players.

Nice summary 82.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 01, 2022, 07:16:02 AM
You guys remember the last guy that came to MU with a frame similar to Noah Carter?

Jose Perez

IMO, they're the same dude.  Round hard nosed guys that will beat up on mid major competition, but their game doesn't translate well to high-major competition.

With zero knowledge of the guy and only based on the descriptions on scoop,  I thought the same thing.  This sounds like Jose Perez.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mubb3434 on April 01, 2022, 08:45:13 AM
Per Jon Rothstein, KSU's Nigel Pack is receiving interest from:

Gonzaga, Arizona, Purdue, Xavier, Tennessee, Miami, Ohio State, NC State and....Marquette

Arguably the best player in the portal!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 01, 2022, 08:45:54 AM
With zero knowledge of the guy and only based on the descriptions on scoop,  I thought the same thing.  This sounds like Jose Perez.

Yea, scoop is just wrong. Jose Perez's O ratings 104.6, 94.7,84, 101. His ShotQuality percentile's 32nd, 24th, and 55th.

Noah Carter's O ratings 125.1, 110.5, 111. His ShotQuality percentile 97th, 89th, and 92nd.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 01, 2022, 08:48:46 AM
Nijel Pack was born in Oconomowoc, thus if he doesn’t transfer here it’s a massive failure
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 08:58:26 AM
Yea, scoop is just wrong. Jose Perez's O ratings 104.6, 94.7,84, 101. His ShotQuality percentile's 32nd, 24th, and 55th.

Noah Carter's O ratings 125.1, 110.5, 111. His ShotQuality percentile 97th, 89th, and 92nd.

They're the same type of player, not necessarily the same quality.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2022, 09:00:34 AM
Nijel Pack was born in Oconomowoc, thus if he doesn’t transfer here it’s a massive failure

Need to avoid the green weeeeenie on this one, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 01, 2022, 09:27:48 AM
Yea, scoop is just wrong.

That actually never happens.  The collective is always right.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 01, 2022, 09:32:04 AM
That actually never happens.  The collective is always right.

Except when they say who they think the SOTG is.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2022, 09:45:19 AM
Yea, scoop is just wrong. Jose Perez's O ratings 104.6, 94.7,84, 101. His ShotQuality percentile's 32nd, 24th, and 55th.

Noah Carter's O ratings 125.1, 110.5, 111. His ShotQuality percentile 97th, 89th, and 92nd.

I'd also add that the competition that Carter has faced at Northern Iowa is a step above the competition Perez was facing at Gardner-Webb.

That being said, I don't think we ever got to see the best of Perez. COVID knocked him on his arse during the summer and I don't think he was in playing shape by the time the season started.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TedBaxter on April 01, 2022, 09:53:35 AM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical) with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.

#2 may be Sean Jones.  #3 may be Ben Gold and #5 may be Chase Ross, alhthough not sure he's the 40" vertical guy.  Maybe mid 30's.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 10:05:50 AM
I'd also add that the competition that Carter has faced at Northern Iowa is a step above the competition Perez was facing at Gardner-Webb.

That being said, I don't think we ever got to see the best of Perez. COVID knocked him on his arse during the summer and I don't think he was in playing shape by the time the season started.

Eh, maybe.  Perez averaged 21 a game in the MAAC.  IMO, a very comparable conference with the likes of Iona and St. Peter's.

But I absolutely agree with you that Jose never had a real fair shake at MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2022, 10:32:35 AM
Eh, maybe.  Perez averaged 21 a game in the MAAC.  IMO, a very comparable conference with the likes of Iona and St. Peter's.

I know he transferred to the MAAC for his 5th year, but he came from Gardner Webb. Gardner Webb is in the Big South....which KenPom ranked as the 30th (out of 32) strongest conference that year. The top teams were #140 Winthrop, #186 Radford, and #218 Gardner Webb.

Comparatively, Carter put up his numbers in the Missouri Valley, which KenPom ranks as the 11th strongest conference and has teams that include #29 Loyola Chicago, #70 Missouri State, #84 Drake, #91 Northern Iowa, #96 Bradley, and #125 Southern Illinois.

Even if you compare Carter to Perez' 5th year in the MAAC, the MAAC is the 16th strongest conference (And there' a huge gap between #11 and #12) and the top teams are #89 Iona, #102 St. Peter's, and #158 Monmouth.

I'd argue that Perez transferred from and transferred to a low major conference. Carter is transferring from a true mid-major conference. I'm not sold on him either from a fit perspective, but I'd expect him to be significantly better than Perez.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2022, 10:47:11 AM
Nijel Pack is maybe the best player in the portal.

1st Team All Big 12.  The problem is that he is 6'0" and and PG.  He scores like an off guard but at 6'0" itd be tough to slide him over to the 2 and have success defensviely.

Would be an incredible addition but the PG room is pretty full with Kolek/Jones/Mitchell/Ellis
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2022, 11:11:54 AM
Pack absolutely fits the system and would instantly become our second best player (best if Lewis goes pro). But PG doesn't seem to be a need of ours at the moment. If we were to land Pack we would still need to land a big which means that someone would need to be outSmarted. Lewis could go pro, but then I would argue we would need a big AND a Lewis replacement which still leaves us over 1.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 01, 2022, 11:18:29 AM
New 4 they reached out too. Ali Ali from Akron. Decent wing.

Georgia, Marquette, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, NC State, Georgia Tech, Florida, Virginia Tech, Saint Louis, Memphis, Arkansas, Mizzou, USC, Northwestern, Loyola, Virginia, and SMU

Seems like a long list.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2022, 11:21:46 AM
Give me a backcourt of Ramey and Pack.  Yes please.

Then drop the bag for Lewis to return and let's roll.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: EasyDuzIt on April 01, 2022, 11:22:15 AM
I know he transferred to the MAAC for his 5th year, but he came from Gardner Webb. Gardner Webb is in the Big South....which KenPom ranked as the 30th (out of 32) strongest conference that year. The top teams were #140 Winthrop, #186 Radford, and #218 Gardner Webb.

Comparatively, Carter put up his numbers in the Missouri Valley, which KenPom ranks as the 11th strongest conference and has teams that include #29 Loyola Chicago, #70 Missouri State, #84 Drake, #91 Northern Iowa, #96 Bradley, and #125 Southern Illinois.

Even if you compare Carter to Perez' 5th year in the MAAC, the MAAC is the 16th strongest conference (And there' a huge gap between #11 and #12) and the top teams are #89 Iona, #102 St. Peter's, and #158 Monmouth.

I'd argue that Perez transferred from and transferred to a low major conference. Carter is transferring from a true mid-major conference. I'm not sold on him either from a fit perspective, but I'd expect him to be significantly better than Perez.

Ya exactly the Carter to Perez comparisons are just bad and lazy because both guys are a little thicker...Perez couldn't jump over an encyclopedia while Carter throw down with ease...and like you said the competition they've gone against before transferring isn't even close
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 01, 2022, 11:22:44 AM
Pack absolutely fits the system and would instantly become our second best player (best if Lewis goes pro). But PG doesn't seem to be a need of ours at the moment. If we were to land Pack we would still need to land a big which means that someone would need to be outSmarted. Lewis could go pro, but then I would argue we would need a big AND a Lewis replacement which still leaves us over 1.
Getting Pack would be huge. PG might not be a priority, but if he becomes your best player, you have to add him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2022, 11:29:04 AM
New 4 they reached out too. Ali Ali from Akron. Decent wing.

Georgia, Marquette, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, NC State, Georgia Tech, Florida, Virginia Tech, Saint Louis, Memphis, Arkansas, Mizzou, USC, Northwestern, Loyola, Virginia, and SMU

Seems like a long list.

2nd Team All-MAC this season. Pure stretch 4. Shot 41% from deep on over 100 attempts. Skinny as a twig and no help on the boards. He did erupt a bit at the end of the season, averaging 17 points a game on 45% 3P shooting in the last 9 games in the MAC. Only played two games against a high major this season. 17 points on 4/7 3P shooting against Ohio State in the season opener...and 5 points on 2/10 shooting against UCLA in the NCAAT.

Wouldn't be my top pick but 6'8" guys who shoot 41% from 3 don't grow on trees.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on April 01, 2022, 11:30:08 AM
Ramey or Pack.  Get one of them and that would be huge.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2022, 11:32:02 AM
Pack absolutely fits the system and would instantly become our second best player (best if Lewis goes pro). But PG doesn't seem to be a need of ours at the moment. If we were to land Pack we would still need to land a big which means that someone would need to be outSmarted. Lewis could go pro, but then I would argue we would need a big AND a Lewis replacement which still leaves us over 1.

I'm trying to figure out how it could work. No way we can accommodate both Ramey and Pack.  I'm assuming Justin is here, they'd have to send Ellis to the portal because we NEED a 2nd center. Maybe move Kolek back to the 2 and focus on shooting and run Pack/Jones at the 1?

Pack/S. Jones
Kolek/K. Jones/Mitchell
Lewis/Joplin/Ross
Prosper/Gold/Itejere
Ighodaro/Transfer
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 01, 2022, 11:33:32 AM
Getting Pack would be huge. PG might not be a priority, but if he becomes your best player, you have to add him.
And wouldn't Pack play SG? If Lewis decides to stay and Shaka lands Pack, the outlook for next season is drastically better. I'm not counting on either, however.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 01, 2022, 11:35:00 AM
I'm trying to figure out how it could work. No way we can accommodate both Ramey and Pack.  I'm assuming Justin is here, they'd have to send Ellis to the portal because we NEED a 2nd center. Maybe move Kolek back to the 2 and focus on shooting and run Pack/Jones at the 1?

Pack/S. Jones
Kolek/K. Jones/Mitchell
Lewis/Joplin/Ross
Prosper/Gold/Itejere
Ighodaro/Transfer

The liklihood of Pack and Ramey both wanting to come and Lewis staying is basically 0.

But in that scenario. You make room however necessary.

I like the young bucks we got, but with portal ball things are always reloadable. You play to win now. Pack/Ramey/Lewis would be an elite trio.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 01, 2022, 11:36:43 AM
Give me a backcourt of Ramey and Pack.  Yes please.

Then drop the bag for Lewis to return and let's roll.

"Lets upgrade our deepest positions by recruiting over some of our most promising talent and disregard our true need in the frontcourt"

Im all for upgrading the talent but I think people are going to be sorely disappointed if we're already trying to figure out how to fit in the best player in the portal into our squad. Think back to what we landed last year in the portal. Ended up being good players but none in the top 50. I think that's a much more realistic barometer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Ya exactly the Carter to Perez comparisons are just bad and lazy because both guys are a little thicker...Perez couldn't jump over an encyclopedia while Carter throw down with ease...and like you said the competition they've gone against before transferring isn't even close

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build whatever narrative you'd like
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on April 01, 2022, 11:51:10 AM
If MU somehow landed both Ramey and Pack, they’d lose a few unexpected guys (like Mitchell) I think. Probably be better next season, but then in 2023-2024 we would need to fill more holes.

I think you try and put your best team on the floor each and every year. Building a team over multiple years seems too risky nowadays.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2022, 11:54:12 AM
If MU somehow landed both Ramey and Pack, they’d lose a few unexpected guys (like Mitchell) I think.

I wouldn't want to lose 3 years of Stevie Mitchell for 1 year of Ramey. Just my opinion. 

However, I think given the connection and need on the roster, Ramey fits better than Pack at this point in time.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2022, 12:14:57 PM
"Lets upgrade our deepest positions by recruiting over some of our most promising talent and disregard our true need in the frontcourt"

Im all for upgrading the talent but I think people are going to be sorely disappointed if we're already trying to figure out how to fit in the best player in the portal into our squad. Think back to what we landed last year in the portal. Ended up being good players but none in the top 50. I think that's a much more realistic barometer.

Our backcourt got completely owned in an 8/9 matchup. We need a ton better play out of our backcourt next year. If it comes from improvement from our current players, awesome. It’ll take monumental improvement, but it’s possible.

But right now I’d take guys that have proven it at a high major level already if they want to come to MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 01, 2022, 12:19:51 PM
I'd take Bates or Washington first.  Then one of Pack or Ramey, since I assume MU will have at least 2 openings.

Either Pack or Ramey can play next to Kolek.  I'm in favor of playing two PG together as long as one is 6-3, like Kolek.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 01, 2022, 01:02:52 PM
I'm trying to figure out how it could work. No way we can accommodate both Ramey and Pack.  I'm assuming Justin is here, they'd have to send Ellis to the portal because we NEED a 2nd center. Maybe move Kolek back to the 2 and focus on shooting and run Pack/Jones at the 1?

Pack/S. Jones
Kolek/K. Jones/Mitchell
Lewis/Joplin/Ross
Prosper/Gold/Itejere
Ighodaro/Transfer
is Ellis a write-off? If Pack in, I don’t loose sleep if Kolek portaled
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2022, 01:15:25 PM
is Ellis a write-off? If Pack in, I don’t loose sleep if Kolek portaled

I dont think Ellis is a write off at this moment. If they are serious about adding Pack or Hayes or any other good guard I think he'd be first on the list though.

The odds of the staff letting Kolek (who led the Big East in assists) the opportunity to leave seems low.  Remember he was the A10 Freshman of the Year for his scoring, that just wasn't his role this year.  He could still play the 2 as he did at George Mason.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: shoothoops on April 01, 2022, 01:29:30 PM
LSU is now down to zero scholarship players left on its roster from this past season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 01, 2022, 01:44:39 PM
LSU is now down to zero scholarship players left on its roster from this past season.
Turn's out Baton Rouge isn't a big draw when your players aren't getting 25-50K+ under the rug.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
The odds of the staff letting Kolek (who led the Big East in assists) the opportunity to leave seems low.  Remember he was the A10 Freshman of the Year for his scoring, that just wasn't his role this year.  He could still play the 2 as he did at George Mason.

I like Tyler, but "for his scoring" sounds like he was a 20ppg guy. Kolek averaged 11ppg on 40% shooting (36% from 3) at the next level down. Stepping up a level with Marquette, opponents dared him to shoot, especially as the season progressed, and all of his scoring/shooting-related numbers fell significantly. Unless he improves tremendously, I wouldn't be thrilled asking him to be a 2 in the Big East, given that he'd also be tasked with defending opponents' talented 2s.

You might be right about Shaka not giving him the opportunity to leave, but the difference between Kolek and Ramey or Pack is huge.

Gonna be an interesting next several weeks.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 01, 2022, 02:03:02 PM
From butlerguy03 on the holyland site-last part of a long post:

"Luko is a gigantic loss, but it's not like they were winning, so losing anyone is ok I guess. It would hurt more in a Murray State situation."

I cannot find anything to support that he is in the portal.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 01, 2022, 02:08:51 PM
From butlerguy03 on the holyland site-last part of a long post:

"Luko is a gigantic loss, but it's not like they were winning, so losing anyone is ok I guess. It would hurt more in a Murray State situation."

I cannot find anything to support this.


https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1509958866062221321?t=vw1DUQgmW1NN0EptMNAgVg&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1509958866062221321?t=vw1DUQgmW1NN0EptMNAgVg&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 01, 2022, 02:15:32 PM

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1509958866062221321?t=vw1DUQgmW1NN0EptMNAgVg&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1509958866062221321?t=vw1DUQgmW1NN0EptMNAgVg&s=19)

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PBRme on April 01, 2022, 02:23:54 PM
I like Tyler, but "for his scoring" sounds like he was a 20ppg guy. Kolek averaged 11ppg on 40% shooting (36% from 3) at the next level down. Stepping up a level with Marquette, opponents dared him to shoot, especially as the season progressed, and all of his scoring/shooting-related numbers fell significantly. Unless he improves tremendously, I wouldn't be thrilled asking him to be a 2 in the Big East, given that he'd also be tasked with defending opponents' talented 2s.

You might be right about Shaka not giving him the opportunity to leave, but the difference between Kolek and Ramey or Pack is huge.

Gonna be an interesting next several weeks.

I'd be happy if Kolek would make his layups
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rgoode57 on April 01, 2022, 03:42:14 PM
The transfer portal has to be a bitch for coaches to work. In Shaka's case, he has, I think, just one open spot right now or two spots if Justin leaves. Obviously, he needs a rebounding, rim protecting 5 who can score a bit. But, if Justin leaves, then you either have to find another scoring, rebounding wing or trust that Joplin and Omax can fill that role. But, by the time you get a decision from Justin, the guys you may have wanted to pursue in the portal may be committed elsewhere. Or, you may think you are covering your needs and then suddenly two guys like Joplin and Ellis decide they are going into the portal and you have one or two openings you were not planning on. Of course, every coach is in this same position. The transfer portal seems like a chaotic mess.

Someone mentioned in another thread that Shaka might have to encourage Ellis to enter the portal. I don't see that happening at all. Shaka recruited him to Texas and then got Ellis to come with him to MU. I don't think he is going to recruit over him now. Shaka does not impress me as that kind of guy. The pressure to win is huge, but I think Shaka places more emphasis on relationships than that.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 01, 2022, 04:13:58 PM
Ellis comes from a tough upbringing. I would bet he thinks of Shaka as a father figure.  He might see some action next year but more likely as a junior.  In saying that, he probably will be gone next week
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 01, 2022, 04:14:53 PM
My gut says the team remains intact (Justin included), Shaka has two recruits incoming, hence he’s looking for a big. Plus, the kid that rs’d might be good, and possibly Ellis takes a step up. If this is the case, outlook is ok.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2022, 04:16:28 PM
Always Be Recruiting. Period. If it ends up leading to some roster "chaos," oh well.

As for Simas Lukosius ... he showed some flashes this season, and I think he's gonna be a real good player. It will be interesting to see where he ends up.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 01, 2022, 06:14:48 PM
Just a wild guess - Once Fresno State wins whatever championship they’re playing in, Orlando Robinson will become the most sought after transfer in the portal. He will have a Tshiebwe type impact for a blue blood.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 01, 2022, 06:29:44 PM
Just a wild guess - Once Fresno State wins whatever championship they’re playing in, Orlando Robinson will become the most sought after transfer in the portal. He will have a Tshiebwe type impact for a blue blood.

Are we sure he’s staying in college? I thought he was a pretty consensus early to mid 2nd rounder?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 01, 2022, 06:30:57 PM
Are we sure he’s staying in college? I thought he was a pretty consensus early to mid 2nd rounder?

No clue - selfishly I’d love to see him at a big time program next season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2022, 09:06:40 PM
My gut says the team remains intact (Justin included), Shaka has two recruits incoming, hence he’s looking for a big. Plus, the kid that rs’d might be good, and possibly Ellis takes a step up. If this is the case, outlook is ok.

3 recruits not 2
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 01, 2022, 09:19:23 PM
3 recruits not 2
my bad. Forgot about the kid from wherever he’s from a long way from Milwaukee.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on April 03, 2022, 12:07:50 AM

Grant Basile’s Wright State teammate is going to Ohio State.

Wright State transfer Tanner Holden has committed to Ohio State, per his Instagram page.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 04, 2022, 10:51:43 AM
Morehead State C Johni Broome has entered the portal. Marquette should be banging on that door immediately. On par with Fardaws Aimaq in terms of impact mid-major bigs.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 04, 2022, 11:05:08 AM
Im feeling decent about Marquette's positioning with Warren Washington. It could change but i think he is one of the favorites.

Washington and Oso could also play a little together too.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 04, 2022, 12:04:10 PM
Morehead State C Johni Broome has entered the portal. Marquette should be banging on that door immediately. On par with Fardaws Aimaq in terms of impact mid-major bigs.

This would be great. He could really clean up under the basket.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on April 04, 2022, 12:06:22 PM
Morehead State C Johni Broome has entered the portal. Marquette should be banging on that door immediately. On par with Fardaws Aimaq in terms of impact mid-major bigs.

3 years of eligibility remaining it looks like.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 04, 2022, 12:11:01 PM
This would be great. He could really clean up under the basket.
Hopefully he can help us sweep Villanova again.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 04, 2022, 12:17:01 PM
Watched Kansas/Texas highlights from earlier this year to see what Ramey looked like against the best competition.

He played 39 of the 40 minutes holding Ochai Agbaji to just 4 made field goals in Texas win over Kansas.

In an OT loss AT Kansas Ramey played 40 minutes in a 7 point OT loss holding Agbaji to 1-11 from the field!!! Ramey also scored 18 points that day.

5 made field goals in almost 80 minutes for Agbaji guarded by Ramey.  Seems ideal for this team.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 04, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
Hopefully he can help us sweep Villanova again.

I think it would depend on witch Johni we get.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 04, 2022, 12:53:18 PM
Watched Kansas/Texas highlights from earlier this year to see what Ramey looked like against the best competition.

He played 39 of the 40 minutes holding Ochai Agbaji to just 4 made field goals in Texas win over Kansas.

In an OT loss AT Kansas Ramey played 40 minutes in a 7 point OT loss holding Agbaji to 1-11 from the field!!! Ramey also scored 18 points that day.

5 made field goals in almost 80 minutes for Agbaji guarded by Ramey.  Seems ideal for this team.

He would be an upgrade on all of our guards, true - but why would we waste our (currently) only open scholarship on a guard when we have zero Big East-level big men on our team and plenty viable candidates in the portal?

If Lewis goes pro and we have a few transfers out, I'm all for bringing in someone like Ramey, but it just doesn't make sense as things stand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 04, 2022, 12:55:29 PM
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1511038689819992064?cxt=HHwWgIC9ydfrpPgpAAAA

Kamari McGee, former Racine St. Catherine's standout, has entered the transfer portal. He had a strong frosh season at Green Bay, averaging 11.6 ppg and 2.8 rpg.

Not sure we'd have much interest (especially since we have other higher priorities), but he's local.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 04, 2022, 01:26:15 PM
The Will Ryan tenure has just been a sh*tshow at UWGB.  Not sure how much of that blame falls on him versus the bad circumstances he inherited though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 04, 2022, 01:40:01 PM
The Will Ryan tenure has just been a sh*tshow at UWGB.  Not sure how much of that blame falls on him versus the bad circumstances he inherited though.

UWGB fans assured me the tide had turned and they will be very good next year
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: willie warrior on April 04, 2022, 02:07:34 PM
Hopefully he can help us sweep Villanova again.
That and not getting our asses handed to us by Carolina would be awesome
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 04, 2022, 02:24:23 PM
That and not getting our asses handed to us by Carolina would be awesome

Thanks, Wally
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on April 04, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1511038689819992064?cxt=HHwWgIC9ydfrpPgpAAAA

Kamari McGee, former Racine St. Catherine's standout, has entered the transfer portal. He had a strong frosh season at Green Bay, averaging 11.6 ppg and 2.8 rpg.

Not sure we'd have much interest (especially since we have other higher priorities), but he's local.
I'd be jumping off the UWGB ship too, if I was him.

Having seen Kam play many times, I know he would fit Shaka's defensive scheme.  Stevie Mitchell is the best comp, though Kam's not as quick or as athletic.  He's also a great kid.  One of the top students in his class and a huge heart. 

My guess is he ends up at a mid-major.  Maybe A-10 level.  I wish Kam all the best.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 04, 2022, 03:16:46 PM
He would be an upgrade on all of our guards, true - but why would we waste our (currently) only open scholarship on a guard when we have zero Big East-level big men on our team and plenty viable candidates in the portal?

If Lewis goes pro and we have a few transfers out, I'm all for bringing in someone like Ramey, but it just doesn't make sense as things stand.

Because you can create open spots as Shaka showed last year.  If you can get better you do it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 04, 2022, 03:22:15 PM
Because you can create open spots as Shaka showed last year.  If you can get better you do it.


It's quite different opening spots when they're your players.  And I really don't know how many spots Shaka actually "opened" last year anyway.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2022, 03:24:35 PM
He would be an upgrade on all of our guards, true - but why would we waste our (currently) only open scholarship on a guard when we have zero Big East-level big men on our team and plenty viable candidates in the portal?

If Lewis goes pro and we have a few transfers out, I'm all for bringing in someone like Ramey, but it just doesn't make sense as things stand.

It wouldn't be a waste to bring in a potential All-American. We need upgrades at every position.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 04, 2022, 03:39:34 PM
That and not getting our asses handed to us by Carolina would be awesome
Dude. His last name is Broome, get it?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 04, 2022, 03:40:40 PM
Dude. His last name is Broome, get it?

Jokes are always funnier when you have to explain them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 04, 2022, 03:49:56 PM

It's quite different opening spots when they're your players.  And I really don't know how many spots Shaka actually "opened" last year anyway.


Kolek/Jones/Jones/Mitchell/Ross/Ellis

There's alot of talent in there, but a veteran guard that can get a bucket when needed and guard the other teams best player is missing from this group.  Guards win in March and this group is good, but missing 1 piece.  Not saying it has to be Ramey but he would be great.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 04, 2022, 03:58:37 PM
Jokes are always funnier when you have to explain them.
More along the line of know your audience, and Scoop Snoop started it
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 04, 2022, 04:01:46 PM
More along the line of know your audience, and Scoop Snoop started it

Clarissa making fun of someone else for explaining it all 😂😂😂
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 04, 2022, 04:20:26 PM
Clarissa making fun of someone else for explaining it all 😂😂😂


<hat tip>
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2022, 04:28:09 PM
Broome definitely could get a handle on a starting spot for us. He'd have to brush up on Shaka's offense, though.

That and not getting our asses handed to us by Carolina would be awesome.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 04, 2022, 04:33:30 PM

<hat tip>

Lol just giving you a hard time.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mubb3434 on April 04, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Broome definitely could get a handle on a starting spot for us. He'd have to brush up on Shaka's offense, though.

That and not getting our asses handed to us by Carolina would be awesome.

Borzello listed about a dozen teams that Broome said has reached out  to him. MU not listed.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 04, 2022, 05:27:55 PM
Borzello listed about a dozen teams that Broome said has reached out  to him. MU not listed.

Looks like all the scoop efforts have immediately be swept under the rug.  This really bristles me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 04, 2022, 05:54:09 PM
dust pan
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 04, 2022, 06:04:21 PM
It wouldn't be a waste to bring in a potential All-American. We need upgrades at every position.

Ramey a potential All-American? Lol what are you smoking?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 04, 2022, 06:10:25 PM
Borzello listed about a dozen teams that Broome said has reached out  to him. MU not listed.

Wouldn't read too much into that. There's no doubt we reach out to him given the other players we've reached out to. Whether he actually considers us is a whole different ballgame
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2022, 10:14:47 PM
Ramey a potential All-American? Lol what are you smoking?

Yeah, I admit that was a little overly exuberant. He'd be a material upgrade on both ends of the court IMHO, but I'll trust Shaka on this. We'll see!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 05, 2022, 10:30:44 AM
The mass exodus of peacocks has begun.

Halloway may take Banks. Doubt any others follow him there. SHU would be terrible if they went Peacocks 2.0 as their roster.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 05, 2022, 10:38:13 AM
Reality check coming through….


https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/status/1511366670798966787?s=21&t=mTHhWOlrQFklDieFzpvhjw

The entire Kentucky coaching staff has now been in contact with Morehead State transfer Johni Broome, he tells @247SportsPortal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 05, 2022, 10:52:14 AM
The mass exodus of peacocks has begun.

Halloway may take Banks. Doubt any others follow him there. SHU would be terrible if they went Peacocks 2.0 as their roster.

Maybe we should be in on this before they fly the coop. Convince them Marquette is their best place to roost. Pluck the other teams recruiting them!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on April 05, 2022, 11:41:38 AM
Butch's son entered the portal.

https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1511336497819103246?s=20
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 05, 2022, 12:57:54 PM
MU could use a guy like this

@jeffborzello
VMI center Jake Stephens plans to enter the transfer portal, he told ESPN. Will be a graduate transfer. First-team All-SoCon selection. 19.6 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 3.3 APG — 6-foot-11 and shoots 49% from 3. Will be a highly sought-after transfer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 05, 2022, 01:28:08 PM
MU could use a guy like this

@jeffborzello
VMI center Jake Stephens plans to enter the transfer portal, he told ESPN. Will be a graduate transfer. First-team All-SoCon selection. 19.6 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 3.3 APG — 6-foot-11 and shoots 49% from 3. Will be a highly sought-after transfer.

Nods head feverishly.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 05, 2022, 01:39:16 PM
Nods head feverishly.

Really big kid with numbers that look like they'd fit.  Also has a great looking shot.

For a guy almost 7'0" tall he plays all below the rim though.  Not much for athleticism and doesn't seem to have quick feet that Shaka typically looks for. Would maybe be a solid pairing with Ighodaro though.  Would likely be a loaded offensive duo, but fairly weak on the defensive end.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 05, 2022, 01:55:27 PM
MU could use a guy like this

@jeffborzello
VMI center Jake Stephens plans to enter the transfer portal, he told ESPN. Will be a graduate transfer. First-team All-SoCon selection. 19.6 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 3.3 APG — 6-foot-11 and shoots 49% from 3. Will be a highly sought-after transfer.

Perhaps most important...he played over 80% of available minutes each of the past two years for a team that was top-100 in tempo both years. So he should be able to handle a system that plays with the kind of pace we run. Really hope MU reaches out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 05, 2022, 02:25:19 PM
MU could use a guy like this

@jeffborzello
VMI center Jake Stephens plans to enter the transfer portal, he told ESPN. Will be a graduate transfer. First-team All-SoCon selection. 19.6 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 3.3 APG — 6-foot-11 and shoots 49% from 3. Will be a highly sought-after transfer.

Two thumbs up from me
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 05, 2022, 02:31:14 PM
Plus, Stephens went to Musselman High School.

Eric Musselman is the coach at Arkansas, and Arkansas is the No. 1 ranked team in the 2022-23 Way Too Early poll.

Ipso fatso, we'll be No. 1 if we get him.

I mean, that's just PHIL 1000.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 05, 2022, 03:17:12 PM
@JustinByerly
Ole Miss transfer Luis Rodriguez tells me he has heard from Georgia, Oregon, Washington St, Nevada, UNLV, Marquette, NC State, Kansas State, Pitt, Indiana, Rutgers, Louisville, West Virginia and Texas.

5th year senior. 6'6" wing, averaged 6.6 ppg, 5,5 rpg, shot 30.4% from three, with a 42.9 eFG%.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 05, 2022, 03:20:04 PM
@JustinByerly
Ole Miss transfer Luis Rodriguez tells me he has heard from Georgia, Oregon, Washington St, Nevada, UNLV, Marquette, NC State, Kansas State, Pitt, Indiana, Rutgers, Louisville, West Virginia and Texas.

5th year senior. 6'6" wing, averaged 6.6 ppg, 5,5 rpg, shot 30.4% from three, with a 42.9 eFG%.

He's a switch army knife. A very dull, ineffective switch army knife, but a switch army knife nonetheless.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 05, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
@JustinByerly
Ole Miss transfer Luis Rodriguez tells me he has heard from Georgia, Oregon, Washington St, Nevada, UNLV, Marquette, NC State, Kansas State, Pitt, Indiana, Rutgers, Louisville, West Virginia and Texas.

5th year senior. 6'6" wing, averaged 6.6 ppg, 5,5 rpg, shot 30.4% from three, with a 42.9 eFG%.

He looks like an excellent 7th man. We have a roster full of guys that can develop into that, I really hope they look elsewhere. Ideally, we should play no more than 7-8 guys and our bench should be developed from the underclassmen. These scholarships should either go to long-term projects (Kolek, O-Max) or immediate impact starters (Morsell).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 05, 2022, 07:22:47 PM
He looks like an excellent 7th man. We have a roster full of guys that can develop into that, I really hope they look elsewhere. Ideally, we should play no more than 7-8 guys and our bench should be developed from the underclassmen. These scholarships should either go to long-term projects (Kolek, O-Max) or immediate impact starters (Morsell).

Agreed this guy looks totally underwhelming
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Equalizer on April 06, 2022, 12:30:04 PM
Update on Noah Carter:

https://247sports.com/Article/College-Basketball-transfer-portal-Arkansas-Missouri-Florida-Marquette-Virginia-Tech-Noah-Carter-185777415/ (https://247sports.com/Article/College-Basketball-transfer-portal-Arkansas-Missouri-Florida-Marquette-Virginia-Tech-Noah-Carter-185777415/)

"Marquette: They made it because Shaka Smart. I really love the way he coaches and I love the culture around his team as well. It's also not too far from my house up there in Milwaukee and they have a really good team.”
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 06, 2022, 05:25:02 PM
@jakeweingarten
Memphis transfer Landers Nolley II will take an official visit to Texas A&M this weekend, sources told @stockrisers. In addition, next weekend, he will officially visit NC State.
Nolley II is averaging 13 points and 4.6 rebounds over his three seasons (V-Tech, Memphis).
Nolley II has heard from Iona, SMU, Marquette, Arkansas, Texas A&M, NC State, South Carolina, Tulane, BYU, JMU, Pittsburgh, and plenty more this entering the portal this weekend, source told @stockrisers.


Nolley originally committed to the Buzzard at VaTech, so one would think A&M is a favorite.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 06, 2022, 08:59:11 PM
Plus, Stephens went to Musselman High School.

Eric Musselman is the coach at Arkansas, and Arkansas is the No. 1 ranked team in the 2022-23 Way Too Early poll.

Ipso fatso, we'll be No. 1 if we get him.

I mean, that's just PHIL 1000.
I think I saw Mr. Ipso Fatso at a Badger game. He was wearing red.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2022, 09:12:23 AM
Texas transfer Courtney Ramey is receiving interest from the following programs, per his father:

UConn
Missouri
Marquette
Kentucky
Villanova
Western Kentucky
Ohio
Murray State
DePaul
Gonzaga
Cal
Maryland
UNLV
TCU
West Virginia
Oklahoma State
Wisconsin
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 07, 2022, 09:36:41 AM
This thread shows why using the transfer portal as a key piece to build your roster is going to be very hard for Marquette to do.  If you're a mid or low major player putting up huge numbers, every program in the country will be after you.  If you're a high major player putting up role player numbers, every program in the country still is after you (Theo John is an example of this).  If you're a Theo John type of player and you're fine not being the star of a team, you can go play at a blue blood.  If you're a Jamal Cain type of player and want to be featured more, you'll just transfer down a couple levels and be a star in your league.

Even with the clear connection of Shaka, it's going to be really hard to land Ramey when programs like Kentucky, Villanova, and Gonzaga are knocking on his door.

Just a tough place to try to build your roster.  Think for Marquette it has to be used more to fill a position of need with a role guy than try to get your best players, at least if you want to compete in the Big East.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 07, 2022, 09:37:31 AM
Texas transfer Courtney Ramey is receiving interest from the following programs, per his father:

UConn
Missouri
Marquette
Kentucky
Villanova
Western Kentucky
Ohio
Murray State
DePaul
Gonzaga
Cal
Maryland
UNLV
TCU
West Virginia
Oklahoma State
Wisconsin
We are closer to Villanova than DePaul on this list
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2022, 09:40:39 AM
We are closer to Villanova than DePaul on this list

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/5gw0VWGbgNm8w/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2022, 09:42:10 AM
This thread shows why using the transfer portal as a key piece to build your roster is going to be very hard for Marquette to do.  If you're a mid or low major player putting up huge numbers, every program in the country will be after you.  If you're a high major player putting up role player numbers, every program in the country still is after you (Theo John is an example of this).  If you're a Theo John type of player and you're fine not being the star of a team, you can go play at a blue blood.  If you're a Jamal Cain type of player and want to be featured more, you'll just transfer down a couple levels and be a star in your league.

Even with the clear connection of Shaka, it's going to be really hard to land Ramey when programs like Kentucky, Villanova, and Gonzaga are knocking on his door.

Just a tough place to try to build your roster.  Think for Marquette it has to be used more to fill a position of need with a role guy than try to get your best players, at least if you want to compete in the Big East.

Marquette had one of the better portals in all of college basketball last year with Morsell, Kuath, Prosper, and Kolek.

The only reason it won't be like that this year is because there are less spots. Shaka knows what he is doing and how to get good talent.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 07, 2022, 09:45:09 AM
Marquette had one of the better portals in all of college basketball last year with Morsell, Kuath, Prosper, and Kolek.

The only reason it won't be like that this year is because there are less spots. Shaka knows what he is doing and how to get good talent.

Eh.  We'll see.  Maybe Prosper explodes like some thing he will, but I have my doubts that any of those guys are very All Conference type players.  Morsell is the only one I'm certain should be a key piece on a high major contender.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 07, 2022, 09:45:30 AM
I feel like being listed with Ramey means one of two things. Either we are making the courtesy call given Shaka's history with him as a player and this isn't very serious interest or this is serious interest and someone is leaving that we aren't yet aware of.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2022, 09:50:57 AM
Eh.  We'll see.  Maybe Prosper explodes like some thing he will, but I have my doubts that any of those guys are very All Conference type players.  Morsell is the only one I'm certain should be a key piece on a high major contender.

What do you mean, eh?

4 starters.  Kuath was near the top of the league in blocks. Kolek lead the league in assists. Morsell was all Big East caliber. Prosper developed quite well.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 07, 2022, 09:52:30 AM
What do you mean, eh?

4 starters.  Kuath was near the top of the league in blocks. Kolek lead the league in assists. Morsell was all Big East caliber. Prosper developed quite well.

You just defined my "eh" for me.  A lot of one trick ponies who shouldn't be starting for your team if you want to be making NCAA Tournament runs.  At least not as they were last year.  Maybe they develop into that type of player, but outside of Morsell, none of those guys were what you need from a starter on a contender.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 07, 2022, 10:05:50 AM
I feel like being listed with Ramey means one of two things. Either we are making the courtesy call given Shaka's history with him as a player and this isn't very serious interest or this is serious interest and someone is leaving that we aren't yet aware of.

Sort of where I am at right now. Reaching out to Pack and Ramey were interesting developments to me. Makes me think it's the latter. Let the rampant speculation begin (continue?).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 07, 2022, 10:11:08 AM
I feel like being listed with Ramey means one of two things. Either we are making the courtesy call given Shaka's history with him as a player and this isn't very serious interest or this is serious interest and someone is leaving that we aren't yet aware of.

I lean courtesy. I heard Mizzou was the favorite when he entered.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2022, 11:12:02 AM
Nevada transfer Warren Washington tells us he is now focusing on:

Marquette
SDSU
Arizona State
LSU
Arkansas
Notre Dame
Florida

The 7’0” big man averaged 10.5 points and 6.6 rebounds this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 07, 2022, 11:15:14 AM
Nevada transfer Warren Washington tells us he is now focusing on:

Marquette
SDSU
Arizona State
LSU
Arkansas
Notre Dame
Florida

The 7’0” big man averaged 10.5 points and 6.6 rebounds this year.

I like the order of that list  ;)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 07, 2022, 11:17:48 AM
Nevada transfer Warren Washington tells us he is now focusing on:

Marquette
SDSU
Arizona State
LSU
Arkansas
Notre Dame
Florida

The 7’0” big man averaged 10.5 points and 6.6 rebounds this year.

Would be a massive, massive get. Bates is a fine player and would be a good consolation, but Washington is a game changer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2022, 11:19:42 AM
Would be a massive, massive get. Bates is a fine player and would be a good consolation, but Washington is a game changer.

LSU and Florida have new coaches (which doesn't mean a whole lot, and Arkansas just got commitment from the Mitchell twins.

I like where Marquette stacks up here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 07, 2022, 11:21:43 AM
Washinton and Oso could play together. Thats a separator for me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2022, 11:23:05 AM
Nevada transfer Warren Washington tells us he is now focusing on:

Marquette
SDSU
Arizona State
LSU
Arkansas
Notre Dame
Florida

The 7’0” big man averaged 10.5 points and 6.6 rebounds this year.

I like this development. Of the guys we have offered, Washington is at the top of my wishlist for the our need at C. Grab him and retain Lewis and I really like what our roster looks like going into next season. Do those two things and land a guy like Pack or Ramey (which of course means losing someone else) and I love what our roster would look like.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 07, 2022, 11:23:15 AM
What do you mean, eh?

4 starters.  Kuath was near the top of the league in blocks. Kolek lead the league in assists. Morsell was all Big East caliber. Prosper developed quite well.
4 starters…at Marquette, coming off a losing season.  I’m hopeful for next season. But you are more confident than me to this point.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TedBaxter on April 07, 2022, 11:26:58 AM
The one school that kind of stands out to me for Warren Washington is San Diego State.  He grew up 30 miles north of the campus in Escondido, so that is something to consider.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2022, 11:28:55 AM
4 starters…at Marquette, coming off a losing season.  I’m hopeful for next season. But you are more confident than me to this point.

That's the problem with this fanbase. Erase the recent Marquette past. How can you not be confident is Shaka?  He rebuilt a TERRIBLE team to make the NCAA Tournament in year 1. Players love playing for him. He is a proven winner in March and he is still the youngest coach in the Big East at just 44.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 07, 2022, 11:37:10 AM
Washinton and Oso could play together. Thats a separator for me.

How can they play together?  Neither has attempted a 3 point shot in their careers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 07, 2022, 11:41:02 AM
Would be a massive, massive get. Bates is a fine player and would be a good consolation, but Washington is a game changer.

Personal thought...scratch that, reverse it. Bates is perfect for our system and our biggest problem this year was running out two centers at 215 pounds, which is what Washington is. Give me a 230-240 pound guy that can bang down low, protect the rim, and finish. Health might be the question, but Bates is better at all of those things and did it at a higher level.

Washinton and Oso could play together. Thats a separator for me.

Neither can stretch the floor, so I can't see them on the floor together. The only way I think we see two bigs is if you end up with someone like Jake Stephens or Fardaws Aimaq that has shown some ability to hit the three.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2022, 11:42:52 AM
Personal thought...scratch that, reverse it. Bates is perfect for our system and our biggest problem this year was running out two centers at 215 pounds, which is what Washington is. Give me a 230-240 pound guy that can bang down low, protect the rim, and finish. Health might be the question, but Bates is better at all of those things and did it at a higher level.

Neither can stretch the floor, so I can't see them on the floor together. The only way I think we see two bigs is if you end up with someone like Jake Stephens or Fardaws Aimaq that has shown some ability to hit the three.

Pretty certain Bates has recently relisted teams and Marquette wasn't one of them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 07, 2022, 12:00:29 PM
Personal thought...scratch that, reverse it. Bates is perfect for our system and our biggest problem this year was running out two centers at 215 pounds, which is what Washington is. Give me a 230-240 pound guy that can bang down low, protect the rim, and finish. Health might be the question, but Bates is better at all of those things and did it at a higher level.

Neither can stretch the floor, so I can't see them on the floor together. The only way I think we see two bigs is if you end up with someone like Jake Stephens or Fardaws Aimaq that has shown some ability to hit the three.

Having watched both many times, Washington is twice the player Bates is. Point to his body stats all you want, but he is far from the portrayal you’re thinking of.

They’re both good defenders and rim protectors, but Washington is a dog on the glass. Eats up rebounds. Bates is a one dimensional scorer on offense, reliant others to score (dump offs/o board put backs). Washington is versatile offensively and can score multiple different ways down low.

Forgot to mention - Nevada plays really fast and Washington fits in well with the pace. NC State, not so much.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 07, 2022, 12:24:15 PM
Pretty certain Bates has recently relisted teams and Marquette wasn't one of them.

A couple lists came out within the first two days of him announcing his transfer. It's been pretty quiet since then, so I wouldn't take us out of the mix. Visiting LSU today, but otherwise nothing new since the first of the month.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Farley36 on April 07, 2022, 01:19:58 PM
He's a switch army knife. A very dull, ineffective switch army knife, but a switch army knife nonetheless.

Switch army knife?  Is that intentional?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 07, 2022, 01:29:45 PM
Switch army knife?  Is that intentional?

It’s autocorrect. Thanks for taking the time.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUDPT on April 07, 2022, 02:17:26 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1512147234955083782

Source: Loyola New Orleans (NAIA) grad transfer Zach Wrightsil will visit Marquette on April 14th.

Wrightsil was the NAIA Player of the Year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 07, 2022, 02:25:27 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1512147234955083782

Source: Loyola New Orleans (NAIA) grad transfer Zach Wrightsil will visit Marquette on April 14th.

Wrightsil was the NAIA Player of the Year.

Meh
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 07, 2022, 02:32:06 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1512147234955083782

Source: Loyola New Orleans (NAIA) grad transfer Zach Wrightsil will visit Marquette on April 14th.

Wrightsil was the NAIA Player of the Year.

Would be a good addition, but seems like more a wing/bully-ball 4. Fine fit if Justin goes, but not the big we need. Though if we go for a lower division guy, I'm more a fan of Cartier, we need the shooting.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Farley36 on April 07, 2022, 03:19:01 PM
It’s autocorrect. Thanks for taking the time.

So your phone thinks it’s switch cheese or switch chocolate or switch alps?   Interesting.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2022, 04:04:40 PM
So your phone thinks it’s switch cheese or switch chocolate or switch alps?   Interesting.

Do you know how autocorrect works?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 07, 2022, 04:08:01 PM
Would be a good addition, but seems like more a wing/bully-ball 4. Fine fit if Justin goes, but not the big we need. Though if we go for a lower division guy, I'm more a fan of Cartier, we need the shooting.

I prefer Wrightsil to Cartier.  Wrightsil at least has the athleticism to defend in Shaka's system.  Cartier doesn't, and his offense isn't special enough to offset that.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Farley36 on April 07, 2022, 04:11:03 PM
Yes, your phone corrects your poor spelling or grammar.   So panda is saying he either can’t spell Swiss correctly multiple times in one post or his phone doesn’t recognize Swiss knife as a term.  My phone didn’t autocorrect anything.  Are we actually buying this is an autocorrect issue or did panda just think it was actually a switch knife rather than a Swiss knife? 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2022, 04:12:50 PM
 :-X
Yes, your phone corrects your poor spelling or grammar.   So panda is saying he either can’t spell Swiss correctly multiple times in one post or his phone doesn’t recognize Swiss knife as a term.  My phone didn’t autocorrect anything.  Are we actually buying this is an autocorrect issue or did panda just think it was actually a switch knife rather than a Swiss knife?

We’re all buying something.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Farley36 on April 07, 2022, 04:23:40 PM
Anyway, back to to topic at hand.  Are there any players in the transfer portal who are European?  Like a good Switch big man maybe?   Maybe our defense wouldn’t have holes like Switch cheese then.  Damn autocorrect.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 07, 2022, 04:29:02 PM
Anyway, back to to topic at hand.  Are there any players in the transfer portal who are European?  Like a good Switch big man maybe?   Maybe our defense wouldn’t have holes like Switch cheese then.  Damn autocorrect.

Have you seen any of Bobby Oliver’s highlights ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: willie warrior on April 07, 2022, 04:30:06 PM
:-X
We’re all buying something.
They are both knives
 Switch knife has also been called switchblade knife. Swiss knives is usually called Swiss Army knife
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 07, 2022, 05:19:55 PM
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Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 07, 2022, 05:23:08 PM
Yes, your phone corrects your poor spelling or grammar.   So panda is saying he either can’t spell Swiss correctly multiple times in one post or his phone doesn’t recognize Swiss knife as a term.  My phone didn’t autocorrect anything.  Are we actually buying this is an autocorrect issue or did panda just think it was actually a switch knife rather than a Swiss knife?

Farley36:

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Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: willie warrior on April 07, 2022, 06:26:57 PM
:-X
We’re all buying something.
They are both knives
 Switch knife has also been called switchblade knife. Swiss knives is usually called Swiss Army knife
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 07, 2022, 06:33:20 PM
They are both knives
 Switch knife has also been called switchblade knife. Swiss knives is usually called Swiss Army knife


Willie, in all my time here, you finally managed to make a knowledgeable post that taught me something new!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 08, 2022, 09:49:45 AM
Didn't see it mentioned anywhere, but Jalen Graham to Arkansas. Not sure what the total count is, but there's not enough spots for the guys they have signed up for next year.  I'd be surprised if they added any more transfers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2022, 10:04:03 AM
Didn't see it mentioned anywhere, but Jalen Graham to Arkansas. Not sure what the total count is, but there's not enough spots for the guys they have signed up for next year.  I'd be surprised if they added any more transfers.

Currently at 15 scholarship players (though one is a preferred walkon who will likely lose his scholarship). I don't think Kamani Johnson has decided if he's using his COVID year or not, could see him moving on. Could also see Jaylin Williams going pro. That would get them down to 12. Eric isn't afraid to Muscleman people out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: willie warrior on April 08, 2022, 10:27:21 AM

Willie, in all my time here, you finally managed to make a knowledgeable post that taught me something new!
Thanks. You need to be a bit more discerning when thinking about my posts
 Keep the faith.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: onepost on April 08, 2022, 10:29:37 AM
Yes, your phone corrects your poor spelling or grammar.   So panda is saying he either can’t spell Swiss correctly multiple times in one post or his phone doesn’t recognize Swiss knife as a term.  My phone didn’t autocorrect anything.  Are we actually buying this is an autocorrect issue or did panda just think it was actually a switch knife rather than a Swiss knife?

You're quickly becoming the most insufferable poster on this site, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Ardmore Mug on April 08, 2022, 10:32:10 AM
Put him on IGONRE ! ! !  If no one answers his posts, the TROLL will go away ! ! ! But then again, people continue to QUOTE/BOX HIS COMMENTS, so we still his inane comments ! ! !  8-)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 08, 2022, 07:56:37 PM
Kenneth Lofton in the portal. We’re not getting him, but it may push some other quality big men down the list to us.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 08, 2022, 08:00:59 PM
Kenneth Lofton in the portal. We’re not getting him, but it may push some other quality big men down the list to us.
So we only get leftovers? SAD
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 08, 2022, 08:02:54 PM
So we only get leftovers? SAD

Good point. Fire Shaka - he can’t sign the best available transfer in the country.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 08, 2022, 08:05:04 PM
So we only get leftovers? SAD
this is what it’s come to, bro
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 08, 2022, 08:22:01 PM
Good point. Fire Shaka - he can’t sign the best available transfer in the country.
Agree.....
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 08, 2022, 09:03:16 PM
Bowman is bolting from Madison.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on April 08, 2022, 10:15:49 PM
Anyway, back to to topic at hand.  Are there any players in the transfer portal who are European?  Like a good Switch big man maybe?   Maybe our defense wouldn’t have holes like Switch cheese then.  Damn autocorrect.
Our defense? Your a unnatural carnal knowledgeing Badger fan you dick. Go away.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 09, 2022, 07:28:43 AM
Bowman is bolting from Madison.

Weird.  The Badgers media assured fans they were overreacting when Spero Dedes said he was gone during the Iowa State broadcast that he was wrong.  Lol
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 09, 2022, 08:13:32 AM
Bowman is bolting from Madison.

Weird.  The Badgers media assured fans they were overreacting when Spero Dedes said he was gone during the Iowa State broadcast that he was wrong.  Lol

Looks like he is wants to be closer to home.

https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/sports/ncaa/bowman-leaving-wisconsin-to-play-closer-to-his-detroit-home/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 09, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Looks like he is wants to be closer to home.

https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/sports/ncaa/bowman-leaving-wisconsin-to-play-closer-to-his-detroit-home/
Joey soft
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 09, 2022, 01:43:01 PM
If Justin is staying, bring me Washington and Ramey and let’s cook..(someone’s getting outsmarted)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 09, 2022, 07:51:52 PM
This whole thread is now out the window, because you can't trust everything you hear.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 09, 2022, 08:24:26 PM
This whole thread is now out the window, because you can't trust everything you hear.
Sounds soft
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 09, 2022, 11:27:23 PM
Two new contacts:

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1512811060969058310
Alex Fudge
6'8 185 lb SF from LSU
Averaged 3.3 points and 3.2 rebounds in 13 minutes per game
Former top 60 recruit

https://twitter.com/247HSHoops/status/1512889277771915277
Bryce Hopkins
6'7" 220 lb SF from Kentucky
Averaged 2.1 points in 6.5 minutes per game
Former top 40 recruit
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 10, 2022, 12:01:36 AM
Two new contacts:

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1512811060969058310
Alex Fudge
6'8 185 lb SF from LSU
Averaged 3.3 points and 3.2 rebounds in 13 minutes per game
Former top 60 recruit

https://twitter.com/247HSHoops/status/1512889277771915277
Bryce Hopkins
6'7" 220 lb SF from Kentucky
Averaged 2.1 points in 6.5 minutes per game
Former top 40 recruit
I love fudge
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 10, 2022, 06:03:29 AM
Two new contacts:

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1512811060969058310
Alex Fudge
6'8 185 lb SF from LSU
Averaged 3.3 points and 3.2 rebounds in 13 minutes per game
Former top 60 recruit

https://twitter.com/247HSHoops/status/1512889277771915277
Bryce Hopkins
6'7" 220 lb SF from Kentucky
Averaged 2.1 points in 6.5 minutes per game
Former top 40 recruit
(https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/s_70/706232e44e30eb4cb841baafaa81c3a8.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 10, 2022, 08:09:17 AM
Kamari McGee supposedly visiting the Badgers.  Good for him if he can get an offer. 

But he has a long way to go to be a contributor at the Big Ten level.  High usage, low efficiency player for one of the worst teams in the Horizon.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 10, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
Kamari McGee supposedly visiting the Badgers.  Good for him if he can get an offer. 

But he has a long way to go to be a contributor at the Big Ten level.  High usage, low efficiency player for one of the worst teams in the Horizon.

He may be the next Trev Anderson. Chooses to be a preferred walk on at Wisconsin when he's good enough to be a starter at a mid major
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rgoode57 on April 10, 2022, 09:15:11 AM
Call me old fashioned and out of touch if you will, but I simply do not understand how coaches can go to the transfer portal and basically recruit over payers they already have. For instance, if Shaka has a chance to get the world's greatest point guard from the portal and just cannot resist temptation, what kind of message does that send to the current guards and the incoming freshmen? Is winning another couple of games really worth losing credibility with your players? If you simply do not have a center and can get one from the portal, I see that. But, to use the portal to go get better payers than you already have seems a bit disingenuous to me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 10, 2022, 09:17:03 AM
He may be the next Trev Anderson. Chooses to be a preferred walk on at Wisconsin when he's good enough to be a starter at a mid major

Maybe, but the Badgers have four open scholarships.   I assume they will fill some of them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 10, 2022, 09:24:21 AM
Brandon Huntley-Hartfield, 6'10" freshman forward transferring from Tennessee. Former top 35 recruit.

https://www.on3.com/college/tennessee-volunteers/news/tennessee-forward-brandon-huntley-hatfield-enters-transfer-portal/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 10, 2022, 09:26:40 AM
Call me old fashioned and out of touch if you will, but I simply do not understand how coaches can go to the transfer portal and basically recruit over payers they already have. For instance, if Shaka has a chance to get the world's greatest point guard from the portal and just cannot resist temptation, what kind of message does that send to the current guards and the incoming freshmen? Is winning another couple of games really worth losing credibility with your players? If you simply do not have a center and can get one from the portal, I see that. But, to use the portal to go get better payers than you already have seems a bit disingenuous to me.

It will be very interesting on 2023 as they may have only 1 opening, but it seems Shaka is making a lot on inroads already with 3 or 4 kids!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 10, 2022, 09:34:31 AM
Call me old fashioned and out of touch if you will, but I simply do not understand how coaches can go to the transfer portal and basically recruit over payers they already have. For instance, if Shaka has a chance to get the world's greatest point guard from the portal and just cannot resist temptation, what kind of message does that send to the current guards and the incoming freshmen? Is winning another couple of games really worth losing credibility with your players? If you simply do not have a center and can get one from the portal, I see that. But, to use the portal to go get better payers than you already have seems a bit disingenuous to me.

Dabo Swinney was interviewed by ESPN and said the same thing.  He said wholesale changes through the portal sends a message to the locker room that they can’t play and hurts his recruiting in the end.  He agrees with you about filling a specific need that you don’t already have on the roster. 

It was also his opinion the power five football conferences pull away from the rest of the NCAA at least in football.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 10, 2022, 10:10:11 AM
Dabo Swinney was interviewed by ESPN and said the same thing.  He said wholesale changes through the portal sends a message to the locker room that they can’t play and hurts his recruiting in the end.  He agrees with you about filling a specific need that you don’t already have on the roster. 

It was also his opinion the power five football conferences pull away from the rest of the NCAA at least in football.

Swinney also said he'd retire if NLI happened.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 10, 2022, 10:31:04 AM
He may be the next Trev Anderson. Chooses to be a preferred walk on at Wisconsin when he's good enough to be a starter at a mid major

And then Anderson transferred to Valpo for his Covid year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 10, 2022, 10:42:42 AM
Swinney also said he'd retire if NLI happened.

Yep, that was in the article as well. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 10, 2022, 11:05:14 AM
Swinney also said he'd retire if NLI happened.

Dabo is just salty that NIL changes will undo some of the benefits of Clemson's extremely efficient under the table pay-for-play operation.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on April 10, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Call me old fashioned and out of touch if you will, but I simply do not understand how coaches can go to the transfer portal and basically recruit over payers they already have. For instance, if Shaka has a chance to get the world's greatest point guard from the portal and just cannot resist temptation, what kind of message does that send to the current guards and the incoming freshmen? Is winning another couple of games really worth losing credibility with your players? If you simply do not have a center and can get one from the portal, I see that. But, to use the portal to go get better payers than you already have seems a bit disingenuous to me.

I'm sure most coaches dislike the new transfer rules, but they need to play the hand they're dealt at this point.  Their jobs depend on continuous successful seasons, particularly in the tournament.  While there used to be a grace period of a few years while young players developed, teams gelled, etc., that's gone.  Fans expect the postseason every year now, and if your current team isn't good enough to get there, you have to go out and get the players who can.  Coaches are really put in a tough situation these days, because we fans clamor for them to active in the transfer portal, but then worry that team morale may take a hit because there's more competition.  It's odd that we now give pro sports teams far more time to build and re-build. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 10, 2022, 11:25:19 AM
Coaches have to be active in the portal because it’s likely that their players will be too.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 10, 2022, 11:27:09 AM
I think the wise coaches will go all in on the transfer rules. I think the wiser coaches will go all in on the 4/5 star high school players that were out of their reach two years ago.

Only so many rooms at the inn. When coaches at UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas are raiding the portal as their farm team, that's also a strong (anti) message to Grassroots AAU. It will be interesting where the equilibrium ends up.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 10, 2022, 11:39:28 AM
I think the wise coaches will go all in on the transfer rules. I think the wiser coaches will go all in on the 4/5 star high school players that were out of their reach two years ago.

Only so many rooms at the inn. When coaches at UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas are raiding the portal as their farm team, that's also a strong (anti) message to Grassroots AAU. It will be interesting where the equilibrium ends up.

There are typically like 25 5 star recruits in any given class. I don’t think there’s an “only so many rooms at the inn” problem.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 10, 2022, 12:53:32 PM
There are typically like 25 5 star recruits in any given class. I don’t think there’s an “only so many rooms at the inn” problem.

Of course I said 4/5 star recruits which are well over 100…but whatever.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 10, 2022, 01:21:46 PM
Of course I said 4/5 star recruits which are well over 100…but whatever.

Ok and how many high major teams with how many spots on each roster? I just don't see roster space ever being an issue for a top 100 recruit
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rgoode57 on April 10, 2022, 01:48:39 PM
I understand the pressure coaches are under to win, especially given the money they are paid now, but I am not sure anyone envisioned the transfer portal working the way it has turned out. It just seems weird that Iowa State, for example, can go to the portal and basically re-make their entire team in a single year. I heard one coach say that he does not intend to recruit hs kids at all anymore - just going to work the portal. Thinks there is less risk and more immediate results.

One thing I cannot help but wonder is how the transfer portal affects kids who have no chance of playing professionally. When the run-of-the-mill student transfers they have to think about how many credits will transfer, etc. Do these players even think about that or is just all about basketball. If, at the end of the day, you end up with no pro career of any kind and no degree, what did you accomplish?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2022, 02:22:53 PM
The transfer portal is working out exactly the way I envisioned once they gave basketball players the same kind of free agency that most other student-athletes have enjoyed forever.

A coach at a P6 school has the same pressure he always has - to win. The grace period is gone, as evidenced by the various degrees of disappointment many Scoopers have expressed about the final 6 weeks of Shaka's first season, so that amps up the pressure even more.

Shaka's like any other coach. Ultimately, if he wants to keep his job, he needs to get to the NCAAT and win games in the tourney. If that means recruiting over players, so be it. Some of that has always gone on, anyway. It will happen more now.

What's Kolek supposed to think if Shaka brings in the best PG transfer? He's supposed to think that he has to get better ... or go elsewhere. He'll be one of hundreds of kids who will have to think similar thoughts.

The players got free agency, and they got a way to earn money while in college. Both things are long overdue IMHO, but it's early in the game and it will take some time for it to feel "normal."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 10, 2022, 03:12:12 PM
Ok and how many high major teams with how many spots on each roster? I just don't see roster space ever being an issue for a top 100 recruit

I don't think Dr. B said anything about there not being enough room on high major rosters. What I think he said was that teams (high major not) have increased opportunity to grab higher rated high school recruits than they previously did.

In the past, Kentucky/Duke may have taken on 6 man recruiting classes with the 5th and 6th guys being ranked in the 20s or 30s. Now they may only take 3 freshmen and 3 of the top transfers, meaning the 4th, 5th, and 6th freshmen that they would have taken in previous years are now free to be scooped up by the next tier down...and when those schools pick up those three freshmen, that frees up three other freshmen that they likely would have picked up to be picked up by another school the next tier down...and so on and so forth.

I think Dr. B is right and that's why I've said relationship focused coaches who can keep their kids from transferring will be at a premium moving forward. Of course, so will expert transfer recruiters. Different ways to skin a cat.

I think the thing really wise coaches will do is recruit a lot of players transferring after their freshmen years. You still get three years with them and they've burned their free transfer so they are unlikely to leave.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rgoode57 on April 10, 2022, 03:21:20 PM
Can players only get one free transfer or can they do it multiple times?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 10, 2022, 04:11:00 PM
TAMU

I would build a team around top transfers with 2-3 years of eligibility left. It takes a lot of pressure off of being right with true freshmen and gives freshmen time to develop.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 10, 2022, 04:28:39 PM
TAMU

I would build a team around top transfers with 2-3 years of eligibility left. It takes a lot of pressure off of being right with true freshmen and gives freshmen time to develop.

Think that’s a solid philosophy and one that Shaka has at least partly adopted with guys like Omax and TK
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 10, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
Bryce Golden to Loyola.
Should be a good fit for the Ramblers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 10, 2022, 05:26:08 PM
Can players only get one free transfer or can they do it multiple times?

One free transfer. Though I believe that grad transfers are still a thing so theoretically 2 free transfers if they can graduate before exhausting their eligibility.

Think that’s a solid philosophy and one that Shaka has at least partly adopted with guys like Omax and TK

Yep. I'm positive that was very much on Shaka's mind when he went after them. Guys to build around for multiple years.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Equalizer on April 10, 2022, 05:43:53 PM
I don't think Dr. B said anything about there not being enough room on high major rosters. What I think he said was that teams (high major not) have increased opportunity to grab higher rated high school recruits than they previously did.

In the past, Kentucky/Duke may have taken on 6 man recruiting classes with the 5th and 6th guys being ranked in the 20s or 30s. Now they may only take 3 freshmen and 3 of the top transfers, meaning the 4th, 5th, and 6th freshmen that they would have taken in previous years are now free to be scooped up by the next tier down...and when those schools pick up those three freshmen, that frees up three other freshmen that they likely would have picked up to be picked up by another school the next tier down...and so on and so forth.

I think Dr. B is right and that's why I've said relationship focused coaches who can keep their kids from transferring will be at a premium moving forward. Of course, so will expert transfer recruiters. Different ways to skin a cat.

I think the thing really wise coaches will do is recruit a lot of players transferring after their freshmen years. You still get three years with them and they've burned their free transfer so they are unlikely to leave.

One small issue that I think you and the Dr. might be overlooking. 

The top 100 recruits are almost all long committed by the time transfers start to show up in the portal.

The early signing period for 2023 HS players takes place in November of 2022. 13 top 50 players are already vebally committed--most to the likes of Duke, Michigan State, Kentucky, UNC, Arizona. I cannot imagine these teams limiting their recruitment of a top 100 prospect in order to hold that scholarship for a potential transfer that won't be announced until March or April of 2023.

I think they'll continue to recruit and sign any HS players they want, and If a transfer they want happens to become available, they'll find a way to clear space -- most likely by announcing the player 11th through 13th on the depth chart has decided to transfer, or perhaps they need to backfill a player that just declared early for the NBA. 


Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 10, 2022, 06:33:48 PM
One small issue that I think you and the Dr. might be overlooking. 

The top 100 recruits are almost all long committed by the time transfers start to show up in the portal.

The early signing period for 2023 HS players takes place in November of 2022. 13 top 50 players are already vebally committed--most to the likes of Duke, Michigan State, Kentucky, UNC, Arizona. I cannot imagine these teams limiting their recruitment of a top 100 prospect in order to hold that scholarship for a potential transfer that won't be announced until March or April of 2023.

I think they'll continue to recruit and sign any HS players they want, and If a transfer they want happens to become available, they'll find a way to clear space -- most likely by announcing the player 11th through 13th on the depth chart has decided to transfer, or perhaps they need to backfill a player that just declared early for the NBA. 




I think they will be holding spots for transfers more than they used to.  Plus those that get recruited over by transfers can decommit or transfer themselves, see transfer from Kentucky we contacted yesterday.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2022, 07:27:22 PM
If a guy signs a letter of intent and then decides he wants to go elsewhere, does that count as his free transfer?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 10, 2022, 07:29:12 PM
If a guy signs a letter of intent and then decides he wants to go elsewhere, does that count as his free transfer?

I don't believe so. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Equalizer on April 11, 2022, 09:27:20 AM
I think they will be holding spots for transfers more than they used to.  Plus those that get recruited over by transfers can decommit or transfer themselves, see transfer from Kentucky we contacted yesterday.

Your second sentence explains why the first won't happen.

The fact that teams have other ways to find space on the roster for an incoming transfer--either by releasing an incoming freshman or having an upperclassman transfer out--means that there is absolutely no reason to hold a scholarship open.

Let's put it another way.  Can you imagine UNC going through all the time and effort to evaluate and recruit Seth Trimble so that by June of 2021, when Trimble is ready to commit, UNC tells him they're withdrawing their offer because they want to hold the scholarship open for a potential transfer ten months in the future?  And I used the example of Trimble specifically because he's not a five star, McDonald's AA.   At the time he committed he was ranked 54th--Solid 4-star prospect.

What you're saying is that teams like UNC will intentionally not sign players like Seth Trimble and instead hold scholarships open for a possible transfer.  I think that's crazy. 


Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 11, 2022, 09:47:12 AM
If a guy signs a letter of intent and then decides he wants to go elsewhere, does that count as his free transfer?
Here's what I found:
 The NLI is a one year binding contract. If you signed an NLI and want to transfer before finishing your freshman year, then you will need a release from the NLI in addition to permission to contact other schools and/or permission to use the one-time transfer exception.

While the NLI is in effect, it can impact a transfer in two ways. First, the NLI includes a recruiting ban, so other schools may not recruit you until you are released from that ban. Second, the NLI includes a penalty if you do not attend the school you signed with for one academic year. If you do not fulfill the NLI and enroll in another NLI school, you may not compete for one year and you lose one season of eligibility in all sports.

To get a release from the National Letter of Intent, you must use the release form on the NLI website. After you fill out your section of the form, you send a copy of the form to two places: your school’s athletic department offices and to the NLI offices at the NCAA Eligibility Center. Once you send the form, the athletic department must respond within 30 days. There are three options for them to respond:

No release – This means you are not released from the NLI and all of its provisions are still in effect.
Complete release – This means you are released from all of the NLI’s provisions.
Removal of the recruiting ban – This means the recruiting ban is lifted, but the NLI penalty is still in effect if you do not fulfill the NLI.
NLI releases cannot be school-specific, like permission to contact. So you cannot be released to one school but not another. Because of this, many schools will first remove the recruiting ban, but may not grant a complete release until the school knows where an athlete plans to transfer.

If a release is not granted, a student-athlete has 30 days to appeal to the NLI Policy and Review Committee (rather than to a group at the school). If the student-athlete losses that appeal, there is a second appeal to the NLI Appeals Committee. Each appeal takes approximately six to eight weeks to get a decision.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2022, 09:50:37 AM
Here's what I found:
 The NLI is a one year binding contract. If you signed an NLI and want to transfer before finishing your freshman year, then you will need a release from the NLI in addition to permission to contact other schools and/or permission to use the one-time transfer exception.

While the NLI is in effect, it can impact a transfer in two ways. First, the NLI includes a recruiting ban, so other schools may not recruit you until you are released from that ban. Second, the NLI includes a penalty if you do not attend the school you signed with for one academic year. If you do not fulfill the NLI and enroll in another NLI school, you may not compete for one year and you lose one season of eligibility in all sports.

To get a release from the National Letter of Intent, you must use the release form on the NLI website. After you fill out your section of the form, you send a copy of the form to two places: your school’s athletic department offices and to the NLI offices at the NCAA Eligibility Center. Once you send the form, the athletic department must respond within 30 days. There are three options for them to respond:

No release – This means you are not released from the NLI and all of its provisions are still in effect.
Complete release – This means you are released from all of the NLI’s provisions.
Removal of the recruiting ban – This means the recruiting ban is lifted, but the NLI penalty is still in effect if you do not fulfill the NLI.
NLI releases cannot be school-specific, like permission to contact. So you cannot be released to one school but not another. Because of this, many schools will first remove the recruiting ban, but may not grant a complete release until the school knows where an athlete plans to transfer.

If a release is not granted, a student-athlete has 30 days to appeal to the NLI Policy and Review Committee (rather than to a group at the school). If the student-athlete losses that appeal, there is a second appeal to the NLI Appeals Committee. Each appeal takes approximately six to eight weeks to get a decision.

Thanks for that very thorough answer, lawdog.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 11, 2022, 10:42:54 AM
It is official now, Bowman to Oakland University . Nice pick up for the Golden Grizzlies. I wonder if they sign Greg now? 

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/2022/04/10/oakland-basketball-transfer-lorne-bowman-ii-wisconsin/9535957002/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 11, 2022, 10:54:41 AM
Your second sentence explains why the first won't happen.

The fact that teams have other ways to find space on the roster for an incoming transfer--either by releasing an incoming freshman or having an upperclassman transfer out--means that there is absolutely no reason to hold a scholarship open.

Let's put it another way.  Can you imagine UNC going through all the time and effort to evaluate and recruit Seth Trimble so that by June of 2021, when Trimble is ready to commit, UNC tells him they're withdrawing their offer because they want to hold the scholarship open for a potential transfer ten months in the future?  And I used the example of Trimble specifically because he's not a five star, McDonald's AA.   At the time he committed he was ranked 54th--Solid 4-star prospect.

What you're saying is that teams like UNC will intentionally not sign players like Seth Trimble and instead hold scholarships open for a possible transfer.  I think that's crazy.

You can call it crazy but it's happening. Coaches have limited time,  resources, and energy to dedicate to recruiting and with the changes to the transfer portal,  many of them are shifting their focus from high school recruits towards the transfer portal. That doesn't mean that the are abandoning high school recruiting,  it's just a smaller part of the puzzle than it used to be
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 11, 2022, 11:58:03 AM
Marquette not listed with Manny Bates.  Looks like Warren Washington is the focus at C.


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1513558970027241473?t=oVLbjloBPxiNCX1VHlUS0A&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1513558970027241473?t=oVLbjloBPxiNCX1VHlUS0A&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 11, 2022, 12:59:22 PM
Do we expect a "414" announcement?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 11, 2022, 01:04:19 PM
Marquette not listed with Manny Bates.  Looks like Warren Washington is the focus at C.


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1513558970027241473?t=oVLbjloBPxiNCX1VHlUS0A&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1513558970027241473?t=oVLbjloBPxiNCX1VHlUS0A&s=19)

Too bad but Washington would be a huge get, and him along with Justin staying would set us up for a great year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 11, 2022, 01:24:39 PM
Too bad but Washington would be a huge get, and him along with Justin staying would set us up for a great year.

If Justin stays, expect him to play a lot more small ball 5 for Marquette next year. That's where a lot of NBA Scouts see him. I wouldn't be surprised if Wrightsil is the staffs guy instead ahead of Washington. I only see Washington coming in if someone other than Greg leaves.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 11, 2022, 01:31:32 PM
If Justin stays, expect him to play a lot more small ball 5 for Marquette next year. That's where a lot of NBA Scouts see him. I wouldn't be surprised if Wrightsil is the staffs guy instead ahead of Washington. I only see Washington coming in if someone other than Greg leaves.

A starting lineup with OMax, Wrightsil, Lewis up front is intriguing.

Lacking traditional center size but still a sizable lineup at 6'8", 6'7", 6'7" that knows how to rebound.

It could work given that Gold, Itejere, and Oso can provide a group rim protecting presence off the bench with their size and athleticism.

'09-'10 Marquette made the NCAA Tournament as a 6 seed with an 8 man rotation and starting lineup of

5'8"- Acker
6'0"- Cubillan
6'2"- Johnson-Odom
6'7"- Butler
6'6"- Hayward

Even less size and less depth than the proposed roster/lineup above.

A lot of ways Marquette could go with this roster. I'm excited to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 11, 2022, 02:08:21 PM
A starting lineup with OMax, Wrightsil, Lewis up front is intriguing.

Lacking traditional center size but still a sizable lineup at 6'8", 6'7", 6'7" that knows how to rebound.

It could work given that Gold, Itejere, and Oso can provide a group rim protecting presence off the bench with their size and athleticism.

'09-'10 Marquette made the NCAA Tournament as a 6 seed with an 8 man rotation and starting lineup of

5'8"- Acker
6'0"- Cubillan
6'2"- Johnson-Odom
6'7"- Butler
6'6"- Hayward

Even less size and less depth than the proposed roster/lineup above.

A lot of ways Marquette could go with this roster. I'm excited to see how it plays out.

And he was 6'6 in listing only. Got that Charles Barkley bump.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2022, 02:50:55 PM
'09-'10 Marquette made the NCAA Tournament as a 6 seed with an 8 man rotation and starting lineup of

5'8"- Acker
6'0"- Cubillan
6'2"- Johnson-Odom
6'7"- Butler
6'6"- Hayward


True, but one of those could end up as a Hall of Famer, another was a first-round draft pick and another got time in the NBA.

Hopefully, we have three future NBA players -- including a multiple All-Star -- on our roster next season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 11, 2022, 02:57:44 PM
True, but one of those could end up as a Hall of Famer, another was a first-round draft pick and another got time in the NBA.

Hopefully, we have three future NBA players -- including a multiple All-Star -- on our roster next season.

And another part-time NBA player (Buycks) was first off the bench.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on April 11, 2022, 03:36:08 PM
You can call it crazy but it's happening. Coaches have limited time,  resources, and energy to dedicate to recruiting and with the changes to the transfer portal,  many of them are shifting their focus from high school recruits towards the transfer portal. That doesn't mean that the are abandoning high school recruiting,  it's just a smaller part of the puzzle than it used to be

I think the smart guys will set up their staffs (recruiters) like the NFL does - a director of scouting for college and a director of scouting for pro personnel. Colleges will have a guy (or 3) that scout and recruit for HS and also a guy or two that scout and recruit out of the portal. The sheer volume of players now would seem to make it necessary.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 11, 2022, 03:40:38 PM
And another part-time NBA player (Buycks) was first off the bench.

That’s a bit misleading, Buycks wasn’t anything special when he was at Marquette.

I mean hell, Cadougan was pretty much splitting minutes with him by the end of the season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 11, 2022, 03:49:40 PM
That’s a bit misleading, Buycks wasn’t anything special when he was at Marquette.

I mean hell, Cadougan was pretty much splitting minutes with him by the end of the season.

Stating that a guy who was a part-time NBA player was a part-time NBA player is "misleading?"
OK.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 11, 2022, 03:52:58 PM
That’s a bit misleading, Buycks wasn’t anything special when he was at Marquette.

I mean hell, Cadougan was pretty much splitting minutes with him by the end of the season.

And Butler wasn't drafted until the next year either.

Point remains, there was several players with NBA talent on that team.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 11, 2022, 04:05:13 PM
Doubt Marquette will be in on him, but SMU's Kendrick Davis is in the portal. The PG was AAC player of the year and is probably the top overall transfer at this point.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 11, 2022, 05:18:45 PM
The Badger board is very confident in landing Kamari McGee.  Their equivalent of Big Daddy even says it's "in the bag."

And, yes, he will be on scholarship according to Twitter reports.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2022, 05:20:01 PM
The Badger board is very confident in landing Kamari McGee.  Their equivalent of Big Daddy even says it's "in the bag."

And, yes, he will be on scholarship according to Twitter reports.

I don’t see a Big Ten player in McGee but they always turn guys like this into something
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Superfan on April 11, 2022, 05:44:44 PM
If that’s their most interesting “landing” they’re in a world of hurt.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 11, 2022, 05:56:49 PM
The Badger board is very confident in landing Kamari McGee.  Their equivalent of Big Daddy even says it's "in the bag."

And, yes, he will be on scholarship according to Twitter reports.

Cannibalizing their own, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2022, 06:04:54 PM
Point remains, there was several players with NBA talent on that team.

Yes. And thanks to Pak for adding Buycks.

Next year's Marquette team almost certainly will not be as talented as the 2010 team.

Doesn't mean we won't be talented enough to win, though. We don't know yet.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 11, 2022, 06:19:35 PM
The Badger board is very confident in landing Kamari McGee.  Their equivalent of Big Daddy even says it's "in the bag."

And, yes, he will be on scholarship according to Twitter reports.


I like this move for them. The second straight season with an uninspiring guard transfer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 11, 2022, 08:10:44 PM
Marquette no longer on Noah Carter's list.


https://missouri.rivals.com/news/noah-carter-talks-mizzou-visit-future-plans
 (https://missouri.rivals.com/news/noah-carter-talks-mizzou-visit-future-plans)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on April 11, 2022, 08:18:38 PM
I don’t see a Big Ten player in McGee but they always turn guys like this into something

We're going to hate him.  He's going to play aggressive tight defense, draw charges, and do the little things.  I'm not sure what he will bring on offense.

Which sucks because Kam is one of the kindest, most mature, young men that I have ever taught.  Fortunately I'll only have to cheer against him three times.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 11, 2022, 08:20:10 PM
Marquette no longer on Noah Carter's list.


https://missouri.rivals.com/news/noah-carter-talks-mizzou-visit-future-plans
 (https://missouri.rivals.com/news/noah-carter-talks-mizzou-visit-future-plans)

Awesome! Didn't like the fit. Better options available.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 11, 2022, 08:32:31 PM
Awesome! Didn't like the fit. Better options available.

I think Wrightsil is done.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2022, 09:21:45 PM
I think Wrightsil is done.

As in donedeal, or done finished?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 11, 2022, 09:32:18 PM
Doubt Marquette will be in on him, but SMU's Kendrick Davis is in the portal. The PG was AAC player of the year and is probably the top overall transfer at this point.

If we were to go after a PG, he's the one I'd want. I can see him playing opposite Kolek, and would give us a big scoring punch, while still being a distributor. Could allow Kolek to move to the 2 at times, where he can catch and shoot.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 11, 2022, 09:41:45 PM
I think Wrightsil is done.

What could we be looking at with this kid?  Is he worth having for 1 year? 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 11, 2022, 10:00:19 PM
I think Wrightsil is done.

Adding a one and done, 4 year NAIA guy as the only offseason pickup (given our scholarship situation) wouldn’t be ideal in my mind. His numbers and accolades are obviously good, but that’s a huge, huge jump in competition and we need some proven high-level production.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 11, 2022, 10:02:21 PM
Adding a one and done, 4 year NAIA guy as the only offseason pickup (given our scholarship situation) wouldn’t be ideal in my mind. His numbers and accolades are obviously good, but that’s a huge, huge jump in competition and we need some proven high-level production.

It depends on whether Lewis is back and if we add another badass type guy imo. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 11, 2022, 10:20:05 PM
NAIA is roughly equivalent to NCAA D2 in terms of quality. Wrightsil has some eye popping numbers,  we'll see how they translate.

But hey,  Scottie Pippen was an NAIA player so obviously Wightsil is a future hall of famer
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 11, 2022, 10:40:30 PM
NAIA is roughly equivalent to NCAA D2 in terms of quality. Wrightsil has some eye popping numbers,  we'll see how they translate.

But hey,  Scottie Pippen was an NAIA player so obviously Wightsil is a future hall of famer

What's his overall arsenal?  Let's just assume he can be a productive D-1 player. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2022, 11:06:35 PM
I'd take a lower-level guy who has the same impact for us that Ryan Hawkins did for Creighton this past season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 11, 2022, 11:21:47 PM
What's his overall arsenal?  Let's just assume he can be a productive D-1 player.

Haven't watched him play so limited to what is available online. From what I can tell, Big East level athlete. High flyer and disruptive defender. Very quick first step. Rebounding numbers appear to be solid.

That's the good. The bad? The kid can't shoot. He was dominate off the dribble but struggles to score away from the bucket. Curious how he's going to fit into the scheme. Seems too small to play the 5 effectively. But he was NAIA player of the year and his team won the national championship so I think he can play at our level.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 11, 2022, 11:33:31 PM
His freshman year his team beat McNeese State and lost to Louisiana Lafayette by 13. He had big games in both, averaging 21.5 points and 11.5 rebounds per game.

His sophomore year his team gout blown out by Southern and Louisiana Lafayette. He averaged 9 points, 5 rebounds, and 4.5 assists.

His junior year his team lost by 20 to Southern Miss. He went for 8, 7, and 1.

I don’t think his team played any D1 schools in the 21/22 season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 11, 2022, 11:36:03 PM
I'd take a lower-level guy who has the same impact for us that Ryan Hawkins did for Creighton this past season.

Fair point.  This is what needs to be figured out.  It can't be a guess or taking a flyer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 12, 2022, 07:54:21 AM
Fair point.  This is what needs to be figured out.  It can't be a guess or taking a flyer.

Aren't they all kinda "a guess"? I mean, ask KU fans about Grimes, Nova fans about Quinerly or, well, Sparty fans about Vanilla Soft Serve. Remember when Bilas was touting Froling as a difference-maker for Marquette?

But I hear ya. An established P6 player is far less likely to end up having been "a flyer."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 12, 2022, 08:17:51 AM
Also remember that his role would be different.  Wrightsil was THE guy at Xavier.  He would likely be more in a defend and rebound type of role here.  Probably the third or fourth scoring option on the floor at any given time. 

And honestly I can see why Shaka is interested.  He is a 6'7" athlete with some length who looks like can guard the perimeter.  I am not sure that is a position we have right now.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 12, 2022, 08:27:30 AM


And honestly I can see why Shaka is interested.  He is a 6'7" athlete with some length who looks like can guard the perimeter.  I am not sure that is a position we have right now.
O-Max?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 12, 2022, 08:28:22 AM
Also remember that his role would be different.  Wrightsil was THE guy at Xavier.  He would likely be more in a defend and rebound type of role here.  Probably the third or fourth scoring option on the floor at any given time. 

And honestly I can see why Shaka is interested.  He is a 6'7" athlete with some length who looks like can guard the perimeter.  I am not sure that is a position we have right now.

O-Max says hi. But yes, that is why the staff is interested in him. Plus his ability to create off the dribble and run in transition.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 12, 2022, 08:51:59 AM
My thoughts on Wrightsil are pretty much the same as TAMU's.  I can see a versatile defender, rebounder, and athletic finisher around the rim.  The lack of shooting is a concern.

Wrightsil might not even start, especially if Lewis returns.  O-Max, Lewis, and Oso could start and Wrightsil subs for Oso.

I do like that Wrightsil is a 5th year player that would be using his Covid year.  That spot can then be used in 2023.  JQ Roberts would be a natural replacement, but one with a much higher upside.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 12, 2022, 09:34:07 AM
O-Max?
O-Max says hi.

Yep.  My bad.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 12, 2022, 01:51:36 PM
Kamari McGee officially announces his commitment to Wisconsin on Twitter.

Evan Flood spinning this as a major steal, citing a hot stretch over McGee's last 5 games with Green Bay.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 12, 2022, 02:01:31 PM
A 6-foot point guard that averaged 2 assists and shot 27% from three in the Horizon League as a Freshman.  Sounds like he's gonna be a real impact player in the Big14Ten.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 12, 2022, 03:02:48 PM
A 6-foot point guard that averaged 2 assists and shot 27% from three in the Horizon League as a Freshman.  Sounds like he's gonna be a real impact player in the Big14Ten.
Not sure how he's even going to see the floor with Katherine Hepburn in front of him
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 12, 2022, 03:23:33 PM
Defensively the kid is in your face defender, offensively the last 5 games he has improved offensively, good pick up, saw him play liked Tyress Much better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on April 12, 2022, 03:33:51 PM
Iowa State forward Tristan Enaruna is in the transfer portal.

The 6’8” junior averaged 4.3 points, and 2.9 rebounds per game. Started 26 out of 33 games for the cyclones. Played 2 seasons at Kansas before transferring to ISU.

https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1513977747437203460?s=12
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mug644 on April 12, 2022, 03:40:44 PM
Iowa State forward Tristan Enaruna is in the transfer portal.

The 6’8” junior averaged 4.3 points, and 2.9 rebounds per game. Started 26 out of 33 games for the cyclones. Played 2 seasons at Kansas before transferring to ISU.

https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1513977747437203460?s=12

Thanks for the new name. Not calling you out MUMike, but this is one of those descriptions of a player that leaves me scratching my head, trying guess how many years of eligibility he would have if he came to MU. Between free COVID year and one free transfer, and being listed as a junior...well, two years left? Maybe? I'm not sure.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 12, 2022, 03:55:41 PM
Thanks for the new name. Not calling you out MUMike, but this is one of those descriptions of a player that leaves me scratching my head, trying guess how many years of eligibility he would have if he came to MU. Between free COVID year and one free transfer, and being listed as a junior...well, two years left? Maybe? I'm not sure.

I thought only Marquette players transferred to ISU not the other way around?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2022, 03:59:33 PM
Brandin Podziemski of St. John’s Academy and then Illinois in the portal.  Had a Marquette offer under the previous staff
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 12, 2022, 04:00:22 PM
Kamari McGee officially announces his commitment to Wisconsin on Twitter.

Evan Flood spinning this as a major steal, citing a hot stretch over McGee's last 5 games with Green Bay.

Clearly a major steal compared to a guy like Kendric Davis, who was the AAC player of the year and led the league in scoring (19 points) and assists (7.6), while shooting 37.3% from 3 and snagging 4.2 rebounds per game.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2022, 04:06:33 PM
Kamari McGee officially announces his commitment to Wisconsin on Twitter.

Evan Flood spinning this as a major steal, citing a hot stretch over McGee's last 5 games with Green Bay.

In Evan’s defense, he spent a lot of time saying Bowman wouldn’t transfer after hyping him up for a few years.

He also hyped Matthew Mors a LOT. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 12, 2022, 04:11:30 PM
A 6-foot point guard that averaged 2 assists and shot 27% from three in the Horizon League as a Freshman.  Sounds like he's gonna be a real impact player in the Big14Ten.

Eh, not a bad way to use a scholarship for a back up PG.  Potentially higher upside but not counting on him to contribute significantly.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: zcg2013 on April 12, 2022, 04:21:57 PM
Brandon Podziemski has entered the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 12, 2022, 04:26:14 PM
In Evan’s defense, he spent a lot of time saying Bowman wouldn’t transfer after hyping him up for a few years.

He also hyped Matthew Mors a LOT.

Typical Badger spinzone.

Somebody called Evan out on Twitter for cherry picking stats.  Evan claimed he didn't cherry pick anything and then shifted the goalposts to "don't overanalyze the numbers" blah blah blah.   ::)

I'm sure Gard recruited McGee for a Derrick Wilson type role: 10 mpg backup PG.  Anything other than that is gravy.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 12, 2022, 04:27:09 PM
Iowa State forward Tristan Enaruna is in the transfer portal.

The 6’8” junior averaged 4.3 points, and 2.9 rebounds per game. Started 26 out of 33 games for the cyclones. Played 2 seasons at Kansas before transferring to ISU.

https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1513977747437203460?s=12
Creighton recruited Tristan heavily out of High School
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2022, 04:32:31 PM
Typical Badger spinzone.

Somebody called Evan out on Twitter for cherry picking stats.  Evan claimed he didn't cherry pick anything and then shifted the goalposts to "don't overanalyze the numbers" blah blah blah.   ::)

I'm sure Gard recruited McGee for a Derrick Wilson type role: 10 mpg backup PG.  Anything other than that is gravy.

The Badgers staff could tell him they’re recruiting Pete Moss and even if he didn’t realize it was a joke, he’s be reporting how good this kid is
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 12, 2022, 04:34:12 PM
The Badgers staff could tell him they’re recruiting Kate Moss and even if he didn’t realize it was a joke, he’d be reporting how good this kid is.  May need to bulk up a bit, but the capable strength staff is up for the challenge!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 12, 2022, 04:44:55 PM
Brandon Podziemski has entered the transfer portal.

Love that kids game. Would fit in well on the wing here
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 12, 2022, 04:46:57 PM
As in donedeal, or done finished?

Its a #DoneDeal
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: shoothoops on April 12, 2022, 04:47:27 PM
Noah Carter committed to Mizzou. Had Marquette in his final 5.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 12, 2022, 04:52:50 PM
Its a #DoneDeal

Does that mean we're getting Wrightsil or not?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 12, 2022, 04:55:27 PM
Does that mean we're getting Wrightsil or not?

Did we get shaka or not?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on April 12, 2022, 04:57:18 PM
Did we get shaka or not?
So we’ll get Wrightsil in 2029?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 12, 2022, 05:09:10 PM
Typical Badger spinzone.

Somebody called Evan out on Twitter for cherry picking stats.  Evan claimed he didn't cherry pick anything and then shifted the goalposts to "don't overanalyze the numbers" blah blah blah.   ::)

I'm sure Gard recruited McGee for a Derrick Wilson type role: 10 mpg backup PG.  Anything other than that is gravy.

I like how "mid major Chuckie Hepburn" was used as if Hepburn is suddenly Chris Paul and an enviable benchmark to be compared against.

I think he'll be a fine backup PG.  But acting like he's some high major, sharp shooting steal is hilarious
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 12, 2022, 05:12:46 PM
Its a #DoneDeal

If Wrightsil is our Justin replacement are in #InTrouble
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 12, 2022, 05:14:22 PM
If Wrightsil is our Justin replacement are in #InTrouble

Not even remotely true, especially considering our Justin replacement is already on the roster.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on April 12, 2022, 05:17:17 PM
The Badgers staff could tell him they’re recruiting Pete Moss and even if he didn’t realize it was a joke, he’s be reporting how good this kid is

Perfect for the Swing.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 12, 2022, 05:44:41 PM
Not even remotely true, especially considering our Justin replacement is already on the roster.

I have a lot more faith in wrightsil though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 12, 2022, 06:20:26 PM
Its a #DoneDeal

Thanks. Not sure who your sources are but I hope it's true if this guy is the real deal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 12, 2022, 06:21:24 PM
Wrightsil and Joplin are plenty capable.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 12, 2022, 06:31:23 PM
Brandin Podziemski of St. John’s Academy and then Illinois in the portal.  Had a Marquette offer under the previous staff



Wood bee grate ta get dis kidd, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2022, 06:32:06 PM


Woo bee grate ta get dis kidd, hey?

No, Wojo offered him.  Pass
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Boone on April 12, 2022, 06:37:50 PM
double pass
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 12, 2022, 07:41:29 PM
Unk Reako, da dude can shoot, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 12, 2022, 07:43:01 PM
Unk Reako, da dude can shoot, hey?
He could not get on the floor for an Illini team that really needed scoring from outside…….
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2022, 08:18:55 PM
Unk Reako, da dude can shoot, hey?

Don’t let the door hit him in the face
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 12, 2022, 08:20:56 PM
He could not get on the floor for an Illini team that really needed scoring from outside…….

He’s a really good player. Just not a great fit at u of I. He’s a high major player.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 12, 2022, 09:06:22 PM
Unk Reako, da dude can shoot, hey?
#FakeNews
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 12, 2022, 09:34:36 PM
Man who's happy to see all-conference player leave thinks Illinois' 13th man would be a great addition.
I wonder why that is.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 12, 2022, 09:58:06 PM
Man who's happy to see all-conference player leave thinks Illinois' 13th man would be a great addition.
I wonder why that is.

Lol so true.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 12, 2022, 10:44:26 PM
Justin Lewis is a possible NBA draft pick who would be preseason BEPOY if he returns ... but he's no Brandin Podziemski.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 12, 2022, 11:15:58 PM
Justin Lewis is a possible NBA draft pick who would be preseason BEPOY if he returns ... but he's no Brandin Podziemski.
One is white...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on April 12, 2022, 11:28:40 PM
Man who's happy to see all-conference player leave thinks Illinois' 13th man would be a great addition.
I wonder why that is.
Exactly.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: muguru on April 13, 2022, 07:17:12 AM
Dawson has entered the portal

https://twitter.com/InsideCarolina/status/1514212472005316610?s=20&t=htKJljv0zwqqjjGhI00l-Q
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 13, 2022, 07:19:26 AM
Dawson has entered the portal

https://twitter.com/InsideCarolina/status/1514212472005316610?s=20&t=htKJljv0zwqqjjGhI00l-Q

He seems like a guy who’s going to play for four college teams by the time his career ends.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 13, 2022, 07:20:35 AM
Dawson has entered the portal

https://twitter.com/InsideCarolina/status/1514212472005316610?s=20&t=htKJljv0zwqqjjGhI00l-Q

I will predict he heads to Minnesota and applies for a waiver.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2022, 07:22:40 AM
I will predict he heads to Minnesota and applies for a waiver.

I’ll be curious if he gets one.  I know his grandmother passed away after he returned home but I’m not sure that’ll be enough for a waiver with the NCAA but Minnesota is a good guess. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 13, 2022, 07:36:35 AM
I will predict he heads to Minnesota and applies for a waiver.
Would be fun if we played Minnesota in The Gavitt Games
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 13, 2022, 07:36:58 AM
Hoo gives a chit, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2022, 07:37:41 AM
Hoo gives a chit, hey?

I do
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 13, 2022, 07:40:46 AM
Hoo gives a chit, hey?

If only he had written a letter.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 13, 2022, 07:41:14 AM
Dawson should've been working out all year with Brady Manek.  That role is open now.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 13, 2022, 08:27:24 AM
People genuinely believe he left because of his grandmother death?

My guy saw his minutes going down after his concussion and got out of there. All while being disliked by his teammates.

Excited to see him in a Minnesota uniform next year. They need a second leading scorer behind Battle.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on April 13, 2022, 08:31:03 AM
I will predict he heads to Minnesota and applies for a waiver.

That was the thought from many as soon as he left, and it would actually surprise me if the NCAA didn't grant the waiver.  The mental health / family reason for transferring to a hometown school is difficult to argue against, and it would be a bad look for the NCAA to fight.  I think the fact that he left UNC halfway through the season will help his cause, too. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 13, 2022, 08:35:03 AM
That was the thought from many as soon as he left, and it would actually surprise me if the NCAA didn't grant the waiver.  The mental health / family reason for transferring to a hometown school is difficult to argue against, and it would be a bad look for the NCAA to fight.  I think the fact that he left UNC halfway through the season will help his cause, too.
Minnesota should be careful what they wish for.
When Garcia played here, we had a horrible record, next year, we make the tournament.
When Garcia was playing at UNC, they were a bubble team. After he left, they make the Championship game.

Not going to call him the C word, but Minn may want to take a biopsy first.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2022, 08:56:06 AM
Minnesota should be careful what they wish for.
When Garcia played here, we had a horrible record, next year, we make the tournament.
When Garcia was playing at UNC, they were a bubble team. After he left, they make the Championship game.

Not going to call him the C word, but Minn may want to take a biopsy first.

Makes you wonder about Sam Hauser, too.  Couldn’t win a tournament game at Marquette and went to the defending national champion who haven’t won another tournament game since then and even missed the tournament this past year.  That’s why the Celtics are pretenders in my book
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 13, 2022, 08:57:39 AM
Makes you wonder about Sam Hauser, too.  Couldn’t win a tournament game at Marquette and went to the defending national champion who haven’t won another tournament game since then and even missed the tournament this past year.  That’s why the Celtics are pretenders in my book

Maybe they can get into the NBA NIT. He did go to the NIT quarterfinals, after all.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mug644 on April 13, 2022, 09:00:55 AM
People genuinely believe he left because of his grandmother death?

My guy saw his minutes going down after his concussion and got out of there. All well while (sic. FIFY)being disliked by his teammates.

Excited to see him in a Minnesota uniform next year. They need a second leading scorer behind Battle.

https://twitter.com/ckh_gallus/status/1514236131738632196?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1514236131738632196%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fmarquette%2Fboard%2F104085%2FContents%2Fdawson-garcia--186138769%2Fnull (https://twitter.com/ckh_gallus/status/1514236131738632196?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1514236131738632196%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fmarquette%2Fboard%2F104085%2FContents%2Fdawson-garcia--186138769%2Fnull)

Tag.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 13, 2022, 09:02:42 AM
Makes you wonder about Sam Hauser, too.  Couldn’t win a tournament game at Marquette and went to the defending national champion who haven’t won another tournament game since then and even missed the tournament this past year.  That’s why the Celtics are pretenders in my book

Michigan State went a combined 94-21 the three seasons before Joey was inserted into the lineup, made an appearance in the Final Four and finished ranked in the top 10 all three seasons.
They're 38-26 since, with one tourney win and have finished outside the top 25 both seasons.

No going to call the Hausers the C word, though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2022, 09:05:11 AM
Michigan State went a combined 94-21 the three seasons before Joey was inserted into the lineup, made an appearance in the Final Four and finished ranked in the top 10 all three seasons.
They're 38-26 since, with one tourney win and have finished outside the top 25 both seasons.

No going to call the Hausers the C word, though.

I will.  The Hausers are cancers.  Sad!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PJDunn on April 13, 2022, 09:36:31 AM
Hausers and Ellensons both cancers... white ched bros not good.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 13, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
Minnesota would be the obvious choice, but it wouldn’t shock me to see Stan get involved and try and bring him out west.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 13, 2022, 10:48:16 AM
Minnesota would be the obvious choice, but it wouldn’t shock me to see Stan get involved and try and bring him out west.

Hes a done deal to Minny
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 13, 2022, 11:29:02 AM
Corey Floyd Jr, is available. The name brings back some bad memories.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 13, 2022, 11:51:01 AM
I will predict he heads to Minnesota and applies for a waiver.

Seems like the obvious move at this point.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 13, 2022, 12:29:10 PM
Wrightsil and Joplin are plenty capable.

I'll obviously support him and would be very happy to be proven wrong, but adding a glorified D2 player who cannot shoot (like, at all) doesn't really strike me as addressing our most glaring issues.

Seriously, take a look at his highlights from last year (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrPAjBg6Y0I). He might as well be playing against high school teams given the spacing and athleticism on display. His defense does look good, but again that is at least partially attributable to level of competition.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 13, 2022, 12:40:45 PM
Grant Basile to visit

Iowa State
Virginia Tech
Notre Dame
Wisconsin

Have to think Wisconsin is the favorite but that is a great list of schools for his style of play. Could see any of the 4 as a fit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 13, 2022, 01:05:42 PM
Hes a done deal to Minny

For sure ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 13, 2022, 01:19:42 PM
Grant Basile to visit

Iowa State
Virginia Tech
Notre Dame
Wisconsin

Have to think Wisconsin is the favorite but that is a great list of schools for his style of play. Could see any of the 4 as a fit.

A lot of crossover with Bennett Vander Plas's top 6.

Illinois
Iowa St
Ohio St
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 13, 2022, 02:06:50 PM
A lot of crossover with Bennett Vander Plas's top 6.

Illinois
Iowa St
Ohio St
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin

Interesting. Basile to Notre Dame and Vander Plas to Virginia seem like the best fits on paper with the current status of the programs but you have to believe Wisconsin ends up with 1 of them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2022, 02:13:37 PM
A lot of crossover with Bennett Vander Plas's top 6.

Illinois
Iowa St
Ohio St
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin

Thank god Shaka isn’t recruiting these hillbillies
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 13, 2022, 02:38:10 PM
Interesting. Basile to Notre Dame and Vander Plas to Virginia seem like the best fits on paper with the current status of the programs but you have to believe Wisconsin ends up with 1 of them.

There's an interesting personal connection with the Vander Plas and Bennett families.  Dean Vander Plas played at UWGB with Tony Bennett and Dick Bennett was the coach.  Dean is Bennett Vander Plas's dad, apparently naming him after the Bennett family.

Bennett Vander Plas also played on the Ohio team that beat Tony Bennett and Virginia.  Playing at Virginia would complete the Bennett Vander Plas circle.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 13, 2022, 02:52:17 PM
Thank god Shaka isn’t recruiting these hillbillies
…just D-II guys
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2022, 02:58:10 PM
…just D-II guys

Better them than some white boys from cow towns
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on April 13, 2022, 02:58:49 PM
Was not in the Portal but Armando Bacot is returning to North Carolina for his Senior Season
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 13, 2022, 03:02:53 PM
If Oscar Tshiebwe would transfer to Marquette already I bet they'd win more NCAA Tournament games than he did this year at Kentucky.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 13, 2022, 03:37:08 PM
Interesting note on Warren Washington that I missed until reading it today.

"Washington began his career in the Pac-12 at Oregon State, so this is his second transfer, which would require an NCAA waiver to play immediately. Washington has two years of eligibility left."

With Marquette in his Final 7 this is highly relevant.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 13, 2022, 03:38:50 PM
Interesting note on Warren Washington that I missed until reading it today.

"Washington began his career in the Pac-12 at Oregon State, so this is his second transfer, which would require an NCAA waiver to play immediately. Washington has two years of eligibility left."

With Marquette in his Final 7 this is highly relevant.

I don't think that will end up being the case because he sat out a year after transferring from Oregon State. The year in residency was relaxed after COVID, which was the year he sat out, so I'm guessing he gets a pass and immediate eligibility.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 13, 2022, 04:07:27 PM
Alex Fudge to Florida.
Fudge that.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 13, 2022, 05:57:16 PM
Greg Elliott is officially in the portal
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 13, 2022, 07:26:33 PM
Greg Elliott is officially in the portal
Would be a great candidate for Oakland Golden Grizzlies .
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 13, 2022, 07:38:49 PM
If greg is the only guy transferring out, and Wrightsil comes in. It is going to be interesting to see if Marquette continues to recruit as much as they were a couple of weeks ago. Like if Washington will visit. If they think Justin is gone, they will. If not there might be a chance of Justin coming back and he could possibly play more small ball 5 next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 13, 2022, 08:19:13 PM
If greg is the only guy transferring out, and Wrightsil comes in. It is going to be interesting to see if Marquette continues to recruit as much as they were a couple of weeks ago. Like if Washington will visit. If they think Justin is gone, they will. If not there might be a chance of Justin coming back and he could possibly play more small ball 5 next year.

You might take a second recruit, then Lewis goes into the transfer portal.  Coaches have tough decisions to make, that is for sure. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 13, 2022, 08:56:40 PM
If greg is the only guy transferring out, and Wrightsil comes in. It is going to be interesting to see if Marquette continues to recruit as much as they were a couple of weeks ago. Like if Washington will visit. If they think Justin is gone, they will. If not there might be a chance of Justin coming back and he could possibly play more small ball 5 next year.
Always be recruiting, things get sorted out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GOO on April 13, 2022, 11:04:32 PM
Do we need to save a scholarship for Justin?  Couldn’t he just take NIL money and skip the scholarship?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tyler COLEk on April 14, 2022, 09:28:19 AM
Always amazed at the pessimism here. Justin Lewis will be back. He said so himself less than a week ago! He just wants as unbiased an evaluation from NBA teams as possible. And maybe to maintain leverage to encourage some local NLI sponsorship. I wouldn’t be surprised if Shaka himself told him to walk back those initial comments.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Equalizer on April 14, 2022, 09:30:51 AM
You might take a second recruit, then Lewis goes into the transfer portal.  Coaches have tough decisions to make, that is for sure.

If Shaka is sitting with 14 committed players and Justin is one of them, I guarantee you Justin is not going to be the guy asked to go to the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 14, 2022, 09:31:56 AM
Always amazed at the pessimism here. Justin Lewis will be back. He said so himself less than a week ago! He just wants as unbiased an evaluation from scouts as possible. I wouldn’t be surprised if Shaka himself told him to walk back those initial comments.

Also possible he meant he's staying at MU for the rest of the semester.  Several guys leave school as soon as the basketball season ends to prep for the draft.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2022, 09:51:32 AM
He gowne, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 14, 2022, 10:04:47 AM
Always amazed at the pessimism here. Justin Lewis will be back. He said so himself less than a week ago! He just wants as unbiased an evaluation from NBA teams as possible. And maybe to maintain leverage to encourage some local NLI sponsorship. I wouldn’t be surprised if Shaka himself told him to walk back those initial comments.

I'm a pretty optimistic dude, but I think you're a little too Pollyanna for me
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 14, 2022, 10:06:35 AM
Always amazed at the pessimism here. Justin Lewis will be back. He said so himself less than a week ago! He just wants as unbiased an evaluation from NBA teams as possible. And maybe to maintain leverage to encourage some local NLI sponsorship. I wouldn’t be surprised if Shaka himself told him to walk back those initial comments.

Mind sharing where he said that? 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 14, 2022, 10:14:01 AM
Mind sharing where he said that?

He walked it back.  Start here and read the the craziness:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63243.msg1441153#msg1441153

tl;dr -  Said on an IG Live chat he was staying at MU, then replied on twitter to an article about said statement with "don't believe everything to hear" - or something to that extent.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2022, 10:23:23 AM
TwoWords

I am with TAMU on being optimistic person by nature, but I think Lewis is gone for good. As for my optimistic side, I believe Shaka will have a better player in that spot this upcoming season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: withoutbias on April 14, 2022, 10:25:19 AM
Sorry, posted in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 14, 2022, 10:26:17 AM
Waiting for my 414 day dump of Marquette transfers commitments....
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 14, 2022, 10:28:37 AM
Also possible he meant he's staying at MU for the rest of the semester.  Several guys leave school as soon as the basketball season ends to prep for the draft.

He also added later in response to Chase Ross that he was going to "run it back" and play again next year.

I think it is entirely possible he is gone next year, but I don't think he has any idea on what he will decide to this point.

It's pretty clear that he wants to go to the NBA (because who wouldn't) but he will make the best choice for his future after getting advice from the league.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 14, 2022, 10:42:25 AM
Waiting for my 414 day dump of Marquette transfers commitments....

Seeing how we have the visit today it might take a week to 10 days for the pictures to develop.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 14, 2022, 10:46:07 AM
He walked it back.  Start here and read the the craziness:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63243.msg1441153#msg1441153

tl;dr -  Said on an IG Live chat he was staying at MU, then replied on twitter to an article about said statement with "don't believe everything to hear" - or something to that extent.

I think Andy from Anonymous Eagle had the best summation: https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2022/4/9/23018288/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-justin-lewis-nba-draft-future-entry

This part in particular: "It was only a matter of time before Justin Lewis weighed in on what Justin Lewis said in that live streaming video, though. Justin Lewis made it very clear that Justin Lewis has no idea what Justin Lewis is talking about and that Justin Lewis definitely does not speak for Justin Lewis when it comes to Justin Lewis’ future."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: swoopem on April 14, 2022, 10:49:03 AM
Goose and 4ever,

Do you think Justin is gone for good cuz he’s gonna stay in the draft regardless of feedback or if he comes back to college he’s going to transfer? A transfer would be a kick in the balls
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2022, 10:54:38 AM
Swoop

Zero inside info, but if he does not go pro, I think he ends up at another school. In the free agent market, he really is high level commodity that could play a big role on a very good team next season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2022, 11:00:13 AM
I'm with Goose on this. Pretty sure he's kissed off MU. May be taking his talents anywhere from U of Kansas to the Maine Redclaws, to Bangladesh, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: drbob on April 14, 2022, 11:07:43 AM
think it would be a sad commentary on state of MU basketball program if its best player leaves for another school.  Also says Shaka is not a destination coach and Marquette will never be on a par with the likes of Villanova. Surprised you feel that way Goose, as I thought you were very high on the future with Shaka as coach.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2022, 11:12:25 AM
Will only speak for myself, but the sooner Shaka gets his own recruits into the program, the sooner we'll be going Uptown, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 14, 2022, 11:23:15 AM
TwoWords

I am with TAMU on being optimistic person by nature, but I think Lewis is gone for good. As for my optimistic side, I believe Shaka will have a better player in that spot this upcoming season.

That is significantly less likely than Justin returning
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 11:28:09 AM
Swoop

Zero inside info, but if he does not go pro, I think he ends up at another school. In the free agent market, he really is high level commodity that could play a big role on a very good team next season.
I don't see him going to another school. When was the last time  the best player on a P-6, NCAA tourney team transferred when there wasn't a coaching change?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2022, 11:29:09 AM
drbob

I think Lewis will be an exception to the rule if he transfers. He was not a Shaka recruit, had a breakout year and has plenty of options out there. I am sure we will have players, even good or very good, transfer down the road, but I think the Lewis situation is a bit different. Top programs will be replacing grad or transfers every year and Lewis could be a missing piece for team expecting a deep March run next year.

My hope is a year from now we are the program looking for the Lewis type transfer to provide a deep run at MU. That said, I would not fault Lewis if he could play a big role on a team that needs that one guy. At this moment, MU still needs "guys" with or without Lewis, IMO.

For the record, I think Shaka is a destination coach and needs another year to piece things together. I said in earlier in post, if Lewis is gone, Shaka has to find a better Lewis and I think he does.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2022, 11:35:57 AM
Yes, because better than first team big east is available at your local CVS.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 14, 2022, 11:36:57 AM
Yes, because better than first team big east is available at your local CVS.

If you can replace him with Joey Hauser, you make that trade
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 14, 2022, 11:44:17 AM
Just to play devil's advocate, if Justin is gone (and I expect he is) I believe his replacement is already here and, especially considering his comments on transfers yesterday, they won't be looking to make radical changes through the portal.

Shaka's comments about transfers needing to fit the program and the advantage of moldable players (he cited Emarion Ellis) reminded me of last year's "All culture for the first two years." It feels like short-term winning is secondary to creating a sustainable, long-term culture of success. I think he's looking at programs like Villanova, Baylor, and Gonzaga as models for success where they got the right guys in to win and while they clearly still valued talent, it was getting the most talented players that fit that culture, with talent being disregarded if it doesn't match up with the long-term goals of the program.

If you're hoping to see Justin replaced with Kendric Davis or someone of that ilk, I think you'll be disappointed. I think it's more likely we'll see Joplin and O-Max given that additional offensive freedom because those are the guys that will be leading this team in the years to come and setting the table for what Smart wants the program to be not just in a year or two, but in a decade or two.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2022, 11:46:02 AM
lawdog

So, I guess we should not be holding out hope that Ramey ends up at MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 14, 2022, 11:46:21 AM
Shaka talks recruiting philosophy, high school vs transfer portal.


https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=sOdughIy86x7OicWjbK2RA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=sOdughIy86x7OicWjbK2RA&s=19)

After hearing this, I think Wrightsil will be our only portal addition this year.  If Lewis stays in the draft, his spot might go unfilled.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2022, 11:52:49 AM
I am 100% sure that a lot of the guys in the transfer portal are not good fits, we need 2-3 to be good fits. I would be very surprised if we ended up with only transfer entering the program next year. If it ends up with one guy, and no Lewis, Shaka has a lot of coaching work ahead of him to build off of this season. IMO, he would have to be a very confident guy to roll the dice with only one transfer and the returning team going into next season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 14, 2022, 12:00:21 PM
He also added later in response to Chase Ross that he was going to "run it back" and play again next year.

I think it is entirely possible he is gone next year, but I don't think he has any idea on what he will decide to this point.

It's pretty clear that he wants to go to the NBA (because who wouldn't) but he will make the best choice for his future after getting advice from the league.
…I hope Lewis isn’t talking to the same peeps Vander ‘consulted’ with.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 14, 2022, 12:00:37 PM
Shaka talks recruiting philosophy, high school vs transfer portal.


https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=sOdughIy86x7OicWjbK2RA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=sOdughIy86x7OicWjbK2RA&s=19)

After hearing this, I think Wrightsil will be our only portal addition this year.  If Lewis stays in the draft, his spot might go unfilled.

Those were the comments I was referring to. I still think there's a chance it's Wrightsil and a true big (Washington?) and if we're going over/under 1.5, I'm taking the over, especially if Justin leaves, but timing could make it difficult.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 12:09:57 PM
lawdog

So, I guess we should not be holding out hope that Ramey ends up at MU.
Ramey was not the best player on his team last year. Also too lazy to look, but how many transfers have been drafted in the past 5 years?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 14, 2022, 12:29:37 PM
TwoWords

I am with TAMU on being optimistic person by nature, but I think Lewis is gone for good. As for my optimistic side, I believe Shaka will have a better player in that spot this upcoming season.
We're getting something better than 1st Team All-BE and potential BEPOY? That's good to know.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2022, 12:54:44 PM
Smith

We may already have the guy on the team. I believe Omax is going to have a breakout year next season. If that is the case, we need to upgrade the role filled by Omax this season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 14, 2022, 12:55:29 PM
Goose may have picked up some new hallucinogens...

We're getting something better than 1st Team All-BE and potential BEPOY? That's good to know.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2022, 01:05:32 PM
Point

Someone on here said after the UNC game that if the two teams were playing pickup basketball and picking teams, the first three, possibly four picks would be UNC guys and I agree with that. If that really is the case, I will take my chances on finding a comparable or better replacement for Lewis.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 14, 2022, 01:05:40 PM
Ramey was not the best player on his team last year. Also too lazy to look, but how many transfers have been drafted in the past 5 years?

Just last year in the first round….

Davion Mitchell
Chris Duarte
Trey Murphy
Quentin Grimes
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 01:15:54 PM
Just last year in the first round….

Davion Mitchell
Chris Duarte
Trey Murphy
Quentin Grimes
None of them were the best player on their pre transfer teams. My point is, if you are P-6, are the best player on your team, you are either going pro, or staying where you are.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 14, 2022, 01:24:12 PM
Goose - NC has some players, that for sure.  Assuming JL would be the fourth pick, then likely 4 more UNC players, Shaka needs a whole lot more players.

But I don't get the "I will take my chances on finding a comparable or better replacement for Lewis."   

Is there a tree somewhere growing 1st team BE players that want to play in Milwaukee that only Shaka knows of?   And if so, why can't Shaka get 6 or 7 players better than JL?  Why settle for one?



Point

Someone on here said after the UNC game that if the two teams were playing pickup basketball and picking teams, the first three, possibly four picks would be UNC guys and I agree with that. If that really is the case, I will take my chances on finding a comparable or better replacement for Lewis.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 14, 2022, 01:34:54 PM
None of them were the best player on their pre transfer teams. My point is, if you are P-6, are the best player on your team, you are either going pro, or staying where you are.

Oscar Tshiebwe, Jack Nunge, Alondes Williams, Colin Castleton, Brady Manek, Alfonso Plummer, Kyler Edwards, Timmy Allen, Andrew Nemhard etc.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 14, 2022, 01:38:27 PM
Just to play devil's advocate, if Justin is gone (and I expect he is) I believe his replacement is already here and, especially considering his comments on transfers yesterday, they won't be looking to make radical changes through the portal.

Shaka's comments about transfers needing to fit the program and the advantage of moldable players (he cited Emarion Ellis) reminded me of last year's "All culture for the first two years." It feels like short-term winning is secondary to creating a sustainable, long-term culture of success. I think he's looking at programs like Villanova, Baylor, and Gonzaga as models for success where they got the right guys in to win and while they clearly still valued talent, it was getting the most talented players that fit that culture, with talent being disregarded if it doesn't match up with the long-term goals of the program.

If you're hoping to see Justin replaced with Kendric Davis or someone of that ilk, I think you'll be disappointed. I think it's more likely we'll see Joplin and O-Max given that additional offensive freedom because those are the guys that will be leading this team in the years to come and setting the table for what Smart wants the program to be not just in a year or two, but in a decade or two.

Joplin had all of the offensive freedom in the world last year, and the results were questionable at best. Unless you are projecting for a lot of growth. Do not be surprised if Wrightsil or Gold to out play him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 14, 2022, 01:42:43 PM
Joplin had all of the offensive freedom in the world last year, and the results were questionable at best. Unless you are projecting for a lot of growth. Do not be surprised if Wrightsil or Gold to out play him.

*In limited action.

It's so tough for a guy like Joplin to come in and knock down shots playing such inconsistent minutes. Extended minutes will be a revelation for him. He's a really, really good scorer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 14, 2022, 01:44:40 PM
Joplin had all of the offensive freedom in the world last year, and the results were questionable at best. Unless you are projecting for a lot of growth. Do not be surprised if Wrightsil or Gold to out play him.

I mean...does anyone that plays less than 7 mpg really have "all of the offensive freedom in the world"?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 14, 2022, 01:46:15 PM
I mean...does anyone that plays less than 7 mpg really have "all of the offensive freedom in the world"?

He did have a green light - but coming in cold, missing a shot or two in his three minutes of action and then sitting the rest of the game makes some think negatively of him. I love his offensive game and am very excited for big things next year in more minutes. Much more concerned with his defensive awareness than his offensive game.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 14, 2022, 01:48:53 PM
I mean...does anyone that plays less than 7 mpg really have "all of the offensive freedom in the world"?

I mean, he shot the ball 26% of the time he touched it. More than anyone not named Justin.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 01:50:46 PM
Oscar Tshiebwe, Jack Nunge, Alondes Williams, Colin Castleton, Brady Manek, Alfonso Plummer, Kyler Edwards, Timmy Allen, Andrew Nemhard etc.
How many of those were the best player on their pretransfer teams. Tshiebwe averaged 8 points a game his last year at WVU. Nunge  was behind garza. Williams averaged 6 pts a game.Castlerton averaged 3 pts a game.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 14, 2022, 01:52:55 PM
How many of those were the best player on their pretransfer teams. Tshiebwe averaged 8 points a game his last year at WVU. Nunge  was behind garza. Williams averaged 6 pts a game.Castlerton averaged 3 pts a game.

So you want to know how many players are the best player at their power 5 school, then transfer to another power 5 school and are the best player at that school, and then get drafted after that?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 14, 2022, 01:53:53 PM
I mean, he shot the ball 26% of the time he touched it. More than anyone not named Justin.

He shot it a lot when he was in there, and when they were shots the staff didn't like, immediately got pulled, which is part of why he played 6.9 mpg. He clearly has a scorer's mentality and is encouraged to hunt shots, but usage alone doesn't tell the story when the guy played the fewest minutes of anyone that could be considered a rotation player.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 01:55:29 PM
So you want to know how many players are the best player at their power 5 school, then transfer to another power 5 school and are the best player at that school, and then get drafted after that?
they dont have to be the best player at their new school, best player at old p6 school, no coaching change, and transfer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 14, 2022, 01:58:48 PM
He did have a green light - but coming in cold, missing a shot or two in his three minutes of action and then sitting the rest of the game makes some think negatively of him. I love his offensive game and am very excited for big things next year in more minutes. Much more concerned with his defensive awareness than his offensive game.

Yep. Except his adjusted offense was worse than anyone, expect EE, when filtering out garbage time and when not.

Filtering out garbage time again, with David on the court MU was 93rd in adjusted offense 184th in adjusted defense. With David off the court MU was 75th in adjO and 39th in adjD.

I just see him having less of an impact baring a major change on the defensive side of the ball.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 14, 2022, 02:00:29 PM
they dont have to be the best player at their new school, best player at old p6 school, no coaching change, and transfer.

Lol sorry I missed your 27 qualifiers before I responded.

In general and in this day and age, it's very commonplace for good players to leave power6 schools and transfer to other p6 schools.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 02:03:46 PM
Lol sorry I missed your 27 qualifiers before I responded.

In general and in this day and age, it's very commonplace for good players to leave power6 schools and transfer to other p6 schools.,
its only 3. I am saying its not commonplace for the star of a p6 team to transfer without a coaching change. I cant think of any.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 14, 2022, 02:10:04 PM
its only 3. I am saying its not commonplace for the star of a p6 team to transfer without a coaching change. I cant think of any.

There was a coaching change since Justin committed to Marquette.  He chose to stick it out and play at Marquette for the new coach.  He blew up and now he has a lot better options than he might've had last year.  If he chooses to return to college basketball, he'll have the opportunity to get a lot more in NIL for a better team than Marquette next year, if those are things that he'd be looking for.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 02:14:08 PM
There was a coaching change since Justin committed to Marquette.  He chose to stick it out and play at Marquette for the new coach.  He blew up and now he has a lot better options than he might've had last year.  If he chooses to return to college basketball, he'll have the opportunity to get a lot more in NIL for a better team than Marquette next year, if those are things that he'd be looking for.
He would be the first to do it. Best player , no immediate coaching change, declares for draft, goes back to school, transfers. I would be shocked if he transfers schools.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 14, 2022, 03:11:20 PM
He would be the first to do it. Best player , no immediate coaching change, declares for draft, goes back to school, transfers. I would be shocked if he transfers schools.

James Akinjo did it two years ago.

Remy Martin just did it last year.

Sahvir Wheeler just did it last year.

Transfers being immediately eligible just became a thing this past year.  If a guy's a borderline Draft pick, he isn't going to sit out a season of basketball transferring, so yeah it wasn't very common prior to last year.  Nor was making money as a college athlete, where different schools will be able to give you better opportunities to make money.  The circumstances are vastly different now.  Last year you had a ton of guys who both declared for the NBA Draft and entered the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
James Akinjo did it two years ago.

Remy Martin just did it last year.

Sahvir Wheeler just did it last year.

Transfers being immediately eligible just became a thing this past year.  If a guy's a borderline Draft pick, he isn't going to sit out a season of basketball transferring, so yeah it wasn't very common prior to last year.  Nor was making money as a college athlete, where different schools will be able to give you better opportunities to make money.  The circumstances are vastly different now.  Last year you had a ton of guys who both declared for the NBA Draft and entered the transfer portal.
Akinjo had a coaching change at Arizona.  Remy Martin is one. He entered the transfer portal not too long after declaring for the draft, so we will see if Justin enters the portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 14, 2022, 03:26:53 PM
Akinjo had a coaching change at Arizona.  Remy Martin is one. He entered the transfer portal not too long after declaring for the draft, so we will see if Justin enters the portal.

Akinjo from Georgetown to Arizona.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 03:37:23 PM
Akinjo from Georgetown to Arizona.
Fair enough (McClung did it too, I think). If you look at those 3, look at the teams they previously played for. All 3 were sht-shows.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 03:47:42 PM
The perfect Wojo player has entered the portal. Antoine Davis.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on April 14, 2022, 05:21:25 PM
Akinjo had a coaching change at Arizona.  Remy Martin is one. He entered the transfer portal not too long after declaring for the draft, so we will see if Justin enters the portal.

Remy Martin is a little different I think since he was a grad transfer, no? In any case, they need to put in a provision that you can only get immediate eligibility going from one P6 school to another if you play less than “x” minutes a game (or some other productively metric). Grad transfers and coaching changes would be exceptions.

It will be better for the game if immediate eligibility is reserved for players either going up or going down a level.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 14, 2022, 05:31:07 PM
Remy Martin is a little different I think since he was a grad transfer, no? In any case, they need to put in a provision that you can only get immediate eligibility going from one P6 school to another if you play less than “x” minutes a game (or some other productively metric). Grad transfers and coaching changes would be exceptions.

It will be better for the game if immediate eligibility is reserved for players either going up or going down a level.

So then you’ll have coaches manipulating minutes. No thanks. It’s fine the way it is.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 14, 2022, 05:47:29 PM
Remy Martin is a little different I think since he was a grad transfer, no? In any case, they need to put in a provision that you can only get immediate eligibility going from one P6 school to another if you play less than “x” minutes a game (or some other productively metric). Grad transfers and coaching changes would be exceptions.

It will be better for the game if immediate eligibility is reserved for players either going up or going down a level.

So a kid transferring from DePaul to Gonzaga or Pitt to Houston would be going down a level?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 14, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2022/04/14/naia-national-champion-zach-wrightsil-visits-marquette-loyola/7316678001/

Ben Steele article on Zach Wrightsil. I didn't realize that one of Shaka's former players is an assistant at Loyola New Orleans
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: swoopem on April 15, 2022, 08:48:11 AM
Smith

We may already have the guy on the team. I believe Omax is going to have a breakout year next season. If that is the case, we need to upgrade the role filled by Omax this season.

Goose, I respect you as a poster and don’t think I’ve ever challenged or called you out on anything but Omax as a Justin replacement is an absolute joke. I hope you’re right but I do not see it. Omax can barley dribble the ball

If, and that’s a massive if, there’s a replacement already on the roster I think it’s more likely Joplin.

But I don’t see there being a replacement on the roster. Losing Justin sucks. I got no problem with him going pro but if he transfers that’s horrible for the program
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 15, 2022, 08:50:13 AM
Goose, I respect you as a poster and don’t think I’ve ever challenged or called you out on anything but Omax as a Justin replacement is an absolute joke. I hope you’re but but I do not see it. Omax can barley dribble the ball

Did you watch him play last year? He's more than an adequate ball handler.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: swoopem on April 15, 2022, 08:51:06 AM
Did you watch him play last year? He's more than an adequate ball handler.

Every minute of every game
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 15, 2022, 08:55:03 AM
I think OMax has a high ceiling, but I am not expecting him to come close to Justin's level of production next year.  I think the biggest year to year growth will either come from Stevie (because he looked like he was starting to really figure things out at the end of the season), or Kolek (because if he develops even a halfway respectable floater or mid-range game and teams have to respect him for that, it will re-open a lot of the passing lanes that got cut off as the season went along).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 15, 2022, 08:57:50 AM
Every minute of every game

Then you're either very poor at evaluating a very simplistic skill set like dribbling or you have a very selective memory.

He was extremely poor early on in the season but greatly improved as the season progressed. He's not expected to have a guards handle but he's capable of starting a fast break from a defensive rebound and several occasions went coast to coast after a board. He proved himself good off the bounce in the half court as well.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 15, 2022, 09:28:41 AM
In his first year at Marquette, O-Max was a better shooter from two, from three, and from the line than Justin. In terms of ballhandling, he turned it over at a lower rate as well. He was also far more efficient in more minutes. And while it's harder to statistically quantify, he was a much better defender.

O-Max is not as good a rebounder, and age-wise is 10 months and one college year older than Justin at the same point, but I think a reasonably similar improvement is certainly plausible. And if O-Max were to improve from year one to year two at Marquette to a similar degree Justin did, he would likely be a significantly better player next year than Justin was this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 15, 2022, 09:39:18 AM
swoopem

I think a year from now we are going to be on Omax watch in regard to the NBA. As noted by other posters, his ball handling improved a great deal once he slowed himself down. If I were Shaka, I would be focusing on a Omax replacement for this upcoming season rather than a Justin replacement. I firmly believe that he is going to be a very, very good player at MU next season. 

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 15, 2022, 09:42:29 AM
There is a lot to love about Omax game. He certainly has to prove he can put it together but its there.

He can be elite in transition.

Hes got the ability to work the ball into the middle of the paint. Just gotta learn to control himself.

Very good free throw shooter because he has a good stroke. Which I am hoping will help his 3pt% improve. A bigger role and hopefully being a better player will help him get to the line more too.

Im certainly not predicting a 17 and 8 campaign.

But he could really surprise next year. A lot of if's in his game, but all very reasonable if's.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 15, 2022, 10:08:02 AM
swoopem

I think a year from now we are going to be on Omax watch in regard to the NBA. As noted by other posters, his ball handling improved a great deal once he slowed himself down. If I were Shaka, I would be focusing on a Omax replacement for this upcoming season rather than a Justin replacement. I firmly believe that he is going to be a very, very good player at MU next season.

Absolutely agree.  He is incredibly athletic.  Once he develops a little more control and the game slows for him he has a very high ceiling.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 10:50:37 AM
Really fun numbers below from Zach Wrightsil from his Freshman season. I get it...the competition is lower, but there are still a lot of good players around the country outside of D1. Check these numbers out!

"His 632 points scored rank third-most in a single season in Loyola history … Ranks second in program history in assists in a single season with 143 dimes … Tied for third-most rebounds in a single season with 287 boards."

A forward that rebounds and is an exceptional distributor. Pretty similar playing style to Oso but a much wider frame.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on April 15, 2022, 11:18:41 AM
swoopem

I think a year from now we are going to be on Omax watch in regard to the NBA. As noted by other posters, his ball handling improved a great deal once he slowed himself down. If I were Shaka, I would be focusing on a Omax replacement for this upcoming season rather than a Justin replacement. I firmly believe that he is going to be a very, very good player at MU next season.

Not a chance.

I don't completely disagree on your assessment of OMax' abilities, but he is in no way going to be ready by the end of next year. Possibly by after his junior year, but realistically after his senior year. Skills are there, but basketball knowledge has a long way to go.

Realistically, I am hoping for a 12/6 year from him next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 15, 2022, 11:30:40 AM
jockey

I think Omax has a far higher ceiling than Lewis does and that is why I believe he will be weighing his options a year from now. If Lewis is going pro based off of a NBA looking develop him, the same will hold true for Omax. Watching him go coast to coast a couple of times late in the season is all I needed to see on upside potential.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 11:32:28 AM
Not a chance.

I don't completely disagree on your assessment of OMax' abilities, but he is in no way going to be ready by the end of next year. Possibly by after his junior year, but realistically after his senior year. Skills are there, but basketball knowledge has a long way to go.

Realistically, I am hoping for a 12/6 year from him next year.

Ok, now can we all take a second to take this in and appreciate development.

In week 2 of the season there were a lot of people that wanted OMax stapled to the bench and now we are talking about him averaging 12 and 6 next year and considering options towards the NBA in a year, or 2, or 3.

Development at its finest.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 15, 2022, 11:37:00 AM
golden

I did not want him benched, I wanted him to get more playing time from day one. Only a guess, but his numbers this year were based off of playing more or less half of the game. I think 12 and 6 are going to be light in his numbers next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 15, 2022, 11:42:47 AM
Ok, now can we all take a second to take this in and appreciate development.

In week 2 of the season there were a lot of people that wanted OMax stapled to the bench and now we are talking about him averaging 12 and 6 next year and considering options towards the NBA in a year, or 2, or 3.

Development at its finest.
To be fair, at different times there were threads stapling every player to the bench.



 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 15, 2022, 11:48:37 AM
https://twitter.com/dariusjoshuatv/status/1514311512323731466?s=21&t=o8QUSZTsGsd9RKg-i5js6A

Can't believe this interview was missed.    Do not look for a big splash transfer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 15, 2022, 12:14:49 PM
https://twitter.com/dariusjoshuatv/status/1514311512323731466?s=21&t=o8QUSZTsGsd9RKg-i5js6A

Can't believe this interview was missed.    Do not look for a big splash transfer.
Shaka talks recruiting philosophy, high school vs transfer portal.


https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=sOdughIy86x7OicWjbK2RA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=sOdughIy86x7OicWjbK2RA&s=19)

After hearing this, I think Wrightsil will be our only portal addition this year.  If Lewis stays in the draft, his spot might go unfilled.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 15, 2022, 12:21:27 PM
oops
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 15, 2022, 12:24:55 PM
oops

Shaka also said this the day before he hosted the NAIA POTY on campus.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2022, 12:40:45 PM
I hope we make some big splash additions.  If we don't, and especially if Justin leaves, we aren't going to be very good next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Equalizer on April 15, 2022, 12:50:36 PM
https://twitter.com/dariusjoshuatv/status/1514311512323731466?s=21&t=o8QUSZTsGsd9RKg-i5js6A

Can't believe this interview was missed.    Do not look for a big splash transfer.

This is a clip from a much longer interview.  Don't recall if it was posted in the Justin thread or the Recruting thread, as both Justin's declaration and Ben Gold were also discussed.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
https://twitter.com/dariusjoshuatv/status/1514311512323731466?s=21&t=o8QUSZTsGsd9RKg-i5js6A

Can't believe this interview was missed.    Do not look for a big splash transfer.

That's not at all what that interview entailed.

Older big splash transfers like Darryl are definitely possible as Shaka detailed. They just have to be a guy that fits the puzzle and is already developed into someone they align with.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on April 15, 2022, 01:09:16 PM
Goose, I respect you as a poster and don’t think I’ve ever challenged or called you out on anything but Omax as a Justin replacement is an absolute joke. I hope you’re right but I do not see it. Omax can barley dribble the ball

If, and that’s a massive if, there’s a replacement already on the roster I think it’s more likely Joplin.

But I don’t see there being a replacement on the roster. Losing Justin sucks. I got no problem with him going pro but if he transfers that’s horrible for the program
That’s a bad take
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on April 15, 2022, 01:11:57 PM
jockey

I think Omax has a far higher ceiling than Lewis does and that is why I believe he will be weighing his options a year from now. If Lewis is going pro based off of a NBA looking develop him, the same will hold true for Omax. Watching him go coast to coast a couple of times late in the season is all I needed to see on upside potential.
This is a good take.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 15, 2022, 01:12:19 PM
Curbelo to St Johns. Curbelo Alexander backcourt will be....something ?!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 01:28:11 PM
Warren Washington visiting Arizona State on Monday and Tuesday.

Plans to visit Marquette after that.  List now trimmed to 4.

ASU
Marquette
Notre Dame
Buzz A&M
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 15, 2022, 01:58:50 PM
oops

yeah man, like, how dare you.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 15, 2022, 01:59:41 PM
I assume it’s not likely but if we’re able to add Washington and Wrightsil how would everybody be feeling?  Pretty good, I assume?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 15, 2022, 02:00:32 PM
I hope we make some big splash additions.  If we don't, and especially if Justin leaves, we aren't going to be very good next year.

I, too, share this concern.  Not too many programs getting worse, and plenty of them getting better.

I assume it’s not likely but if we’re able to add Washington and Wrightsil how would everybody be feeling?  Pretty good, I assume?

Yes, much better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 15, 2022, 02:04:30 PM
Warren Washington visiting Arizona State on Monday and Tuesday.

Plans to visit Marquette after that.  List now trimmed to 4.

ASU
Marquette
Notre Dame
Buzz A&M

Let's get him! Would be a huge add.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on April 15, 2022, 02:05:48 PM
jockey

I think Omax has a far higher ceiling than Lewis does and that is why I believe he will be weighing his options a year from now. If Lewis is going pro based off of a NBA looking develop him, the same will hold true for Omax. Watching him go coast to coast a couple of times late in the season is all I needed to see on upside potential.

I agree on the upside potential. I just don't think it will all be realized next year. As I said, I am hoping for 12/6. That would put him in a position to be the go-to guy the next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 15, 2022, 02:06:37 PM
I would like to add a tough grad transfer guard as well.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 15, 2022, 02:14:40 PM
I hope we make some big splash additions.  If we don't, and especially if Justin leaves, we aren't going to be very good next year.

Yep. Cause no one left on the roster could possibly improve.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2022, 02:17:10 PM
I assume it’s not likely but if we’re able to add Washington and Wrightsil how would everybody be feeling?  Pretty good, I assume?

Keep Justin, add Ramey and one of Washington (preferably)/Wrightsil and I'm good.

Yep. Cause no one left on the roster could possibly improve.

Nobody said they couldn't.  We'd need about 4 guys to make very big leaps if we lose Justin and don't add a big splash transfer.  I don't see 4 guys making huge jumps happening.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 15, 2022, 02:20:24 PM
Keep Justin, add Ramey and one of Washington (preferably)/Wrightsil and I'm good.

Nobody said they couldn't.  We'd need about 4 guys to make very big leaps if we lose Justin and don't add a big splash transfer.  I don't see 4 guys making huge jumps happening.

Why would we need 4 guys to make very big leaps? 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 15, 2022, 02:24:44 PM
Keep Justin, add Ramey and one of Washington (preferably)/Wrightsil and I'm good.

Nobody said they couldn't.  We'd need about 4 guys to make very big leaps if we lose Justin and don't add a big splash transfer.  I don't see 4 guys making huge jumps happening.

This requires someone players transferring out in the next two weeks. It's not happening.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 15, 2022, 02:27:33 PM
Why would we need 4 guys to make very big leaps?
I don't know if we need *4* to make *very big* leaps, but no question there needs to be a lot of development at most positions.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 15, 2022, 02:28:59 PM
Why would we need 4 guys to make very big leaps?

Because we just saw two starters graduate, plus if Justin leaves... Then that'd be three.  We wouldn't have a returning player on the team that scored more than 7.4 points per game.

If that doesn't concern you at all, I'm not sure what we're even talking about here.  We would 100% be towards the bottom of the BEAST in our current form.

I don't like the somewhat ambiguous use of 'very big leap' because that can't be quantified... but the point still stands.  We might really suck if the players don't improve much from last year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 15, 2022, 02:30:37 PM
Because we just saw two starters graduate, plus if Justin leaves... Then that'd be three.  We wouldn't have a returning player on the team that scored more than 7.4 points per game.

If that doesn't concern you at all, I'm not sure what we're even talking about here.  We would 100% be towards the bottom of the BEAST in our current form.

I don't like the somewhat ambiguous use of 'very big leap' because that can't be quantified... but the point still stands.  We might really suck if the players don't improve much from last year.

Of course they will need to improve. I saw enough last year to feel that improvement can happen. I just don’t think the improvement will need to be all that dramatic.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 02:35:36 PM
I assume it’s not likely but if we’re able to add Washington and Wrightsil how would everybody be feeling?  Pretty good, I assume?

At the end of the day

Kolek/Jones
Jones/Mitchell/Ellis
Prosper/Ross
Wrightsil/Joplin/Gold
Washington/Ighodaro/Itejere

should make you all excited. It would be a roster filled with size, shooting ability, athleticism, experience, youth, defensive willingness, depth, good character, and unknown potential. And some of you (not all) will discount it because you are too selfish to realize how awesome last year was, but six of these players got experience in an NCAA Tournament. Not only that but they were humbled. All experiences can be turned into good experiences.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 15, 2022, 02:44:55 PM
At the end of the day

Kolek/Jones
Jones/Mitchell/Ellis
Prosper/Ross
Wrightsil/Joplin/Gold
Washington/Ighodaro/Itejere

should make you all excited. It would be a roster filled with size, shooting ability, athleticism, experience, youth, defensive willingness, depth, good character, and unknown potential. And some of you (not all) will discount it because you are too selfish to realize how awesome last year was, but six of these players got experience in an NCAA Tournament. Not only that but they were humbled. All experiences can be turned into good experiences.
I'm concerned about size, shooting, and experience heading into next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 15, 2022, 02:48:35 PM
This would probably be the youngest team MU has had in a long time
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 15, 2022, 02:53:09 PM
I did not want him benched, I wanted him to get more playing time from day one. Only a guess, but his numbers this year were based off of playing more or less half of the game. I think 12 and 6 are going to be light in his numbers next year.

I think O-Max can be a darn good player. I hope he has an incredible offseason and is ready to be as good as we think he can be.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 02:53:19 PM
I'm concerned about size, shooting, and experience heading into next year.

Assuming that is what the roster looks like:

Jones, Jones, Kolek, Ross, Joplin, Gold, Mitchell, Ellis, Prosper are all capable of hitting open shots (which Marquette generates a lot of).

Kolek, Prosper, Ighodaro, Washington, Wrightsil would be high minutes guys and all upper-classmen.

Wrightsil (6'6")
Joplin (6'8")
Prosper (6'8")
Itejere (6'9")
Ighodaro (6'9")
Gold (6'11")
Washington (7'0")

and that doesn't include their guards who have size as well. If that's how the roster shakes out they are in a good spot.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2022, 02:54:07 PM
Why would we need 4 guys to make very big leaps?

Because in my opinion we had two players on the roster this past year that were good that you'd want them starting on your team if you want to compete for a conference title and March success (which is where Marquette should be).  And, if Justin leaves, those two guys are gone.  So if you aren't adding any big splash transfers and you didn't really sign any big splash recruits in terms of rankings (who knows what they'll be next year), then in my opinion you need 4 guys to make very big leaps to be where Marquette should be.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 02:55:18 PM
This would probably be the youngest team MU has had in a long time

Perfect. So they can win now and be really good later on.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Johnny B on April 15, 2022, 02:56:16 PM
joplin aint 6"8
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 15, 2022, 02:56:58 PM
joplin aint 6"8

Taller than Lewis who is listed at 6'7" and no one had a problem with his size at MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 15, 2022, 03:07:17 PM
O-Max has a long way to go to become a solid offensive player, it seems to me Joplin can find his shot at anytime. I expect him to be the leading scorer next year if he can play a little more D.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 15, 2022, 03:51:10 PM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1515064663003877385?cxt=HHwWksC-oZXSy4YqAAAA

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Washington State 6-10 sophomore forward Efe Abogidi will go portaling, source told @Stadium
.

Abogidi is a big-time athlete who averaged 8.9 points and 7.2 boards as a freshman, and 8.1 points and 5.8 rebounds this past season.

Should be in high demand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 15, 2022, 03:55:44 PM
joplin aint 6"8

Yes he is
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 15, 2022, 04:03:56 PM
Yes he is

Seeing how our own team lists him as 6'7". And he is visibly shorter than Prosper. I would guess he is max 6'7"

Also it would be nice to see him grab a rebound or two.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 15, 2022, 04:16:04 PM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1515064663003877385?cxt=HHwWksC-oZXSy4YqAAAA

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Washington State 6-10 sophomore forward Efe Abogidi will go portaling, source told @Stadium
.

Abogidi is a big-time athlete who averaged 8.9 points and 7.2 boards as a freshman, and 8.1 points and 5.8 rebounds this past season.

Should be in high demand.

Exactly the type of guy Shaka should be going after given his stated interests. Young + multiple years of eligibility, moldable, athletic, proven high-level big man. Make it happen
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 15, 2022, 04:47:40 PM
BC

I think Joplin is a nice player and will have a solid career at MU. IMO, Omax will be the leading scorer next year, unless a high level transfer comes in. Joplin appears to me to be a year or two away. I think Omax age and experience plays big dividends next season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 15, 2022, 05:13:00 PM
I have no doubt Kam and Joplin can average double figures next season. The question is can they get strong enough and improve enough defensively to play enough minutes to do so. This is clearly a much bigger question for Jop.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 15, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
BC

I think Joplin is a nice player and will have a solid career at MU. IMO, Omax will be the leading scorer next year, unless a high level transfer comes in. Joplin appears to me to be a year or two away. I think Omax age and experience plays big dividends next season.

I thought he had troubles getting shot, no real jump shot, can hit the 3, slow release. No left hand what so ever. Always goes right, do not see it!  Hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 15, 2022, 06:57:18 PM
I thought he had troubles getting shot, no real jump shot, can hit the 3, slow release. No left hand what so ever. Always goes right, do not see it!  Hope I am wrong.

I recall him finishing multiple times with his left hand.

Excuse the phrasing.  :)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 15, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
I was very impressed with his ability to finish with the left hand, and excuse my phrasing.

I thought he went hard to the basket with left hand, apologies again.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 15, 2022, 07:21:18 PM
I was taking about dribbling with his left, 
Yes he can make lefty layups!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 01:57:00 AM
BC

He dribbled with his left hand on the way to finishing with the left hand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 16, 2022, 02:20:44 AM
As of today Stevie Mitchell and David Joplin now follow Zach Wrightsil on Instagram joining Marquette Basketball's official account.

Seems like this is a Done De...actually I'll let someone else say it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: willie warrior on April 16, 2022, 05:41:00 AM
Because we just saw two starters graduate, plus if Justin leaves... Then that'd be three.  We wouldn't have a returning player on the team that scored more than 7.4 points per game.

If that doesn't concern you at all, I'm not sure what we're even talking about here.  We would 100% be towards the bottom of the BEAST in our current form.

I don't like the somewhat ambiguous use of 'very big leap' because that can't be quantified... but the point still stands.  We might really suck if the players don't improve much from last year.
Where is everybody seeing a big leap? Not that we don't have a ton of a leap to make to be competitive.
Remember the UNC massacre? That shows we have along way to go.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: avid1010 on April 16, 2022, 06:04:55 AM
Where is everybody seeing a big leap? Not that we don't have a ton of a leap to make to be competitive.
Remember the UNC massacre? That shows we have along way to go.
So does Baylor minus 5 minutes of unbelievable events, and so did the MU FF team that got crushed by Kansas?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 16, 2022, 06:08:27 AM
Where is everybody seeing a big leap? Not that we don't have a ton of a leap to make to be competitive.
Remember the UNC massacre? That shows we have along way to go.

Thanks, Wooly
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 16, 2022, 06:39:48 AM
Where is everybody seeing a big leap? Not that we don't have a ton of a leap to make to be competitive.
Remember the UNC massacre? That shows we have along way to go.

Who said anything about a big leap?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 16, 2022, 07:21:09 AM
I'm glad Washington plans to visit.  He would be a very nice pickup.

As for Wrightsil, he looks like good culture fit.  I wish he could shoot, because the rest of his game intrigues me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 16, 2022, 09:04:26 AM
Where is everybody seeing a big leap? Not that we don't have a ton of a leap to make to be competitive.
Remember the UNC massacre? That shows we have along way to go.
Have a burger for breakfast
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 16, 2022, 09:05:12 AM
I'm glad Washington plans to visit.  He would be a very nice pickup.

As for Wrightsil, he looks like good culture fit.  I wish he could shoot, because the rest of his game intrigues me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PrPAjBg6Y0I
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 16, 2022, 09:12:07 AM
I hope we make some big splash additions.  If we don't, and especially if Justin leaves, we aren't going to be very good next year.

This may indeed be a step-back year for Shaka like it was at Texas to set his foundation in place. He has said repeatedly since he took the MU job that it's most important to set the culture in the first three years. You don't set a culture by bringing in a slew of transfers every year to play over recruited guys

Obviously MU has needs and slots open but as Shaka said, don't expect big splashes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 16, 2022, 10:07:31 AM
Pretty early to wave the “step-back-year” flags.  COLE is strong.

This may indeed be a step-back year for Shaka like it was at Texas to set his foundation in place. He has said repeatedly since he took the MU job that it's most important to set the culture in the first three years. You don't set a culture by bringing in a slew of transfers every year to play over recruited guys

Obviously MU has needs and slots open but as Shaka said, don't expect big splashes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 16, 2022, 11:01:31 AM
Wrightsil is a big meh from me. Think Washington would be the kind of impact player we need. Let’s hope he makes it to his visit
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 16, 2022, 11:02:08 AM
Pretty early to wave the “step-back-year” flags.  COLE is strong.

Or you just look at what’s returning and what’s coming in and realize a lot has to go right to be a top 5 BE team again.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 16, 2022, 11:39:44 AM
Final expectations for next year's season will be based on how much you think players currently on the roster or already incoming develop and improve.  Just listen to Shaka.

If you think Osa, Keeyan, Gold, OMP and Joplin will be enough up front.   If Kolek, Mitchell, Kam, Sean, Chase, and EE are good enough guards.

  A forward better than Justin is not transferring in.  A big better than Kur is unlikely.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 16, 2022, 11:52:58 AM
Final expectations for next year's season will be based on how much you think players currently on the roster or already incoming develop and improve.  Just listen to Shaka.

If you think Osa, Keeyan, Gold, OMP and Joplin will be enough up front.   If Kolek, Mitchell, Kam, Sean, Chase, and EE are good enough guards.

  A forward better than Justin is not transferring in.  A big better than Kur is unlikely.

The cult of lowered expectations is raising its ugly head around here today.
After a season in which many preached that no one should expect anything because it was a rebuilding/culture building season, now we're being told to expect a step back season and to accept that outgoing players won't be replaced with players of equal or better ability.
Hmmm.
And no, MU is not likely to get a forward better than Lewis in the transfer market, but if "better than Kur" is a bridge too far ... yikes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 16, 2022, 11:59:06 AM
Yeah I think even with just adding ZW with no Justin we will still be a fringe tournament team.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 16, 2022, 12:04:11 PM
The cult of lowered expectations is raising its ugly head around here today.
After a season in which many preached that no one should expect anything because it was a rebuilding/culture building season, now we're being told to expect a step back season and to accept that outgoing players won't be replaced with players of equal or better ability.
Hmmm.
And no, MU is not likely to get a forward better than Lewis in the transfer market, but if "better than Kur" is a bridge too far ... yikes.
I think there will be improvement across the board.   Honestly, I have fewer concerns than I did a year ago, as there are far more knowns.   MU is still going to be vulnerable to the widebody posts and therefore to aggressive offensive rebounding.   
Yes, the two guys who could put the team on their backs and go get a basket are gone.   That is the nature of college basketball.

I was pleased MU finished over .500.  Thank goodness for January.   
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 16, 2022, 12:30:53 PM
The cult of lowered expectations is raising its ugly head around here today.
After a season in which many preached that no one should expect anything because it was a rebuilding/culture building season, now we're being told to expect a step back season and to accept that outgoing players won't be replaced with players of equal or better ability.
Hmmm.
And no, MU is not likely to get a forward better than Lewis in the transfer market, but if "better than Kur" is a bridge too far ... yikes.

1. Oso is already better than Kur. That's why he closed most games out.
2. Wrightsil is likely better than Kur. Even though he is more of a 4/ small ball 5.
3. Lewis is irreplaceable in the transfer market.

We could take a small step back. Losing Lewis lowers the floor of next years team a lot. But the middle range of next years team, is seems similar to this years team.

Somewhere in the high 30s to mid 50's in analytic based measurement. But i will say last years team could have been like 1 games above 0.500 with a little poor luck. Their SQ record was 16-16.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 12:43:58 PM
Oso is better than nobody, soft, does not rebound, Has shown nothing but lay ups and dunks, can not shoot, even if he gains another 10-15 pounds, he has zero instincts to rebound.  He really is a wing physically.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 16, 2022, 12:47:45 PM
Oso is better than nobody, soft, does not rebound, Has shown nothing but lay ups and dunks, can not shoot, even if he gains another 10-15 pounds, he has zero instincts to rebound.  He really is a wing physically.

He has a lot to work on but there's still plenty of upside there.  He also has a nice stroke from the line so I think he can develop a 10-15 foot jumper.  A significant leap from him wouldn't be shocking to me. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 16, 2022, 12:48:25 PM
1. Oso is already better than Kur. That's why he closed most games out.
2. Wrightsil is likely better than Kur. Even though he is more of a 4/ small ball 5.
3. Lewis is irreplaceable in the transfer market.

We could take a small step back. Losing Lewis lowers the floor of next years team a lot. But the middle range of next years team, is seems similar to this years team.

Somewhere in the high 30s to mid 50's in analytic based measurement. But i will say last years team could have been like 1 games above 0.500 with a little poor luck. Their SQ record was 16-16.

1. Oso mostly closed out games because he was a far better FT shooter (74% to 52%).
2.No, Wrightsil is not a 5, even in small ball. He's generously listed at 6'7", 205. OMax will play the 5 before he does,
3. Don't disagree.

But, if losing a player like Justin necessarily lowers a team's floor, we're f*cked. Good programs lose good players every year, sometimes multiple good players, without it automatically meaning a step back. That's the point of recruiting and the transfer portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 12:50:24 PM
BC

Curious, is there any returning player that you think can contribute?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 16, 2022, 12:50:48 PM
Oso is better than nobody, soft, does not rebound, Has shown nothing but lay ups and dunks, can not shoot, even if he gains another 10-15 pounds, he has zero instincts to rebound.  He really is a wing physically.

Nice thing to say about an unselfish, hard-working kid who puts in 60+ hours a week for Marquette.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 16, 2022, 12:59:36 PM
Where is everybody seeing a big leap? Not that we don't have a ton of a leap to make to be competitive.
Remember the UNC massacre? That shows we have along way to go.

Glad you're back to sweating me again.

Stay away from tall buildings, ol' fella.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 01:00:19 PM
I hope we lose a good player every year, that means we have a program. I am surprised that many question how Shaka is going to use the transfer portal. I think he is going to use it effectively by adding 1-2 guys with time left on their contract.

In watching a lot of games this year, it is very apparent to me that there a high number of quality players that were not top 50 recruits. Shaka can use the portal and still build a culture.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:05:26 PM
BC

Curious, is there returning player that you think can contribute?

Kolek has all ability to have the biggest improvement, if not Jones will play more.  Joplin is the most skilled offensively on the team, can he improve on the D and rebound, big question. Prosper will be OK, but has to rebound as well.  Cam can score, he needs to get stronger to play D, not quick.  Mitchell keeps on improving he might be the 2 guard as he can play D.  Both centers
Are weak.  Gold will see the court, can shoot it, can he play D?  Ellis not sure,  Ross can shoot by his stats, but it seems he can play D.  NAIA does not excite me, but need that center!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:07:05 PM
Ross can not shoot sorry
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Johnny B on April 16, 2022, 01:10:38 PM
Nice thing to say about an unselfish, hard-working kid who puts in 60+ hours a week for Marquette.
its describing his game. he didnt say oso is a loser or anything
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:10:56 PM
Nice thing to say about an unselfish, hard-working kid who puts in 60+ hours a week for Marquette.

MU82, it is not the fault of the kid, hope so am wrong, blame Stan for recruiting a kid, in this era of hoops, your center has to do more than Pat Smith did.  I am sure he is a great kid!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 16, 2022, 01:12:03 PM
Ross can not shoot sorry
When Ross signed, Shaka stated…”Chase is a tremendous athlete and he can really shoot it”.  For now, I guess I will take Shaka’s word over yours…..
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 01:12:35 PM
BC

You lost me, what similarities does Oso have with Pat Smith?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2022, 01:15:25 PM
Yeah, pretty sure Oso can put the basketball in Lake Michigan from Bradford Beach, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:16:29 PM
BC

You lost me, what similarities does Oso have with Pat Smith?

Both can not shoot.. Which Oso was as tough as him, maybe one of toughest player MU ever had
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:17:28 PM
Wish
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 01:20:28 PM
BC

I know you know your stuff, but I think you are off base on in regard to Oso shooting ability. I learned a long time ago to watch a guys free throw stroke before determining if he can shoot or not. Oso is as far away in toughness to Smith, that Smith was to Oso shooting ability.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:20:41 PM
When Ross signed, Shaka stated…”Chase is a tremendous athlete and he can really shoot it”.  For now, I guess I will take Shaka’s word over yours…..

Shot 23 percent from 3, Shaka dreaming, a definite slasher, might be the best next year on that, most athletic player next year. Hope I am wrong
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:25:24 PM
BC

I know you know your stuff, but I think you are off base on in regard to Oso shooting ability. I learned a long time ago to watch a guys free throw stroke before determining if he can shoot or not. Oso is as far away in toughness to Smith, that Smith was to Oso shooting ability.

 
Talked to one of the coaches, he stated he can shoot a lick, does not mean he can not improve, he questioned why they recruited him, it is amazing that he can not shoot as he is a good free throw shooter with nice form. Had the opportunity many times to shoot a 15 footer and never took it, confidence?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 16, 2022, 01:28:22 PM
Yeah, pretty sure Oso can put the basketball in Lake Michigan from Bradford Beach, hey?
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/12ca41c5fee764097e29f950a2c4e0c684b69f4c/c=0-90-3165-1878/local/-/media/2018/01/31/WIGroup/Milwaukee/636530195441253946-mcguire-68.JPG)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 01:31:02 PM
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/12ca41c5fee764097e29f950a2c4e0c684b69f4c/c=0-90-3165-1878/local/-/media/2018/01/31/WIGroup/Milwaukee/636530195441253946-mcguire-68.JPG)

Always loved that pick, great PR by Al!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: genious expert on April 16, 2022, 01:31:23 PM
Kolek has all ability to have the biggest improvement, if not Jones will play more.  Joplin is the most skilled offensively on the team, can he improve on the D and rebound, big question. Prosper will be OK, but has to rebound as well.  Cam can score, he needs to get stronger to play D, not quick.  Mitchell keeps on improving he might be the 2 guard as he can play D.  Both centers
Are weak.  Gold will see the court, can shoot it, can he play D?  Ellis not sure,  Ross can shoot by his stats, but it seems he can play D.  NAIA does not excite me, but need that center!

Kam is not quick? I will admit that I don’t pay attention much to individual defense but at least when he has the ball in his hands he looks like the quickest player on the team
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 01:34:28 PM
BC

If one of the current coaches told you that, they should be fired. First for saying that to you and then not challenging the HC on playing the kid. That is extremely harsh opinion and that coach is stealing money from MU for working with a HC they obviously do not see eye to eye with.



Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 16, 2022, 01:38:11 PM
Shot 23 percent from 3, Shaka dreaming, a definite slasher, might be the best next year on that, most athletic player next year. Hope I am wrong
Need a whole lot more info and context about that 23% stat.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 16, 2022, 01:40:50 PM
Shot 23 percent from 3, Shaka dreaming, a definite slasher, might be the best next year on that, most athletic player next year. Hope I am wrong

Read that he shot 35% from deep the year before. The distribution on his team was not good, so he didn't get many open looks as a senior. Both Shaka and his HS coach have praised his shooting ability. That senior year stat in isolation doesn't look great, but I don't think it's necessarily indicative of what he'll be here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 16, 2022, 01:45:01 PM
Read that he shot 35% from deep the year before. The distribution on his team was not good, so he didn't get many open looks as a senior. Both Shaka and his HS coach have praised his shooting ability. That senior year stat in isolation doesn't look great, but I don't think it's necessarily indicative of what he'll be here.
When Ross signed, Shaka stated…”Chase is a tremendous athlete and he can really shoot it”.  For now, I guess I will take Shaka’s word over yours…..

Shaka also praised the shooting abilities of Tyler Kolek.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Phuket MU Fan on April 16, 2022, 01:49:15 PM
I don't see how we can possibly score 50 points a game next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 16, 2022, 01:49:40 PM
Shaka also praised the shooting abilities of Tyler Kolek.
Suspect Tyler’s shooting issues were more about his new role as a PG.  Was not sure whether to pass, continue the dribble/play or shoot the ball. Too much hesitancy as teams were taking away the pass.   He seemed to shoot much better when he looked for the shot.  Context, context, context…..
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 16, 2022, 01:55:08 PM
Suspect Tyler’s shooting issues were more about his new role as a PG.  Was not sure whether to pass, continue the dribble/play or shoot the ball. Too much hesitancy as teams were taking away the pass.   He seemed to shoot much better when he looked for the shot.  Context, context, context…..

Does anyone know Kolek’s numbers on catch-and-shoot 3s vs off-the-dribble?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 16, 2022, 02:01:00 PM
Suspect Tyler’s shooting issues were more about his new role as a PG.  Was not sure whether to pass, continue the dribble/play or shoot the ball. Too much hesitancy as teams were taking away the pass.   He seemed to shoot much better when he looked for the shot.  Context, context, context…..

That and he had a flat shot.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 16, 2022, 02:01:12 PM

Talked to one of the coaches, he stated he can shoot a lick, does not mean he can not improve, he questioned why they recruited him, it is amazing that he can not shoot as he is a good free throw shooter with nice form. Had the opportunity many times to shoot a 15 footer and never took it, confidence?

Ask that coach what they did to ruin his shot then. Because he was plenty capable of taking a face up jump shot in high school all the way out to the three point line. While it wasn't his primary game, he didn't hesitate to take and make those shots when open. While only shooting 26% in high school (13-50), that is substantially better than Justin Lewis in either high school, or his 1st year at MU.

See at 0:54, 2:22, 3:32, 5:46 in the clips below. Solid form, no hesitation on 3's. At 3:04, shooting off the bounce just inside 3-point line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2068pEULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2068pEULU)

So whatever coach told you that, I'm with Goose, that they need to be fired. Because if a coach can't take the form in those videos, and that you see on FT's and improve the shooting, they don't deserve to be coaching major college basketball.

I'd have him shooting at least 1000 shots a day, because he is capable as a shooter and if he develops that aspect of his game he would be an NBA 4, and be able to play for MU opposite an elite post up center. He likely lost a bit of touch when they put muscle on him, but that just means he needs reps to create new muscle memory. Easy fix.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2022, 02:02:44 PM
I don't see how we can possibly score 50 points a game next year.



Which is just fine if we can hold all opponents to 49 pts, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 16, 2022, 02:16:52 PM
I'll actually go one step further than the above post.

Oso reminds me a bid of Juan Anderson at MU. Written off early by a lot of Scoop, but a person who grew in terms of skill development every year, and has the body/athleticism/vision to have a very high ceiling.

The question is when/if he reaches that ceiling. Will take him a little more time to grow into his body, and maintain his underlying skillsets.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 02:19:39 PM
forgetful

If the coach is who I think it is, not a whole of credibility in my book.

As for Oso, I am a long way from writing him off as a player. In addition, judging by playing time that last 10 or so games, Shaka has not written him off.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
BC

If one of the current coaches told you that, they should be fired. First for saying that to you and then not challenging the HC on playing the kid. That is extremely harsh opinion and that coach is stealing money from MU for working with a HC they obviously do not see eye to eye with.

Ex coach, no longer there and was gone before he stated that. Coaches sometimes make mistakes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2022, 02:30:51 PM
Pretty sure that coach doesn't know stink about talent evaluation, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 02:31:30 PM
BC

Not to bust your balls, but was this really a coach or a coach in training?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 16, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
I'd take him ...


@TiptonEdits: BREAKING: Emoni Bates will transfer from Memphis, he told @On3sports.

Story: https://www.on3.com/news/former-top-recruit-emoni-bates-transferring-from-memphis/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 02:34:28 PM
To all the above, I hope I am wrong about Oso because I am tired of playing 3 or 4 on 5.  I want a center that can score a little bit, I do think I am not asking to much from a center. If Kolek does not improve, Jones it seems has an offensive game, then you play 5 on 5.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 02:35:50 PM
Just a question for those who think Shaka is not going to be active in the portal, is he only contacting guys in the portal for appearance sake? TAMU noted two big names last week that Shaka reached out to and they were high level high school recruits. It seems to be silly to contact kids like that if not interested in them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 02:36:16 PM
I'd take him ...


@TiptonEdits: BREAKING: Emoni Bates will transfer from Memphis, he told @On3sports.

Story: https://www.on3.com/news/former-top-recruit-emoni-bates-transferring-from-memphis/

Another skinny big, no thanks
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2022, 02:39:31 PM
Another skinny big, no thanks




You wouldn't take the former #1 high school player in the country, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 02:41:21 PM
4ever

That is beyond belief.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 16, 2022, 02:45:23 PM
Not so fast hoopster, bates came highly anointed since like grade school. Can’t imagine he’s forgotten how to play. Maybe he just needs a couple of years to be humbled a little
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 16, 2022, 02:46:21 PM
real

He is too skinny for hoopster.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 16, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
Another skinny big, no thanks

You’re full of great takes today.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 16, 2022, 03:09:09 PM
Another skinny big, no thanks
He's a wing player.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 16, 2022, 03:11:20 PM
Bates is definitely not a big.

Also, if Shaka is about multi year transfers and guys who are good for the culture, Bates is about as poor of a fit as you could ever find.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 03:49:03 PM
Bates is definitely not a big.

Also, if Shaka is about multi year transfers and guys who are good for the culture, Bates is about as poor of a fit as you could ever find.

Thank you
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 16, 2022, 03:52:38 PM
Thank you

You’re thanking wades for saying you were wrong about Bates being a big?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on April 16, 2022, 04:18:51 PM
You’re thanking wades for saying you were wrong about Bates being a big?
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Yes no whatever,  Bates is way overrated and skinny as ever, plays the 2 guard at times and a wing.  Plays like he thinks he is a star, Penny did not think so and benched him.  If MU had a lot openings, sure, but they do not and remember everybody is almost back the following year, might only have one opening right now, which means transfers out could happen as it sounds like there on 3 or 4 kids right now in 2023
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bilsu on April 16, 2022, 04:39:27 PM
Or you just look at what’s returning and what’s coming in and realize a lot has to go right to be a top 5 BE team again.
We had an amazing and unexpected run in the Big East after an 0-3 start. I am not sure how I should figure that into next seasons expectations. I think on paper the big East is weaker next year, but I am not sure we can duplicate the run we had before last season's fade.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 16, 2022, 06:13:38 PM
Another skinny big, no thanks

Bates is as much a big as he is a point guard.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 16, 2022, 08:18:47 PM
Yes no whatever,  Bates is way overrated and skinny as ever, plays the 2 guard at times and a wing.  Plays like he thinks he is a star, Penny did not think so and benched him.  If MU had a lot openings, sure, but they do not and remember everybody is almost back the following year, might only have one opening right now, which means transfers out could happen as it sounds like there on 3 or 4 kids right now in 2023

Over 3 years, Penny has taken 2 #1 overall classes, and 4 top 10 recruits, 3 top 50 recruits, and another 2 top 100 guys and  very good transfer in Landers Nolley and made 1 NCAA tourney (wouldn't have made it in the cancelled year) and never finished higher than 3rd in a mid major conference.  I'm not going to with his player development and in season moves as a trump card.  Its not Calipari we're talking about here.  Would not be shocked to see Bates thrive elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 16, 2022, 08:49:11 PM
When do we think Wrightsil commits?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUDPT on April 16, 2022, 09:32:57 PM
Oso is better than nobody, soft, does not rebound, Has shown nothing but lay ups and dunks, can not shoot, even if he gains another 10-15 pounds, he has zero instincts to rebound.  He really is a wing physically.

68% from the floor, 74% from the line and nationally ranked in OR% and Block%.  This is a weird take.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 16, 2022, 10:23:04 PM
Myles Burns, the second best player on Loyola New Orleans, the same team as Zach Wrightsil just committed to Ole Miss.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 17, 2022, 08:53:39 AM
Myles Burns, the second best player on Loyola New Orleans, the same team as Zach Wrightsil just committed to Ole Miss.
With two D1 players it helps explain why L-NO  won the NAIA National championship
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 17, 2022, 10:02:20 PM
He wont be on MU's radar and is testing the NBA waters, but assuming he's not going to go to the draft, very interested to see the destination for Kenneth Lofton Jr from La Tech.  I watched him a decent bit last year cause he was on the US U-19 team.  He's got a bit of Davante in him.  6'7 and chunky, plays completely under the rim, but just finds ways to score.  I don't think there is any way he gets favorable NBA feedback, so he'll be in the portal.  16.5 and 10.5 in CUSA is one thing, interested to see him play P6.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 17, 2022, 10:30:00 PM
He wont be on MU's radar and is testing the NBA waters, but assuming he's not going to go to the draft, very interested to see the destination for Kenneth Lofton Jr from La Tech.  I watched him a decent bit last year cause he was on the US U-19 team.  He's got a bit of Davante in him.  6'7 and chunky, plays completely under the rim, but just finds ways to score.  I don't think there is any way he gets favorable NBA feedback, so he'll be in the portal.  16.5 and 10.5 in CUSA is one thing, interested to see him play P6.

I think Houston might be his final spot. Easier frontlines, but still bigtime basketball. And a possible 1 seed next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: muguru on April 18, 2022, 11:16:36 AM
Matthew Bain
@MatthewBain_
Iowa State point guard Tyrese Hunter is expected to release a statement later today, his high school coach tells me.

The Cyclones’ freshman star has been at the heart of transfer portal rumors lately, but nothing official so far.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 18, 2022, 11:35:11 AM
Matthew Bain
@MatthewBain_
Iowa State point guard Tyrese Hunter is expected to release a statement later today, his high school coach tells me.

The Cyclones’ freshman star has been at the heart of transfer portal rumors lately, but nothing official so far.

I guess he is leaving for NIL money. Hope its there for him. I don't think he is draft worthy. Can't shoot well enough.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 11:37:16 AM
I guess he is leaving for NIL money. Hope its there for him. I dont think he is draft worthy. Can't shoot well enought.
The big rumor was to North Carolina.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 18, 2022, 11:38:26 AM
Here's a chance for the Scoopers who were adamant that Hunter's a must-get for Marquette to step up and provide some hundreds of thousands of NIL $$$.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TedBaxter on April 18, 2022, 11:48:55 AM
Here's a chance for the Scoopers who were adamant that Hunter's a must-get for Marquette to step up and provide some hundreds of thousands of NIL $$$.

No room at the inn.  I was a big supporter of Tyrese before he committed to ISU, but don't think he would be on the radar anymore.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 18, 2022, 12:07:47 PM
Hunter is in the portal.


https://twitter.com/hunter_tyrese/status/1516099808297107460?t=mBCpTPQBASoKiGdsD4JxSA&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/hunter_tyrese/status/1516099808297107460?t=mBCpTPQBASoKiGdsD4JxSA&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 18, 2022, 12:17:52 PM
No room at the inn.  I was a big supporter of Tyrese before he committed to ISU, but don't think he would be on the radar anymore.

Agreed.  I really liked Hunter coming out of HS, but Kolek and Sean Jones are Shaka's PGs.  Plus, Dai Dai Ames is a priority recruit for 2023.  I think the roster has bigger needs in the frontcourt, with Warren Washington the main focus.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Markusquette on April 18, 2022, 12:20:44 PM
Agreed.  I really liked Hunter coming out of HS, but Kolek and Sean Jones are Shaka's PGs.  Plus, Dai Dai Ames is a priority recruit for 2023.  I think the roster has bigger needs in the frontcourt, with Warren Washington the main focus.

Is Shaka & MU connected with Washington?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2022, 12:24:50 PM
Tell Mitchell to hit the road, aina’ no room at the inn bring tyrese home
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 18, 2022, 12:35:48 PM
Tell Mitchell to hit the road, aina’ no room at the inn bring tyrese home

I dont know if MU alums can justify low six figures in NIL money for a guard who shoots like Kolek.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2022, 12:37:40 PM
I dont know if MU alums can justify low six figures in NIL money for a guard who shoots like Kolek.

We have to correct this Wojo mistake asap
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 12:40:24 PM
Tell Mitchell to hit the road, aina’ no room at the inn bring tyrese home

No.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 12:42:27 PM
Is Shaka & MU connected with Washington?

Yes. Marquette is in Washington's final 4 along with Texas A&M, Notre Dame, and Arizone State(who he is visiting today and tomorrow).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: oldwarrior81 on April 18, 2022, 12:55:03 PM
Is Shaka & MU connected with Washington?

I saw this list last week:

The 7-foot center is focused on three SEC schools (Arkansas, Florida and LSU), three more power-conference schools (Marquette, Notre Dame, Arizona State) and the Mountain West school San Diego State.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 18, 2022, 12:56:58 PM
Here's a chance for the Scoopers who were adamant that Hunter's a must-get for Marquette to step up and provide some hundreds of thousands of NIL $$$.
How does one go about doing this?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 18, 2022, 12:58:06 PM
Tell Mitchell to hit the road, aina’ no room at the inn bring tyrese home

It'll be a big-time green weenie if Hunter goes anywhere else.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 01:03:28 PM
How does one go about doing this?


1. Start a company
2. Profit
3. Hire Tyrese to be your brand ambassador
4. Profit a little less, but be happy that you are helping Marquette basketball.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2022, 01:05:23 PM
I'd be happy with Ramey, Hunter, and Washington joining MUBB.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 01:06:39 PM
I'd be happy with Ramey, Hunter, and Washington joining MUBB.

Pretty sure that a couple of these guys could go off scholarship and Shaka could adopt them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 01:12:53 PM
I'd be happy with Ramey, Hunter, and Washington joining MUBB.

Along with Justin returning right?

Hahahahaa
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 18, 2022, 01:20:00 PM
Time for a head count.
1.  Wrightsil
2.  Keeyan
3.  Oso
4.  Gold
5.  OMP
6.  Joplin
7.  Ellis
8.  Jones
9.  Jones
10. Ross
11.  Mitchell
12.  Kolek

If Justin returns (doubtful), no available scholarships.
If Justin departs (probable) one opening.
Unless somebody leaves.

I don't see any way for there to be 3 more transfers in.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 18, 2022, 01:24:31 PM
Time for a head count.
1.  Wrightsil
2.  Keeyan
3.  Oso
4.  Gold
5.  OMP
6.  Joplin
7.  Ellis
8.  Jones
9.  Jones
10. Ross
11.  Mitchell
12.  Kolek

If Justin returns (doubtful), no available scholarships.
If Justin departs (probable) one opening.
Unless somebody leaves.

I don't see any way for there to be 3 more transfers in.

Our last scholarship will be Justin Lewis, Warren Washington, or vacant barring a perfect fit big leaving his school at the end of the month.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2022, 01:26:08 PM
Pretty sure that a couple of these guys could go off scholarship and Shaka could adopt them.

Exactly.

Along with Justin returning right?

Hahahahaa

Would love that to happen as well.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: shoothoops on April 18, 2022, 01:29:34 PM
Yuri Collins from SLU has entered the transfer portal. He led the country in assists. There have been a lot of Tenessee rumors lately.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 01:32:26 PM
Yuri Collins from SLU has entered the transfer portal. He led the country in assists. There have been a lot of Tenessee rumors lately.


Anyone with a name that sounds even remotely Russian shouldn't be contacted.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 18, 2022, 01:38:04 PM

Anyone with a name that sounds even remotely Russian shouldn't be contacted.

Not to mention a guy coming from SLU. Would have an extremely difficult time making the jump from low major to high major.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
I'd take the Russian National Team doped up and transferring in from SLU if it meant winning big at this point.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on April 18, 2022, 01:42:19 PM
These player social media transfer/declaring announcements have become a riot this year.

"All the love in the world to the fans and my teammantes, thank you for always supporting me and being part of the family. Thank you Coach XXXXXX and the staff for pushing me to be the best player I could become. To the fans of XXXXX University, I love you and appreciate the support, I'm blessed to forever be (insert team mascot). That said, I'm leaving your university to go play elsewhere."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 18, 2022, 01:44:12 PM
These player social media transfer/declaring announcements have become a riot this year.

"All the love in the world to the fans and my teammantes, thank you for always supporting me and being part of the family. Thank you Coach XXXXXX and the staff for pushing me to be the best player I could become. To the fans of XXXXX University, I love you and appreciate the support, I'm blessed to forever be (insert team mascot). That said, I'm leaving your university to go play elsewhere."

Also the announcement starts addresses to XXXXX Nation
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 18, 2022, 01:45:22 PM
I had not picked up on all the porn references.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: asdfasdf on April 18, 2022, 01:46:01 PM
Tyrese Hunter has to be going to Virginia right?

IIRC, the announcers during the tournament said that Tony Bennett texts with Hunter occasionally. They even said that Bennett told Hunter to stat at Iowa State, which I thought was odd at the time. Regardless of where Hunter ends up going, if I were Otzelberger I would be pretty bothered by Bennett talking to my players.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 01:47:19 PM
Tyrese Hunter has to be going to Virginia right?

IIRC, the announcers during the tournament said that Tony Bennett texts with Hunter occasionally. They even said that Bennett told Hunter to stat at Iowa State, which I thought was odd at the time. Regardless of where Hunter ends up going, if I were Otzelberger I would be pretty bothered by Bennett talking to my players.


It will be UNC.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 18, 2022, 01:48:49 PM
I thought at one point Coach Calipari had an interest in Tyrese
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 18, 2022, 01:51:41 PM
Tyrese Hunter has to be going to Virginia right?

IIRC, the announcers during the tournament said that Tony Bennett texts with Hunter occasionally. They even said that Bennett told Hunter to stat at Iowa State, which I thought was odd at the time. Regardless of where Hunter ends up going, if I were Otzelberger I would be pretty bothered by Bennett talking to my players.

Dont think Virginia can offer the bag UNC can.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: asdfasdf on April 18, 2022, 01:52:10 PM

It will be UNC.

Got it.

Well, between Leaky Black and Tyrese Hunter, Armando Bacot will have no shortage of ORebs to grab next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 02:04:48 PM
Tyrese Hunter has to be going to Virginia right?

IIRC, the announcers during the tournament said that Tony Bennett texts with Hunter occasionally. They even said that Bennett told Hunter to stat at Iowa State, which I thought was odd at the time. Regardless of where Hunter ends up going, if I were Otzelberger I would be pretty bothered by Bennett talking to my players.

UNC
Virginia
Florida
Wisconsin

would be my guess. Rumors of UNC forking over big NIL last week, but rumors can be pretty far fetched. We shall see.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 18, 2022, 02:15:16 PM
UNC
Virginia
Florida
Wisconsin

would be my guess. Rumors of UNC forking over big NIL last week, but rumors can be pretty far fetched. We shall see.

It will not be this school. There is nothing to suggest it would be.


Also, expect NIL programs to be involved. Louisville, Memphis, and Kansas.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 18, 2022, 02:18:44 PM
And the rich, get richer,hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 18, 2022, 02:22:00 PM

1. Start a company
2. Profit
3. Hire Tyrese to be your brand ambassador
4. Profit a little less, but be happy that you are helping Marquette basketball.
Do they actually have to do any work for you or can you just cut them a check? Does that check run through the Athletic Dept or does it go right to the player?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 18, 2022, 02:26:25 PM
And the rich, get richer,hey?

Rite a chek, nu?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on April 18, 2022, 02:29:09 PM

Also, expect NIL programs to be involved. Louisville, Memphis, and Kansas.

It'll definitely be somewhere with big NIL opportunities, and I doubt Wisconsin offers much more opportunity than Iowa St. in that realm.  Memphis boosters probably have a lot of freed-up cash with Emoni Bates leaving. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: swoopem on April 18, 2022, 02:35:25 PM
I get that UNC is dropping a bag for him but from a basketball standpoint it doesn’t make much sense. Isn’t RJ Davis coming back? I also haven’t see Caleb Love announce his decision.

Again, I get getting paid but there might not be a lot of minutes at UNC. The grass ain’t always greener (no pun intended)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on April 18, 2022, 02:54:24 PM
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Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bilsu on April 18, 2022, 03:06:30 PM
We have to correct this Wojo mistake asap
Had he signed with MU he may of jumped ship just like he is doing at Iowa St.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 03:08:02 PM
Tyrese Hunter has to be going to Virginia right?

IIRC, the announcers during the tournament said that Tony Bennett texts with Hunter occasionally. They even said that Bennett told Hunter to stat at Iowa State, which I thought was odd at the time. Regardless of where Hunter ends up going, if I were Otzelberger I would be pretty bothered by Bennett talking to my players.


Actually let me say that I completely forgot that Tyrese's HS coach is Tony Bennett's cousin. So you may be completely right here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 03:18:48 PM

Actually let me say that I completely forgot that Tyrese's HS coach is Tony Bennett's cousin. So you may be completely right here.

I'd be surprised if it were Virginia or Wisconsin but I think they'll get a chance.

Hunter has NBA aspirations and Virginia and Wisconsin just do not fit the type of player Hunter is. He's best in open space using his speed and quickness and neither of those programs allow you to do that.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 18, 2022, 03:20:10 PM
Garcia is a Gopher.    Stunning no one.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 18, 2022, 03:21:53 PM
"I am a homegrown kid, I got a lot of love for this state..." That is why i played for two better schools outside of this state before coming back.


https://247sports.com/Article/North-Carolina-transfer-and-former-McDonalds-All-American-Dawson-Garcia-will-transfer-home-to-play-for-Minnesota-186377817/

I hope it works out for him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Warrior of Law on April 18, 2022, 03:24:32 PM
Of last year's HS graduating class from the state of Wisconsin:

1. Baldwin (played sparingly for UWM; going pro)
2. Hunter (transfer portal from Iowa St.)
3. Joplin (Marquette)
4. Podziemski (transfer portal from Illinois)
5. Landers (transfer portal from Kansas St)

MU likely came out best with Joplin.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on April 18, 2022, 03:29:09 PM
Garcia is a Gopher.    Stunning no one.

Is it just assumed that he's granted a waiver to play right away? 

This one is an interesting case study.  One one hand, I get that he left UNC for family reasons, so the waiver is easier to justify, especially when transferring to a hometown school.  On the other hand, does that open up the floodgate for two-time transfers heading back to their hometown schools for "family reasons"?  Could the NCAA say he's not eligible until, say, halfway through the season, since he played roughly half of last season?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2022, 03:30:42 PM
I'd be surprised if it were Virginia or Wisconsin but I think they'll get a chance.

Hunter has NBA aspirations and Virginia and Wisconsin just do not fit the type of player Hunter is. He's best in open space using his speed and quickness and neither of those programs allow you to do that.

Johnny Davis did fine at Wisconsin being at his best in space.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 18, 2022, 03:32:35 PM
Is it just assumed that he's granted a waiver to play right away? 

This one is an interesting case study.  One one hand, I get that he left UNC for family reasons, so the waiver is easier to justify, especially when transferring to a hometown school.  On the other hand, does that open up the floodgate for two-time transfers heading back to their hometown schools for "family reasons"?  Could the NCAA say he's not eligible until, say, halfway through the season, since he played roughly half of last season?

This is what first time transfers were doing for the past 10 years to get waivers. He will get one. Going to Minnesota ensures it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 18, 2022, 03:34:28 PM
Is it just assumed that he's granted a waiver to play right away? 

This one is an interesting case study.  One one hand, I get that he left UNC for family reasons, so the waiver is easier to justify, especially when transferring to a hometown school.  On the other hand, does that open up the floodgate for two-time transfers heading back to their hometown schools for "family reasons"?  Could the NCAA say he's not eligible until, say, halfway through the season, since he played roughly half of last season?

I'd be flat out stunned if he doesnt get the waiver
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 03:40:01 PM
Johnny Davis did fine at Wisconsin being at his best in space.

He has to be one of the most overhyped prospects in some time.  He shot 30% from 3, 42% from the field, he's not overly big for a guard, and a solid finisher but not overly explosive.  Wisconsin didn't give him the ability to freely push the pace and he was better in the halfcourt taking advantage of mismatches.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 03:49:22 PM
He has to be one of the most overhyped prospects in some time.  He shot 30% from 3, 42% from the field, he's not overly big for a guard, and a solid finisher but not overly explosive.  Wisconsin didn't give him the ability to freely push the pace and he was better in the halfcourt taking advantage of mismatches.


He's a lottery pick with holes in his game.  Every year's draft has players just like that.  I wouldn't call him overhyped at all.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 03:52:17 PM

He's a lottery pick with holes in his game.  Every year's draft has players just like that.  I wouldn't call him overhyped at all.

I understand why he is a valued prospect but there are a lot of players in mocks behind him that I like a lot better. He was pretty terrible to close the year and like you said has a ton of holes in his game. I get it though, potential.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 18, 2022, 03:57:56 PM
Is it just assumed that he's granted a waiver to play right away? 

This one is an interesting case study.  One one hand, I get that he left UNC for family reasons, so the waiver is easier to justify, especially when transferring to a hometown school.  On the other hand, does that open up the floodgate for two-time transfers heading back to their hometown schools for "family reasons"?  Could the NCAA say he's not eligible until, say, halfway through the season, since he played roughly half of last season?

I'm curious about this as well.  I thought part of the free one time transfer thing was to eliminate all the waiver silliness. 

I know it sucks for Dawson having family issues but it seems like it would open a door into the NCAA now granting two free transfers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on April 18, 2022, 04:01:41 PM
UNC
Virginia
Florida
Wisconsin

would be my guess. Rumors of UNC forking over big NIL last week, but rumors can be pretty far fetched. We shall see.

I'm certain that Kamari is texting Tyrese trying to get him to UW.  They've played together since they were babies practically.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 04:04:31 PM
I'm certain that Kamari is texting Tyrese trying to get him to UW.  They've played together since they were babies practically.
Don't they play the same position in college?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 04:15:05 PM
I'm curious about this as well.  I thought part of the free one time transfer thing was to eliminate all the waiver silliness. 

I know it sucks for Dawson having family issues but it seems like it would open a door into the NCAA now granting two free transfers.
Is he even academically eligible? Granted it was UNC, but wondering if he did all of this semester's courses online?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on April 18, 2022, 04:21:22 PM
I'm curious about this as well.  I thought part of the free one time transfer thing was to eliminate all the waiver silliness. 

I know it sucks for Dawson having family issues but it seems like it would open a door into the NCAA now granting two free transfers.

I can’t think of one good reason to give Garcia a waiver. I apologize if this comes off as being insensitive as it’s not my intent but the great majority of people lose their grandparents at some point between their teenage years and their mid twenties. I’ll just call it like it is… he likely left because his role was diminishing at UNC. If there are still persistent family issues, then the NCAA should do him a favor and make him sit so he can spend more time with them. If Garcia is allowed to play, then you might as well just get rid of the waiver rule.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2022, 04:22:44 PM
I'm certain that Kamari is texting Tyrese trying to get him to UW.  They've played together since they were babies practically.

Badger honk Evan Flood already shot this down
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2022, 04:23:43 PM
Don't they play the same position in college?

Plus I think they retain a PG from last year that they really like. I assume the McGee relationship will at least get them a visit, but I would be really surprised if Hunter went there.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 18, 2022, 04:25:47 PM
I can’t think of one good reason to give Garcia a waiver. I apologize if this comes off as being insensitive as it’s not my intent but the great majority of people lose their grandparents at some point between their teenage years and their mid twenties. I’ll just call it like it is… he likely left because his role was diminishing at UNC. If there are still persistent family issues, then the NCAA should do him a favor and make him sit so he can spend more time with them. If Garcia is allowed to play, then you might as well just get rid of the waiver rule.

I'd have no problem getting rid of the waiver rule.

Beyond that, I hope that Dawson's family will get no more bad news, and I wish him success at Minnesota.

I also hope the hole in your heart heals quickly.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 04:37:45 PM
I'd have no problem getting rid of the waiver rule.
Yes. Just put buyout clauses in their deals, both ways. You want to transfer, you owe the school the cost of tuition for the number of years of eligibility remaining. You want to cut a player, fine, pay the player that same amount.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 18, 2022, 04:40:07 PM
I can’t think of one good reason to give Garcia a waiver. I apologize if this comes off as being insensitive as it’s not my intent but the great majority of people lose their grandparents at some point between their teenage years and their mid twenties. I’ll just call it like it is… he likely left because his role was diminishing at UNC. If there are still persistent family issues, then the NCAA should do him a favor and make him sit so he can spend more time with them. If Garcia is allowed to play, then you might as well just get rid of the waiver rule.

How many also have their dad almost die a couple months earlier?

And not to mention, a ton of students transfer home after loved ones either die, or fall ill, when they realize time with family is important. Those students get to transfer without punishment.

His should be an automatic waiver to play right away.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Spirit Of James on April 18, 2022, 04:44:21 PM
Ex-MU recruit Rocket Watts back to the portal again.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 18, 2022, 05:08:37 PM
Yes. Just put buyout clauses in their deals, both ways. You want to transfer, you owe the school the cost of tuition for the number of years of eligibility remaining. You want to cut a player, fine, pay the player that same amount.

Student athletes aren't employees.
Source: The NCAA
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 05:47:54 PM
Student athletes aren't employees.
Source: The NCAA
Stident athletes at private universities are emoloyees under the NLRA. Jennifer Ambruzzo-NLRB.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 18, 2022, 06:10:40 PM
Stident athletes at private universities are emoloyees under the NLRA. Jennifer Ambruzzo-NLRB.

By the definition/case memo they used. All students are also employees.

So if students decide to transfer, should they still have to pay all their tuition? And if they are kicked out of school, should the schools have to pay them the entire cost of tuition?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 18, 2022, 06:19:27 PM
Yes. Just put buyout clauses in their deals, both ways. You want to transfer, you owe the school the cost of tuition for the number of years of eligibility remaining. You want to cut a player, fine, pay the player that same amount.

I'd have absolutely no problem with that as long as you pay them a real salary. Guess they'll need to form a union and collectively bargain for all this stuff.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 06:43:48 PM
I'd have absolutely no problem with that as long as you pay them a real salary. Guess they'll need to form a union and collectively bargain for all this stuff.
I agree.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 06:44:57 PM
By the definition/case memo they used. All students are also employees.

So if students decide to transfer, should they still have to pay all their tuition? And if they are kicked out of school, should the schools have to pay them the entire cost of tuition?
If before.they start they signed a contract to do so. Yes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 06:49:12 PM
If before.they start they signed a contract to do so. Yes.


Your solution is a step backwards.  Every school that loses a player to transfer is seeking to get one from somewhere else.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 18, 2022, 06:56:10 PM
If before.they start they signed a contract to do so. Yes.

Why would anyone sign that contract?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on April 18, 2022, 07:00:58 PM
I'm curious about this as well.  I thought part of the free one time transfer thing was to eliminate all the waiver silliness. 

I know it sucks for Dawson having family issues but it seems like it would open a door into the NCAA now granting two free transfers.

This was my perception as well. I thought the one free transfer eliminated the need for a waiver, but a second transfer wouldn’t have the option for a waiver.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 07:05:19 PM
Why would anyone sign that contract?
If we are talking athletes, its obvious. Student Athlete employees could bargain for the length of their contract, buyputs etc. Non athletes they wouldnt sign that, but that wasnt my hypothetical.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 18, 2022, 07:07:59 PM
If we are talking athletes, its obvious. Student Athlete employees could bargain for the length of their contract, buyputs etc. Non athletes they wouldnt sign that, but that wasnt my hypothetical.


Why would any school offer anything but the sweetest deal possible to get somewhere there?  "We really want you here, but are insisting on this buy-out clause."  Who's going to say that?  The whole idea makes no sense. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on April 18, 2022, 07:35:18 PM
I understand why he is a valued prospect but there are a lot of players in mocks behind him that I like a lot better. He was pretty terrible to close the year and like you said has a ton of holes in his game. I get it though, potential.

I think with Davis, it’s at least 50/50 that he’s already reached his ceiling.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 18, 2022, 07:35:29 PM

Why would any school offer anything but the sweetest deal possible to get somewhere there?  "We really want you here, but are insisting on this buy-out clause."  Who's going to say that?  The whole idea makes no sense.
School A offers a 1 year 200K deal, no buyout clause. School B offers a 3 year 1 million deal, with a buyout of having to pay 200 K back for each year left on the contract. Many would take offer B. Sure, some schools might be fine with everyone of their players being 1 year free agents. I would guess most wouldnt.

Why would a coach have a buyout clause?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on April 18, 2022, 07:37:57 PM
Has Joey entered the portal yet?  👀
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 18, 2022, 07:45:07 PM
I can’t think of one good reason to give Garcia a waiver. I apologize if this comes off as being insensitive as it’s not my intent but the great majority of people lose their grandparents at some point between their teenage years and their mid twenties. I’ll just call it like it is… he likely left because his role was diminishing at UNC. If there are still persistent family issues, then the NCAA should do him a favor and make him sit so he can spend more time with them. If Garcia is allowed to play, then you might as well just get rid of the waiver rule.

I think he left because he wanted to go back home and figured leaving mid season gave him best chance to get a waiver. He may have had some family stuff going on, but this was always the plan.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 18, 2022, 08:19:03 PM

His plan did not go over well with his NC teammate’s apparently

 https://youtu.be/3jkwtOJIqS8
 (https://youtu.be/3jkwtOJIqS8)

I think he left because he wanted to go back home and figured leaving mid season gave him best chance to get a waiver. He may have had some family stuff going on, but this was always the plan.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2022, 09:01:39 PM
I'd have no problem getting rid of the waiver rule.

Beyond that, I hope that Dawson's family will get no more bad news, and I wish him success at Minnesota.

I also hope the hole in your heart heals quickly.

Joey bad, Dawson good. Even though Dawson has bailed on two schools, one midway through the season after getting paid. Hmmm….

Couldn’t come up within an immature nickname for Dawson?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 18, 2022, 09:02:29 PM
Joey bad, Dawson good. Even though Dawson has bailed on two schools, one midway through the season after getting paid. Hmmm….

Couldn’t come up within an immature nickname for Dawson?

Billy is risen! An Easter miracle!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2022, 09:50:20 PM
Joey bad, Dawson good. Even though Dawson has bailed on two schools, one midway through the season after getting paid. Hmmm….

Couldn’t come up within an immature nickname for Dawson?

100% correct. The best thing that can be said about Garcia is that he made 2 programs much better - by leaving. UNC was a one and done NIT team with him, a national runner up without him. He saw the handwriting on the wall and left. Of course I feel bad for him because his Grandpa died but he didn’t leave until it was clear he was becoming an afterthought for UNC.

He every bit as “soft serve” as Joey, but Mike will never call him out. His vendetta only is directed at one flavor.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 18, 2022, 10:00:29 PM
Why would anyone here direct any invective toward DG? I've been assured that Shaka didn't want him anyway.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2022, 10:04:26 PM
Why would anyone here direct any invective toward DG? I've been assured that Shaka didn't want him anyway.

By whom?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 18, 2022, 10:14:10 PM
By whom?

I'm not going to call out individual posters, some of whom I actually respect. You're welcome to use the search function.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 18, 2022, 10:20:50 PM
Joey bad, Dawson good. Even though Dawson has bailed on two schools, one midway through the season after getting paid. Hmmm….

Couldn’t come up within an immature nickname for Dawson?

100% correct. The best thing that can be said about Garcia is that he made 2 programs much better - by leaving. UNC was a one and done NIT team with him, a national runner up without him. He saw the handwriting on the wall and left. Of course I feel bad for him because his Grandpa died but he didn’t leave until it was clear he was becoming an afterthought for UNC.

He every bit as “soft serve” as Joey, but Mike will never call him out. His vendetta only is directed at one flavor.


Dawson Garcia did not actively work to undermine a potentially outstanding Marquette season.

But if you boys want to think he’s “bad” and that poor, misunderstood Vanilla Soft Serve was an innocent victim of The Cancer and The Worst Coach Ever, that’s your right.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 19, 2022, 03:31:38 AM
Well then, I'm exercising my right, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 19, 2022, 05:19:34 AM
BTW, Nads why are you able to go untouched referring to Joey Hauser in such a racist manner, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 05:21:36 AM
Yes
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 19, 2022, 06:49:20 AM
His plan did not go over well with his NC teammate’s apparently

 https://youtu.be/3jkwtOJIqS8
 (https://youtu.be/3jkwtOJIqS8)

I was going to post that clip if you didn’t.  His teammates don’t seem the least bit concerned about him or the fact that he’d left. 

Here’s a question:  Does UNC make the run they did in the tournament with Garcia on the team?  I don’t think so.  Now if that ain’t actively undermining a potentially great season, I don’t know what is.

Garcia was a typical Wojo guy.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 07:09:53 AM
I was going to post that clip if you didn’t.  His teammates don’t seem the least bit concerned about him or the fact that he’d left. 

Here’s a question:  Does UNC make the run they did in the tournament with Garcia on the team?  I don’t think so.  Now if that ain’t actively undermining a potentially great season, I don’t know what is.

Garcia was a typical Wojo guy.

What’s a typical Wojo guy?  Was Sacar Anim a typical Wojo guy?  Andrew Rowsey?  Matt Heldt?  Joey Hauser?  Theo John?  Markus Howard?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 07:11:50 AM
One constant with regards to the transfer portal:

The guys you bring in aren’t problems or quitters but the guys that leave usually get that tag. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 19, 2022, 07:48:26 AM
82

I have no idea what type of person Garcia is and would not speculate on that. His departure from the program was a non-event in my life because I felt Shaka can run the program, with or without Garcia. I have been disappointed when guys have left the program but never a felt a need to attack them. I have found your need to belittle Joey for a couple of years to be strange behavior and your nickname for him I thought was childish. Actually, it was so childish that it did not pick up steam with other anti Joey guys and that was telling to me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on April 19, 2022, 08:12:32 AM
82

I have no idea what type of person Garcia is and would not speculate on that. His departure from the program was a non-event in my life because I felt Shaka can run the program, with or without Garcia. I have been disappointed when guys have left the program but never a felt a need to attack them. I have found your need to belittle Joey for a couple of years to be strange behavior and your nickname for him I thought was childish. Actually, it was so childish that it did not pick up steam with other anti Joey guys and that was telling to me.

The difference is that Joey actively worked against the team before he left.

I have no problem with guys leaving over a personal reason or even just because they assume the grass is greener somewhere else. In fact, I support those decisions.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 19, 2022, 08:15:33 AM
BTW, Nads why are you able to go untouched referring to Joey Hauser in such a racist manner, hey?

The left fiscally moderate/social liberal ( ::) ::) ::)) can't be racist, because they aren't racist.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 19, 2022, 08:24:57 AM
You got to love white guys who call out other white guys for being racist to other white guys.  Moderate, Liberal or Conservative every one in this argument comes off as a Jack ass. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 08:53:06 AM
The left fiscally moderate/social liberal ( ::) ::) ::)) can't be racist, because they aren't racist.

I hate old, white people, so I am very racist
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on April 19, 2022, 08:57:31 AM
I hate old, white people, so I am very racist

What have I ever done to you, bro? I really try to hide my whiteness!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Equalizer on April 19, 2022, 09:02:05 AM
Didn't see this one coming. Tyrese Hunter in the portal:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33761822/iowa-state-cyclones-point-guard-tyrese-hunter-enters-transfer-portal-standout-freshman-season (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33761822/iowa-state-cyclones-point-guard-tyrese-hunter-enters-transfer-portal-standout-freshman-season)

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2022, 09:04:54 AM
I have no idea what type of person Garcia is and would not speculate on that. His departure from the program was a non-event in my life because I felt Shaka can run the program, with or without Garcia. I have been disappointed when guys have left the program but never a felt a need to attack them. I have found your need to belittle Joey for a couple of years to be strange behavior and your nickname for him I thought was childish.

Although I disagree with those who choose to dump on Dawson Garcia after members of his family died and got seriously ill (that's not you, Goose), I defend their right to do so in this forum.

I view Vanilla Soft Serve with the same "love" that I view his one-time tormentor, Floppy McNutpuncher. Except one could argue that VSS did more damage to the Marquette program.

We all can be childish sometimes. Probably even you.

His teammates don’t seem the least bit concerned about him or the fact that he’d left. 

How "concerned" did the remaining MU players act after VSS and his brother left?

BTW, Nads why are you able to go untouched referring to Joey Hauser in such a racist manner, hey?

You got to love white guys who call out other white guys for being racist to other white guys.

Nuttin' wurse den wite-on-wite cryme, oona?

Meanwhile, back in the transfer portal ...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 19, 2022, 09:31:04 AM
Need a whole lot more info and context about that 23% stat.

A bit more info, and clearing up the information I had...Chase Ross shot 37.5% from three in EYBL play. So when playing with and against the best, his shooting was significantly better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 12:50:19 PM
"Nevada transfer Warren Washington tells me that he has committed to Arizona State."

-Rothstein

He cancelled his visits with Marquette, Notre Dame, and Texas A&M.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 19, 2022, 12:51:45 PM
"Nevada transfer Warren Washington tells me that he has committed to Arizona State."

-Rothstein

He cancelled his visits with Marquette, Notre Dame, and Texas A&M.

You can't cancel something that wasn't scheduled
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 19, 2022, 12:53:10 PM
What’s a typical Wojo guy?  Was Sacar Anim a typical Wojo guy?  Andrew Rowsey?  Matt Heldt?  Joey Hauser?  Theo John?  Markus Howard?
A non traditional
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 12:53:51 PM
You can't cancel something that wasn't scheduled

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 19, 2022, 01:12:50 PM


Its semantics, but hes right.

A "plan" to show up somwhere at some random point in time isnt a scheduled visit.

No visit has been cancelled, Washington has just unforunately chosen he will not schedule a visit and take said visit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 19, 2022, 01:13:54 PM
Ouch
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 01:14:45 PM
More green wieners
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 01:17:02 PM
With Washington gone I still think a scoring guard is the biggest need.

Prosper, Joplin, Itejere, Ighodaro, Gold, Wrightsil is a lot of fire power up front.

I assume that last spot is Justin's until he says it's not though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 19, 2022, 01:19:58 PM
As I said earlier, I think Wrightsil is our only addition.  Last spot will be Lewis or open.

Then sign 3 HS players in the fall, anticipating at least one transfer next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 01:21:19 PM
As I said earlier, I think Wrightsil is our only addition.  Last spot will be Lewis or open.

Then sign 3 HS players in the fall, anticipating at least one transfer next year.

They are going to add someone.  Whether it's Justin or someone else there is no reason not to add a Transfer of some kind with 1 year left to provide another body.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 19, 2022, 01:23:25 PM
With Washington gone I still think a scoring guard is the biggest need.

Prosper, Joplin, Itejere, Ighodaro, Gold, Wrightsil is a lot of fire power up front.

I assume that last spot is Justin's until he says it's not though.
You don't see enough size, versatility and scoring from the 6 guards on the roster or committed?   I will take a wide body banger, if possible.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 01:27:36 PM
You don't see enough size, versatility and scoring from the 6 guards on the roster or committed?   I will take a wide body banger, if possible.

Guards win in March and they have 1 guy of the 6 that can go get a bucket, that's Kam..and even he doesn't really create his own shot.  That leaves a hopeful Sean Jones as the 1 guy on the roster that can create for themselves.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2022, 01:32:40 PM
Guards win in March and they have 1 guy of the 6 that can go get a bucket, that's Kam..and even he doesn't really create his own shot.  That leaves a hopeful Sean Jones as the 1 guy on the roster that can create for themselves.

I tend to agree. Even though Morsell's offensive inconsistency was maddening at times -- maddening even for Shaka, who benched him several times -- when he was on he was able to get himself a good look whenever he wanted. Lewis also could do that sometimes.

Maybe if O-Max continues to develop we'll be able to say the same about him next season. Maybe Kam? Maybe Wrightsil?

But right now, if Lewis leaves, we'll have zero players who have shown the ability to do that at a Big East level unless Shaka brings in a transfer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 01:41:15 PM
I tend to agree. Even though Morsell's offensive inconsistency was maddening at times -- maddening even for Shaka, who benched him several times -- when he was on he was able to get himself a good look whenever he wanted. Lewis also could do that sometimes.

Maybe if O-Max continues to develop we'll be able to say the same about him next season. Maybe Kam? Maybe Wrightsil?

But right now, if Lewis leaves, we'll have zero players who have shown the ability to do that at a Big East level unless Shaka brings in a transfer.

I actually am comfortable with the size on the roster right now.

Gold 6'11"
Oso 6'9"
Itejere 6'9"
OMax 6'8"
Joplin 6'7" or 6'8"
Wrightsil 6'7"

That's more depth up front than we had last year as far as size and bodies go. Morsell could get his own shot as you mentioned.

Look at the Final 4 teams:

UNC has Love and Davis
Duke: Roach, Keel, Moore
Kansas: Braun, Martin, Agbaji
Villanova: Gillespie

Baylor last year: Mitchell and Butler

To win in March you need guards that can get their own baskets. We have plenty that can create for others at the moment.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 19, 2022, 01:51:08 PM
"Nevada transfer Warren Washington tells me that he has committed to Arizona State."

-Rothstein

He cancelled his visits with Marquette, Notre Dame, and Texas A&M.
Great we have room for Tyrese now
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 02:11:13 PM
Great we have room for Tyrese now

He would be a great fit. Only problem is Shaka probably won't recruit over Mitchell, Ellis, Ross. Can't say I disagree with him either. He's building a brand in a basketball world where everybody is looking for the next best opportunity. That brand is loyalty and family.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 02:13:03 PM
He would be a great fit. Only problem is Shaka probably won't recruit over Mitchell, Ellis, Ross. Can't say I disagree with him either. He's building a brand in a basketball world where everybody is looking for the next best opportunity. That brand is loyalty and family.

He’s not coming here anyway, so it’s a pointless discussion
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
He’s not coming here anyway, so it’s a pointless discussion

😂
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 19, 2022, 02:22:29 PM
Good players want to play for a winning brand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 19, 2022, 02:28:34 PM
They are going to add someone.  Whether it's Justin or someone else there is no reason not to add a Transfer of some kind with 1 year left to provide another body.

Heck, I'm still not convinced everyone is staying.  Should know more as the end of semester gets closer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 02:37:43 PM
Saw it suggested on Twitter a handful of times that people are speculating Tyrese Hunter and Patrick Baldwin Jr. may try to team up.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 19, 2022, 02:39:51 PM
Has anyone seen any Courtney Ramey updates?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 19, 2022, 02:45:46 PM
Saw it suggested on Twitter a handful of times that people are speculating Tyrese Hunter and Patrick Baldwin Jr. may try to team up.

Actual credible CBB people speculating?  Or just random people saying it cause they have AAU history?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
Actual credible CBB people speculating?  Or just random people saying it cause they have AAU history?

I saw it first from a scout for prepshoopsMI. Just speculation, but other people have ran with it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2022, 02:55:34 PM
Heck, I'm still not convinced everyone is staying.  Should know more as the end of semester gets closer.

Good point, rocky.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2022, 03:36:54 PM
Has anyone seen any Courtney Ramey updates?

Villanova seems to be the early favorite
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2022, 05:09:18 PM
Villanova seems to be the early favorite

Ugh
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 19, 2022, 05:17:28 PM
Villanova seems to be the early favorite

Since we’re the “new Villanova”…
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: muguru on April 19, 2022, 05:17:45 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
WSU transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering following programs:

Texas
Texas A&M
Zona
UF
UCF
UW
OU
Gonzaga
Miss St
Creighton
UK
VT
UH
GT
Marq
Wake
S Carolina
MD
Memphis
Oregon
Oregon St
PSU
Ole Miss
SF
K St
Nevada
Iowa
ISU
Missouri
Bama St
Xavier
WVU
LSU
LMU
LT
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Johnny B on April 19, 2022, 05:20:30 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
WSU transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering following programs:

Texas
Texas A&M
Zona
UF
UCF
UW
OU
Gonzaga
Miss St
Creighton
UK
VT
UH
GT
Marq
Wake
S Carolina
MD
Memphis
Oregon
Oregon St
PSU
Ole Miss
SF
K St
Nevada
Iowa
ISU
Missouri
Bama St
Xavier
WVU
LSU
LMU
LT
always nice to make the top 40
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 19, 2022, 05:23:10 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
WSU transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering following programs:

Texas
Texas A&M
Zona
UF
UCF
UW
OU
Gonzaga
Miss St
Creighton
UK
VT
UH
GT
Marq
Wake
S Carolina
MD
Memphis
Oregon
Oregon St
PSU
Ole Miss
SF
K St
Nevada
Iowa
ISU
Missouri
Bama St
Xavier
WVU
LSU
LMU
LT

This is hilarious.  There is something like 358 schools in D1. A visit per day and he will have his list narrowed down on this date next year so he can play in '23-'24.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 05:30:21 PM
I’d take him in a heartbeat
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 19, 2022, 05:37:50 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
WSU transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering following programs:

Texas
Texas A&M
Zona
UF
UCF
UW
OU
Gonzaga
Miss St
Creighton
UK
VT
UH
GT
Marq
Wake
S Carolina
MD
Memphis
Oregon
Oregon St
PSU
Ole Miss
SF
K St
Nevada
Iowa
ISU
Missouri
Bama St
Xavier
WVU
LSU
LMU
LT

According to this article In the Washington State fan site, Foreign Players are not eligible for NIL. That could help our cause
https://www.cougcenter.com/2022/4/16/23027744/wsu-cougars-efe-abogidi-transfer-portal
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 19, 2022, 06:56:55 PM
I’d take him in a heartbeat

Might as well. The program's already Efe-d.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 19, 2022, 07:03:45 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
WSU transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering following programs:

Texas
Texas A&M
Zona
UF
UCF
UW
OU
Gonzaga
Miss St
Creighton
UK
VT
UH
GT
Marq
Wake
S Carolina
MD
Memphis
Oregon
Oregon St
PSU
Ole Miss
SF
K St
Nevada
Iowa
ISU
Missouri
Bama St
Xavier
WVU
LSU
LMU
LT





Woodant it just bin eazier to list da skools he izant considerin', hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 19, 2022, 07:40:17 PM
According to this article In the Washington State fan site, Foreign Players are not eligible for NIL. That could help our cause
https://www.cougcenter.com/2022/4/16/23027744/wsu-cougars-efe-abogidi-transfer-portal

Believe they sell apparel with all of the players names except OMax for this reason.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 19, 2022, 07:41:55 PM
Believe they sell apparel with all of the players names except OMax for this reason.

That’s an odd rule.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 19, 2022, 07:43:39 PM
Oops looks like I am mistaken. OMax is on there now. He wasn’t there originally.

https://spiritshop.marquette.edu/category-s/212.htm
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 19, 2022, 07:56:57 PM
I actually am comfortable with the size on the roster right now.

Gold 6'11"
Oso 6'9"
Itejere 6'9"
OMax 6'8"
Joplin 6'7" or 6'8"
Wrightsil 6'7"


That's more depth up front than we had last year as far as size and bodies go. Morsell could get his own shot as you mentioned.

Look at the Final 4 teams:

UNC has Love and Davis
Duke: Roach, Keel, Moore
Kansas: Braun, Martin, Agbaji
Villanova: Gillespie

Baylor last year: Mitchell and Butler

To win in March you need guards that can get their own baskets. We have plenty that can create for others at the moment.

Not a single one of those big men have a high major track record of rebounding or defending well in the post. Maybe Omax but that’s it. Doesn’t mean they can’t become that player but none are proven and that doesn’t inspire much confidence.

Given Washington was seemingly a top priority as well as reaching out to agobidi, it appears Shaka would agree.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 19, 2022, 08:14:54 PM
I’d take him in a heartbeat
hmm…so he’s not from Shiocton?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2022, 08:20:02 PM
DePaul’s David Jones has entered the portal.  Big loss for the Demons
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 19, 2022, 08:49:40 PM
DePaul’s David Jones has entered the portal.  Big loss for the Demons
Maybe he believed in a Daydream that he could upgrade

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xvqeSJlgaNk
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 19, 2022, 09:04:27 PM
Maybe he believed in a Daydream that he could upgrade

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xvqeSJlgaNk

Jones just Monkeed around with DePaul and used them as a Stepping Stone.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2022, 09:24:58 PM
DePaul’s David Jones has entered the portal.  Big loss for the Demons

Woof. Thought they could weather the loss of Freeman-Liberty but not if Jones is leaving too
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 19, 2022, 09:31:25 PM
Jones just Monkeed around with DePaul and used them as a Stepping Stone.

Just Took the Last Train from Clark St.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2022, 10:49:41 PM




Woodant it just bin eazier to list da skools he izant considerin', hey?

We agree, Bubala!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MDMU04 on April 20, 2022, 09:20:59 AM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
WSU transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering following programs:
...

You all think Rothstein sat there writing that tweet and actually consciously thought to himself "Man, this is great information that people need to know"?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 20, 2022, 09:55:48 AM
Kofi leaves Illinois to go pro. Signs with agent, and announces intent to forego remaining college eligibility.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kofi-cockburn-declares-for-2022-nba-draft-illinois-star-big-man-forgoing-remaining-eligibility-to-enter-pros/

Based on mock drafts I've seen, he'll be selected after Lewis, if at all.

Crazy to think that not all that long ago, a guy with his height and skillset probably would have been a lottery pick.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: zcg2013 on April 20, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Joey Hauser is returning to MSU for his Covid year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 20, 2022, 11:42:09 AM
Efe cut his list to 12 and MU is on it. Down from 35 to 12.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1516818978282299396?s=20&t=Bub3fkC3crveRBR4kQFc4A
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 20, 2022, 11:51:59 AM
Dis dude's da missin' peace, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 20, 2022, 11:57:14 AM
Joey Hauser is returning to MSU for his Covid year.

Noted awhile ago and being discussed in the Superbar's Hauser thread.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JTJ3 on April 20, 2022, 12:09:52 PM
Efe cut his list to 12 and MU is on it. Down from 35 to 12.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1516818978282299396?s=20&t=Bub3fkC3crveRBR4kQFc4A

Plays a lot like the 5's Shaka always had at Texas
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 20, 2022, 12:15:21 PM
Dis dude's da missin' peace, aina?
Efe looks like a promising prospect. Was in NBA Global Academy in Australia prior to Washington State.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 20, 2022, 12:41:50 PM
Plays a lot like the 5's Shaka always had at Texas

Absolutely - the Shaka prototype. Young and moldable but already proven at high major level, tall, slender, plays solid D, dunks everything, can jump out of the gym. Solid advanced stats too, would love him here
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 20, 2022, 01:22:37 PM
Told a friend even before the season ended that Efe Abogidi would be the ideal transfer target for Marquette. Hopefully Shaka can seal the deal, a few heavy hitters in that final 12.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Markusquette on April 20, 2022, 01:25:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LglgZZR9q88
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 20, 2022, 01:30:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LglgZZR9q88
Here is some in game action for Efi. Gives a good feel for what he does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV6HCyoTJ2o
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 20, 2022, 01:44:12 PM
Using everyone's favorite predictive tool, Torvik's "RosterCast", adding Efe to next years squad moves us from 50 to 35. That's a big time impact.

For context, here are some others we've been in contact with (assuming Lewis is gone):

Nigel Pack - 50 to 34
Warren Washington - 50 to 37
Aimaq - 50 to 37
Ramey - 50 to 44
Manny Bates - 50 to 44
Tyrese Hunter - no change
Hopkins - 50 to 51


Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 20, 2022, 01:45:26 PM
Using everyone's favorite predictive tool, Torvik's "RosterCast", adding Efe to next years squad moves us from 50 to 35. That's a big time impact.

For context, here are some others we've been in contact with (assuming Lewis is gone):

Nigel Pack - 50 to 34
Warren Washington - 50 to 37
Aimaq - 50 to 37
Ramey - 50 to 44
Manny Bates - 50 to 44
Tyrese Hunter - no change
Hopkins - 50 to 51

They've contacted Hunter?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 20, 2022, 01:47:19 PM
They've contacted Hunter?

No, but some scoopers have suggested it
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 20, 2022, 01:55:22 PM
No, but some scoopers have suggested it
Gery Woelful, the scribe from Racine, wrote that UW and MU have shown interest in Hunter.  Hunter’s HS teammate just transferred to UW from UW-GB
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Goose on April 20, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
Nukem

I think Woelful does his homework and I find him to be a reliable source.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 20, 2022, 02:04:32 PM
Nukem

I think Woelful does his homework and I find him to be a reliable source.

I don't know about that. On NBA matters his track record is abysmal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: withoutbias on April 20, 2022, 02:11:17 PM
I don't know about that. On NBA matters his track record is abysmal.

Yeah I don't know what college and high school hoop connections he has, but he was always an NBA writer and the Bucks removed his press pass from him.  Even after that The Fan kept him as their "Bucks Insider."  He was as bad as it gets.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 20, 2022, 02:12:23 PM
Nukem

I think Woelful does his homework and I find him to be a reliable source.

He’s terrible and should be sent to an island with no access to the internet
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 20, 2022, 02:13:51 PM
Using everyone's favorite predictive tool, Torvik's "RosterCast", adding Efe to next years squad moves us from 50 to 35. That's a big time impact.

For context, here are some others we've been in contact with (assuming Lewis is gone):

Nigel Pack - 50 to 34
Warren Washington - 50 to 37
Aimaq - 50 to 37
Ramey - 50 to 44
Manny Bates - 50 to 44
Tyrese Hunter - no change
Hopkins - 50 to 51

Reading this made me legit spit take.  So freaking good
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 20, 2022, 02:15:13 PM
He’s terrible and should be sent to an island with no access to the internet
Well that’s true.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 20, 2022, 02:15:14 PM
He’s terrible and should be sent to an island with no access to the internet

I mean, he's in Racine so why give him an upgrade?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 🏀 on April 20, 2022, 02:32:38 PM
Using everyone's favorite predictive tool, Torvik's "RosterCast", adding Efe to next years squad moves us from 50 to 35. That's a big time impact.

For context, here are some others we've been in contact with (assuming Lewis is gone):

Nigel Pack - 50 to 34
Warren Washington - 50 to 37
Aimaq - 50 to 37
Ramey - 50 to 44
Manny Bates - 50 to 44
Tyrese Hunter - no change
Hopkins - 50 to 51




It's too bad we don't want Efe because his school list is too long.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 20, 2022, 02:36:11 PM
With RosterCast, they don't even need to play the games anymore....



Using everyone's favorite predictive tool, Torvik's "RosterCast", adding Efe to next years squad moves us from 50 to 35. That's a big time impact.

For context, here are some others we've been in contact with (assuming Lewis is gone):

Nigel Pack - 50 to 34
Warren Washington - 50 to 37
Aimaq - 50 to 37
Ramey - 50 to 44
Manny Bates - 50 to 44
Tyrese Hunter - no change
Hopkins - 50 to 51
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 20, 2022, 02:51:40 PM
Using everyone's favorite predictive tool, Torvik's "RosterCast", adding Efe to next years squad moves us from 50 to 35. That's a big time impact.

For context, here are some others we've been in contact with (assuming Lewis is gone):

Nigel Pack - 50 to 34
Warren Washington - 50 to 37
Aimaq - 50 to 37
Ramey - 50 to 44
Manny Bates - 50 to 44
Tyrese Hunter - no change
Hopkins - 50 to 51

What's the bump with Wrightsil?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 20, 2022, 02:52:39 PM
What's the bump with Wrightsil?

Doesn't keep track of NAIA players
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 20, 2022, 02:55:12 PM
Doesn't keep track of NAIA players

Well aware. I don't use teal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 20, 2022, 02:56:05 PM
Told a friend even before the season ended that Efe Abogidi would be the ideal transfer target for Marquette. Hopefully Shaka can seal the deal, a few heavy hitters in that final 12.

Love Efe. He was stuck in a really deep rotation at Wsu so playing time was an issue. Would be great if he somehow landed here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 20, 2022, 02:56:59 PM
Well aware. I don't use teal.

Keep those knee slappers coming
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 20, 2022, 02:58:23 PM
Love Efe. He was stuck in a really deep rotation at Wsu so playing time was an issue. Would be great if he somehow landed here.

I'd also like him here, but if we're putting our hopes on kids who can't get lost in a minutes game at Washington State...woof.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 20, 2022, 03:02:09 PM
What's the bump with Wrightsil?

Marquette was 60th before the Wrightsil commit.  Wrightsil is now included in the projection at 50, so he was worth 10 spots.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 20, 2022, 03:03:42 PM
I'd also like him here, but if we're putting our hopes on kids who can't get lost in a minutes game at Washington State...woof.

You say that like Washington State is a bad team.

He played a decent amount of minutes but they rotated four bigs during games. He’s more than capable of being a 27-32 minute guy and he wasnt getting that at WSU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 20, 2022, 03:09:29 PM
You say that like Washington State is a bad team.

He played a decent amount of minutes but they rotated four bigs during games. He’s more than capable of being a 27-32 minute guy and he wasnt getting that at WSU.
Did Efe and Ben Gold play together/against each other at the NBA Global Academy?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 20, 2022, 03:17:57 PM
Did Efe and Ben Gold play together/against each other at the NBA Global Academy?

No. He and omax know each other through the program though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 20, 2022, 03:20:30 PM
No. He and omax know each other through the program though.
Thanks. Like this dunk by him:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYMBRQtlFfY/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYMBRQtlFfY/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 20, 2022, 03:21:22 PM
You say that like Washington State is a bad team.

He played a decent amount of minutes but they rotated four bigs during games. He’s more than capable of being a 27-32 minute guy and he wasnt getting that at WSU.

He also didn't get "lost".  He was 4th on the team in minutes, most of any big guy.  The other 4 leading minutes guys in the top 5 were guards.  They played a lot of 4 out, 1 in.  WSU had Gueye who was a top 100 big as a freshman this year, plus Jackson, guys they wanted to get minutes as well.  Efe still played over 20 min a game.  Its not like he couldn't see the floor on a terrible team,  WSU only had 2 mediocre losses in the PAC12.  The conference was just deep and they were youngish
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 20, 2022, 03:32:30 PM
He also didn't get "lost".  He was 4th on the team in minutes, most of any big guy.  The other 4 leading minutes guys in the top 5 were guards.  They played a lot of 4 out, 1 in.  WSU had Gueye who was a top 100 big as a freshman this year, plus Jackson, guys they wanted to get minutes as well.  Efe still played over 20 min a game.  Its not like he couldn't see the floor on a terrible team,  WSU only had 2 mediocre losses in the PAC12.  The conference was just deep and they were youngish

I never said lost.

He just rotated with two/three other guys. He’s more than capable of playing big minutes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 20, 2022, 03:43:51 PM
Efe yeah ... let's get this efeyin' guy!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 20, 2022, 03:58:27 PM
I never said lost.

He just rotated with two/three other guys. He’s more than capable of playing big minutes.

Sorry, I meant Wade's comment about getting lost.  I was agreeing with you that his minutes weren't due to lack of ability
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 20, 2022, 04:07:38 PM
Efe yeah ... let's get this efeyin' guy!

Tell him we'll change the name of the university to Efe U.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 20, 2022, 04:11:45 PM
Sorry, I meant Wade's comment about getting lost.  I was agreeing with you that his minutes weren't due to lack of ability

Yep no worries. He most certainly wasn't lost and WSU wasn't some also ran team in the P12 either.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 20, 2022, 04:29:16 PM
Yep no worries. He most certainly wasn't lost and WSU wasn't some also ran team in the P12 either.

Washington State wasn't the Washington State of the past, but I struggle to label them as a good team last season. They made it through the regular season with 0 Q1 wins, only 1 Q2A win (which was one spot off from being Q2B), and some really questionable home losses. They finished 11-9 in conference but they went 0-4 against Arizona, UCLA, and USC (the only 3 NCAAT teams in P12), 2-2 against Colorado and Oregon (finished in the 70s for NET), and 9-3 against Arizona State, Stanford, Washington, Utah, California, and Oregon State (finished with triple digit NET ranks). They got lucky only having to play Arizona and UCLA once each during the regular season. They won the conference schedule lottery.

All that being said, I would LOVE Efe on our roster next season
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 20, 2022, 04:37:54 PM
Washington State wasn't the Washington State of the past, but I struggle to label them as a good team last season. They made it through the regular season with 0 Q1 wins, only 1 Q2A win (which was one spot off from being Q2B), and some really questionable home losses. They finished 11-9 in conference but they went 0-4 against Arizona, UCLA, and USC (the only 3 NCAAT teams in P12), 2-2 against Colorado and Oregon (finished in the 70s for NET), and 9-3 against Arizona State, Stanford, Washington, Utah, California, and Oregon State (finished with triple digit NET ranks). They got lucky only having to play Arizona and UCLA once each during the regular season. They won the conference schedule lottery.

All that being said, I would LOVE Efe on our roster next season

I didn't label them as a good team. I said they weren't an also ran as wades alluded to.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 20, 2022, 04:42:19 PM
Keep those knee slappers coming

Wasn't meant to be knee slapping. Just slapping out at Scoopers like yourself who think that this MU team, even with these two potential additions, will be a better team as of today without two All Big East players (and potential NBAers), plus Super Seniors in Kur and Elliott. Scoop talent evaluation hasn't historically been very good, which is humorous I guess.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 20, 2022, 05:53:38 PM
No. He and omax know each other through the program though.

Are you sure there was no overlap? Abogidi wouldn't have enrolled at Wazzu until Summer 2020, and the first Gold highlight reel I found from the NBA Academy was June 17, 2020, indicating Gold was playing before then.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 20, 2022, 06:08:53 PM
Wasn't meant to be knee slapping. Just slapping out at Scoopers like yourself who think that this MU team, even with these two potential additions, will be a better team as of today without two All Big East players (and potential NBAers), plus Super Seniors in Kur and Elliott. Scoop talent evaluation hasn't historically been very good, which is humorous I guess.

Lmao @ lashing out and just blatantly making things up. What are you, 5?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on April 20, 2022, 07:28:17 PM
Villanova seems to be the early favorite

Hope this is no longer the case. Ramey would be a good fit here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 20, 2022, 10:28:46 PM
Lmao @ lashing out and just blatantly making things up. What are you, 5?

#ThaHoundknowsball
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Milkshakes on April 21, 2022, 09:25:51 AM
Using everyone's favorite predictive tool, Torvik's "RosterCast", adding Efe to next years squad moves us from 50 to 35. That's a big time impact.

For context, here are some others we've been in contact with (assuming Lewis is gone):

Nigel Pack - 50 to 34
Warren Washington - 50 to 37
Aimaq - 50 to 37
Ramey - 50 to 44
Manny Bates - 50 to 44
Tyrese Hunter - no change
Hopkins - 50 to 51

Do these numbers assume Justin is at Marquette?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 21, 2022, 09:29:38 AM
Do these numbers assume Justin is at Marquette?
The poster says…assuming Lewis is gone….
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 21, 2022, 01:08:27 PM
#ThaHoundknowsball

That's more like it
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 21, 2022, 01:09:42 PM
Do these numbers assume Justin is at Marquette?

No, as our current roster stands (aka with Justin out) Torvik ranks us #50 51 as of today.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 21, 2022, 01:29:07 PM
MU has not reached out to Emoni Bates, for some reason.

https://www.on3.com/news/memphis-transfer-emoni-bates-drawing-interest-from-10-schools/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 21, 2022, 02:28:18 PM
MU has not reached out to Emoni Bates, for some reason.

https://www.on3.com/news/memphis-transfer-emoni-bates-drawing-interest-from-10-schools/

I think that was expected. Didnt he quit on Memphis halfway through the year? Not to mention he was expected to be a 1 and done. No need for him here with the culture Shaka is building.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Johnny B on April 21, 2022, 02:30:57 PM
blah blah blah culture. dont giv that shallow excuse to not go for the kid
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 21, 2022, 02:33:02 PM
blah blah blah culture. dont giv that shallow excuse to not go for the kid

Are you serious?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 21, 2022, 02:58:12 PM
blah blah blah culture. dont giv that shallow excuse to not go for the kid

LOL

Well, this is stupid
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 21, 2022, 03:00:47 PM
I think that was expected. Didnt he quit on Memphis halfway through the year? Not to mention he was expected to be a 1 and done. No need for him here with the culture Shaka is building.

He played in the NCAA Tournament and isn’t old enough to be eligible for this year’s NBA Draft.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 21, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
He played in the NCAA Tournament and isn’t old enough to be eligible for this year’s NBA Draft.

And?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 21, 2022, 03:09:45 PM
And?
He didn't quit, and it is impossible for him to be a one and done.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 21, 2022, 03:23:02 PM
He didn't quit, and it is impossible for him to be a one and done.

The point is that he is EXPECTED to be whenever possible. Meaning he still probably has plans to bolt ASAP.

This is a quote from February:

"Sources: Emoni Bates will not play in Memphis' game at Cincinnati on Thursday, as his future with the program has suddenly come into question. Bates has been projected as a 2023 NBA Draft prospect and had previous contact with OTE and overseas opportunities."

He was 1st committed to Michigan State, then switched to Memphis where he left the program and was welcomed back.

Marquette has less than 0 reasons to want him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 21, 2022, 03:28:21 PM
The point is that he is EXPECTED to be whenever possible. Meaning he still probably has plans to bolt ASAP.

This is a quote from February:

"Sources: Emoni Bates will not play in Memphis' game at Cincinnati on Thursday, as his future with the program has suddenly come into question. Bates has been projected as a 2023 NBA Draft prospect and had previous contact with OTE and overseas opportunities."

He was 1st committed to Michigan State, then switched to Memphis where he left the program and was welcomed back.

Marquette has less than 0 reasons to want him.
Emoni Bates might miss Memphis basketball's game at Cincinnati on Thursday (6 p.m., ESPN2), but don't correlate the freshman's possible absence to his standing within the program, his father told The Commercial Appeal.

Elgin Bates batted down a Bleacher Report report published late Tuesday that suggested his son's status with the Tigers had "suddenly come into question." The report cited anonymous sources.

"I have no clue what that's about," Elgin Bates said in a text message. "(Emoni) has an appointment to see a specialist back home about his back. He's been having pain the past three weeks and we're going to figure out what's going on."

Elgin Bates confirmed his son won't play against Cincinnati "unless he's cleared to play." When The Commercial Appeal asked Bates whether there are any plans for Emoni Bates to leave the Memphis program, he said, "no plans at all
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 21, 2022, 03:34:03 PM
Emoni Bates might miss Memphis basketball's game at Cincinnati on Thursday (6 p.m., ESPN2), but don't correlate the freshman's possible absence to his standing within the program, his father told The Commercial Appeal.

Elgin Bates batted down a Bleacher Report report published late Tuesday that suggested his son's status with the Tigers had "suddenly come into question." The report cited anonymous sources.

"I have no clue what that's about," Elgin Bates said in a text message. "(Emoni) has an appointment to see a specialist back home about his back. He's been having pain the past three weeks and we're going to figure out what's going on."

Elgin Bates confirmed his son won't play against Cincinnati "unless he's cleared to play." When The Commercial Appeal asked Bates whether there are any plans for Emoni Bates to leave the Memphis program, he said, "no plans at all

So let's start the tally:

1) He wants to get out of College Hoops ASAP
2) He has injury questions
3) He shot 38% last year
4) He'd take playing time away from actual program building blocks like Joplin and OMax

What else?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 21, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
So let's start the tally:

1) He wants to get out of College Hoops ASAP
2) He has injury questions
3) He shot 38% last year
4) He'd take playing time away from actual program building blocks like Joplin and OMax

What else?
Well, we're not even on his list, but I'll play anyway.
1. Guess we shouldn't take potential one year players, for the sake of building a program
2. He was healthy enough to play against Gonzaga.
3. Lets get rid of Kolek and Joplin then
4. We need more talent, and there are plenty of minutes at the 3,4 spots-especially with Lewis gone
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 21, 2022, 03:48:14 PM
Well, we're not even on his list, but I'll play anyway.
1. Guess we shouldn't take potential one year players, for the sake of building a program
2. He was healthy enough to play against Gonzaga.
3. Lets get rid of Kolek and Joplin then
4. We need more talent, and there are plenty of minutes at the 3,4 spots-especially with Lewis gone

Emoni Bates is worse for the trajectory of this program than Kolek and Joplin. You really don't get that?

Emoni Bates doesn't make Marquette better. He would just give you another reason to cry online when Marquette doesn't exceed your unrealistic expectations.

Joplin and Kolek are better for Marquette basketball than Emoni Bates.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 21, 2022, 03:54:28 PM
Emoni Bates didn't live up to the hype.

An underperforming player that comes with a 3 ring circus is the type of player I want Shaka to avoid.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 21, 2022, 03:57:14 PM
Emoni Bates didn't live up to the hype.

An underperforming player that comes with a 3 ring circus is the type of player I want Shaka to avoid.

Type in "Memphis is better without Emoni Bates" on Twitter and see how obvious it is.

They weren't a tournament until he stepped away. There were fans, analysts, media outlets, etc. that all recognized it. It was no secret that Memphis was simply better without him.

https://youtu.be/ErH5y7uFPds
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 21, 2022, 04:18:27 PM
I think that was expected. Didnt he quit on Memphis halfway through the year? Not to mention he was expected to be a 1 and done. No need for him here with the culture Shaka is building.
No and no.
Is Shaka building a culture devoid of super talented players?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 21, 2022, 04:21:17 PM
Type in "Memphis is better without Emoni Bates" on Twitter and see how obvious it is.

They weren't a tournament until he stepped away. There were fans, analysts, media outlets, etc. that all recognized it. It was no secret that Memphis was simply better without him.

https://youtu.be/ErH5y7uFPds

Twitter searches and highlight videos are the best way to build winning programs.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 21, 2022, 04:24:07 PM
I find it interesting that the guy that doesn't want the future lottery pick is the same guy that is way overhyping the sub 6', borderline top 100 guy.  Bates is an incredible talent, and we could do a lot worse with our open scholarship.  That being said, I don't blame Shaka for not reaching out.  Bates is going to go wherever he can get the most $$$, and that's not MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on April 21, 2022, 04:58:52 PM
I find it interesting that the guy that doesn't want the future lottery pick is the same guy that is way overhyping the sub 6', borderline top 100 guy.  Bates is an incredible talent, and we could do a lot worse with our open scholarship.  That being said, I don't blame Shaka for not reaching out.  Bates is going to go wherever he can get the most $$$, and that's not MU.

Here's a list of schools apparently in contact with Bates (per Bates himself):  Michigan, Arkansas, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Kansas, DePaul, Louisville, Oregon, Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Oklahoma State, Butler and Washington State. 

That's a Big East-heavy list, but I'd put money on one of the big dogs (Kansas, Louisville, or Michigan). 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 21, 2022, 05:00:45 PM
Here's a list of schools apparently in contact with Bates (per Bates himself):  Michigan, Arkansas, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Kansas, DePaul, Louisville, Oregon, Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Oklahoma State, Butler and Washington State. 

That's a Big East-heavy list, but I'd put money on one of the big dogs (Kansas, Louisville, or Michigan).
Dont sleep on the sleeping Giant!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 21, 2022, 05:15:47 PM
Emoni Bates didn't live up to the hype.

An underperforming player that comes with a 3 ring circus is the type of player I want Shaka to avoid.

Moussa Cisse was a top 10 recruit who goes to Memphis and averages 6 pts in a middling conference.  Transfers to Ok St, improves all his stats, and is B12 DPOY.

Boogie Ellis was a top 40 guy who was just ok at Memphis, then left and suddenly was way better in a much better conference at USC.

Maybe Penny is the problem and not just assume an 18 year old kid is an overrated/underperforming issue.

He'd still be a top 10 pick easily if he was draft eligible.  Look at Ziaire Williams.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on April 21, 2022, 07:11:15 PM
Here's a list of schools apparently in contact with Bates (per Bates himself):  Michigan, Arkansas, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Kansas, DePaul, Louisville, Oregon, Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Oklahoma State, Butler and Washington State. 

That's a Big East-heavy list, but I'd put money on one of the big dogs (Kansas, Louisville, or Michigan).

My guess is that $elf will ‘convince’ him to go to Kan$a$.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 21, 2022, 07:20:28 PM
Moussa Cisse was a top 10 recruit who goes to Memphis and averages 6 pts in a middling conference.  Transfers to Ok St, improves all his stats, and is B12 DPOY.

Boogie Ellis was a top 40 guy who was just ok at Memphis, then left and suddenly was way better in a much better conference at USC.

Maybe Penny is the problem and not just assume an 18 year old kid is an overrated/underperforming issue.

He'd still be a top 10 pick easily if he was draft eligible.  Look at Ziaire Williams.

Cisse's stats barely improved.

Ellis performed like many top 40 kids that struggle as a frosh and gets better as they get older.

Stanford went 14-13 with Williams and his stats weren't great either.  Who cares that he was still drafted 10th?  His impact at Stanford was minimal.

Or look at Henry Ellenson.  How much did he really help Marquette in the long run?  Or how about JD Davison at Alabama?

I'm not opposed to all one and done players.  But not all one and done players are worthwhile.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bilsu on April 21, 2022, 09:04:45 PM
Here's a list of schools apparently in contact with Bates (per Bates himself):  Michigan, Arkansas, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Kansas, DePaul, Louisville, Oregon, Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Oklahoma State, Butler and Washington State. 

That's a Big East-heavy list, but I'd put money on one of the big dogs (Kansas, Louisville, or Michigan).
I doubt that these were the only schools that contracted him. I bet there were others that he immediately said he was not interested in.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 21, 2022, 10:02:12 PM
I doubt that these were the only schools that contracted him. I bet there were others that he immediately said he was not interested in.
Yup
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 22, 2022, 04:23:20 AM
My guess is that $elf will ‘convince’ him to go to Kan$a$.

You realize that this stuff now happens above board and falls within the rules - at least the gray area.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on April 22, 2022, 06:44:40 AM
You realize that this stuff now happens above board and falls within the rules - at least the gray area.

Nothing can be coordinated through the university, although I wouldn’t put anything past a sleazeball like Self.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 22, 2022, 07:44:22 AM
Nothing can be coordinated through the university, although I wouldn’t put anything past a sleazeball like Self.

National Champion Bill Self
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 22, 2022, 07:47:57 AM
Nothing can be coordinated through the university, although I wouldn’t put anything past a sleazeball like Self.


Seriously?  Every school, including Marquette, is coordinating this stuff these days.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on April 22, 2022, 07:50:30 AM
National Champion Bill Self

I won’t disagree that in the NCAA cheating does pay.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 09:10:09 AM
I find it interesting that the guy that doesn't want the future lottery pick is the same guy that is way overhyping the sub 6', borderline top 100 guy.  Bates is an incredible talent, and we could do a lot worse with our open scholarship.  That being said, I don't blame Shaka for not reaching out.  Bates is going to go wherever he can get the most $$$, and that's not MU.

Jones is a guy that wants to be here and is a piece to build around. You'd have to pay Bates to be here and he only averaged 9 ppg on 38% shooting in the A10.

There may be 1 year guys that fit the mold moving forward but it isn't Bates. Pretty easy to see that.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 22, 2022, 09:19:51 AM
Jones is a guy that wants to be here and is a piece to build around. You'd have to pay Bates to be here and he only averaged 9 ppg on 38% shooting in the A10.

There may be 1 year guys that fit the mold moving forward but it isn't Bates. Pretty easy to see that.

Bates didn’t play in the A-10
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 22, 2022, 09:23:15 AM
National Champion Bill Self
Just like the 2013 Louisville National Champs ..... that never were.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 09:31:13 AM
Bates didn’t play in the A-10

AAC, American, ACA, ABBA, A10 whatever it is.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 22, 2022, 10:03:37 AM
Just like the 2013 Louisville National Champs ..... that never were.

Still my 2013 National Champ
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Ardmore Mug on April 22, 2022, 11:27:33 AM
I don't know if this belongs here, but its being reported Patrick Baldwin,Jr is declaring for the NBA Draft ! ! !   8-)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2022, 11:28:56 AM
Jones is a guy that wants to be here and is a piece to build around. You'd have to pay Bates to be here and he only averaged 9 ppg on 38% shooting in the A10.

There may be 1 year guys that fit the mold moving forward but it isn't Bates. Pretty easy to see that.

Emoni Bates, who should have been a high school senior last year, played college ball as a 17-year-old and averaged 9.7 ppg despite battling a back injury. He's bad and couldn't help a team like Marquette because he shot 38%.

Tyler Kolek, who shot 32%, needs to be moved off the ball so he can get more shots and lessen his impact at the thing he's really good at, i.e. distributing the ball to better scorers. This would allow Marquette to slide a borderline top 100 kid into the role of primary point guard, despite him never playing a minute of college ball.

Scoop has some weird takes sometime, man.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 22, 2022, 11:37:53 AM
Emoni Bates, who should have been a high school senior last year, played college ball as a 17-year-old and averaged 9.7 ppg despite battling a back injury. He's bad and couldn't help a team like Marquette because he shot 38%.

Tyler Kolek, who shot 32%, needs to be moved off the ball so he can get more shots and lessen his impact at the thing he's really good at, i.e. distributing the ball to better scorers. This would allow Marquette to slide a borderline top 100 kid into the role of primary point guard, despite him never playing a minute of college ball.

Scoop has some weird takes sometime, man.

A high usage, low efficiency player that will be gone in a year is not the culture Shaka is going for.

A multiyear player like Kolek, who improves over time, and is still here in 2-3 years is exactly the culture Shaka is going for.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 22, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
I don't know if this belongs here, but its being reported Patrick Baldwin,Jr is declaring for the NBA Draft ! ! !   8-)

Shocking.  People were saying he was transferring to UW.  In fact, I think it was the same people who said Kansas was our only hope to beat the Badgers.

I hope he falls to the Bucks in the draft.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 22, 2022, 11:53:55 AM
A multiyear player like Kolek, who improves over time, and is still here in 2-3 years is exactly the culture Shaka is going for.

Honestly, that scares the hell out of me.  I like Kolek, but it doesn't sound like a recipe for the success Marquette fans desire.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 22, 2022, 12:12:15 PM
Honestly, that scares the hell out of me.  I like Kolek, but it doesn't sound like a recipe for the success Marquette fans desire.

Shaka will get better multiyear players than Kolek, too.  He's just one example.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 22, 2022, 12:14:28 PM
I don't know if this belongs here, but its being reported Patrick Baldwin,Jr is declaring for the NBA Draft ! ! !   8-)

Good decision.  Some team will still take a gamble on him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 22, 2022, 12:16:44 PM
Shaka will get better multiyear players than Kolek, too.  He's just one example.

Sure, but "culture" is going to wear thin real fast.  Marquette should be getting players that want to win, and are at least good enough to be be paid professionals in the near future.  Sticking around for 3 years because you like being around Shaka so much shouldn't be a criteria.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 22, 2022, 12:17:42 PM
Sure, but "culture" is going to wear thin real fast.  Marquette should be getting players that want to win, and are at least good enough to be be paid professionals in the near future.  Sticking around for 3 years because you like being around Shaka so much shouldn't be a criteria.
Agree. That line of thinking smells like a Badger
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 12:19:48 PM
Matt Heldt was the ultimate "culture" guy. 13 scholarship players of his quality has us behind Gtown and DePaul.  If I believed for one second that the school (either directly or indirectly, however the rules and laws allow) could put together a competitive NIL deal for Bates, I'd be criticizing Shaka for not pursuing.  I know we can't afford him, so it's time well not spent.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 22, 2022, 12:26:06 PM
Good decision.  Some team will still take a gamble on him.



His old man probably has the same NBA connections that Crean has, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 22, 2022, 12:32:01 PM
Matt Heldt was the ultimate "culture" guy. 13 scholarship players of his quality has us behind Gtown and DePaul.  If I believed for one second that the school (either directly or indirectly, however the rules and laws allow) could put together a competitive NIL deal for Bates, I'd be criticizing Shaka for not pursuing.  I know we can't afford him, so it's time well not spent.


Why are we equating culture with lack of basketball ability?

The Amigos were culture guys.  Jimmy Butler and DJO were culture guys albeit for only three years.  Markus Howard was definitely a culture guy.  An All-American.

People are acting like we have to sacrifice significant quality for culture guys.  Nova hasn't.  Baylor hasn't.  Virginia hasn't.  Marquette doesn't either.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 12:38:47 PM

Why are we equating culture with lack of basketball ability?

The Amigos were culture guys.  Jimmy Butler and DJO were culture guys albeit for only three years.  Markus Howard was definitely a culture guy.  An All-American.

People are acting like we have to sacrifice significant quality for culture guys.  Nova hasn't.  Baylor hasn't.  Virginia hasn't.  Marquette doesn't either.

Some people are trying to use "culture" as reasons not to go after blue chip talent.  If a player is a good cultural fit and a blue chip talent, that's great, but immediately dismissing blue chip talent because of a "culture" issue is a mistake IMO.  Bates may not be a good cultural fit, but if we had a legitimate shot at landing him, I would want Shaka to be going all out regardless.   
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 22, 2022, 12:39:14 PM
People are acting like we have to sacrifice significant quality for culture guys.  Nova hasn't.  Baylor hasn't.  Virginia hasn't.  Marquette doesn't either.

Sure, but other people are acting like culture is more important than talent (Kolek example).  I think that's a ridiculous assertion in the world that Shaka is living.  He has to be going for talent, just not at the expense of team chemistry.  And c'mon there aren't that many players that are "bad seeds" - let's not start acting like Wisconsin fans that didn't want a recruit because "supposedly" he couldn't hack it academically.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 22, 2022, 12:47:58 PM
Bates may not be a good cultural fit, but if we had a legitimate shot at landing him, I would want Shaka to be going all out regardless.   


I don't.  If he isn't a good cultural fit, it's just not going to work regardless of the talent.

That being said, I don't think that means all blue chip talent aren't good cultural fits. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 12:54:10 PM
Sure, but "culture" is going to wear thin real fast.  Marquette should be getting players that want to win, and are at least good enough to be be paid professionals in the near future.  Sticking around for 3 years because you like being around Shaka so much shouldn't be a criteria.

That's the point. Bates doesn't care about winning first. He wants to get out of college as soon as possible, which is fine, just not for Marquette.

There will be one and done's and 1 year guys that fit what Shaka is looking for but Bates isn't remotely close to it. An offensive minded guy with no defensive potential who wants to do nothing but score (at a 38% clip). Kolek may have shot 32% but scoring wasn't what he was asked to do last season. He was literally the only PG the team had.

The same people that complain Oso and Kur are "too skinny" want a guy who's even skinnier and weaker because he has a couple of stars next to his name.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2022, 12:55:34 PM
A high usage, low efficiency player that will be gone in a year is not the culture Shaka is going for.

A multiyear player like Kolek, who improves over time, and is still here in 2-3 years is exactly the culture Shaka is going for.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Yeah, good thing we're not bringing in one-year players. (Please ignore that Zach Wrightsil in the corner).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 22, 2022, 12:55:52 PM
Sure, but other people are acting like culture is more important than talent (Kolek example).  I think that's a ridiculous assertion in the world that Shaka is living.  He has to be going for talent, just not at the expense of team chemistry.  And c'mon there aren't that many players that are "bad seeds" - let's not start acting like Wisconsin fans that didn't want a recruit because "supposedly" he couldn't hack it academically.

Nobody is saying ignore talent.  It's finding talent that fits the culture.

Some of these prospects won't develop and transfer after a year or two.  But some will turn into very good juniors and seniors.

Some might improve faster than projected and turn pro early.  A guy like Justin Lewis fits this mold.

Not sure why people are thinking that culture means sacrificing winning when the culture is meant to foster winning.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2022, 12:58:55 PM
That's the point. Bates doesn't care about winning first. He wants to get out of college as soon as possible, which is fine, just not for Marquette.

There will be one and done's and 1 year guys that fit what Shaka is looking for but Bates isn't remotely close to it. An offensive minded guy with no defensive potential who wants to do nothing but score (at a 38% clip). Kolek may have shot 32% but scoring wasn't what he was asked to do last season. He was literally the only PG the team had.

Are you Bates' psychologist or just talking out your a-- about a kid you know nothing about?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 22, 2022, 01:01:40 PM
Yeah, good thing we're not bringing in one-year players. (Please ignore that Zach Wrightsil in the corner).

Shaka brings in one year players like Wrightsil, Morsell, and, Kuath that <drumroll> FIT THE CULTURE.

If you can't tell the difference between those guys and Emoni Bates, then you have no idea what Shaka is trying to build.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 01:03:26 PM
Sure, but other people are acting like culture is more important than talent (Kolek example).  I think that's a ridiculous assertion in the world that Shaka is living.  He has to be going for talent, just not at the expense of team chemistry.  And c'mon there aren't that many players that are "bad seeds" - let's not start acting like Wisconsin fans that didn't want a recruit because "supposedly" he couldn't hack it academically.

Lot of posters are getting real close to this.  Let's not pretend like we wouldn't welcome him with open arms if for some reason Bates decided he wanted to come here. 

I think there's an element of blindly defending any/all person(s) that come to MU, and immediate dismissal of anyone that doesn't.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:05:36 PM
Are you Bates' psychologist or just talking out your a-- about a kid you know nothing about?

I'm taking information that college coaches and media outlets have gathered and shared. The Miller Brothers, the Van Gundy brothers, other media outlets, it's all over.

He could end up being a great player at a later age, but right now he's out there taking poor shots and doing individual things that will get him drafted. Marquette ain't for him and he ain't for Marquette at this stage in his career.

https://youtu.be/9NUTWwf_N_s
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:10:01 PM
Need more?

https://youtu.be/9oyOJiAVf6c

Again, I think he could turn out to be great. Marquette is trying to build a foundation and that's not with a guy like Emoni. There will be other 1 year guys maybe even 1 and done's that fit later on.

We are in the early stages of a foundational rebuild.

"This ain't the PeachJam bro."

"He's a young scorer that hasn't played real defense in his life."

"This doesn't work in the college game."

The evidence from trusted coaches and college media members is all over.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:16:46 PM
Lot of posters are getting real close to this.  Let's not pretend like we wouldn't welcome him with open arms if for some reason Bates decided he wanted to come here. 

I think there's an element of blindly defending any/all person(s) that come to MU, and immediate dismissal of anyone that doesn't.

Hell ya we'd welcome him because if he plays for Marquette and/or is wanted by Shaka, regardless of who the player is, we all should be on board. That's what being a fan is supposed to be about. Back the guys who want to be on your side.

I'm just telling you why he won't be courted by Marquette and why Marquette will look elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 22, 2022, 01:18:12 PM
I'm just telling you why he won't be courted by Marquette and why Marquette will look elsewhere.

Glad to have you posting here Shaka. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 01:19:06 PM
Hell ya we'd welcome him because if he plays for Marquette and/or is wanted by Shaka, regardless of who the player is, we all should be on board. That's what being a fan is supposed to be about. Back the guys who want to be on your side.

I'm just telling you why he won't be courted by Marquette and why Marquette will look elsewhere.

So when you know you can't get him, you don't even want him, but if you could get him, then you'd love him.  Sure sounds like a badger fan to me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:21:28 PM
Glad to have you posting here Shaka.

Idk if you just haven't seen it or haven't been paying attention or what the case may be, but it's pretty obvious what Shaka's approach is. He told us all a few weeks ago.

https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=UVu2fSefqRGNx77ZMSyv8g&s=19
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 22, 2022, 01:25:29 PM
Guys, Shaka didn't reach out to Bates. That should say all you need about whether or not he thought Bates was a fit.

Some blue chip guys don't fit what Shaka wants either on the court,  off the court,  or both.  He won't pursue them. Wojo would've, Shaka is different. That doesn't mean all blue chippers are bad fits or Shaka doesnt want talented players, or whatever strawman is being trotted out there.

But it also doesn't mean we should assume that a blue chipper isn't a fit simply because he's a blue chipper
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 01:27:18 PM
Guys, Shaka didn't reach out to Bates. That should say all you need about whether or not he thought Bates was a fit.

Some blue chip guys don't fit what Shaka wants either on the court,  off the court,  or both.  He won't pursue them. Wojo would've, Shaka is different. That doesn't mean all blue chippers are bad fits or Shaka doesnt want talented players, or whatever strawman is being trotted out there.

But it also doesn't mean we should assume that a blue chipper isn't a fit simply because he's a blue chipper

Do you think Shaka would have reached out if he knew that he'd have the NIL backing that Bates is likely to receive wherever he ends up?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:28:48 PM
Do you think Shaka would have reached out if he knew that he'd have the NIL backing that Bates is likely to receive wherever he ends up?

No.

https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=UVu2fSefqRGNx77ZMSyv8g&s=19
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 01:30:36 PM
No.

https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1514311512323731466?t=UVu2fSefqRGNx77ZMSyv8g&s=19

Bates was not yet in the portal, nice try though.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
Bates was not yet in the portal, nice try though.

Did you listen? It's not about Bates specifically. It's about Shaka's approach, beliefs, style.

He's looking primarily for moldable guys that fit the trajectory of the program. He wants players that he can mold and keep within the program or older guys who are already molded to what he aligns with.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2022, 01:40:04 PM
I'm taking information that college coaches and media outlets have gathered and shared. The Miller Brothers, the Van Gundy brothers, other media outlets, it's all over.

He could end up being a great player at a later age, but right now he's out there taking poor shots and doing individual things that will get him drafted. Marquette ain't for him and he ain't for Marquette at this stage in his career.

https://youtu.be/9NUTWwf_N_s

You said Bates "doesn't care about winning." Nothing here suggests that. You have no idea what he cares about and your need to attack the kid's character because he's not coming to Marquette is bonkers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 01:43:06 PM
Did you listen? It's not about Bates specifically. It's about Shaka's approach, beliefs, style.

He's looking primarily for moldable guys that fit the trajectory of the program. He wants players that he can mold and keep within the program or older guys who are already molded to what he aligns with.

Yea, it's vague coach talk, every coach does it.  Do you really think that a program that hasn't won a tourney game in a decade would be so arrogant to turn their noses up at a lottery pick?  Shaka knows he can't compete finically in the race for Bates.  You've got your head pretty well rooted in the sand if you think he only didn't reach out because of "culture".
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:44:21 PM
You said Bates "doesn't care about winning." Nothing here suggests that. You have no idea what he cares about and your need to attack the kid's character because he's not coming to Marquette is bonkers.

I said winning first. Everyone cares about winning, it's the nature of competition. His priority is to get to the NBA above winning in college. Everybody that discusses him including those coaches I linked earlier have said the same. It's completely ok and hes not even close to the only one that's in that position, just doesn't align with Marquette. Of course he's going to play to win wherever he goes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on April 22, 2022, 01:46:20 PM
Need more?

https://youtu.be/9oyOJiAVf6c

Again, I think he could turn out to be great. Marquette is trying to build a foundation and that's not with a guy like Emoni. There will be other 1 year guys maybe even 1 and done's that fit later on.

We are in the early stages of a foundational rebuild.

"This ain't the PeachJam bro."

"He's a young scorer that hasn't played real defense in his life."

"This doesn't work in the college game."

The evidence from trusted coaches and college media members is all over.

Glad they compare Bates to Shaedon Sharpe, who played under the preeminent 1 and done coach...and also was injured his entire short college career.

Good to see that top 10 recruits at 17-18 are no longer able to struggle or take time to adjust at the next level.  They are automatically lazy/overrated/disappointing/unprepared.

Also, love them as color guys, but when I'm talking college basketball, the opinions of the Van Gundys are as valuable as Charles Barkley or Stephen A Smith
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 22, 2022, 01:46:37 PM
Yea, it's vague coach talk, every coach does it.  Do you really think that a program that hasn't won a tourney game in a decade would be so arrogant to turn their noses up at a lottery pick?  Shaka knows he can't compete finically in the race for Bates.  You've got your head pretty well rooted in the sand if you think he only didn't reach out because of "culture".

I'm quite confident that Shaka doesn't care about the last decade at Marquette. He's concerned about the next one. He's building a foundation. He will look to add young 1 year players in the future, that I believe because he did it at Texas. Just not now at this stage in the process.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 01:54:58 PM
I'm quite confident that Shaka doesn't care about the last decade at Marquette. He's concerned about the next one. He's building a foundation. He will look to add young 1 year players in the future, that I believe because he did it at Texas. Just not now at this stage in the process.

https://www.zagsblog.com/2021/11/23/class-of-2023-five-star-forward-justin-edwards-picks-up-kentucky-offer-while-on-official-visit/

Number 11 overall prospect has an offer from Marquette.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 22, 2022, 02:17:25 PM
https://www.zagsblog.com/2021/11/23/class-of-2023-five-star-forward-justin-edwards-picks-up-kentucky-offer-while-on-official-visit/

Number 11 overall prospect has an offer from Marquette.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

In 2023. When guys that have been here will be juniors and seniors.

Shaka didn't go after Baldwin in his own back yard. Didn't go after Bates. Will he go after those guys? I'm sure. Eventually. I think we'll see some next year and more in the years after that. But not until after the "all culture the first two years" is established on the roster.

He is literally telling us the plan and you say he's ignoring it because we can't afford Bates? Please. We had a donor drop $6M in a day to get rid of Wojo. If it was that imperative we add a guy, Marquette would at least reach out then see if the donors would come through.

We aren't going for Bates because the staff doesn't want him. Period.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 02:44:34 PM
In 2023. When guys that have been here will be juniors and seniors.

Shaka didn't go after Baldwin in his own back yard. Didn't go after Bates. Will he go after those guys? I'm sure. Eventually. I think we'll see some next year and more in the years after that. But not until after the "all culture the first two years" is established on the roster.

He is literally telling us the plan and you say he's ignoring it because we can't afford Bates? Please. We had a donor drop $6M in a day to get rid of Wojo. If it was that imperative we add a guy, Marquette would at least reach out then see if the donors would come through.

We aren't going for Bates because the staff doesn't want him. Period.

He's not though, and why would he?  He's giving vague coach talk and you guys are reading tea leaves that aren't there. 

It was known since Feb 2021 that Baldwin was going to go play for his dad, it's known that Bates is going to the highest bidder, which won't be MU.  The bag was dropped for Wojo because it was known to be a 1 time payment after years of building, it's not going to be dropped for a player, when it will be known that it will have to be dropped every year.  You guys can try to shoehorn everything that Shaka does into his intentionally vague media dialogue, but he knows what he has to work with, and he knows it's not enough to land Bates.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 22, 2022, 02:50:38 PM
https://www.zagsblog.com/2021/11/23/class-of-2023-five-star-forward-justin-edwards-picks-up-kentucky-offer-while-on-official-visit/

Number 11 overall prospect has an offer from Marquette.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

1. Justin Edwards was not a 5-star recruit when Shaka offered
2. We haven't been mentioned with Edwards since he became a 5-star recruit
3. No one is saying that Shaka doesn't want highly rated player, just that they need to be fits on and off the court

Do you really think that talent is the sole thing coaches should look at when recruiting a player? If the answer is no, then you have to admit there are situations when a coach isn't going to be interested in a player even if he is immensely talented. If the answer is yes then I don't know what to tell you.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 02:54:59 PM
1. Justin Edwards was not a 5-star recruit when Shaka offered
2. We haven't been mentioned with Edwards since he became a 5-star recruit
3. No one is saying that Shaka doesn't want highly rated player, just that they need to be fits on and off the court

Do you really think that talent is the sole thing coaches should look at when recruiting a player? If the answer is no, then you have to admit there are situations when a coach isn't going to be interested in a player even if he is immensely talented. If the answer is yes then I don't know what to tell you.

Have I not admitted this literally every time I say that we won't get Bates?  Coaches target players, and players target coaches/programs.  Shaka knows he isn't at the type of program that would attract Bates so he isn't going to waste his time trying, no matter how talented Bates is.  I feel like I've been incredibly consistent in saying this, and if people still aren't getting it, then maybe my posts are being misinterpreted.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 22, 2022, 02:55:21 PM
In 2023. When guys that have been here will be juniors and seniors.

Shaka didn't go after Baldwin in his own back yard. Didn't go after Bates. Will he go after those guys? I'm sure. Eventually. I think we'll see some next year and more in the years after that. But not until after the "all culture the first two years" is established on the roster.

He is literally telling us the plan and you say he's ignoring it because we can't afford Bates? Please. We had a donor drop $6M in a day to get rid of Wojo. If it was that imperative we add a guy, Marquette would at least reach out then see if the donors would come through.

We aren't going for Bates because the staff doesn't want him. Period.
The Master plan does not include Bates. There is concern he would jerk us around and leave prematurely .
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 22, 2022, 02:58:07 PM
Have I not admitted this literally every time I say that we won't get Bates?  Coaches target players, and players target coaches/programs.  Shaka knows he isn't at the type of program that would attract Bates so he isn't going to waste his time trying, no matter how talented Bates is.  I feel like I've been incredibly consistent in saying this, and if people still aren't getting it, then maybe my posts are being misinterpreted.

Okay I will rephrase. Do you think that talent and likelihood that the player will be interested are the only two factors coaches should look at when recruiting a player? If the answer is no, then you have to admit there are situations when a coach isn't going to be interested in a player even if he is immensely talented and interested in playing for your university. If the answer is yes then I don't know what to tell you.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 03:06:38 PM
Okay I will rephrase. Do you think that talent and likelihood that the player will be interested are the only two factors coaches should look at when recruiting a player? If the answer is no, then you have to admit there are situations when a coach isn't going to be interested in a player even if he is immensely talented and interested in playing for your university. If the answer is yes then I don't know what to tell you.

I don't think they're the only two, but I think that they're two of the largest if not the two largest, talent being number 1, and odds that you can actually land said player being number two.  Other factors would include roster construct (why we all knew there would be no reaching out to a Ramey, and why we're still potentially in the market for a big), or playstyle (as much as it pains me to say, there have been some incredibly talented bigs that have gone through UW-Madison, and despite their talent, none of them have really resonated with the play style that we were running with at the time).

Everybody seems to be in agreement that we're not getting Bates, the differences seem to lie in the reasons why we're not getting him.  All I'm trying to get across the board is that "culture" is a pretty thin excuse, and $$$ is a much more plausible one, especially considering the circumstances that have surrounded Bates.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 22, 2022, 03:26:22 PM
You realize that this stuff now happens above board and falls within the rules - at least the gray area.
but when Self paid the playas, it was illegal. Fry ‘em!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 22, 2022, 03:30:05 PM
but when Self paid the playas, it was illegal. Fry ‘em!


It's just not happening.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 22, 2022, 03:40:01 PM
I don't think they're the only two, but I think that they're two of the largest if not the two largest, talent being number 1, and odds that you can actually land said player being number two.  Other factors would include roster construct (why we all knew there would be no reaching out to a Ramey, and why we're still potentially in the market for a big), or playstyle (as much as it pains me to say, there have been some incredibly talented bigs that have gone through UW-Madison, and despite their talent, none of them have really resonated with the play style that we were running with at the time).

Everybody seems to be in agreement that we're not getting Bates, the differences seem to lie in the reasons why we're not getting him.  All I'm trying to get across the board is that "culture" is a pretty thin excuse, and $$$ is a much more plausible one, especially considering the circumstances that have surrounded Bates.

I think if "likelihood of landing them" is top 2 on your coach's list, you have the wrong coach. I also think if you asked Shaka if culture comes before or after talent, he would tell you before. There are plenty of talented players who fit the culture. You don't need to compromise. I don't understand where this idea that culture and talent are mutually exclusive is coming from.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 22, 2022, 03:48:08 PM
It was known since Feb 2021 that Baldwin was going to go play for his dad

Except right after Shaka took over, local coaches were pushing the "Shaka will hire Baldwin as his assistant and PBJ will follow." This was when it was unsure if Baldwin Senior would be back at UWM.

It was pretty obvious at the time those rumors were coming from PBS and Curro. But Marquette never even sniffed the bait.

And while you keep calling it coach speak, the guys he's brought in and continues to recruit indicate it's more than that and you're just refusing to acknowledge the reality in front of you.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 03:52:32 PM
I think if "likelihood of landing them" is top 2 on your coach's list, you have the wrong coach. I also think if you asked Shaka if culture comes before or after talent, he would tell you before. There are plenty of talented players who fit the culture. You don't need to compromise. I don't understand where this idea that culture and talent are mutually exclusive is coming from.

I think ability to identify "realistic" targets is incredibly important.  How many times did Wojo swing for the fences, only to strike out? Grimes, Mannion, DaRon Holmes, Kendall Brown, Carton (the first time), Cassius Winston etc.

I have no doubt that there are talented kids that also have the right cultural fit.  I have no doubt that there are future lottery picks that fit the cultural style that Shaka is looking for.  I have no doubt that they're going to Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, UCLA, G-League etc.  I have no doubt that Shaka knows this too, and that's why he's not wasting his time recruiting them. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2022, 03:55:51 PM
Okay I will rephrase. Do you think that talent and likelihood that the player will be interested are the only two factors coaches should look at when recruiting a player? If the answer is no, then you have to admit there are situations when a coach isn't going to be interested in a player even if he is immensely talented and interested in playing for your university. If the answer is yes then I don't know what to tell you.

TAMU ... you're absolutely correct that there may be reasons beyond ability and interest for Marquette or any other program to not recruit a particular player.
But all too often around here, we're seeing the culture trope being trotted out as an excuse or rationalization for not pursuing a highly ranked/sought player.

I'm OK with MU not pursuing Bates for a whole host of reasons ... NIL expectations, scheme fit, roster needs, whatever. But saying he would be bad for the culture because he wants to get to the NBA as soon as possible (like virtually all players for whom its an option) or making up nonsense about his commitment to winning? That's asinine.
Before heading to Memphis, Bates was committed to Michigan State for a long time. Now he's hearing from Kansas, Arkansas, Butler and Michigan, among others.
Are we to believe that Shaka is creating such a unique, paradigm-altering basketball culture that a kid who could fit in at a Bill Self or Eric Musselman program would be a bad fit at Marquette? Say what you want about Self, but he builds smart, tough, disciplined teams, often with players who stick around 3-4 years. If Shaka doesn't want kids who would fit at Kansas, we hired the wrong guy.
Better yet are we to believe that Tom Izzo and Thad Matta would bring into their program selfish, me-first players who don't care about defense and aren't fully committed to winning? Because that's how one poster here in particular is playing it, and it's complete nonsense.

Just seems like culture is being used here the way some Badger fans use "Bo cooled on him" and "he couldn't handle the academics."

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on April 22, 2022, 03:59:00 PM
Except right after Shaka took over, local coaches were pushing the "Shaka will hire Baldwin as his assistant and PBJ will follow." This was when it was unsure if Baldwin Senior would be back at UWM.

It was pretty obvious at the time those rumors were coming from PBS and Curro. But Marquette never even sniffed the bait.

And while you keep calling it coach speak, the guys he's brought in and continues to recruit indicate it's more than that and you're just refusing to acknowledge the reality in front of you.

You just keep on shoehorning it however you want so you can fit it into your narrative.  I'd bet that I can find an interview with Self or Cal where they just sit there and talk about culture too.  Why you continue to be so hung up on it is confusing.

Edit:

This is really kind of pointless at the juncture.  As Pak, TAMU and I have all pointed out, there are a number of reason to either recruit or not recruit a player.  Unless either of us is talking to Shaka, every time there is a new offer or commit, you're going to be able to throw out the "oh, well he's a good cultural fit" narrative, and probably not technically be wrong, and I'll be able to throw out the "he's a talented player", or "he's a realistic option at this point", and probably not technically be wrong.  Why do you seem to be so hung up on one of the many factors that go into recruiting?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 22, 2022, 03:59:36 PM
Better yet are we to believe that Tom Izzo and Thad Matta would bring into their program selfish, me-first players who don't care about defense and aren't fully committed to winning? Because that's how one poster here in particular is playing it, and it's complete nonsense.

Well, Tom Izzo did bring in The Letter Writer...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 22, 2022, 04:13:06 PM
Very concerned we got the wrong guy as coach if some of what is being said here is true.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 22, 2022, 04:19:37 PM
TAMU ... you're absolutely correct that there may be reasons beyond ability and interest for Marquette or any other program to not recruit a particular player.
But all too often around here, we're seeing the culture trope being trotted out as an excuse or rationalization for not pursuing a highly ranked/sought player.

I'm OK with MU not pursuing Bates for a whole host of reasons ... NIL expectations, scheme fit, roster needs, whatever. But saying he would be bad for the culture because he wants to get to the NBA as soon as possible (like virtually all players for whom its an option) or making up nonsense about his commitment to winning? That's asinine.
Before heading to Memphis, Bates was committed to Michigan State for a long time. Now he's hearing from Kansas, Arkansas, Butler and Michigan, among others.
Are we to believe that Shaka is creating such a unique, paradigm-altering basketball culture that a kid who could fit in at a Bill Self or Eric Musselman program would be a bad fit at Marquette? Say what you want about Self, but he builds smart, tough, disciplined teams, often with players who stick around 3-4 years. If Shaka doesn't want kids who would fit at Kansas, we hired the wrong guy.
Better yet are we to believe that Tom Izzo and Thad Matta would bring into their program selfish, me-first players who don't care about defense and aren't fully committed to winning? Because that's how one poster here in particular is playing it, and it's complete nonsense.

Just seems like culture is being used here the way some Badger fans use "Bo cooled on him" and "he couldn't handle the academics."

Making up things about a recruits "commitment to winning" is wrong and asinine. I don't think Shaka is interested in one and dones at this point. He might be in the future, but so far he has yet to go after any player that is projected as a for sure one and done.

Shaka's culture isn't unique, lots of coaches take a similar approach. Other coaches take different approaches. Why that idea is so offensive to some, I don't understand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 22, 2022, 04:59:40 PM

Shaka's culture isn't unique, lots of coaches take a similar approach. Other coaches take different approaches. Why that idea is so offensive to some, I don't understand.

This.

It's like looking at what the staff does and listening to what the staff says is a personal affront to some here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 22, 2022, 06:17:35 PM
Every player in The Transfer Portal listed by Conference. Also shows those that have committed to new schools.

https://watchstadium.com/every-player-in-the-2022-college-basketball-transfer-portal-04-21-2022/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2022, 06:43:12 PM
Making up things about a recruits "commitment to winning" is wrong and asinine. I don't think Shaka is interested in one and dones at this point. He might be in the future, but so far he has yet to go after any player that is projected as a for sure one and done.

Shaka's culture isn't unique, lots of coaches take a similar approach. Other coaches take different approaches. Why that idea is so offensive to some, I don't understand.

Nobody is offended, TAMU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: RubyWiscy on April 23, 2022, 03:36:36 PM
I'm confused.  Kurth, Morsell and Wrightsil don't count as one-and-dones? What is the difference if it is a Freshman?

Making up things about a recruits "commitment to winning" is wrong and asinine. I don't think Shaka is interested in one and dones at this point. He might be in the future, but so far he has yet to go after any player that is projected as a for sure one and done.

Shaka's culture isn't unique, lots of coaches take a similar approach. Other coaches take different approaches. Why that idea is so offensive to some, I don't understand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 23, 2022, 03:45:50 PM
 ***BREAKING NEWS*** @LifeWallet is proud to announce @NijelPack24 has officially committed to UM as a basketball player.  The biggest LifeWallet deal to date, two years $800,000.00 total at $400,000.00 per year plus a car.  Congratulations!!!

Relating to Nijel Pack transferring to Miami.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 23, 2022, 04:22:05 PM
***BREAKING NEWS*** @LifeWallet is proud to announce @NijelPack24 has officially committed to UM as a basketball player.  The biggest LifeWallet deal to date, two years $800,000.00 total at $400,000.00 per year plus a car.  Congratulations!!!

Relating to Nijel Pack transferring to Miami.

Ridiculous.  Looking forward to this happening to us as we're definitely not going to be doing it to other teams. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 23, 2022, 04:23:28 PM
I'm confused.  Kurth, Morsell and Wrightsil don't count as one-and-dones? What is the difference if it is a Freshman?
Sure, they are one and done in a manner.  But, bringing in vetted for fit 5th year guys is wildly different than bringing in a  recent HS grad with the NBA on his mind.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 23, 2022, 04:57:59 PM
***BREAKING NEWS*** @LifeWallet is proud to announce @NijelPack24 has officially committed to UM as a basketball player.  The biggest LifeWallet deal to date, two years $800,000.00 total at $400,000.00 per year plus a car.  Congratulations!!!

Relating to Nijel Pack transferring to Miami.
Worth noting that in Nijel’s two years at K State the team had a combined record of 23-37 ( 9-20 and 14-17)

Is it possible Nijel was more interested in putting up a stat line than winning ? Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 23, 2022, 06:03:24 PM
Sure, they are one and done in a manner.  But, bringing in vetted for fit 5th year guys is wildly different than bringing in a  recent HS grad with the NBA on his mind.

Pretty much every player in a high major program has the NBA on his mind.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 23, 2022, 06:32:08 PM
It will surprise no one to learn that Norberto Menendez, founder of Lifewallet, is a Miami alum.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 23, 2022, 07:48:17 PM
Bennett Vander Plas has committed to Virginia.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: LAZER on April 23, 2022, 08:04:43 PM
Worth noting that in Nijel’s two years at K State the team had a combined record of 23-37 ( 9-20 and 14-17)

Is it possible Nijel was more interested in putting up a stat line than winning ? Asking for a friend.
His stats wouldn’t have hurt the team in any way. He has great numbers.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2022, 08:07:58 PM
Bennett Vander Plas has committed to Virginia.

Badger fans knew he wouldn’t commit because his credits wouldn’t transfer
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 23, 2022, 08:35:02 PM
Bennett Vander Plas has committed to Virginia.

Kinda figured that would happen. He was named after Tony Bennett’s dad.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 23, 2022, 08:38:05 PM
Kinda figured that would happen. He was named after Tony Bennett’s dad.

Bennett Bennett ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 23, 2022, 08:59:25 PM
Kinda figured that would happen. He was named after Tony Bennett’s dad.
And Vander Blue
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: bilsu on April 23, 2022, 09:13:32 PM
Sure, they are one and done in a manner.  But, bringing in vetted for fit 5th year guys is wildly different than bringing in a  recent HS grad with the NBA on his mind.
There is a big difference. A coach knows a fifth year senior is gone for good next year and can plan accordingly. Prior to start of this season Shaka did not know for sure that Lewis would go pro and that still is not a certain conclusion. Did Shaka know that Garcia was not coming back to Marquette last spring before it was too late?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 24, 2022, 12:55:04 AM
According to this article In the Washington State fan site, Foreign Players are not eligible for NIL. That could help our cause
https://www.cougcenter.com/2022/4/16/23027744/wsu-cougars-efe-abogidi-transfer-portal

That’s an odd rule.

Got some clarity on this. NIL creates visa issues with international students. So it's not an NCAA rule, it's an ICE rule. However, there are ways around it but they are questionable. Oscar Tshibwe is on a student visa but is reporting a $2 million NLI payday, though no one is quire sure how they managed that.

Could help us with Abgodi because it theoretically keeps Arizona and Texas from buying him outright. Could theoretically hurt us because we may not be willing to color outside the lines where other programs *cough* Arizona *cough* might be and some money is better than no money.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 24, 2022, 01:23:43 AM
Oscar Tshibwe is on a student visa but is reporting a $2 million NLI payday, though no one is quire sure how they managed that.

I believe it's called volunteering.  "This is legal as long as you’re not depriving an American citizen of a job by volunteering."

If a US company wants to pay Tshiebwe for a public service campaign in Congo against sexual violence, that's easy.

Similar for Abogidi in Nigeria. 

Actually fantastic volunteer opportunities for both gentlemen.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 25, 2022, 01:12:03 AM
Got some clarity on this. NIL creates visa issues with international students. So it's not an NCAA rule, it's an ICE rule. However, there are ways around it but they are questionable. Oscar Tshibwe is on a student visa but is reporting a $2 million NLI payday, though no one is quire sure how they managed that.

Could help us with Abgodi because it theoretically keeps Arizona and Texas from buying him outright. Could theoretically hurt us because we may not be willing to color outside the lines where other programs *cough* Arizona *cough* might be and some money is better than no money.

UK hired immigration lawyers who got Tshwibe’s visa status changed from F-1 “student” to O-1 “talent.” He is now on a similar visa as Luka Donic, Daniel Radcliffe, Giannis, and other non-citizens who make money in the US in athletics, film, music, etc.  It is a high bar to meet. They have to prove “extraordinary ability” in their field. By winning NPOY, Tshweibe was able to get his visa changed. At least UK admits he’s not there to play school.

Tommy Lloyd doesn’t want to play the NIL game. That’s why he told Garcia to go to UNC.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 25, 2022, 05:07:42 AM
Tommy Lloyd doesn’t want to play the NIL game. That’s why he told Garcia to go to UNC.

That's not true. Arizona has an exclusive deal with an app that allows fans to pay players. They are at the forefront of the NIL game.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 25, 2022, 06:27:35 AM
Caleb Love returning to UNC, meaning 4 of their 5 starters -- Love, Armando Bacot, RJ Davis and Leaky Black -- are coming back. (Manek was out of eligibility.)

On the one hand, UNC has to be a favorite for the Final Four; on the other, there's more pressure on Hubert Davis. But if you're gonna coach at UNC, you're gonna face pressure anyway.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 25, 2022, 07:22:01 AM
That's not true. Arizona has an exclusive deal with an app that allows fans to pay players. They are at the forefront of the NIL game.

Any coach who "doesn't want to play the NIL game," won't be coaching for long.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2022, 07:56:45 AM
Any coach who "doesn't want to play the NIL game," won't be coaching for long.

Chicos said NIL would kill college sports
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 25, 2022, 09:00:42 AM
Interesting info from Armando Bacot. Curious on who these top level players are.

https://tarheeltribune.com/2022/04/22/bacot-says-his-decision-would-have-been-tougher-without-nil/ (https://tarheeltribune.com/2022/04/22/bacot-says-his-decision-would-have-been-tougher-without-nil/)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 25, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
That's not true. Arizona has an exclusive deal with an app that allows fans to pay players. They are at the forefront of the NIL game.

Why can’t MU make an app that allows this? Do people get anything in return?  Autographed game worn jerseys?  What are they selling on the app?

Seriously curious.  This would be an awesome way to funnel thousands of dollars to players by regular fans and not just big donors. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 25, 2022, 10:45:56 AM
Why can’t MU make an app that allows this? Do people get anything in return?  Autographed game worn jerseys?  What are they selling on the app?

Seriously curious.  This would be an awesome way to funnel thousands of dollars to players by regular fans and not just big donors.

From reading articles on it, it seems to offer anything from online interactions to appearances for a fee. Also has a subscription model, so it's possible they are revenue sharing with all the athletes involved. Men's Basketball seems to be the first program they focused on, but there were a few others involved. Football was not one, so clearly the original design was for the MBB program. In one of the articles, an athlete mentioned sitting in on a presentation about the app last summer (didn't launch until November 2021) so considering Dawson Garcia didn't commit until July 8, this is something Arizona almost certainly would've pitched to him in any recruiting efforts last summer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 25, 2022, 10:50:29 AM
Why can’t MU make an app that allows this? Do people get anything in return?  Autographed game worn jerseys?  What are they selling on the app?

Seriously curious.  This would be an awesome way to funnel thousands of dollars to players by regular fans and not just big donors.

https://pac-12.com/article/2021/11/10/get-connected-arizona-student-athletes-dyme

Quote
DYME delivers to fans exclusive content that is created specifically by players for a team's biggest supporters. Content will include player profiles, fun conversations, behind the scenes access, team travel videos, locker room chats, game recaps, team competitions and more.

[snip]

Subscribers have exclusive access to video chats and text messaging with players previously unavailable to Arizona supporters. Fans can have post-game locker room conversations with athletes, fans can talk about past and upcoming games, and all things Arizona Athletics.

https://apps.apple.com/bg/app/dyme-athlete-driven-content/id1572611875
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 25, 2022, 11:18:54 AM
Providence lands Kentucky transfer Bryce Hopkins.
Friars going to be tough again.
But why does Ed Cooley not care about culture?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 25, 2022, 11:26:03 AM
Providence lands Kentucky transfer Bryce Hopkins.
Friars going to be tough again.
But why does Ed Cooley not care about culture?

I'll be interested to see if he can make this work again. It worked this year thanks to spectacular luck in close games, but Texas brought in a better raw crop of transfers and wasn't nearly as good as expected. Feels like it might give some short-term success, but unlikely long-term payoff.

And honestly...I'm not sure Cooley would be in top half if I was rating Big East coaches. Certainly behind Miller, Matta, Smart, and McDermott. Ahead of Ewing, Neptune, Stubblefield, and Holloway. Depends on how you sort out the middle three of Cooley, Anderson, and Hurley.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 25, 2022, 11:33:27 AM
Providence lands Kentucky transfer Bryce Hopkins.
Friars going to be tough again.
But why does Ed Cooley not care about culture?

Nice try at a jab, but Marquette reached out to Hopkins, too. 

There is no "he doesn't fit the culture" narrative.  A few posters, myself included, were specifically talking about Emoni Bates.  That's it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 25, 2022, 12:15:55 PM
Nice try at a jab, but Marquette reached out to Hopkins, too. 

There is no "he doesn't fit the culture" narrative.  A few posters, myself included, were specifically talking about Emoni Bates.  That's it.
.

Didn't think that needed teal, but I guess I overestimated.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 25, 2022, 12:19:01 PM
I'll be interested to see if he can make this work again. It worked this year thanks to spectacular luck in close games, but Texas brought in a better raw crop of transfers and wasn't nearly as good as expected. Feels like it might give some short-term success, but unlikely long-term payoff.

And honestly...I'm not sure Cooley would be in top half if I was rating Big East coaches. Certainly behind Miller, Matta, Smart, and McDermott. Ahead of Ewing, Neptune, Stubblefield, and Holloway. Depends on how you sort out the middle three of Cooley, Anderson, and Hurley.
I’d put Cooley ahead of Miller and Matta at this point. Is Miller a good coach…or good banker?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 25, 2022, 12:27:19 PM
That's not true. Arizona has an exclusive deal with an app that allows fans to pay players. They are at the forefront of the NIL game.

hundreds of schools used Inflncr and it's for the entire department. It's not Tommy Lloyd setting up deals like other coaches are. When Dawson asked Tommy Lloyd if he'd match what UNC was offering him he said no. Lloyd stays out of it. This program is hardly at "the forefront of the NIL game."

https://arizonaedgemarketplace.com/
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2022, 12:37:12 PM
hundreds of schools used Inflncr and it's for the entire department. It's not Tommy Lloyd setting up deals like other coaches are. When Dawson asked Tommy Lloyd if he'd match what UNC was offering him he said no. Lloyd stays out of it. This program is hardly at "the forefront of the NIL game."

https://arizonaedgemarketplace.com/

The basketball program has added more options beyond this

https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2022/2/9/general-new-ways-to-support-wildcat-nil-opportunities.aspx

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/tucson-business-leaders-launch-nil-collective-to-connect-wildcats-athletes-with-endorsement-money/article_dde19a98-89d6-11ec-961e-2bf1fe0a3cbe.html

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 25, 2022, 12:58:31 PM
The basketball program has added more options beyond this

https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2022/2/9/general-new-ways-to-support-wildcat-nil-opportunities.aspx

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/tucson-business-leaders-launch-nil-collective-to-connect-wildcats-athletes-with-endorsement-money/article_dde19a98-89d6-11ec-961e-2bf1fe0a3cbe.html

Do we have a link to MUs NIL assistance initiative?  $100/month/scoop member * all members of scoop buys several athletes.  We could start a scoop fund and these players could advertise scoop.  That seems pretty above board to me. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 25, 2022, 01:09:35 PM
hundreds of schools used Inflncr and it's for the entire department. It's not Tommy Lloyd setting up deals like other coaches are. When Dawson asked Tommy Lloyd if he'd match what UNC was offering him he said no. Lloyd stays out of it. This program is hardly at "the forefront of the NIL game."

https://arizonaedgemarketplace.com/

Not talking about Inflncr.

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/new-app-connects-wildcats-to-paying-public-as-part-of-ncaas-new-nil-rules/article_1fc5c906-6674-11ec-8d7f-8f8f99a7803e.html

DYME was in the works last summer, when Garcia would've been recruited, and launched in November. Here's the most important bit from the article:

Like Kier, Koi Love is new to the Tucson campus. A transfer from Vanderbilt — Kier arrived from SEC school Georgia — Love sat in on a summer presentation between the DYME team and the Arizona men’s basketball team.

What she heard wowed her.

“This app is going to give us a chance to be a lot more intimate with the fans,” Love said. “There are things that are taboo, or might not be the right thing to share. That is so important, to be able to hold the narrative in our own hands. To give our true, authentic selves. Instagram, Facebook — that’s pictures. That’s like, fake. Being able to interact with us, I think this app will really be special. If fans can use it correctly, it will give us a look at who we are.”

DYME signed an exclusive agreement with Arizona student-athletes to launch their platform, onboarding with five programs — men’s and women’s basketball, baseball and softball and women’s volleyball.


Worth noting that football is not one of the programs listed, making it clear that basketball is a bigger priority when it comes to NIL. I'm not going to comment on what Lloyd may or may not have said to Garcia, but the idea that Arizona isn't one of the schools at the front of the pack pushing the limits of NIL is simply inaccurate.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 25, 2022, 01:30:44 PM
When Dawson asked Tommy Lloyd if he'd match what UNC was offering him he said no. Lloyd stays out of it.
Did he tell Garcia that NIL is not even on his radar?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 25, 2022, 02:29:55 PM
Still on Ramey

Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
·
9m
Schools recruiting Texas’ Courtney Ramey consistently, his dad tells me :

California
Georgetown
Gonzaga
Illinois
Kansas
Marquette
Maryland
Nebraska
Ohio St
Oklahoma St
San Diego St
SMU
Tennessee
Wake Forest
West Virginia
Western Kentucky
Villanova
Xavier
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 25, 2022, 03:05:58 PM
Still on Ramey

Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
·
9m
Schools recruiting Texas’ Courtney Ramey consistently, his dad tells me :

California
Georgetown
Gonzaga
Illinois
Kansas
Marquette
Maryland
Nebraska
Ohio St
Oklahoma St
San Diego St
SMU
Tennessee
Wake Forest
West Virginia
Western Kentucky
Villanova
Xavier

Last spot might come down to Lewis or Ramey.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 25, 2022, 03:09:37 PM
Still on Ramey

Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
·
9m
Schools recruiting Texas’ Courtney Ramey consistently, his dad tells me :

California
Georgetown
Gonzaga
Illinois
Kansas
Marquette
Maryland
Nebraska
Ohio St
Oklahoma St
San Diego St
SMU
Tennessee
Wake Forest
West Virginia
Western Kentucky
Villanova
Xavier

Can the dentists of Scoop please each pick one of Ramey, Lewis, and Efe and sponsor an NIL deal that pays them enough to pay their own tuition and then some so they can walk on to the team?  Thanks.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 25, 2022, 04:43:25 PM
Still on Ramey

Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
·
9m
Schools recruiting Texas’ Courtney Ramey consistently, his dad tells me :

California
Georgetown
Gonzaga
Illinois
Kansas
Marquette
Maryland
Nebraska
Ohio St
Oklahoma St
San Diego St
SMU
Tennessee
Wake Forest
West Virginia
Western Kentucky
Villanova
Xavier

I think the plan all along has been Ramey and Lewis/Lewis Replacement.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see Ramey and Lewis next year at Marquette with 1 guy currently on the roster transferring out.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: forgetful on April 25, 2022, 04:47:00 PM
Do we have a link to MUs NIL assistance initiative?  $100/month/scoop member * all members of scoop buys several athletes.  We could start a scoop fund and these players could advertise scoop.  That seems pretty above board to me.

Maybe Arbys (Scoops unofficial sponsor) would kick in some money too.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 25, 2022, 05:03:22 PM
Last spot might come down to Lewis or Ramey.

Why?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 25, 2022, 05:04:56 PM
Why?

It feels more like, lewis or empty as of today.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on April 25, 2022, 05:14:10 PM
I think the plan all along has been Ramey and Lewis/Lewis Replacement.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see Ramey and Lewis next year at Marquette with 1 guy currently on the roster transferring out.

Now that's some glass half full thinking. I'd like that.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 25, 2022, 05:26:25 PM
hundreds of schools used Inflncr and it's for the entire department. It's not Tommy Lloyd setting up deals like other coaches are. When Dawson asked Tommy Lloyd if he'd match what UNC was offering him he said no. Lloyd stays out of it. This program is hardly at "the forefront of the NIL game."

Maybe not the forefront (UCLA & Kentucky) but Lute was on it early.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 25, 2022, 08:04:46 PM
Why?

Just a feeling.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 26, 2022, 11:21:00 AM
Did he tell Garcia that NIL is not even on his radar?

Dawson told him what UNC was offering and he said he wouldn't do it. Lloyd doesn't want to deal with it because coaches become beholden to those who are paying the players.

"I'm paying $150,000 for this kid to promote my business, I demand he play more." Lloyd isn't the only coach who doesn't want to deal with that crap.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 26, 2022, 11:24:42 AM
Dawson told him what UNC was offering and he said he wouldn't do it. Lloyd doesn't want to deal with it because coaches become beholden to those who are paying the players.

"I'm paying $150,000 for this kid to promote my business, I demand he play more." Lloyd isn't the only coach who doesn't want to deal with that crap.


That's quite a bit different than he "doesn’t want to play the NIL game."
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 26, 2022, 12:05:44 PM
Dawson told him what UNC was offering and he said he wouldn't do it. Lloyd doesn't want to deal with it because coaches become beholden to those who are paying the players.

"I'm paying $150,000 for this kid to promote my business, I demand he play more." Lloyd isn't the only coach who doesn't want to deal with that crap.

Boy, someone should tell the businesses (restaurants (https://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/article/2022/02/s-arizona-sports-nil), mortgage companies (https://www.azdesertswarm.com/2021/7/1/22559465/arizona-wildcats-nil-deals-name-image-likeness-deals-contracts-basketball-football-athletes-laws), tech companies (https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/arizonas-cate-reese-signs-nil-deal-with-online-tech-company-newegg/article_c3082f9a-a3ce-11ec-a4e7-572e22ef3e59.html), etc) that are paying Arizona athletes, the Arizona athletic department that approved the DYME app (https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2021/11/10/general-get-connected-with-arizona-student-athletes-on-dyme.aspx), the Arizona athletic department that is pushing the EDGE program (https://arizonaedgemarketplace.com/), and the TWO collectives (https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2022/2/9/general-new-ways-to-support-wildcat-nil-opportunities.aspx) created to funnel donor money to Arizona athletes that Tommy Lloyd doesn't want to deal with that crap.  ::) ::) ::)

Give me a break, Arizona is awash with "that crap" and has been since it started. I wish Marquette had half the cojones Arizona did when it comes to flooding the athletic department with NIL opportunities.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 26, 2022, 12:06:48 PM
Dawson told him what UNC was offering and he said he wouldn't do it. Lloyd doesn't want to deal with it because coaches become beholden to those who are paying the players.

"I'm paying $150,000 for this kid to promote my business, I demand he play more." Lloyd isn't the only coach who doesn't want to deal with that crap.

Someone should tell him the university that is employing him is indeed, paying more through local businesses and individuals. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on April 26, 2022, 12:08:11 PM
Boy, someone should tell the businesses (restaurants (https://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/article/2022/02/s-arizona-sports-nil), mortgage companies (https://www.azdesertswarm.com/2021/7/1/22559465/arizona-wildcats-nil-deals-name-image-likeness-deals-contracts-basketball-football-athletes-laws), tech companies (https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/arizonas-cate-reese-signs-nil-deal-with-online-tech-company-newegg/article_c3082f9a-a3ce-11ec-a4e7-572e22ef3e59.html), etc) that are paying Arizona athletes, the Arizona athletic department that approved the DYME app (https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2021/11/10/general-get-connected-with-arizona-student-athletes-on-dyme.aspx), the Arizona athletic department that is pushing the EDGE program (https://arizonaedgemarketplace.com/), and the TWO collectives (https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2022/2/9/general-new-ways-to-support-wildcat-nil-opportunities.aspx) created to funnel donor money to Arizona athletes that Tommy Lloyd doesn't want to deal with that crap.  ::) ::) ::)

Give me a break, Arizona is awash with "that crap" and has been since it started. I wish Marquette had half the cojones Arizona did when it comes to flooding the athletic department with NIL opportunities.
Exactly. I am sure Lloyd doesn't mention to prospective SA's that there is an abundance of NIL opportunities if you play for UA.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on April 26, 2022, 12:43:40 PM
Exactly. I am sure Lloyd doesn't mention to prospective SA's that there is an abundance of NIL opportunities if you play for UA.

Arizona’s long been a proponent of NIL - it just used to be called paying players under the table.  👀
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on April 26, 2022, 02:49:05 PM
Saint Peter’s transfer Matthew Lee has committed to Missouri State, he tells @On3sports.

https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1519011749772541952?s=21&t=aERNCIbEBYdKz6nZ3SV17Q
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 27, 2022, 09:59:33 AM
Malachi Smith? 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 27, 2022, 10:50:18 AM
Malachi Smith?

To South Carolina.  Unless someone pays him more, which is very possible.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 27, 2022, 11:14:43 AM
To South Carolina.  Unless someone pays him more, which is very possible.

What??

I read he literally just entered the portal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 27, 2022, 11:15:20 AM
What??

I read he literally just entered the portal.

Chattanooga's coach took the South Carolina job.  The thought is he'll follow his coach.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on April 27, 2022, 11:20:13 AM
Chattanooga's coach took the South Carolina job.  The thought is he'll follow his coach.

Well we need to get on this immediately.  The kid can ball.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 27, 2022, 11:24:18 AM
Well we need to get on this immediately.  The kid can ball.

Shaka can call all he wants. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 28, 2022, 02:03:47 PM
Pat Baldwin enters the portal but is also committed to staying in the draft.  Hmm...


https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1519752931830120448?t=QgoitZSQhfA-nwVA44TUSQ&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1519752931830120448?t=QgoitZSQhfA-nwVA44TUSQ&s=19)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 28, 2022, 02:05:39 PM
Pat Baldwin enters the portal but is also committed to staying in the draft.  Hmm...


https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1519752931830120448?t=QgoitZSQhfA-nwVA44TUSQ&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1519752931830120448?t=QgoitZSQhfA-nwVA44TUSQ&s=19)

Lot of blue bloods hoping he gets a bad draft grade but I have to believe he gets a first round grade
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 28, 2022, 02:11:58 PM
Pat Baldwin enters the portal but is also committed to staying in the draft.  Hmm...


https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1519752931830120448?t=QgoitZSQhfA-nwVA44TUSQ&s=19
 (https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1519752931830120448?t=QgoitZSQhfA-nwVA44TUSQ&s=19)
Maybe the the NBA is not as 'committed' to him as he is to the NBA?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 28, 2022, 02:18:26 PM
Gonna be honest - I'd be extremely disappointed if my favorite NBA team drafted him. He has bust written all over him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 28, 2022, 02:19:16 PM
I'd be absolutely thrilled with the Bucks getting him late in the 1st.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 28, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
Pat Baldwin Sr cost his son a ton of money. No meaningful NIL at Milwaukee where he could have made some money at Duke, probably dropped 15-20 spots at minimum in the draft because he was triple-teamed every time he touched the ball, and might even lose a full year of NBA earnings if he comes back to college. All that so Senior could get one more year at Milwaukee for a fraction of what his son would have made in the NBA as a top-10 draft pick.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 28, 2022, 03:03:21 PM
Pat Baldwin Sr cost his son a ton of money. No meaningful NIL at Milwaukee where he could have made some money at Duke, probably dropped 15-20 spots at minimum in the draft because he was triple-teamed every time he touched the ball, and might even lose a full year of NBA earnings if he comes back to college. All that so Senior could get one more year at Milwaukee for a fraction of what his son would have made in the NBA as a top-10 draft pick.

I'm guessing his dad didn't push him one way or the other.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 28, 2022, 03:07:39 PM
I'm guessing his dad didn't push him one way or the other.

He offered him, which he never should have done. Even worse, he let him take the scholarship. Selfish parenting malpractice.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 28, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
He offered him, which he never should have done. Even worse, he let him take the scholarship. Selfish parenting malpractice.

I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 28, 2022, 03:21:48 PM
I'd be absolutely thrilled with the Bucks getting him late in the 1st.

He barely played last season and he was mediocre when he did. Very much an uphill battle to get back to basketball speed after that, especially at such a higher level than what he's competed at so far.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 28, 2022, 03:24:36 PM
He barely played last season and he was mediocre when he did. Very much an uphill battle to get back to basketball speed after that, especially at such a higher level than what he's competed at so far.


The Bucks wouldn't need him to produce right away, but he has the potential.  I agree with wades here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 28, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
He offered him, which he never should have done. Even worse, he let him take the scholarship. Selfish parenting malpractice.

He should raise his kid how he sees fit.

It's all about the second contract in the NBA.  His one year in college won't determine whether he develops into a guy who gets that second contract or not.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 28, 2022, 03:27:24 PM

The Bucks wouldn't need him to produce right away, but he has the potential.  I agree with wades here.

I understand, but thrilled is certainly not the adjective I'd pick to describe it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 28, 2022, 03:27:44 PM

The Bucks wouldn't need him to produce right away, but he has the potential.  I agree with wades here.

Feels very boom/bust, and when you can get a guy who was a consensus top-10 pick a year earlier, that boom potential seems worth it. Similar to a Michael Porter Jr, who has shown flashes in the NBA but Denver probably still isn't sure he'll meet the hype he had when he first came to college (and when they handed him an extension last year).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 28, 2022, 03:29:21 PM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1519771723557650432?cxt=HHwWgICypZOVqJcqAAAA

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
St. Bonaventure’s Kyle Lofton has hit the transfer portal, the portal told me.

One of the best PG’s in the country.

12.8 points and 5.9 assists this season.

Shaka got some first hand scouting on him  :-X
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 28, 2022, 03:40:18 PM
Feels very boom/bust, and when you can get a guy who was a consensus top-10 pick a year earlier, that boom potential seems worth it. Similar to a Michael Porter Jr, who has shown flashes in the NBA but Denver probably still isn't sure he'll meet the hype he had when he first came to college (and when they handed him an extension last year).

Agree about Baldwin being boom or bust.  On one hand, he's a former top 10 prospect  that's been injured.  Maybe he gets healthy, regains his form, and turns out to be a 6-9 shot maker.

On the other hand, maybe Baldwin was an early bloomer and he's been passed up by several prospects.  But the injuries cloud the picture.  So it's really hard to tell exactly how Baldwin stacks up as a prospect.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 28, 2022, 03:41:59 PM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1519771723557650432?cxt=HHwWgICypZOVqJcqAAAA

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
St. Bonaventure’s Kyle Lofton has hit the transfer portal, the portal told me.

One of the best PG’s in the country.

12.8 points and 5.9 assists this season.

Shaka got some first hand scouting on him  :-X

Osun Osunniyi also hit the portal. The Bonnies now have 9 players in the portal. If everyone in the portal leaves, they will return a total of 4 points from last season. Not 4 points per game, but 4 points, like Rowsey doing The Thing.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on April 28, 2022, 04:06:25 PM
Osun Osunniyi also hit the portal. The Bonnies now have 9 players in the portal. If everyone in the portal leaves, they will return a total of 4 points from last season. Not 4 points per game, but 4 points, like Rowsey doing The Thing.

Osun and Lofton are apparently a package deal. Probably keeps MU out of the Osunniyi sweepstakes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 28, 2022, 10:08:00 PM
Miami Hurricane Isaiah Wong, all-ACC, wants more NIL $ or he’ll transfer. Yeah, $ won’t create issues. No problem.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on April 28, 2022, 10:17:43 PM
Miami Hurricane Isaiah Wong, all-ACC, wants more NIL $ or he’ll transfer. Yeah, $ won’t create issues. No problem.
Same as when someone wants more playing time. Or writes a letter because he isn't getting to shoot as much as he wants....
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 28, 2022, 10:23:11 PM
Same as when someone wants more playing time. Or writes a letter because he isn't getting to shoot as much as he wants....

Just more more headache for a coach to deal with.  Add it to the list. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on April 28, 2022, 10:23:30 PM
Same as when someone wants more playing time. Or writes a letter because he isn't getting to shoot as much as he wants....
i’m wondering if Wong wrote a letter? 😂
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on April 28, 2022, 10:41:30 PM
Miami Hurricane Isaiah Wong, all-ACC, wants more NIL $ or he’ll transfer. Yeah, $ won’t create issues. No problem.

It was very public that Pack got a huge deal so I’m not surprised some of his teammates want the same.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on April 28, 2022, 11:17:26 PM
Thought the Bonnie’s played 6 super seniors, that’s at least what the announcers indicated when they wiped out Marquette this year.  How could they have 9 in the portal?

Either way, fun to see such a cocky fan base get their roster wiped out. 


Osun Osunniyi also hit the portal. The Bonnies now have 9 players in the portal. If everyone in the portal leaves, they will return a total of 4 points from last season. Not 4 points per game, but 4 points, like Rowsey doing The Thing.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 29, 2022, 06:09:35 AM
Miami Hurricane Isaiah Wong, all-ACC, wants more NIL $ or he’ll transfer. Yeah, $ won’t create issues. No problem.

This lies squarely on the NCAA, the member institutions, and their hesitancy to take action in this space.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 29, 2022, 06:28:38 AM
People are actually surprised with this ?

Been happening for years, but it’s just in a public space now.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 29, 2022, 08:44:15 AM
People are actually surprised with this ?

Been happening for years, but it’s just in a public space now.
I think the people who thought NIL was no big deal and over due are the ones who are surprised.

People who raised concern about NIL read the tea leaves correctly.

<note: there is nothing pro or con about NIL in this post>
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on April 29, 2022, 08:49:19 AM
I think the people who thought NIL was no big deal and over due are the ones who are surprised.

People who raised concern about NIL read the tea leaves correctly.

<note: there is nothing pro or con about NIL in this post>

If people knew that players were going to the highest bidder for decades, just under the table, why would they be concerned about NIL?  It's the same thing, it's just above board now.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 29, 2022, 09:08:42 AM
I think the people who thought NIL was no big deal and over due are the ones who are surprised.

People who raised concern about NIL read the tea leaves correctly.

<note: there is nothing pro or con about NIL in this post>

No one is surprised by this. Some just don't see it as a problem
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 29, 2022, 09:19:48 AM
Quite happy it’s happening.  It’s about time
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 29, 2022, 09:27:54 AM
If people knew that players were going to the highest bidder for decades, just under the table, why would they be concerned about NIL?  It's the same thing, it's just above board now.

Wade’s,

I’m not so sure it’s the same thing.  Pack is getting life changing money. The amounts will go up from here because it is above board. 

The under the table money couldn’t have been that great or the emphasis on getting paid in the pros would not have been as strong among the players.  The NIL money in some cases now will be more than pros make.

There was not as much knowledge about what other players were getting from the underworld before and players could not be as upset with getting less.  Now it will happen regularly.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 29, 2022, 09:42:38 AM
The NCAA could have embraced NIL years ago and set up some structure.  But they didn't and now we have the wild west version of NIL.

Not sure how things will play out, but the NCAA has proven to be a toothless, incompetent facade for decades.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DFW HOYA on April 29, 2022, 09:58:34 AM
Three more exits from Georgetown, even a walk-on.

Donald Carey, G, 10.9 ppg
Collin Holloway, F, 7.2 ppg
Chuma Azinge, G, 0.6 ppg
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on April 29, 2022, 04:43:13 PM
https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status/1520139297978040321?s=21&t=jy1cF4FN4d-dlJrvp-CquA

kids these days just don’t want to handle the adversity that we all did growing up
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: al1984 on April 29, 2022, 07:11:06 PM
The NCAA could have embraced NIL years ago and set up some structure.  But they didn't and now we have the wild west version of NIL.

Not sure how things will play out, but the NCAA has proven to be a toothless, incompetent facade for decades.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 29, 2022, 08:08:16 PM
The NCAA could have embraced NIL years ago and set up some structure.  But they didn't and now we have the wild west version of NIL.

Not sure how things will play out, but the NCAA has proven to be a toothless, incompetent facade for decades.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.
They could have, but would the results ultimately be any different.  Once that cash door is open………….
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 29, 2022, 08:31:03 PM
They could have, but would the results ultimately be any different.  Once that cash door is open………….

If they had willingly put structure and rules in ahead of time that benefited everyone involved and didn't force the states to turn it into the Wild West? I think the results would be absolutely different.

This is the failing of Emmert and why he was a disaster, and why Marquette should have a clear, detailed, public facing NIL. The reason we are where we are is basically the NCAA said "go for it, no rules, no regulations." Of course it's a clusterf**k. This disaster is why Marquette should be leading on this. Because if you don't lead, someone else will and by the time you catch up, you'll already be too far behind to compete.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 29, 2022, 10:07:31 PM
Blaming Ememert for the NCAA problems is like blaming the McDonald's manager for the McDonald's menu.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 29, 2022, 10:31:57 PM
Blaming Ememert for the NCAA problems is like blaming the McDonald's manager for the McDonald's menu.

Eh, more like blaming the McDonald's CEO. He's not the one making the menu changes but ultimately the buck stops with him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 30, 2022, 06:03:07 AM
Blaming Ememert for the NCAA problems is like blaming the McDonald's manager for the McDonald's menu.

No, Emmert isn't Roger Goodell, where he's just a body shield for the NCAA member presidents. He's the one that oversaw the NCAA Tournament insurance at 60% of its value so when they lost 2020, all the members lost tons of money. He's the one who has overseen stagnant TV revenue growth while other live sport values have exploded. It's not just his inaction and simultaneous bungling on the transfer portal, it's how the NCAA has screwed up repeatedly with their golden goose for years.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 30, 2022, 10:10:52 AM
No, Emmert isn't Roger Goodell, where he's just a body shield for the NCAA member presidents. He's the one that oversaw the NCAA Tournament insurance at 60% of its value so when they lost 2020, all the members lost tons of money. He's the one who has overseen stagnant TV revenue growth while other live sport values have exploded. It's not just his inaction and simultaneous bungling on the transfer portal, it's how the NCAA has screwed up repeatedly with their golden goose for years.
If Emmeret or any NCAA President had the power you'd like to think he has, he'd be making waaaay more money. He is mostly a figure head of an organization that does a great job with 98% of its sports and athletes.  The NCAA was created by and run by it's member institutions

The NCAA president has always been the whipping boy of the media and cheating schools. I 100% guaranty you the next president will be treated the same because the position has little power. But the media will lazily conclude that it was a bad hire.

I think there are legitimate problems with the NCAA but people need to hold MU, Texas, Washington State, Norfolk State, etc, etc. accountable. 

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2022, 10:23:41 AM
If Emmeret or any NCAA President had the power you'd like to think he has, he'd be making waaaay more money. He is mostly a figure head of an organization that does a great job with 98% of its sports and athletes.  The NCAA was created by and run by it's member institutions

The NCAA president has always been the whipping boy of the media and cheating schools. I 100% guaranty you the next president will be treated the same because the position has little power. But the media will lazily conclude that it was a bad hire.

I think there are legitimate problems with the NCAA but people need to hold MU, Texas, Washington State, Norfolk State, etc, etc. accountable.

This is accurate.  School presidents have washed their hands of the decision making for decades in these matters because they have had a whipping boy, whether the NCAA President or League Commissioners. 

That doesn’t excuse Emmert who was terrible and would have been advised to say less at times but the people that run universities have a lot of Captain Renault in them
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on April 30, 2022, 10:31:16 AM
This is accurate.  School presidents have washed their hands of the decision making for decades in these matters because they have had a whipping boy, whether the NCAA President or League Commissioners. 

That doesn’t excuse Emmert who was terrible and would have been advised to say less at times but the people that run universities have a lot of Captain Renault in them
Yes, Emmert could have done a better job.  But, in the end, he is rather the low man on the totem pole doing what the member schools and their presidents and trustees tell their ADs to do and who work with conference commissioners who both work with the NCAA administration.  Tons of blame all over the place.  Emmert is indeed a figurehead.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2022, 10:48:31 AM
Yes, Emmert could have done a better job.  But, in the end, he is rather the low man on the totem pole doing what the member schools and their presidents and trustees tell their ADs to do and who work with conference commissioners who both work with the NCAA administration.  Tons of blame all over the place.  Emmert is indeed a figurehead.

I think back to Gordon Gee standing at a podium saying he hopes Jim Tressel doesn’t fire him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on April 30, 2022, 10:54:33 AM
Unlike Goodell, Emmert had an actual job. The NCAA Tournament insurance policy, the NCAA Tournament rights negotiations, and yes, leading on policy. Just because he treated his job like he was just a meat shield doesn't mean that's what he was limited to.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2022, 10:55:27 AM
Unlike Goodell, Emmert had an actual job. The NCAA Tournament insurance policy, the NCAA Tournament rights negotiations, and yes, leading on policy. Just because he treated his job like he was just a meat shield doesn't mean that's what he was limited to.

I don’t disagree and think both things are true.  He was terrible at his job and university presidents have been unprepared for a long time
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 30, 2022, 11:17:34 AM
Unlike Goodell, Emmert had an actual job. The NCAA Tournament insurance policy, the NCAA Tournament rights negotiations, and yes, leading on policy. Just because he treated his job like he was just a meat shield doesn't mean that's what he was limited to.
IF that is true, then shame on the members for going dirt cheap on compensating for that position. They could have paid FMV for someone to be in that position of power. The schools are ultimately at fault.

If MU hires a coach willing to take $100K per year, I'm not going to be mad at the coach if we go 2-28.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2022, 12:07:57 PM
Milwaukee native James Graham heading to Missouri State.  Was at Maryland
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Miss Katie’s on May 02, 2022, 09:01:26 AM
So is it correct that nobody other than Greg can transfer now without sitting a year?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 02, 2022, 09:07:42 AM
So is it correct that nobody other than Greg can transfer now without sitting a year?

Unless granted a waiver, that is correct. Unless there's someone that entered the portal late yesterday that hasn't been announced yet.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on May 02, 2022, 09:09:54 AM
So is it correct that nobody other than Greg can transfer now without sitting a year?

Without a waiver. So if a player gets out recruited at MU now, wants to leave, and Shaka wouldn’t mind either way. Shaka might say “there is no longer a scholarship available” to allow the player to be granted a waiver.

But my guess is no one is transferring at this point. They wouldn’t be guaranteed to get a waiver.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 02, 2022, 09:46:42 AM
Baylor Scheiermann cuts his list to five: Creighton, Clemson, Nebraska, Duke, and Arkansas. If he goes to Omaha, I don't think it's hyperbole to call the Jays legit title contenders. Top-10 team for sure.

From the other Baylor, Matthew Mayer entered the transfer portal late last night. Might be worth a call if Justin ends up going pro.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Johnny B on May 02, 2022, 10:04:27 AM
mayer wants big nil mpmey
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on May 02, 2022, 10:14:11 AM
mayer wants big nil mpmey
Does NC have a spot open now? He can take the Brady Manek spot.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: swoopem on May 02, 2022, 10:44:29 AM
mayer wants big nil mpmey

Surprised Baylor won’t pay him. They loved cheating
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 02, 2022, 11:02:30 AM
Surprised Baylor won’t pay him. They loved cheating

That was the rumor about Scott Drew, I'm not sure it was ever true. I think that was spread because people couldn't figure out why he was having success. Turns out he's actually just a really good coach.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 02, 2022, 11:04:02 AM
Surprised Baylor won’t pay him. They loved cheating

And winning national titles
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 02, 2022, 11:12:05 AM
That was the rumor about Scott Drew, I'm not sure it was ever true. I think that was spread because people couldn't figure out why he was having success. Turns out he's actually just a really good coach.

It was 1000% true.  But it's not cheating anymore
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on May 02, 2022, 12:51:01 PM
Kerwin Walton UNC last second portal entry
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 02, 2022, 01:04:37 PM
Kerwin Walton UNC last second portal entry

Yeah, these might trickle in over the next couple/few days as paperwork gets filed and discovered by media. So I don't think it's a given yet that Justin hasn't put in for the portal. Here's hoping!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on May 02, 2022, 01:12:14 PM
Yeah, these might trickle in over the next couple/few days as paperwork gets filed and discovered by media. So I don't think it's a given yet that Justin hasn't put in for the portal. Here's hoping!

“Paperwork gets filed”  😂😂😂

The NCAA has all the portal entries in triplicate in filing cabinets somewhere?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 02, 2022, 01:21:07 PM
“Paperwork gets filed”  😂😂😂

The NCAA has all the portal entries in triplicate in filing cabinets somewhere?

Player keeps the white copy.  School keeps the pink. NCAA keeps the gold.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on May 02, 2022, 01:38:57 PM
Player keeps the white copy.  School keeps the pink. NCAA keeps the gold.
Needs to be typed as well. Double spaced. No fancy dot matrix printer either.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 02, 2022, 08:29:04 PM
That was the rumor about Scott Drew, I'm not sure it was ever true. I think that was spread because people couldn't figure out why he was having success. Turns out he's actually just a really good coach.

Other coaches didn’t call him “The Dirty Preacher” for no reason at all.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 02, 2022, 08:37:03 PM
Other coaches didn’t call him “The Dirty Preacher” for no reason at all.

Now they call him national champion
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on May 02, 2022, 08:42:37 PM
Sounds like Creighton may land both Baylor Scheierman and Kerwin Walton
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 02, 2022, 08:43:15 PM
Now they call him national champion

Back to back champs: “The Dirty Preacher” and “Dollar Bill.”
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on May 03, 2022, 09:36:15 AM
Sounds like Creighton may land both Baylor Scheierman and Kerwin Walton

Halcyon days on the Plantation.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 09:42:23 AM
Nice addition for Creighton. Still not in on them as National contenders.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 03, 2022, 09:55:03 AM
Nice addition for Creighton. Still not in on them as National contenders.

I am
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 03, 2022, 10:03:33 AM
“Paperwork gets filed”  😂😂😂

The NCAA has all the portal entries in triplicate in filing cabinets somewhere?

It's a colloquial term, which you already knew, but I'm glad you got to have some fun.

I just hope they let us know when all the t's are crossed and i's are dotted. (No doubt with quill pens.)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on May 03, 2022, 10:54:34 AM
I am

They are definitely in the conversation - probably McDermott’s most talented team ever.  They would’ve beat Kansas this year if Kaulkbrenner wasn’t hurt.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 11:03:27 AM
They are definitely in the conversation - probably McDermott’s most talented team ever.  They would’ve beat Kansas this year if Kaulkbrenner wasn’t hurt.

Solid collection of players but they still lack that go to guy that every team who wins it all seems to have.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on May 03, 2022, 11:05:06 AM
Solid collection of players but they still lack that go to guy that every team who wins it all seems to have.

They have go to guys - Kaluma and Alexander.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 11:18:55 AM
They have go to guys - Kaluma and Alexander.

Good players.

Recent champions had Davion Mitchell, Jared Butler, Ochai Agbaji, Jalen Brunson, Donte Divincenzo, Mikal Bridges, Joel Berry, Ty Jerome, DeAndre Hunter etc.

They just seem to lack that difference maker. Time will tell. I think they are definitely capable of winning the Big East. That is for sure.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2022, 11:26:27 AM
They have go to guys - Kaluma and Alexander.

Kaluma : 2023 :: Justin : 2022
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 11:36:59 AM
Kaluma : 2023 :: Justin : 2022

They'll be good. I just think their ceiling may be capped. Time will tell!

Weren't they in the 60 range of KenPom? and lost their best performer from 2022 in Hawkins along with their best shot maker in O'Connell.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2022, 11:50:40 AM
They'll be good. I just think their ceiling may be capped. Time will tell!

Weren't they in the 60 range of KenPom? and lost their best performer from 2022 in Hawkins along with their best shot maker in O'Connell.

O'Connell made a big shot against us, I wouldn't call him their best shot maker. Hawkins was probably their best player, but Scheierman is effectively a Hawkins clone that did it at a higher level coming in to Creighton.

I'm usually the first to dismiss Creighton. I thought the top-5 rankings they were being handed in April 2020 were ridiculous, even more so once Ty-Shon Alexander left. But this team returns everyone they really need and have ideal replacements for the guys they lost. The big question was shooting, but Scheierman and Walton are exactly what they need, and McDermott's staff has done great developing shooters in the past. This is exactly the kind of team you look for when you are trying to identify breakouts. Solid defense, return most of their minutes, key freshmen becoming sophomores, and fill all the gaps with incoming players.

Not only that, but last year was by far the worst ranked offense McDermott ever had at Creighton. That will most likely rebound in a big way with all the young guys getting another year in the system. They're going to be a load to deal with.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 11:57:38 AM
Busting Brackets lists Marquette as a possible destination for Patrick Baldwin Jr. should Justin Lewis keep his name in the draft.

I'm lost on how Patrick Baldwin Jr. could be ranked higher than Justin in mocks, but he is.

I get that the NBA drafts on potential, but Lewis is far more explosive and athletic with a larger wingspan. Justin also shot 35% from 3 and was the best player in the Big East while PBJ struggled at 26% scoring 12 ppg in the Horizon league and has a lengthy injury history.

All the numbers and measurements say Justin is the better player and if we had the choice right now I'd take Justin without even thinking twice both for Marquette and the NBA.

*Below is the write up on Marquette being a fit for PBJ should he stay in school and Justin leave*

Marquette Golden Eagles

One of the two state of Wisconsin programs on the list, the Eagles could very well lose star wing and leading scorer Justin Lewis, who is currently in the NBA Draft process. If he’s gone, Baldwin could simply replace him in the lineup and take over his usage on offense and be the next star in the Big East.

Head coach Shaka Smart has a hefty list of players sent to the NBA from his days at Texas and his defensive scheme would help boost his overall game and make him more ready for the next level. Plus, it’s a chance to stay close by and remain under the radar, if that’s something the forward would prefer instead of playing on a giant national stage.


Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on May 03, 2022, 12:01:09 PM
If I were the Bucks, I would take Baldwin over Lewis in a nanosecond.  I think Justin at best becomes a rotation player who is ultimately replaceable.  Baldwin's upside is higher.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2022, 12:01:17 PM
My intuition says Marquette wouldn't have any interest in Baldwin. It was pretty clear after Smart was hired that Baldwin's camp was heavily trying to float the idea of PBS coming on as an assistant and bringing PBJ with him, but it never gained any traction inside the Al. Might that change if Justin stays in and they don't land Abogidi or Ramey? Possibly, but I'd say it's an unlikely scenario just being pushed by someone who sees that Marquette is in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on May 03, 2022, 12:03:39 PM
Busting Brackets lists Marquette as a possible destination for Patrick Baldwin Jr. should Justin Lewis keep his name in the draft.

I'm lost on how Patrick Baldwin Jr. could be ranked higher than Justin in mocks, but he is.

I get that the NBA drafts on potential, but Lewis is far more explosive and athletic with a larger wingspan. Justin also shot 35% from 3 and was the best player in the Big East while PBJ struggled at 26% scoring 12 ppg in the Horizon league and has a lengthy injury history.

All the numbers and measurements say Justin is the better player and if we had the choice right now I'd take Justin without even thinking twice both for Marquette and the NBA.

*Below is the write up on Marquette being a fit for PBJ should he stay in school and Justin leave*

Marquette Golden Eagles

One of the two state of Wisconsin programs on the list, the Eagles could very well lose star wing and leading scorer Justin Lewis, who is currently in the NBA Draft process. If he’s gone, Baldwin could simply replace him in the lineup and take over his usage on offense and be the next star in the Big East.

Head coach Shaka Smart has a hefty list of players sent to the NBA from his days at Texas and his defensive scheme would help boost his overall game and make him more ready for the next level. Plus, it’s a chance to stay close by and remain under the radar, if that’s something the forward would prefer instead of playing on a giant national stage.


He’ll land at a big time program if he doesn’t stay in the draft.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 12:07:05 PM
My intuition says Marquette wouldn't have any interest in Baldwin. It was pretty clear after Smart was hired that Baldwin's camp was heavily trying to float the idea of PBS coming on as an assistant and bringing PBJ with him, but it never gained any traction inside the Al. Might that change if Justin stays in and they don't land Abogidi or Ramey? Possibly, but I'd say it's an unlikely scenario just being pushed by someone who sees that Marquette is in Milwaukee.

I agree.

I really am just blown away by the remaining hype surrounding PBJ.

To me, Lewis is head and shoulders ahead of him in almost every category. PBJ is younger, but when we are talking a 19 year old vs. a 20 year old I don't think it matters at all.

To see Lewis in the 50 range while PBJ is still lingering around the lottery is crazy to me.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 12:12:44 PM
If I were the Bucks, I would take Baldwin over Lewis in a nanosecond.  I think Justin at best becomes a rotation player who is ultimately replaceable.  Baldwin's upside is higher.

I guess it all depends on the situation surrounding each team which is fair.  PBJ has a pretty lengthy injury history and Justin has already shown the ability to make massive strides in 1 year. Not to mention he performed significantly better against significantly higher competition.

For Lewis to be projected 30ish spots lower than PBJ is what really throws me off.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2022, 12:14:57 PM
I agree.

I really am just blown away by the remaining hype surrounding PBJ.

To me, Lewis is head and shoulders ahead of him in almost every category. PBJ is younger, but when we are talking a 19 year old vs. a 20 year old I don't think it matters at all.

To see Lewis in the 50 range while PBJ is still lingering around the lottery is crazy to me.

Given the choice, I'd take PBJ ahead of Lewis. That could end up backfiring, but if you look at both players at age 18, there is zero question that PBJ was far, far ahead.  He then looked fine through the first few games of the season, but playing sparsely while getting triple-teamed whenever he touched the ball in conference play, the kid never really had a chance. And frankly, he simply had poor coaching this year; PBS was already well on his way to being fired after four straight losing seasons and only got the extra year because he was bringing in his five-star son to a place that never dreams of that type of recruit.

Scouts will have to decide what they believe, the 4-5 years they were watching Baldwin from middle school to high school or the one year where he played sporadically, was triple-teamed when he did, and had some of the worst coaching in all of Division I? I think some team in the 20s is going to get a steal.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 03, 2022, 12:17:11 PM
To me, Lewis is head and shoulders ahead of him in almost every category. PBJ is younger, but when we are talking a 19 year old vs. a 20 year old I don't think it matters at all.

Baldwin is taller, quicker, a better shooter, and a better ballhandler than Justin is.

Justin has more length and is more physical, better around the rim.

Both have issues with their motors being inconsistent.

I wouldn't put too much stock into what happened at UWM, with the injuries and lack of talent around him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 12:17:17 PM
Given the choice, I'd take PBJ ahead of Lewis. That could end up backfiring, but if you look at both players at age 18, there is zero question that PBJ was far, far ahead.  He then looked fine through the first few games of the season, but playing sparsely while getting triple-teamed whenever he touched the ball in conference play, the kid never really had a chance. And frankly, he simply had poor coaching this year; PBS was already well on his way to being fired after four straight losing seasons and only got the extra year because he was bringing in his five-star son to a place that never dreams of that type of recruit.

Scouts will have to decide what they believe, the 4-5 years they were watching Baldwin from middle school to high school or the one year where he played sporadically, was triple-teamed when he did, and had some of the worst coaching in all of Division I? I think some team in the 20s is going to get a steal.

He's in a unique spot for sure. Could just go pro or head back to school and make a nice chunk in NIL while playing his way right back into the lottery if he plays how he was expected to from the jump.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 12:23:45 PM
Baldwin is taller, quicker, a better shooter, and a better ballhandler than Justin is.

Justin has more length and is more physical, better around the rim.

Both have issues with their motors being inconsistent.

I wouldn't put too much stock into what happened at UWM, with the injuries and lack of talent around him.

Motors being inconsistent? I can't think of a single time watching Marquette this year where I said "I wish Justin was trying harder".

I don't think his "motor" being a problem is even a remote concern. Where did that come from?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on May 03, 2022, 12:50:40 PM
Busting Brackets lists Marquette as a possible destination for Patrick Baldwin Jr. should Justin Lewis keep his name in the draft.

I'm lost on how Patrick Baldwin Jr. could be ranked higher than Justin in mocks, but he is.

I get that the NBA drafts on potential, but Lewis is far more explosive and athletic with a larger wingspan. Justin also shot 35% from 3 and was the best player in the Big East while PBJ struggled at 26% scoring 12 ppg in the Horizon league and has a lengthy injury history.

All the numbers and measurements say Justin is the better player and if we had the choice right now I'd take Justin without even thinking twice both for Marquette and the NBA.

*Below is the write up on Marquette being a fit for PBJ should he stay in school and Justin leave*

Marquette Golden Eagles

One of the two state of Wisconsin programs on the list, the Eagles could very well lose star wing and leading scorer Justin Lewis, who is currently in the NBA Draft process. If he’s gone, Baldwin could simply replace him in the lineup and take over his usage on offense and be the next star in the Big East.

Head coach Shaka Smart has a hefty list of players sent to the NBA from his days at Texas and his defensive scheme would help boost his overall game and make him more ready for the next level. Plus, it’s a chance to stay close by and remain under the radar, if that’s something the forward would prefer instead of playing on a giant national stage.

PBJ, if he had health this past season would be a lotto.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Nukem2 on May 03, 2022, 12:57:48 PM
PBJ, if he had health this past season would be a lotto.
Health is the big issue with PBJ as he missed all or almost all of his senior HS season due to ankle(?) injury that continued to bother him at UW-M.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
PBJ, if he had health this past season would be a lotto.

Quite possibly.

But he didn't, and he hasn't for 3 years. A 19 year old with consistent injuries in 3 straight seasons has to be a concern for an NBA team, maybe not so much for a College looking to add him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 03, 2022, 12:59:18 PM
Motors being inconsistent? I can't think of a single time watching Marquette this year where I said "I wish Justin was trying harder".

Then you weren't watching terribly closely.

I'm not saying he's lazy or anything like that. But at several points you could tell his defensive effort was tied to how well he was playing offensively. And that's pretty common for young players. He'll have to get past that at the next level, as he certainly won't be the focal point of a pro offense.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 01:01:07 PM
Then you weren't watching terribly closely.

I'm not saying he's lazy or anything like that. But at several points you could tell his defensive effort was tied to how well he was playing offensively. And that's pretty common for young players. He'll have to get past that at the next level, as he certainly won't be the focal point of a pro offense.

No it wasn't. His effort was always there. He's just got a ways to go on the defensive end.

If he was as good defensively as he is offensively he'd be a top 25 pick.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 03, 2022, 01:01:48 PM
Then you weren't watching terribly closely.

I'm not saying he's lazy or anything like that. But at several points you could tell his defensive effort was tied to how well he was playing offensively. And that's pretty common for young players. He'll have to get past that at the next level, as he certainly won't be the focal point of a pro offense.

It's common for all players, including pros.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 03, 2022, 01:02:58 PM
It's common for all players, including pros.

Except Justin, apparently.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DoctorV on May 03, 2022, 01:10:24 PM
Sounds to me that the best case scenario for all parties involved is for BOTH Justin Lewis and Patrick Baldwin Junya to matriculate at Marquette for the upcoming season.

They play interchangeably at the 3/4 and both play their way into the lottery, while coach Smart and MU waltz to the Elite8.

Don’t worry about finding room… 🤪
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 01:15:50 PM
Except Justin, apparently.

Every player can give 100% and still NOT perform to their capabilities.

Never once was Justin's effort a concern. Is it possible that he was fatigued and slow to the punch in spots? Definitely. But the effort or motor was never a concern.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2022, 01:26:06 PM
Sounds to me that the best case scenario for all parties involved is for BOTH Justin Lewis and Patrick Baldwin Junya to matriculate at Marquette for the upcoming season.

They play interchangeably at the 3/4 and both play their way into the lottery, while coach Smart and MU waltz to the Elite8.

Don’t worry about finding room… 🤪

Sure...Pat Baldwin can walk on. Let his dad pay the tuition...it's the least he owes his son after Junior got him one more year of $350k salary at Milwaukee.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on May 03, 2022, 02:12:36 PM
Sounds to me that the best case scenario for all parties involved is for BOTH Justin Lewis and Patrick Baldwin Junya to matriculate at Marquette for the upcoming season.

They play interchangeably at the 3/4 and both play their way into the lottery, while coach Smart and MU waltz to the Elite8.

Don’t worry about finding room… 🤪
I'm 100% on board with this Badger ass kicking scenario
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on May 03, 2022, 02:29:14 PM
Meanwhile the rodents are adding some transfers. The spelling error is Potrykus' and uncorrected on jsonline.

Wisconsin basketball lands Max Klesmit, a guard from Neenah transferring from Wofford. He joins guard Kamari McGee, a graduate of Racine St. Cathernine's, who is transferring to UW after playing one season at UW-Green Bay.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 03, 2022, 02:48:00 PM
Meanwhile the rodents are adding some transfers. The spelling error is Potrykus' and uncorrected on jsonline.

Wisconsin basketball lands Max Klesmit, a guard from Neenah transferring from Wofford. He joins guard Kamari McGee, a graduate of Racine St. Cathernine's, who is transferring to UW after playing one season at UW-Green Bay.

I’m surprised their credits transferred
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on May 03, 2022, 03:09:55 PM
Meanwhile the rodents are adding some transfers. The spelling error is Potrykus' and uncorrected on jsonline.

Wisconsin basketball lands Max Klesmit, a guard from Neenah transferring from Wofford. He joins guard Kamari McGee, a graduate of Racine St. Cathernine's, who is transferring to UW after playing one season at UW-Green Bay.

Has Potrykus stated he's a better Fletcher Magee yet?  Maybe the mid major Joe Weiskamp?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on May 03, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
Whatever happened to Washington kid?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 03, 2022, 03:46:54 PM
Whatever happened to Washington kid?

Committed to Arizona State
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on May 03, 2022, 03:49:56 PM
Meanwhile the rodents are adding some transfers. The spelling error is Potrykus' and uncorrected on jsonline.

Wisconsin basketball lands Max Klesmit, a guard from Neenah transferring from Wofford. He joins guard Kamari McGee, a graduate of Racine St. Cathernine's, who is transferring to UW after playing one season at UW-Green Bay.

Did Davison get his 8th year of eligibility approved yet?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 04:42:08 PM
To all those who said they want Emoni Bates at Marquette.

"Spoke to a source this morning with close knowledge of Emoni Bates’ exit from Memphis.

Bates’ behavior along with conversations he had with Memphis recruits about head coach Penny Hardaway, are some factors that led to him being told he can “pack his stuff and go.”
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 03, 2022, 04:51:09 PM
To all those who said they want Emoni Bates at Marquette.

"Spoke to a source this morning with close knowledge of Emoni Bates’ exit from Memphis.

Bates’ behavior along with conversations he had with Memphis recruits about head coach Penny Hardaway, are some factors that led to him being told he can “pack his stuff and go.”


Disgruntled player bad mouths coach on exit, news at 10
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2022, 05:22:24 PM
Whatever happened to Washington kid?

Warren Washington from Nevada went to Arizona State, as TAMU said. Efe Abogidi from Washington State is pursuing NBA Draft options but is still in the portal with Marquette as one of the 12 teams on his list.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 05:27:06 PM
Disgruntled player bad mouths coach on exit, news at 10

Sounds like the opposite.  He was told to leave.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jockey on May 03, 2022, 05:56:52 PM
Emoni Bates has Depaul in his Final 6.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 03, 2022, 05:58:53 PM
To all those who said they want Emoni Bates at Marquette.

"Spoke to a source this morning with close knowledge of Emoni Bates’ exit from Memphis.

Bates’ behavior along with conversations he had with Memphis recruits about head coach Penny Hardaway, are some factors that led to him being told he can “pack his stuff and go.”


The source of this is a tweet from some dude named Kory Woods, who describes himself as "Detroit Lions beat reporter/Pro Wrestling writer for @woodwardsport."
Sounds like the kind of guy to have his finger on the pulse of the Memphis program.

You're on a very weird crusade to anonymously attack the character of a teenager.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 03, 2022, 06:01:57 PM
The source of this is a tweet from some dude named Kory Woods, who describes himself as "Detroit Lions beat reporter/Pro Wrestling writer for @woodwardsport."
Sounds like the kind of guy to have his finger on the pulse of the Memphis program.

You're on a very weird crusade to anonymously attack the character of a teenager.

Also, it’s not like there’s this huge push from people on scoop to bring Bates in.  If Shaka wants him and thinks he’ll work at Marquette, I’d support it.  If he doesn’t want to and it appears it’s a non-starter anyway, then I’ll support that, too.  Bashing Bates is something Badger fans would do because they know he’s not coming
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Spirit Of James on May 03, 2022, 06:22:31 PM
The source of this is a tweet from some dude named Kory Woods, who describes himself as "Detroit Lions beat reporter/Pro Wrestling writer for @woodwardsport."
Sounds like the kind of guy to have his finger on the pulse of the Memphis program.

You're on a very weird crusade to anonymously attack the character of a teenager.


Sparty fans have been destroying Bates ever since he de-committed from them to play for Memphis. I have no clue who Kory Woods is, but my guess is that tweet could be coming from behind green and white colored glasses.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on May 03, 2022, 06:45:39 PM
Also, it’s not like there’s this huge push from people on scoop to bring Bates in.  If Shaka wants him and thinks he’ll work at Marquette, I’d support it.  If he doesn’t want to and it appears it’s a non-starter anyway, then I’ll support that, too.  Bashing Bates is something Badger fans would do because they know he’s not coming

This.  No one was ever pushing for Bates to come to MU.  It was more saying that those that didn't want him because of his "culture" were sounding very familiar to when badger fans would say "Bo cooled on him".  But some posters have a narrative to push.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 03, 2022, 08:03:43 PM
This.  No one was ever pushing for Bates to come to MU.  It was more saying that those that didn't want him because of his "culture" were sounding very familiar to when badger fans would say "Bo cooled on him".  But some posters have a narrative to push.

Exactly.
If Shaka wasn't interested in Bates for basketball reasons, cool.
But the need for some to make it about Bates somehow being a bad kid is Badger-esque.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 03, 2022, 09:33:23 PM
He’s more than just a “bad kid.” His real first name is Norman!!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 03, 2022, 09:58:48 PM
The source of this is a tweet from some dude named Kory Woods, who describes himself as "Detroit Lions beat reporter/Pro Wrestling writer for @woodwardsport."
Sounds like the kind of guy to have his finger on the pulse of the Memphis program.

You're on a very weird crusade to anonymously attack the character of a teenager.

I'm not attacking anyone's character.

I've simply just pointed out that there was never a chance Shaka would look to add him because of the culture talk in recent weeks from Shaka himself. The name Emoni Bates has less to do with it than a player like Bates that is looking to get out of basketball at the college level as fast as possible that Shaka can't mold.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 03, 2022, 10:15:01 PM
He killed his own mother, but he keeps her body all dressed up in the motel!

Shaka's a pretty good judge of character, so I doubt he thinks Norman would fit his culture.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on May 04, 2022, 07:35:20 AM
The jury has spoken
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on May 06, 2022, 02:20:40 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1522632869394460673?s=20&t=asBMFpyMwBCkojzsTiznZw

Greg Elliot is looking at

Pittsburgh
Cleveland State
Colorado State
Maryland

Jake Presutti and Wojo- Capel connection at Pitt.
Cleveland state made him a priority from the start, close to home and will have the largest role.
Greg screams a Colorado St player, offense first team, that probably gets the best out of him.
Maryland, willard wants to fill out numbers in his first year with a player he is familiar with. At least a top 8 role on a talent riddled big ten team. Best basketball program.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on May 06, 2022, 03:02:43 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1522632869394460673?s=20&t=asBMFpyMwBCkojzsTiznZw

Greg Elliot is looking at

Pittsburgh
Cleveland State
Colorado State
Maryland

Jake Presutti and Wojo- Capel connection at Pitt.
Cleveland state made him a priority from the start, close to home and will have the largest role.
Greg screams a Colorado St player, offense first team, that probably gets the best out of him.
Maryland, willard wants to fill out numbers in his first year with a player he is familiar with. At least a top 8 role on a talent riddled big ten team. Best basketball program.
Greg has had a lot of interested parties . Will be interesting to see the route he takes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 06, 2022, 04:22:57 PM
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1522663638867189760?cxt=HHwWgICpseOgy6EqAAAA

Quote
Mark Miller
@WisBBYearbook
2021 Mr Basketball Brandon Podziemski of St John’s Northwestern Military plans to transfer to Santa Clara after playing at Illinois last year
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on May 06, 2022, 04:28:38 PM
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1522663638867189760?cxt=HHwWgICpseOgy6EqAAAA

Big time get for Sendek
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on May 11, 2022, 10:07:18 AM
Efe Abogidi did not get invited to either of the combines. I would guess his focus now will  be on where to transfer.

Last I read Efe whittled down his list of 35 names to about 12 and MU was in that list

Would be great if we can get Efe on campus.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DoctorV on May 11, 2022, 01:54:36 PM
Efe Abogidi did not get invited to either of the combines. I would guess his focus now will  be on where to transfer.

Last I read Efe whittled down his list of 35 names to about 12 and MU was in that list

Would be great Efe we can get Efe on campus.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on May 11, 2022, 02:43:57 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1522632869394460673?s=20&t=asBMFpyMwBCkojzsTiznZw

Greg Elliot is looking at

Pittsburgh
Cleveland State
Colorado State
Maryland

Greg has a visit scheduled with Pitt this weekend.  I think he'd actually see good playing time there, as they've had a lot of transfers and are lacking players with experience.  Granted, it's Pitt, but the allure of playing meaningful minutes in the ACC could be enough. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on May 13, 2022, 02:51:03 PM
Saint Bonaventure’s Osun Osunniyi transferring to Iowa State. RIP Bob Lanier
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on May 17, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
MU is out of the race for Abogidi

Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Washington State transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering the following programs:

Arizona
Maryland
Florida

Also considering a return to Washington State.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Boone on May 17, 2022, 11:52:13 AM
W/possible exception of his WA St teammate, Mouhamed Gueye, haven't seen us involved w/any other transfers.

If Lewis doesn't return, we may hit a new low in team rebounding.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 01:40:11 PM
Greg to Pitt.


@JonRothstein
Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 17, 2022, 01:43:21 PM
Greg to Pitt.


@JonRothstein
Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.

This is really gonna mess with me getting on board with the Eat Sh!t Pitt cheer.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on May 17, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
Greg to Pitt.


@JonRothstein
Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.
Excellent landing spot for Greg.

Nice feather in Jake Presutti’s hat for leading the charge .
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 02:15:20 PM
Greg to Pitt.


@JonRothstein
Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.

That seems like a poor choice. Their top two offensive options are back, so he likely won't meet the best player on a bad team criteria, they won't be good so he won't get the Theo John roleplayer going for a title option, while he could've stepped down a level and had a better chance at both leading a team and vying for a NCAA berth. Guess he really likes Jake.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 02:22:18 PM
That seems like a poor choice. Their top two offensive options are back, so he likely won't meet the best player on a bad team criteria, they won't be good so he won't get the Theo John roleplayer going for a title option, while he could've stepped down a level and had a better chance at both leading a team and vying for a NCAA berth. Guess he really likes Jake.

Crazy thought, but maybe his ego doesn't require him to feel like he's the best player on a low-level team. Maybe he just chose a place where he thinks he'll be happy.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 02:25:16 PM
Crazy thought, but maybe his ego doesn't require him to feel like he's the best player on a low-level team. Maybe he just chose a place where he thinks he'll be happy.

Could be. But after watching Jamal Cain win Horizon POY and both Koby McEwen and Jose Perez named to all-conference teams, it seems like a step down would be the best from a career perspective. Greg can do what he wants, just feels surprising considering the options.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on May 17, 2022, 02:26:38 PM
Every time you think you know what an 18-23 year old is going to do, they'll do something different.  My advice, stop trying to guess what an 19-23 year old will do.  Hope Greg can enjoy his final spin through a collegiate season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 02:29:19 PM
Could be. But after watching Jamal Cain win Horizon POY and both Koby McEwen and Jose Perez named to all-conference teams, it seems like a step down would be the best from a career perspective. Greg can do what he wants, just feels surprising considering the options.

How does being a top option on a low-level team improve his career? Pro league scouts don't care what kind of stats you put up in college, especially as a fifth-year senior.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on May 17, 2022, 02:29:46 PM
Every time you think you know what an 18-23 year old is going to do, they'll do something different.  My advice, stop trying to guess what an 19-23 year old will do.  Hope Greg can enjoy his final spin through a collegiate season.

So we may still make guesses on the 18 year olds?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 02:40:37 PM
How does being a top option on a low-level team improve his career? Pro league scouts don't care what kind of stats you put up in college, especially as a fifth-year senior.

Plenty of stars from low-level teams have parleyed that success into professional careers. Maybe not in the NBA, but it can certainly open doors.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on May 17, 2022, 02:59:30 PM
Plenty of stars from low-level teams have parleyed that success into professional careers. Maybe not in the NBA, but it can certainly open doors.

Jamal is a good example of this, since he's working out for NBA teams this spring.  I can't see that happening had he not gone to Oakland and dominated.

That being said, I think Greg knows he's not Jamal, so the appeal of stepping down might not be the same.  Greg's role at Cleveland St. might have been bigger, but I don't see him winning Horizon POY.  Now he'll get meaningful minutes in one of the best conferences in the nation, and he'll be a veteran leader.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on May 17, 2022, 03:03:01 PM
The book is out on Greg - He's not going to shine in a leading role at any level. Go somewhere where you can be comfortable, appreciated and happy.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 03:09:15 PM
Plenty of stars from low-level teams have parleyed that success into professional careers. Maybe not in the NBA, but it can certainly open doors.

And plenty of kids that didn't even start in college, or put up meager stats while there, have become NBA starters and millionaires. (see: Devin Booker, Zach LaVine, Patrick Williams).
The small school kids who made it professionally didn't make it because they put up a bunch of stats at a small school. They made it because they're good.
College production doesn't matter. If you're talented, teams will find you and you'll get paid.
Greg lighting up a mid- or low-major conference isn't going to fool pro teams into thinking he's better than he is.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on May 17, 2022, 03:19:30 PM
Or maybe Pitt had the best NIL program of all his options...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 03:27:38 PM
Greg lighting up a mid- or low-major conference isn't going to fool pro teams into thinking he's better than he is.

It won't fool NBA teams or teams with extensive scouting, but there are plenty of smaller professional leagues that don't have that type of access and if you can show you were a big time scorer at an American college, it could get you a job and contract. It's not that dissimilar from how some high school coaches will just make up and inflate rebounding and other numbers to try to help their players get college offers (which absolutely does happen).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on May 17, 2022, 03:34:22 PM
Or maybe Pitt had the best NIL program of all his options...
Greg commercial:    I fell for the Primanti brothers sandwiches.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 03:34:37 PM
Jamal is a good example of this, since he's working out for NBA teams this spring.  I can't see that happening had he not gone to Oakland and dominated.

Despite dominating at Oakland, Jamal wasn't invited to either the NBA Combine or G League Combine.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on May 17, 2022, 03:37:33 PM
It won't fool NBA teams or teams with extensive scouting, but there are plenty of smaller professional leagues that don't have that type of access and if you can show you were a big time scorer at an American college, it could get you a job and contract. It's not that dissimilar from how some high school coaches will just make up and inflate rebounding and other numbers to try to help their players get college offers (which absolutely does happen).

There's various combines which college players with professional aspirations go through following their last year in college which give them live access to those players. Teams either go to those combines or players get signed by reputable agents after the combines which then get shopped to smaller teams overseas. There's a lot of vetting that goes into the process.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Skip Intro on May 17, 2022, 03:48:53 PM
Despite dominating at Oakland, Jamal wasn't invited to either the NBA Combine or G League Combine.

True, but he's getting workouts with at least one NBA team (the Hawks), and that probably wouldn't have happened had he not done so well at Oakland.  In my mind, that's incentive for certain players to drop down in competition.  Now, is Greg one of those players - I'd say no.  I think he knows who he is, and his goals are different than "play as many minutes and score as many points as possible".  If they weren't, he wouldn't have stayed at MU for as long as he did.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on May 17, 2022, 03:54:55 PM
True, but he's getting workouts with at least one NBA team (the Hawks), and that probably wouldn't have happened had he not done so well at Oakland.

I don't know about that.  Jamal had well know athleticism before transferring.  Working a player out isn't that much of an investment in time or money.  IMO, the fact that he only has one says more than anything.  Kur Kuath has had two for goodness sakes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on May 17, 2022, 04:00:24 PM
NBA teams need extra bodies to work out the guys who they're actually interested in. It means very little to get an NBA workout.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on May 17, 2022, 04:25:16 PM
Maybe he wants to go to Cameron Indoor for a game (Not sure Pitt’s schedule). Or the Dean Dome with fans.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on May 17, 2022, 08:07:24 PM
True, but he's getting workouts with at least one NBA team (the Hawks), and that probably wouldn't have happened had he not done so well at Oakland.  In my mind, that's incentive for certain players to drop down in competition.  Now, is Greg one of those players - I'd say no.  I think he knows who he is, and his goals are different than "play as many minutes and score as many points as possible".  If they weren't, he wouldn't have stayed at MU for as long as he did.
Plus injury prone
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on May 26, 2022, 02:29:19 PM
Former five-star recruit and Villanova guard Bryan Antoine has committed to Radford. He will open the season at the Fiserv Forum against Marquette.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on May 26, 2022, 07:32:31 PM
Former five-star recruit and Villanova guard Bryan Antoine has committed to Radford. He will open the season at the Fiserv Forum against Marquette.

I think he’s had shoulder problems ever since he got to Nova - best of luck to him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on May 27, 2022, 01:21:44 PM
Tyrese Hunter to Texas

https://twitter.com/hunter_tyrese/status/1530247570114727937?cxt=HHwWgsC-sdaDxLwqAAAA
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on May 27, 2022, 01:23:10 PM
Tyrese Hunter to Texas

https://twitter.com/hunter_tyrese/status/1530247570114727937?cxt=HHwWgsC-sdaDxLwqAAAA

This has disaster written all over it. What a terrible fit.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on May 27, 2022, 01:25:20 PM
Tyrese Hunter to Texas

https://twitter.com/hunter_tyrese/status/1530247570114727937?cxt=HHwWgsC-sdaDxLwqAAAA
Money talks.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:53 PM
KC Ndefo is a pretty big pickup for Seton Hall.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on May 28, 2022, 02:39:05 PM
 Baylor transfer Matthew Mayer has committed to Illinois, per his IG page.

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1530317218080235521?s=21&t=XyhtAYupi7PJDvKGQgU_-g
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on May 28, 2022, 03:13:28 PM
KC Ndefo is a pretty big pickup for Seton Hall.

Meh - I honestly don’t think he has the basketball IQ to play big minutes at a HM. He comes off the bus with two fouls.

*and not particularly surprising he follows his coach
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 28, 2022, 06:54:48 PM
Tyrese Hunter to Texas

https://twitter.com/hunter_tyrese/status/1530247570114727937?cxt=HHwWgsC-sdaDxLwqAAAA

So Shaka “failed” the same way his predecessor did on this one?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Johnny B on May 28, 2022, 09:21:06 PM
omg u ppl  ::)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on May 28, 2022, 10:34:38 PM
omg u ppl  ::)
Why so serious?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Ben Golds Five on May 28, 2022, 10:39:12 PM
Did you say that in your Heath Ledger Joker voice?  ;D

Why so serious?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on May 28, 2022, 10:46:01 PM
Did you say that in your Heath Ledger Joker voice?  ;D
Ooooh yes...... (Dodds voice)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 29, 2022, 03:41:52 PM
So Shaka “failed” the same way his predecessor did on this one?

IF Shaka was all out after him and IF you consider Texas and Iowa State equals to recruit against, sure!

But I’m confused - I thought Wojo never lost a recruiting battle while at MU. Which helps explain his amazing success here!!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 29, 2022, 04:33:37 PM
IF Shaka was all out after him and IF you consider Texas and Iowa State equals to recruit against, sure!

But I’m confused - I thought Wojo never lost a recruiting battle while at MU. Which helps explain his amazing success here!!

You are confused!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on May 29, 2022, 06:41:33 PM
IF Shaka was all out after him and IF you consider Texas and Iowa State equals to recruit against, sure!

But I’m confused - I thought Wojo never lost a recruiting battle while at MU. Which helps explain his amazing success here!!
Need a compass
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUDPT on May 30, 2022, 05:22:07 PM
Great twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/SBUnfurled/status/1531349585251147777
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: noblewarrior on June 01, 2022, 09:32:30 AM
MU gonna put the help wanted sign out now… ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on June 01, 2022, 09:41:05 AM
MU gonna put the help wanted sign out now… ?

I think it's been out for awhile.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Royale on June 01, 2022, 11:00:15 AM
Send Lewis's NIL offer to Pete Nance.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on June 01, 2022, 12:33:58 PM
Is there anyone else out there that we have even been remotely linked with as of late, or is it safe to assume that the scholarship is going to be banked?

I'd be fine either way, I just don't want to offer someone that's not a high major talent just for the sake of filling out the roster, especially if it's someone with multiple years of eligibility.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: swoopem on June 01, 2022, 12:36:08 PM
Courtney Ramey is the only guy I can think of that we’ve been linked to. He pulled out of the draft and is returning to college but not sure where yet.

I know he’s good and Shaka has a relationship but I’m down with rolling with our guards. I don’t want another one

A big man though, that’d be nice. We’re gonna be terrible at rebounding
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on June 01, 2022, 12:36:32 PM
Drop the bag for Ramey.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 01, 2022, 01:11:10 PM
Courtney Ramey is the only guy I can think of that we’ve been linked to. He pulled out of the draft and is returning to college but not sure where yet.

I know he’s good and Shaka has a relationship but I’m down with rolling with our guards. I don’t want another one

A big man though, that’d be nice. We’re gonna be terrible at rebounding

Ramey and Mouhamed Gueye are the two I recall us being linked with. I'd happily take either of them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 01, 2022, 01:14:45 PM
Can we get a couple dudes now that ours is gone?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MUDPT on June 01, 2022, 04:38:19 PM
Per Goodman: Mouhamed Gueye will withdraw from the NBA Draft, source told
@Stadium
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Milkshakes on June 01, 2022, 04:44:48 PM
Per Goodman: Mouhamed Gueye will withdraw from the NBA Draft, source told
@Stadium

Yes, Please!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on June 01, 2022, 05:16:33 PM
Gueye or Ramey would be a huge help. I'd personally prefer Gueye given our current roster shortfalls (and him being only a soph.) but Ramey has the Shaka ties, is a big time defender, and would fit right in here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on June 01, 2022, 06:27:24 PM
Gueye or Ramey would be a huge help. I'd personally prefer Gueye given our current roster shortfalls (and him being only a soph.) but Ramey has the Shaka ties, is a big time defender, and would fit right in here.

Duke and Houston are in on Ramey, doubt we would have any chance at getting him
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on June 01, 2022, 07:31:44 PM
Embrace who is at MU.   Count on development.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on June 01, 2022, 08:35:07 PM
Big probs if we cannot rebound.  Tremendous concern.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 02, 2022, 10:24:32 AM
Best available transfers per Jeff Goodman

https://mobile.twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1532157805498621952?s=21&t=QzQnnwSZLzSa9anjOjzLRQ
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on June 02, 2022, 11:05:03 AM
Have we ever been mentioned with Gueye or is that just speculation based on need? 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 02, 2022, 12:52:29 PM
Have we ever been mentioned with Gueye or is that just speculation based on need?

We have been mentioned with him, but there hasn't been much transfer buzz around him since he declared for the draft.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Big Papi on June 03, 2022, 03:01:28 PM
Best available transfers per Jeff Goodman

https://mobile.twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1532157805498621952?s=21&t=QzQnnwSZLzSa9anjOjzLRQ

I would gladly take Pete Nance. 

6'10" 225

14.6 and 6.5 per game and an improving 3-point shot.

I don't know how good he is defensively, but we wouldn't be averaging 50 points a game with him on the roster.   ::)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on June 03, 2022, 03:04:53 PM
I would gladly take Pete Nance. 

6'10" 225

14.6 and 6.5 per game and an improving 3-point shot.

I don't know how good he is defensively, but we wouldn't be averaging 50 points a game with him on the roster.   ::)
Word on the street is he is North Carolina bound.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Big Papi on June 03, 2022, 03:23:33 PM
Word on the street is he is North Carolina bound.

Yup read that.  Still out of everyone that is out there, he is the one I would want.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 03, 2022, 06:52:34 PM
Y'all kneed ta pony up dat NIL dough, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on June 03, 2022, 06:58:03 PM
Y'all kneed ta pony up dat NIL dough, aina?
Ur the 1 whu lives in the Q, hey
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 03, 2022, 09:24:52 PM
“Hi, this is Pete Nance. Let me tell you, Doc Dribble will fix your teeth so you can chomp on brats again, aina? And he’s not even one of those criminal dentists! It’s a slam dunk: Doc Dribble … teeth as good as new, nu?”

That should be worth 50 grand to you, eh Doc?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on June 03, 2022, 09:26:47 PM
“Hi, this is Pete Nance. Let me tell you, Doc Dribble will fix your teeth so you can chomp on brats again, aina? And he’s not even one of those criminal dentists! It’s a slam dunk: Doc Dribble … teeth as good as new, nu?”

That should be worth 50 grand to you, eh Doc?

50 grand doesn’t even get you an answered phone call from top transfers. MU is in a world of NIL hurt.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 03, 2022, 09:59:12 PM
Ur the 1 whu lives in the Q, hey



Chump change, hey?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 03, 2022, 10:16:25 PM
50 grand doesn’t even get you an answered phone call from top transfers. MU is in a world of NIL hurt.

That was just from one source. roQQet has another $50K to throw in, 9-9-9’s got $99,999.99, and so on and so on.

National title, baby!!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on June 04, 2022, 09:32:27 AM


Chump change, hey?
Into the Storm Q type of guy...
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: nyg on June 07, 2022, 08:53:37 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/report-texas-transfer-courtney-ramey-down-to-two-schools/ar-AAYaOVH?li=BBnbfcL

Not MU.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on June 07, 2022, 11:13:43 AM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1534202700346404864?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

We gonna roll with what we got.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on June 07, 2022, 11:25:02 AM
MU is going to be in a world of hurt until they put some guidelines on NIL (especially when it comes to landing top level transfers).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 07, 2022, 11:38:49 AM
MU is going to be in a world of hurt until they put some guidelines on NIL (especially when it comes to landing top level transfers).


MU can compete with the vast majority of P6 schools and can outcompete everyone but Creighton in the Big East in NIL. Shaka likes the roster he has.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on June 07, 2022, 11:39:23 AM
MU is going to be in a world of hurt until they put some guidelines on NIL (especially when it comes to landing top level transfers).
Yep. With Ramey having WV in the final two the $ must be very good plus WV just got $45MM from the Big XII.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on June 07, 2022, 11:43:10 AM

MU can compete with the vast majority of P6 schools and can outcompete everyone but Creighton in the Big East in NIL. Shaka likes the roster he has.

Exactly - we’ve rarely fished in the same pond as the big spenders, before and after NIL was established.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on June 07, 2022, 11:45:32 AM

MU can compete with the vast majority of P6 schools and can outcompete everyone but Creighton in the Big East in NIL. Shaka likes the roster he has.

We'll see.  The list of guys that put up very mediocre numbers yet still had very high, high major talent at least checking in is very concerning as an MU fan.  And the list of top level transfers who are less interested in campus visits than they are in dollar amounts being offered is also very concerning as an MU fan.

The reality is, if MU is going to get where MU fans think we should be and expected under Wojo, we need more talent than is on the roster.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on June 07, 2022, 12:02:54 PM
We'll see.  The list of guys that put up very mediocre numbers yet still had very high, high major talent at least checking in is very concerning as an MU fan.  And the list of top level transfers who are less interested in campus visits than they are in dollar amounts being offered is also very concerning as an MU fan.

The reality is, if MU is going to get where MU fans think we should be and expected under Wojo, we need more talent than is on the roster.

Who’ve we missed out on because of a missed NIL deal ?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on June 07, 2022, 12:07:29 PM

MU can compete with the vast majority of P6 schools and can outcompete everyone but Creighton in the Big East in NIL. Shaka likes the roster he has.

Again, repeating the above may make people on this board feel better about the upcoming season, but given the preponderance of the evidence this just isn't the case. Shaka has tried to recruit quite a few transfers, both guards and big men, and he's lost out on them. This is a matter of fact. Does that mean he wanted to totally overhaul the team? No, but its clear he thought this team needed help and ultimately failed to bring in that help, which is worrying to me. Still think we're generally trending upward as a program, but I would learn towards a slight regression next year as things stand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on June 07, 2022, 12:22:14 PM
Again, repeating the above may make people on this board feel better about the upcoming season, but given the preponderance of the evidence this just isn't the case. Shaka has tried to recruit quite a few transfers, both guards and big men, and he's lost out on them. This is a matter of fact. Does that mean he wanted to totally overhaul the team? No, but its clear he thought this team needed help and ultimately failed to bring in that help, which is worrying to me. Still think we're generally trending upward as a program, but I would learn towards a slight regression next year as things stand.

Duke doesn't like their roster, they tried to get Nijel Pack, AJ Green, and Baylor Scheierman.
North Carolina doesn't like their roster, they tried to get Pete Nance and Matthew Mayer.
Kentucky doesn't like their roster, especially that Oscar guy, they tried to get Fardaws Aimaq.


Everyone hates their roster. Never stop recruiting.

You can say we'll regress a little next year or improve a little next year. I don't know. I think next years team is high variance. But don't use a coach recruiting as "evidence" of hating your roster. Unless you think nearly every coach in college basketball hates their roster.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 07, 2022, 12:27:28 PM
Duke doesn't like their roster, they tried to get Nijel Pack, AJ Green, and Baylor Scheierman.
North Carolina doesn't like their roster, they tried to get Pete Nance and Matthew Mayer.
Kentucky doesn't like their roster, especially that Oscar guy, they tried to get Fardaws Aimaq.


Everyone hates their roster. Never stop recruiting.

You can say we'll regress a little next year or improve a little next year. I don't know. I think next years team is high variance. But don't use a coach recruiting as "evidence" of hating your roster. Unless you think nearly every coach in college basketball hates their roster.

And don't excuse a coach's lack of success in the transfer market by spinning it as evidence he loves his roster.
I don't doubt Shaka likes his roster. I also don't doubt he recognizes its shortcomings and has tried to address them.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on June 07, 2022, 12:28:14 PM
Let's not forget that there was also a 6 week period in between when Wrightsil committed and Justin announced that he was staying in where we were full up.  There's only so much recruiting you can do when all 13 scholarships are spoken for.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 07, 2022, 12:31:03 PM
Let's not forget that there was also a 6 week period in between when Wrightsil committed and Justin announced that he was staying in where we were full up.  There's only so much recruiting you can do when all 13 scholarships are spoken for.

1. That's not true. Teams always continue to recruit when all their scholies are spoken for.
2. If Shaka truly had no clue what Justin was doing for six weeks, he needs to improve his communication and relationship skills. I doubt that's the case. I suspect Shaka has known for weeks which way Justin was leaning, and almost certainly knew of his final decision well before Justin went public.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on June 07, 2022, 12:33:45 PM
1. That's not true. Teams always continue to recruit when all their scholies are spoken for.
2. If Shaka truly had no clue what Justin was doing for six weeks, he needs to improve his communication and relationship skills. I doubt that's the case. I suspect Shaka has known for weeks which way Justin was leaning, and almost certainly knew of his final decision well before Justin went public.

It can be hard to convince prospects to come replace a player when said player says he’s not leaving in a public forum.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on June 07, 2022, 12:37:43 PM
1. That's not true. Teams always continue to recruit when all their scholies are spoken for.
2. If Shaka truly had no clue what Justin was doing for six weeks, he needs to improve his communication and relationship skills. I doubt that's the case. I suspect Shaka has known for weeks which way Justin was leaning, and almost certainly knew of his final decision well before Justin went public.

1. I said there's only so much recruiting that you can do, not there's no recruiting that you can do (continuing to hit the high school trail hard for example).  As much as other teams continue to recruit when they're full up (including MU in the post), I don't expect many if any players to be buzz cut or Bo'oned.  It kinda spits in the face of all the "culture buy in" that Shaka has been pushing since day one.
2. Again, he may have known which way Justin was leaning, but until something is a #dondeal he'd have to alter his approach. "Hey, <insert name here> I really want you here, and this is how we could use use within our offense, but one of my current guys may come back and if he does I won't be able to honor this scholarship offer". 

Not trying to blanketly defend his recruiting misses, they are 100% misses.  Just pointing out that he has been a little more handcuffed than some coaches that have multiple openings and can fully guarantee a scholarship.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on June 07, 2022, 12:39:06 PM
Who’ve we missed out on because of a missed NIL deal ?

There are players we won't even begin to be in the conversation for because of NIL deals.  So I guess we didn't miss on anyone because of them, we just can't even play ball on some of them.  Which again, causes me to believe we are in a world of hurt until there are some sort of guidelines on NIL in college athletics/basketball.  We are a non-factor in terms of NIL.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on June 07, 2022, 12:41:30 PM
Shaka said at least a month ago that there were very few players out there that he felt fit what he is trying to do at MU.  So I have assumed all along that Wrightsil was going to be the only incoming transfer.   

So now, who is going to be the forward that rounds out the 23 class?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on June 07, 2022, 12:52:25 PM
There are players we won't even begin to be in the conversation for because of NIL deals.  So I guess we didn't miss on anyone because of them, we just can't even play ball on some of them.  Which again, causes me to believe we are in a world of hurt until there are some sort of guidelines on NIL in college athletics/basketball.  We are a non-factor in terms of NIL.

Fact is - 90 percent of schools are non factors in NIL as it stands now.

We haven’t lost any players to NIL deals yet and I don’t anticipate losing many because we’re not going after those guys anyways.

We weren’t going after guys looking to get paid before NIL and we’re not in the market for guys looking for NIL deals now.

I do think that we need to adapt to NIL or be left in the dust in the coming years, but as it stands now, it’s just lots of hand wringing over a barely existent issue.

*clarification - not an issue in college basketball. Much more prevalent already in CFB.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on June 07, 2022, 12:55:52 PM
Duke doesn't like their roster, they tried to get Nijel Pack, AJ Green, and Baylor Scheierman.
North Carolina doesn't like their roster, they tried to get Pete Nance and Matthew Mayer.
Kentucky doesn't like their roster, especially that Oscar guy, they tried to get Fardaws Aimaq.


Everyone hates their roster. Never stop recruiting.

You can say we'll regress a little next year or improve a little next year. I don't know. I think next years team is high variance. But don't use a coach recruiting as "evidence" of hating your roster. Unless you think nearly every coach in college basketball hates their roster.

Lol what?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 07, 2022, 12:59:48 PM
1. That's not true. Teams always continue to recruit when all their scholies are spoken for.
2. If Shaka truly had no clue what Justin was doing for six weeks, he needs to improve his communication and relationship skills. I doubt that's the case. I suspect Shaka has known for weeks which way Justin was leaning, and almost certainly knew of his final decision well before Justin went public.

1. Not typically at this point of the season. Recruiting multiple players for 2023 when we only have one scholarship available, yes, teams do that. But going after players actively for the upcoming season when you don't have scholarships available isn't a common practice.

2. By all reports, Justin didn't make his final decision until the days leading into June 1. I think he was leaning toward going, but he needed to get feedback from both the draft side and NIL side before settling on his decision. Reading tea leaves, I think one of his last workouts before the deadline was what solidified him staying in. If Justin didn't know until the last week, hard to imagine Shaka knew before Justin did.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 07, 2022, 01:00:25 PM
We are a non-factor in terms of NIL.

This is incorrect
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 07, 2022, 01:05:24 PM
Again, repeating the above may make people on this board feel better about the upcoming season, but given the preponderance of the evidence this just isn't the case. Shaka has tried to recruit quite a few transfers, both guards and big men, and he's lost out on them. This is a matter of fact.

Are you sure?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 07, 2022, 01:14:44 PM
2. By all reports, Justin didn't make his final decision until the days leading into June 1. I think he was leaning toward going, but he needed to get feedback from both the draft side and NIL side before settling on his decision. Reading tea leaves, I think one of his last workouts before the deadline was what solidified him staying in. If Justin didn't know until the last week, hard to imagine Shaka knew before Justin did.

Whose reports?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 07, 2022, 01:17:33 PM
Whose reports?

The reports of everyone I was talking to leading up to the decision date. Shaka may have known, but from everything I've heard, I do not at all believe the staff had the kind of advanced knowledge you imply.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 07, 2022, 01:23:22 PM
Shaka said at least a month ago that there were very few players out there that he felt fit what he is trying to do at MU.  So I have assumed all along that Wrightsil was going to be the only incoming transfer.   

So now, who is going to be the forward that rounds out the 23 class?

I keep reading stuff like this here, and it frankly makes little sense.
Guys ... Shaka isn't reinventing the wheel here, much less the way to operate a college basketball program. He's not doing anything at Marquette that isn't done at programs across the country. 
There were literally dozens of high quality players in the portal this spring, and the notion that only a tiny fraction of them - or maybe just one guy from the NAIA - "fit" what Shaka is doing is nuts.
And you know who else isn't buying this line of thinking? Shaka. MU reached out to LOTS of players this spring. Shaka wasn't nearly as discerning as is being portrayed here.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on June 07, 2022, 01:39:28 PM
The reports of everyone I was talking to leading up to the decision date. Shaka may have known, but from everything I've heard, I do not at all believe the staff had the kind of advanced knowledge you imply.

They had from 5/29. 48 hours would have been enough time for John Wooden to replace Lewis with a 5star.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 07, 2022, 02:11:52 PM
I keep reading stuff like this here, and it frankly makes little sense.
Guys ... Shaka isn't reinventing the wheel here, much less the way to operate a college basketball program. He's not doing anything at Marquette that isn't done at programs across the country. 
There were literally dozens of high quality players in the portal this spring, and the notion that only a tiny fraction of them - or maybe just one guy from the NAIA - "fit" what Shaka is doing is nuts.
And you know who else isn't buying this line of thinking? Shaka. MU reached out to LOTS of players this spring. Shaka wasn't nearly as discerning as is being portrayed here.

When they had an open scholarship, they did. Off the top of my head, I remember Kendal Coleman, Warren Washington, Manny Bates, Nijel Pack, Courtney Ramey, Efe Abogidi, Mouhamed Gueye, Fardaws Aimaq, and Clifton Moore. However, I don't remember many of those coming after we landed Zach Wrightsil. Ramey and Gueye are the only names I can confidently say we were mentioned with once we were back to full (and that might have just been Shaka keeping in touch with an old player, possibly not even recruiting him).

However, we were reported to have reached out to maybe a dozen players out of what, 1600 in the portal? And the only one they brought for a visit was Wrightsil, with no real aggressiveness shown after that commit.

How much of this was MU reaching out to "lots of players" and how much was we reached out to a handful of guys in late March/early April and fans kept mentioning them as possibilities because they were uncommitted? Are there that many names that came after the Wrightsil commit? There certainly haven't been as guys dropped out of the Draft and into the portal (like Matthew Mayer).

This might be my personal take, but while I'll post and tweet the Twitter mentions, I don't get too seriously excited about any prospects until I hear a name from someone closer to the Al. The only player I received any information on this summer in terms of serious interest was Wrightsil about 2 weeks before he committed. Other than that, it's been very quiet. Compare that to last year when Jop, Ellis, O-Max, and Kolek were getting buzz before 414 Day, and Morsell was known months in advance.

Honestly, I think it's more fan speculation than actual aggressiveness from the staff. Which makes sense when you have 12.5 scholarships full from mid-April on.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 07, 2022, 02:31:26 PM
When they had an open scholarship, they did. Off the top of my head, I remember Kendal Coleman, Warren Washington, Manny Bates, Nijel Pack, Courtney Ramey, Efe Abogidi, Mouhamed Gueye, Fardaws Aimaq, and Clifton Moore. However, I don't remember many of those coming after we landed Zach Wrightsil. Ramey and Gueye are the only names I can confidently say we were mentioned with once we were back to full (and that might have just been Shaka keeping in touch with an old player, possibly not even recruiting him).

However, we were reported to have reached out to maybe a dozen players out of what, 1600 in the portal? And the only one they brought for a visit was Wrightsil, with no real aggressiveness shown after that commit.

How much of this was MU reaching out to "lots of players" and how much was we reached out to a handful of guys in late March/early April and fans kept mentioning them as possibilities because they were uncommitted? Are there that many names that came after the Wrightsil commit? There certainly haven't been as guys dropped out of the Draft and into the portal (like Matthew Mayer).

This might be my personal take, but while I'll post and tweet the Twitter mentions, I don't get too seriously excited about any prospects until I hear a name from someone closer to the Al. The only player I received any information on this summer in terms of serious interest was Wrightsil about 2 weeks before he committed. Other than that, it's been very quiet. Compare that to last year when Jop, Ellis, O-Max, and Kolek were getting buzz before 414 Day, and Morsell was known months in advance.

Honestly, I think it's more fan speculation than actual aggressiveness from the staff. Which makes sense when you have 12.5 scholarships full from mid-April on.

Always remember: Fans Are Idiots
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on June 07, 2022, 02:49:45 PM
When they had an open scholarship, they did. Off the top of my head, I remember Kendal Coleman, Warren Washington, Manny Bates, Nijel Pack, Courtney Ramey, Efe Abogidi, Mouhamed Gueye, Fardaws Aimaq, and Clifton Moore. However, I don't remember many of those coming after we landed Zach Wrightsil. Ramey and Gueye are the only names I can confidently say we were mentioned with once we were back to full (and that might have just been Shaka keeping in touch with an old player, possibly not even recruiting him).

However, we were reported to have reached out to maybe a dozen players out of what, 1600 in the portal? And the only one they brought for a visit was Wrightsil, with no real aggressiveness shown after that commit.

How much of this was MU reaching out to "lots of players" and how much was we reached out to a handful of guys in late March/early April and fans kept mentioning them as possibilities because they were uncommitted? Are there that many names that came after the Wrightsil commit? There certainly haven't been as guys dropped out of the Draft and into the portal (like Matthew Mayer).

This might be my personal take, but while I'll post and tweet the Twitter mentions, I don't get too seriously excited about any prospects until I hear a name from someone closer to the Al. The only player I received any information on this summer in terms of serious interest was Wrightsil about 2 weeks before he committed. Other than that, it's been very quiet. Compare that to last year when Jop, Ellis, O-Max, and Kolek were getting buzz before 414 Day, and Morsell was known months in advance.

Honestly, I think it's more fan speculation than actual aggressiveness from the staff. Which makes sense when you have 12.5 scholarships full from mid-April on.

Washington and Wrightsil were the only two ever taken mildly seriously. Aimaq was serious, but they the staff fell back right away.

They have constantly recruited 2023 hard looking to have a 3 man class, making Coleman, Bates, and Pack unlikely. Plus i think Pack wanted a large NIL package.

Moore and 1-2 other big men felt like backup options for Wrightsil and Washington.

Abogidi went pro. Gueye went back to WSU. Ramey is only connected because he was once a shaka player, seems like he is going to Arizona or WVU. (i thought it was duke, but Proctor reclassified.)

Most transfers just tweet out or leak every school that called them one time, to make it seem like they are more coveted than they actually are.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 07, 2022, 03:33:06 PM
Washington and Wrightsil were the only two ever taken mildly seriously. Aimaq was serious, but they the staff fell back right away.

They have constantly recruited 2023 hard looking to have a 3 man class, making Coleman, Bates, and Pack unlikely. Plus i think Pack wanted a large NIL package.

Moore and 1-2 other big men felt like backup options for Wrightsil and Washington.

Abogidi went pro. Gueye went back to WSU. Ramey is only connected because he was once a shaka player, seems like he is going to Arizona or WVU. (i thought it was duke, but Proctor reclassified.)

Most transfers just tweet out or leak every school that called them one time, to make it seem like they are more coveted than they actually are.

So, even though Marquette was one of Noah Carter's finalists, Shaka wasn't even mildly serious about him?

As for your players tweet/leak idea, are you suggesting players are lying about the schools that are reaching out to them, or that schools - especially Marquette, it seems - spend their time contacting players they don't want?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on June 07, 2022, 03:40:46 PM
So, even though Marquette was one of Noah Carter's finalists, Shaka wasn't even mildly serious about him?

Noah Carter's visit to MU was cancelled...if it was ever even scheduled...just a couple weeks before Wrightsil committed.  Those events were definitely connected.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on June 07, 2022, 03:42:38 PM
As for your players tweet/leak idea, are you suggesting players are lying about the schools that are reaching out to them, or that schools - especially Marquette, it seems - spend their time contacting players they don't want?


I think Marquette casts a broad net early.  I mean, connecting with a guy on Twitter doesn't take all that much time and it makes no sense to wait.  They then zero in on the guys they want after doing due diligence. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 07, 2022, 03:48:14 PM
Noah Carter's visit to MU was cancelled...if it was ever even scheduled...just a couple weeks before Wrightsil committed.  Those events were definitely connected.

He canceled all his other visits after spending a weekend at Mizzou and committing there. That was before Wrightsil visited MU.

Regardless of whether Carter canceled because Marquette chose Wrightsil first or Carter chose Mizzou over MU, the fact remains he was involved enough with MU that he planned a visit and included us in his finalists. That would seem odd for a player that MU wasn't "mildly serious" about, don't you think?
Or maybe he just needed to drop MU's name to seem more coveted than he was.   
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on June 07, 2022, 04:15:57 PM
He canceled all his other visits after spending a weekend at Mizzou and committing there. That was before Wrightsil visited MU.

Regardless of whether Carter canceled because Marquette chose Wrightsil first or Carter chose Mizzou over MU, the fact remains he was involved enough with MU that he planned a visit and included us in his finalists. That would seem odd for a player that MU wasn't "mildly serious" about, don't you think?
Or maybe he just needed to drop MU's name to seem more coveted than he was.   

Wrightsil's only visit was to Marquette.  He never planned any others.  I think it became apparent that once there was strong, mutual interest, Marquette backed off pretty quickly from Carter.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 07, 2022, 04:30:08 PM
He canceled all his other visits after spending a weekend at Mizzou and committing there. That was before Wrightsil visited MU.

Regardless of whether Carter canceled because Marquette chose Wrightsil first or Carter chose Mizzou over MU, the fact remains he was involved enough with MU that he planned a visit and included us in his finalists. That would seem odd for a player that MU wasn't "mildly serious" about, don't you think?
Or maybe he just needed to drop MU's name to seem more coveted than he was.

Carter announced his top-5 on March 31 but on April 5th said that he was going to visit Marquette but didn't have a date set. On April 10th, he said Marquette "dropped off his list." FWIW by April 10th it was pretty clear Wrightsil was going to commit here, even though he hadn't visited yet.

Seems like we kicked the tires, decided on someone else, and told him Milwaukee was no longer an option.

https://missouri.rivals.com/news/noah-carter-talks-mizzou-visit-future-plans
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 07, 2022, 05:18:06 PM
I wouldn’t read much into Final 5 lists, etc
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: WhiteTrash on June 07, 2022, 05:29:28 PM
Fact is - 90 percent of schools are non factors in NIL as it stands now.

We haven’t lost any players to NIL deals yet and I don’t anticipate losing many because we’re not going after those guys anyways.

We weren’t going after guys looking to get paid before NIL and we’re not in the market for guys looking for NIL deals now.

I do think that we need to adapt to NIL or be left in the dust in the coming years, but as it stands now, it’s just lots of hand wringing over a barely existent issue.

*clarification - not an issue in college basketball. Much more prevalent already in CFB.
IF you are correct, the pro-NIL people are going to loos their minds. This would mean 90% of schools can continue screwing the kids over in what some have called modern day slavery.

Personally, I think you are minimizing the impact of NIL. I'm in favor of NIL and I feel it will move the needle significantly. Just my opinion. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on June 07, 2022, 05:33:50 PM
So, even though Marquette was one of Noah Carter's finalists, Shaka wasn't even mildly serious about him?

As for your players tweet/leak idea, are you suggesting players are lying about the schools that are reaching out to them, or that schools - especially Marquette, it seems - spend their time contacting players they don't want?

I forgot about him. Brewcity has the timeline right. Felt like MU choose Wrigthsil (Or wrightsil and washington) over him even if Carter technically committed first.
Carter announced his top-5 on March 31 but on April 5th said that he was going to visit Marquette but didn't have a date set. On April 10th, he said Marquette "dropped off his list." FWIW by April 10th it was pretty clear Wrightsil was going to commit here, even though he hadn't visited yet.

Seems like we kicked the tires, decided on someone else, and told him Milwaukee was no longer an option.

https://missouri.rivals.com/news/noah-carter-talks-mizzou-visit-future-plans

As for if I think Marquette spends time "contacting players they don't want." Sometimes. But i view guys liking to report that Marquette contacted them is a good thing.  I don't think it was a coincidence that local recruits like Cartier and Hunter were called and then not followed up on. (i understand hunter didn't want to come anyways.) With the way the portal works, you call anyone who might fit the team the second they enter the portal, and then the staff has meetings over whether a player might fit or not. This isn't a new thing either. Normal recruiting works the same

Marquette recruits 10-20 guys in each class that they wont offer.  In the past power conference teams have even offered players they don't want. Maryland and Depaul have offered the whole state of Wisconsin at points in time.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 07, 2022, 06:18:54 PM
Carter announced his top-5 on March 31 but on April 5th said that he was going to visit Marquette but didn't have a date set. On April 10th, he said Marquette "dropped off his list." FWIW by April 10th it was pretty clear Wrightsil was going to commit here, even though he hadn't visited yet.

Seems like we kicked the tires, decided on someone else, and told him Milwaukee was no longer an option.

https://missouri.rivals.com/news/noah-carter-talks-mizzou-visit-future-plans

Again, my point has nothing to do with whether Shaka preferred Carter over Wrightsil or vice-versa. My point is he recruits more players than many here seem to believe, and isn't exclusively in search of unicorns that "fit" some totally unique thing he's doing at Marquette.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 07, 2022, 07:51:41 PM
Again, my point has nothing to do with whether Shaka preferred Carter over Wrightsil or vice-versa. My point is he recruits more players than many here seem to believe, and isn't exclusively in search of unicorns that "fit" some totally unique thing he's doing at Marquette.

And my point is that he was pretty selective. He reached out early when we had an opening, seemed to shut down most recruitments once they knew they had Wrightsil, and have been virtually silent since, only inquiring with guys who, like Justin, were in the draft pool and thus on a different timetable.

This was far from a wide net.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on June 07, 2022, 08:07:00 PM
IF you are correct, the pro-NIL people are going to loos their minds. This would mean 90% of schools can continue screwing the kids over in what some have called modern day slavery.

Personally, I think you are minimizing the impact of NIL. I'm in favor of NIL and I feel it will move the needle significantly. Just my opinion.

I’m not minimizing NIL - to clarify, I see a small segment of basketball programs throwing around serious NIL dollars. The majority of hoops programs across the country are in the same boat as us - Haven’t figured out details but are totally open to NIL. It’s not yet separating any programs or been the catastrophe some around here are portraying.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Ben Golds Five on June 07, 2022, 09:37:38 PM
There's a whole unnatural carnal knowledgeing thread on NIL. Can't you take that crap over there?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on June 08, 2022, 11:37:45 AM
Are you sure?

Yes, given the information reported at the time that was available to the public, that is what happened. Unless you have some inside information you would like to share with us? The "look at me, I know what really happened and will allude to it but won't tell" act is so tired.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 08, 2022, 12:03:00 PM
Yes, given the information reported at the time that was available to the public, that is what happened. Unless you have some inside information you would like to share with us? The "look at me, I know what really happened and will allude to it but won't tell" act is so tired.

I'm not talking about "inside" information.  I'm talking about what is available to the public. We cast a wide net in March/early April, we zeroed in on Wrightsil and Washington,  got one and missed on the other. There been barely a mention of us with any transfer since then.

You translated that as Shaka wanted all these transfers and whiffed on all of them.  I translate it as Shaka identified his top two targets and got 1/2. We'll see if his strategy pays off
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 08, 2022, 12:18:10 PM
Yes, given the information reported at the time that was available to the public, that is what happened. Unless you have some inside information you would like to share with us? The "look at me, I know what really happened and will allude to it but won't tell" act is so tired.

Again, I would point to the Wrightsil commitment as the timeline. I'll just go with public knowledge:

You can believe what you want. I know who I trust and who generally has good information. But if you look strictly at the timeline, Marquette made a bunch of inquiries early. Once they had Wrightsil confirmed to visit, Carter suddenly said we weren't in the mix anymore. Once Wrightsil committed, Washington did the same. And after Wrightsil committed, the only three new names or consistent names were guys that were, like Justin Lewis, in the NBA Draft pool.

Personally, I don't think there's a link between Wrightsil and Washington. My guess is the ASU campus wowed Warren and he went with it. But I have little doubt that Marquette chose Wrightsil over Carter and after Wrightsil committed, only kept in touch with a few guys who were also in the NBA Draft pool so they could at least pick up the phone if Justin stayed in the process. As it happens, Abogidi is going G League, Ramey is going elsewhere, and Gueye is going back to Wazzu. So we go forward with what we have.

I'd guess the team would've taken one more proven body if one of those three had been available. But if they were really aggressive in this transfer portal, we would've seen a lot more names after the Wrightsil visit and commit became official, and that simply isn't the case. We reached out early, then when we got the guy we got, mostly shut it down except for people that were going through the same thing (and thus on the same timeline) that Justin was.

The dots aren't that hard to connect, even if you have no inside information.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 08, 2022, 01:43:48 PM
And my point is that he was pretty selective. He reached out early when we had an opening, seemed to shut down most recruitments once they knew they had Wrightsil, and have been virtually silent since, only inquiring with guys who, like Justin, were in the draft pool and thus on a different timetable.

This was far from a wide net.

I'm doing a terrible job here explaining myself, because you're not understanding the point I'm making.
I'm not arguing whether the staff preferred one player over another. I'm not arguing that they didn't narrow their focus after casting a wide net initially. I'm not commenting at all on Shaka's recruiting abilities.
I'm arguing that the things we keep reading here about "fit" and "culture" are mostly nonsense. Not that Shaka doesn't care about culture and fit  ... of course does, just like every other coach cares about their own brand of culture and fit ... but that his culture is somehow so unique that it's extra hard to find players that "fit." And that explains his mediocre recruiting results so far.
I don't think that's true. I don't think that Shaka is creating some unique culture and I don't think there's a lack of quality players who would fit the culture he is creating.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on June 08, 2022, 02:13:29 PM
I'm doing a terrible job here explaining myself, because you're not understanding the point I'm making.
I'm not arguing whether the staff preferred one player over another. I'm not arguing that they didn't narrow their focus after casting a wide net initially. I'm not commenting at all on Shaka's recruiting abilities.
I'm arguing that the things we keep reading here about "fit" and "culture" are mostly nonsense. Not that Shaka doesn't care about culture and fit  ... of course does, just like every other coach cares about their own brand of culture and fit ... but that his culture is somehow so unique that it's extra hard to find players that "fit." And that explains his mediocre recruiting results so far.
I don't think that's true. I don't think that Shaka is creating some unique culture and I don't think there's a lack of quality players who would fit the culture he is creating.

Shaka is a mediocre recruiter screams of 2012 Seahawks day after draft grades.

https://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/4/29/2985799/nfl-draft-grades-2012-seahawks
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 08, 2022, 02:18:46 PM
Shaka is a mediocre recruiter screams of 2012 Seahawks day after draft grades.

https://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/4/29/2985799/nfl-draft-grades-2012-seahawks

Reading isn't hard, is it?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 08, 2022, 02:23:18 PM
I'm doing a terrible job here explaining myself, because you're not understanding the point I'm making.
I'm not arguing whether the staff preferred one player over another. I'm not arguing that they didn't narrow their focus after casting a wide net initially. I'm not commenting at all on Shaka's recruiting abilities.
I'm arguing that the things we keep reading here about "fit" and "culture" are mostly nonsense. Not that Shaka doesn't care about culture and fit  ... of course does, just like every other coach cares about their own brand of culture and fit ... but that his culture is somehow so unique that it's extra hard to find players that "fit." And that explains his mediocre recruiting results so far.
I don't think that's true. I don't think that Shaka is creating some unique culture and I don't think there's a lack of quality players who would fit the culture he is creating.

And no one has said what you are saying. No one has said that there aren't many quality players who could fit into what Shaka is doing or that they explain "his mediocre recruiting results". What people have said is that Shaka values fit over talent. So there will be times that Shaka takes a less talented player who fits his culture better than a more talented player who doesn't fit as well. Which you are right, is not unique to Marquette at all. Many coaches employ this approach while others try to roll the ball out and out talent the other team. Neither is better, both are completely valid ways to win.

The only way that Shaka has had "mediocre recruiting results" is if your only criteria is what they were rated out out of high school. Recruiting is about landing players you can win with, not players with the most amount of stars next to their name. Shaka's results in year 1 were pretty good. We will see if he continues to be an effective recruiter.

Culture isn't just about what a player can do on the court. If it was, we'd be talking about systems, not culture. Buzz was a coach with no system. He assembled his roster and installed a new gameplan every season to match the pieces he had. But he 100% had a culture and recruited players who would respond well to his style of coaching. Shaka has a system and a culture. This again is not unique to Shaka, though Shaka has own particular brand (as all coaches do). There was recently an article about Zaide Lowery's recruitment, and the lengths Shaka and staff went to gather information about what Lowery was like off the court and how his coach who has coached several D1 players, had never seen anything like it. Shaka really values that stuff. That doesn't mean that our players are better people. Or that we are somehow superior to other programs. It also doesn't mean that if miss out on a recruit it automatically means it was because he wasn't a cultural fit. It just means that Shaka isn't lying when tells us over and over again how important this is to him and that this is how he plans to win. We will see if he can execute.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 08, 2022, 02:27:05 PM
Transfers, huh?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on June 08, 2022, 02:29:26 PM
Reading isn't hard, is it?

How do you judge his mediocre recruiting after one full season ? Especially after players he recruited last season brought them to the post season?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 08, 2022, 02:46:44 PM
And no one has said what you are saying. No one has said that there aren't many quality players who could fit into what Shaka is doing

Respectfully, the post that led us down this road (again) reads:

"Shaka said at least a month ago that there were very few players out there that he felt fit what he is trying to do at MU."


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The only way that Shaka has had "mediocre recruiting results" is if your only criteria is what they were rated out out of high school. Recruiting is about landing players you can win with, not players with the most amount of stars next to their name. Shaka's results in year 1 were pretty good. We will see if he continues to be an effective recruiter.

I'm not sure how else we can judge Shaka's recruiting at this point except by comparing where the players he lands are rated relative to their peers, as well as initial performance of the players he brings in.
If you're making the case that we shouldn't make any judgements for a few years, fair enough. Though I suspect that if MU were landing top 50 kids left and right, we'd all be here talking about how Shaka is killing it on the recruiting trail, not downplaying the rankings.
Also, I would suggest there's a pretty strong relationship between the number of stars next to a player's name and the likelihood you'll win with him. The programs that consistently win conference titles and play the second weekend aren't doing so with three stars leading the way.

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  It just means that Shaka isn't lying when tells us over and over again how important this is to him and that this is how he plans to win. We will see if he can execute.
And no one has said otherwise.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on June 08, 2022, 03:15:28 PM
The only way that Shaka has had "mediocre recruiting results" is if your only criteria is what they were rated out out of high school. Recruiting is about landing players you can win with, not players with the most amount of stars next to their name. Shaka's results in year 1 were pretty good. We will see if he continues to be an effective recruiter.

This is why, in my opinion, Bo Ryan is the most underrated recruiter I've ever seen. Forget the star ratings, he found guys that he could develop and fit his system and rode them to top-4 Big 10 finish after top-4 Big 10 finish, with some Final Fours tacked on at the end. Yes, he landed the occasional big name, but for the most part, it was low four stars, three stars, and two stars that he made it work with.

Find the guys you win with. We'll see if he can keep doing that.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on June 08, 2022, 03:20:22 PM
Ramey is ending up at arizona
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on June 08, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
This is why, in my opinion, Bo Ryan is the most underrated recruiter I've ever seen. Forget the star ratings, he found guys that he could develop and fit his system and rode them to top-4 Big 10 finish after top-4 Big 10 finish, with some Final Fours tacked on at the end. Yes, he landed the occasional big name, but for the most part, it was low four stars, three stars, and two stars that he made it work with.

Find the guys you win with. We'll see if he can keep doing that.

Bo Ryan was also ahead of the curve in some areas that modern analytics value.  He emphasized limiting turnovers, which ties in to the value of a possession.

Ryan also had his post players shooting threes before most.  Many big men shoot 3s nowadays, but when Wisconsin started doing it the concept was seen as a novelty.

Ryan also understood the value of volume three point shooting.  Sure, a bad shooting night cost them at times, but it also helped Wisconsin maximize their scoring.

Ryan emphasized efficiency and turned it into Wisconsin's brand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on June 08, 2022, 04:39:07 PM
Kenpom appreciates...

Bo Ryan was also ahead of the curve in some areas that modern analytics value.  He emphasized limiting turnovers, which ties in to the value of a possession.

Ryan also had his post players shooting threes before most.  Many big men shoot 3s nowadays, but when Wisconsin started doing it the concept was seen as a novelty.

Ryan also understood the value of volume three point shooting.  Sure, a bad shooting night cost them at times, but it also helped Wisconsin maximize their scoring.

Ryan emphasized efficiency and turned it into Wisconsin's brand.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 08, 2022, 05:37:17 PM
I am delighted with Shaka's transfer recruiting. He recruited 4 quality young men who each contributed to MU earning an NCAA bid. Two of those players are foundation pieces going forward.

This year Shaka had one spot he could recruit for. The second spot was in suspense until June 1 and Justin's decision.

There have been 3  recruits in recent years in the Big East that have a similar profile as our transfer this year . In that they were D2 National Champion/ Player of The Year/ All American that being Zach Hankins at X, Ryan Hawkins at Creighton and Max Strus at DePaul. All three were very productive Big East players to varying degrees. NAIA, where Mr. Wrigtsil , was National Player of the Year and National Champion , is approximately equal to D2 ( offers scholarships etc)

Shaka recruited a transfer player that exactly fits what this team needs. A long and athletic inside player, with great versatility willing to play a major role on defense and rebounding and a proven winner.  Exactly the type of player we are going to need in Big East Play Also if one reads the interviews with Mr. Wrigtsil, he has a chip on his shoulder, and wants to prove he belongs at this level. That self motivation is fantastic. We are getting a gritty MU Style player.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: wadesworld on June 08, 2022, 05:42:39 PM
Ramey is ending up at arizona

He’s getting rich.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 08, 2022, 06:11:23 PM
I am delighted with Shaka's transfer recruiting. He recruited 4 quality young men who each contributed to MU earning an NCAA bid. Two of those players are foundation pieces going forward.

This year Shaka had one spot he could recruit for. The second spot was in suspense until June 1 and Justin's decision.

There have been 3  recruits in recent years in the Big East that have a similar profile as our transfer this year . In that they were D2 National Champion/ Player of The Year/ All American that being Zach Hankins at X, Ryan Hawkins at Creighton and Max Strus at DePaul. All three were very productive Big East players to varying degrees. NAIA, where Mr. Wrigtsil , was National Player of the Year and National Champion , is approximately equal to D2 ( offers scholarships etc)

Shaka recruited a transfer player that exactly fits what this team needs. A long and athletic inside player, with great versatility willing to play a major role on defense and rebounding and a proven winner.  Exactly the type of player we are going to need in Big East Play Also if one reads the interviews with Mr. Wrigtsil, he has a chip on his shoulder, and wants to prove he belongs at this level. That self motivation is fantastic. We are getting a gritty MU Style player.

Agree with most of this and like what I've heard about Wrightsil. I do wish he was more of a 3-point threat,. Because you can never have enough shooting ... and I'm not sure we do.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on June 08, 2022, 06:22:07 PM
Agree with most of this and like what I've heard about Wrightsil. I do wish he was more of a 3-point threat,. Because you can never have enough shooting ... and I'm not sure we do.

But we can use more rebounding which is his role.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 08, 2022, 06:38:13 PM
But we can use more rebounding which is his role.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: shoothoops on June 10, 2022, 02:42:10 PM
Courtney Ramey committed to Arizona.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 10, 2022, 02:54:51 PM
Courtney Ramey committed to Arizona.

The wiener is Forest green, aina?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 10, 2022, 02:55:44 PM
Courtney Ramey committed to Arizona.

(https://c.tenor.com/YjPBups7H48AAAAC/6m-rain.gif)
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on June 10, 2022, 03:37:28 PM
The wiener is Forest green, aina?
COLE COLE
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 10, 2022, 06:58:34 PM
COLE COLE

Can’t blame NIL.  Arizona doesn’t play that game
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Viper on June 15, 2022, 03:49:43 PM
Bo Ryan was also ahead of the curve in some areas that modern analytics value.  He emphasized limiting turnovers, which ties in to the value of a possession.

Ryan also had his post players shooting threes before most.  Many big men shoot 3s nowadays, but when Wisconsin started doing it the concept was seen as a novelty.

Ryan also understood the value of volume three point shooting.  Sure, a bad shooting night cost them at times, but it also helped Wisconsin maximize their scoring.

Ryan emphasized efficiency and turned it into Wisconsin's brand.
Bo Ryan emphasizing efficiency is what she liked, I was told.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on July 03, 2022, 12:48:22 PM
https://twitter.com/verbalcommits/status/1542536519528873986?s=21&t=weFtj3hywCVTUi-ynzHsCg

Liu fires it’s coach and their best player enters the portal. We’ve been mentioned.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 03, 2022, 01:02:26 PM
https://twitter.com/verbalcommits/status/1542536519528873986?s=21&t=weFtj3hywCVTUi-ynzHsCg

Liu fires it’s coach and their best player enters the portal. We’ve been mentioned.

https://twitter.com/search?q=eral%20penn%20marquette&src=typed_query

Defintely Shaka's type. Long, athletic wing who is extremely disruptive on defensive and excels in transition. Big jump in competition from LIU to Marquette...in some ways it may even be a bigger jump than Wrightsil is making. He would need a waiver I believe to play immediately but maybe the late coaching change would be enough.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on July 03, 2022, 01:03:51 PM
https://twitter.com/search?q=eral%20penn%20marquette&src=typed_query

Defintely Shaka's type. Long, athletic wing who is extremely disruptive on defensive and excels in transition. Big jump in competition from LIU to Marquette...in some ways it may even be a bigger jump than Wrightsil is making. He would need a waiver I believe to play immediately but maybe the late coaching change would be enough.

I believe he’s a grad transfer so immediate eligibility.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on July 03, 2022, 05:05:09 PM
I believe he’s a grad transfer so immediate eligibility.

Yeah, saw he already played four so almost certainly immediately eligible.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on July 03, 2022, 08:53:57 PM
https://twitter.com/search?q=eral%20penn%20marquette&src=typed_query

Defintely Shaka's type. Long, athletic wing who is extremely disruptive on defensive and excels in transition. Big jump in competition from LIU to Marquette...in some ways it may even be a bigger jump than Wrightsil is making. He would need a waiver I believe to play immediately but maybe the late coaching change would be enough.
But offers are very decent so there must be something there.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 03, 2022, 09:16:22 PM
But offers are very decent so there must be something there.

Could be. Could also be that per Evan Miya, all but 1 top of the top 150 transfers have committed already so any school with a scholarship burning a hole in their pocket is willing to take a flyer on him because it's not like they are going to use it otherwise
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on July 03, 2022, 09:19:53 PM
But offers are very decent so there must be something there.

Could be, though if you have an open scholarship this late, no harm in taking a flier, so that might explain the offers.

But I'm certainly intrigued. Over 120 ORtg his first three years, and a still impressive 108 with a higher usage rate last year. Solid rebounder, doesn't turn the ball over, and enough of a shooter to be respected from three while being really good inside. In addition, while his efficiency took a hit against quality opposition, it wasn't the complete cratering some other players have. Worth a look.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on July 03, 2022, 10:07:11 PM
https://twitter.com/verbalcommits/status/1542536519528873986?s=21&t=weFtj3hywCVTUi-ynzHsCg

Liu fires it’s coach and their best player enters the portal. We’ve been mentioned.

Hmm another player reached out to, and this late in the game. I was reliably informed Shaka liked his roster and we were set on transfers
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on July 03, 2022, 10:49:59 PM
Guess he wouldn’t mind another big with experience, so maybe he is not as excited about his prospects as you think??
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 03, 2022, 11:41:25 PM
Hmm another player reached out to, and this late in the game. I was reliably informed Shaka liked his roster and we were set on transfers

You don't think shaka likes his roster? I don't know who told you we were done with transfers.  We were done with transfers that were in the portal a month ago. This guy is fresh in the portal as of two days ago
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on July 05, 2022, 08:44:53 AM
You don't think shaka likes his roster? I don't know who told you we were done with transfers.  We were done with transfers that were in the portal a month ago. This guy is fresh in the portal as of two days ago

Lmao

Anyway, hope Shaka gets his guy, seems like he could be a solid contributor 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Tha Hound on July 08, 2022, 12:58:47 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Source: LIU Brooklyn transfer Eral Penn has committed to DePaul.


Add him to the list of guys Shaka definitely did not want
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 08, 2022, 01:34:41 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Source: LIU Brooklyn transfer Eral Penn has committed to DePaul.


Add him to the list of guys Shaka definitely did not want

I don't know if Shaka wanted him or not. But he didn't want Shaka. In and out of the portal in less than a week.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on July 08, 2022, 01:40:30 PM
So is it just a coincidence that he announced a transfer immediately after Rod Strickland was named head coach, and then he transferred to Strickland's alma mater?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on July 08, 2022, 01:54:38 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on July 08, 2022, 01:57:39 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Source: LIU Brooklyn transfer Eral Penn has committed to DePaul.


Add him to the list of guys Shaka definitely did not want

He knew he couldn’t hack it in the Big East
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on July 08, 2022, 03:19:22 PM
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Source: LIU Brooklyn transfer Eral Penn has committed to DePaul.


Add him to the list of guys Shaka definitely did not want

I think he would rather play more than 15 mpg.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on July 08, 2022, 07:26:28 PM
So is it just a coincidence that he announced a transfer immediately after Rod Strickland was named head coach, and then he transferred to Strickland's alma mater?
There has to be a conspiracy theory
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on July 08, 2022, 08:40:37 PM
There has to be a conspiracy theory
The ghost of Ray Meyer is to blame.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on July 08, 2022, 09:01:49 PM
There has to be a conspiracy theory


"Conspiracy" is a bit of an over-statement.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on July 08, 2022, 09:23:02 PM

"Conspiracy" is a bit of an over-statement.
You think? I enjoy, Q
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on September 19, 2022, 11:29:42 AM
Sure, but "culture" is going to wear thin real fast.  Marquette should be getting players that want to win, and are at least good enough to be be paid professionals in the near future.  Sticking around for 3 years because you like being around Shaka so much shouldn't be a criteria.

https://www.wxyz.com/sports/emu-basketball-star-former-top-recruit-emoni-bates-arrested-on-gun-charges
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on September 19, 2022, 11:36:17 AM
https://www.wxyz.com/sports/emu-basketball-star-former-top-recruit-emoni-bates-arrested-on-gun-charges

Surprised Izzo let him get away
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on September 19, 2022, 12:02:38 PM
https://www.wxyz.com/sports/emu-basketball-star-former-top-recruit-emoni-bates-arrested-on-gun-charges

Just trying to protect his family.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 19, 2022, 12:19:08 PM
https://www.wxyz.com/sports/emu-basketball-star-former-top-recruit-emoni-bates-arrested-on-gun-charges

Hah, not sure what that has to do with my post you quoted from April!
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on September 19, 2022, 01:10:29 PM
Hah, not sure what that has to do with my post you quoted from April!

It was the whole starter to the conversation of why Bates wouldn't be targeted at Marquette. Not from just you, but that's where it seemed to originate. I could be wrong on where the conversation started but it seems many of us were correct in that Bates doesn't care about winning 1st and isn't a culture fit for the program.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 19, 2022, 02:05:14 PM
It was the whole starter to the conversation of why Bates wouldn't be targeted at Marquette. Not from just you, but that's where it seemed to originate. I could be wrong on where the conversation started but it seems many of us were correct in that Bates doesn't care about winning 1st and isn't a culture fit for the program.

Ok fair enough.  But I think your scoop-foo needs work.  I think it started here:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63190.msg1443867#msg1443867

I don't think I've ever commented specifically on Bates, and my comments were all about talent (not specific to Bates).
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on September 19, 2022, 03:02:36 PM
Ok fair enough.  But I think your scoop-foo needs work.  I think it started here:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63190.msg1443867#msg1443867

I don't think I've ever commented specifically on Bates, and my comments were all about talent (not specific to Bates).

This is in reference to Emoni Bates, not Manny Bates.

Emoni was the one people thought Shaka should recruit because he was a former #1 Prospect. Just was clear to me that he isn't in it to win. He's there to advance and collect a paycheck and now obviously has other issues.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Its DJOver on September 19, 2022, 03:14:41 PM
This is in reference to Emoni Bates, not Manny Bates.

Emoni was the one people thought Shaka should recruit because he was a former #1 Prospect. Just was clear to me that he isn't in it to win. He's there to advance and collect a paycheck and now obviously has other issues.

No one actually said this though.  There were just people scoffing at the idea that the only reason MU didn't reach out to Bates was because of "cultural fit".
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 19, 2022, 04:11:38 PM
This is in reference to Emoni Bates, not Manny Bates.

Emoni was the one people thought Shaka should recruit because he was a former #1 Prospect. Just was clear to me that he isn't in it to win. He's there to advance and collect a paycheck and now obviously has other issues.

Whoops, my foo needs help too, but then here's the actual start, lol
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63190.msg1444232#msg1444232
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on September 20, 2022, 06:39:24 AM
No one actually said this though.  There were just people scoffing at the idea that the only reason MU didn't reach out to Bates was because of "cultural fit".
Apparently, his story is he borrowed a friend's car, and the gun was already there, unbeknownst to him. My question is, did Memphis take back all of the gifts they gave him to go there?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on September 20, 2022, 09:43:31 AM
Apparently, his story is he borrowed a friend's car, and the gun was already there, unbeknownst to him. My question is, did Memphis take back all of the gifts they gave him to go there?

Memphis took back everything except the unregistered fire arm they gave him.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on September 20, 2022, 10:44:17 AM
The only way to stop a bad basketball transfer with a gun is with a good basketball transfer with a gun.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: TheyWereCones on September 20, 2022, 11:45:15 AM
The only way to stop a bad basketball transfer with a gun is with a good basketball transfer with a gun.

How original.  Not tired at all.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DoctorV on September 20, 2022, 02:59:44 PM
The only way to stop a bad basketball transfer with a gun is with a good basketball transfer with a gun.

I laughed
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on September 20, 2022, 04:33:43 PM
How original.  Not tired at all.
Actually funny
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 13, 2022, 03:07:57 PM
Emoni Bates reinstated to full status at EMU after felony charges dropped.   

Pled down to a misdemeanor.   Community service, mentor program. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 25, 2022, 04:15:05 PM
Our old friend Jose Perez entered the Portal today after Steve Masillo was replaced two weeks before the start of the season. Perez was named preseason player of the year for the MAAC. Reportedly 6-7 players could be entering the Portal after the decision.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: panda on October 25, 2022, 04:39:31 PM
Our old friend Jose Perez entered the Portal today after Steve Masillo was replaced two weeks before the start of the season. Perez was named preseason player of the year for the MAAC. Reportedly 6-7 players could be entering the Portal after the decision.

I can see them struggling to field a team this year if others decide to leave as well.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 25, 2022, 04:54:10 PM
I can see them struggling to field a team this year if others decide to leave as well.

The most recent article I saw said the entire team could go on the Portal.

Nobody knows why they replaced Masiello now. The speculation is his contract was up, and they couldn't come to an agreement on an extension. If that's the case, what are they thinking?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on October 25, 2022, 06:54:11 PM
I can't see that being it. You have months to work out an extension. Gotta be something conduct related to fire him 2 the before the season.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 25, 2022, 07:37:38 PM
I can't see that being it. You have months to work out an extension. Gotta be something conduct related to fire him 2 the before the season.

This is from the MC website. It makes no sense. There’s got to be something else (maybe pulling an Idoka or Patrick Beilein?)

Said Marianne Reilly, director of athletics for Manhattan College, "We thank Coach Masiello for his service and wish him well. As we look to building successful teams for the future -- and with recruiting season beginning soon and Coach Masiello's  contract ending in April 2023 -- we determined that it was the right time to begin rebuilding from the top down."   
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on October 25, 2022, 08:01:37 PM
Apparently the AD got an extension and he didn’t get along with her. He went right to the President and he told him to take a hike.

Entering the portal now doesn’t make much sense. They are already using their scholarships for this year so I think they will all just end up skipping this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on October 25, 2022, 09:28:47 PM
Apparently the AD got an extension and he didn’t get along with her. He went right to the President and he told him to take a hike.

Entering the portal now doesn’t make much sense. They are already using their scholarships for this year so I think they will all just end up skipping this year.
Well I think with the abrupt coaching change the players should get a break.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on October 26, 2022, 04:51:32 AM
Well I think with the abrupt coaching change the players should get a break.

Transferring at semester as long as they don’t suit up this season?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on October 26, 2022, 09:39:41 AM
Our old friend Jose Perez entered the Portal today after Steve Masillo was replaced two weeks before the start of the season. Perez was named preseason player of the year for the MAAC. Reportedly 6-7 players could be entering the Portal after the decision.

I think Jose turns 30 this year. 
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: DoctorV on October 26, 2022, 03:51:20 PM
I think Jose turns 30 this year.

Hahah well done.

Has Shaka reached out yet? 😂
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: JWags85 on October 27, 2022, 12:36:21 PM
For someone only 45 and still at his first HC gig until a few days ago, pretty eventful career for Masiello.  First getting the USF job and then having it yanked cause he didn't graduate from UK like he said, and now this.  Also not very smart to beef with your AD when your employer took you back after you were going to leave for a better job AND lied about your qualifications...especially when you've been thoroughly mediocre for years.

Maybe he hops on the Cross County Pkwy over to New Rochelle and reunites with his mentor Rick?  Maybe gets to be coach in waiting at Iona?
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on October 30, 2022, 10:20:04 PM
Looks like José Pérez to WV
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 30, 2022, 10:25:46 PM
Almost heaven.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on October 31, 2022, 09:56:27 AM
Almost heaven.
Lol…..had to sing it when I read it.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 09, 2022, 10:51:06 AM
Looks like José Pérez to WV


So apparently he is still enrolled at Manhattan to finish out the semester, will be eligible at WVU in December, and will not be on scholarship. But he has an NIL deal in place.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: jfp61 on November 09, 2022, 10:55:01 AM

So apparently he is still enrolled at Manhattan to finish out the semester, will be eligible at WVU in December, and will not be on scholarship. But he has an NIL deal in place.

Jose Perez and Tre Mitchell on the same team is a tire fire.

They might play well, but Bob Huggins might croak having to deal with that headache.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on November 09, 2022, 01:56:28 PM
Jose Perez and Tre Mitchell on the same team is a tire fire.

They might play well, but Bob Huggins might croak having to deal with that headache.
Huggy bear deals with a headache every morning
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 09, 2022, 02:14:05 PM

So apparently he is still enrolled at Manhattan to finish out the semester, will be eligible at WVU in December, and will not be on scholarship. But he has an NIL deal in place.

has a waiver been granted? He needs two: multiple time transfer and transferring into another school mid-year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on November 09, 2022, 02:40:23 PM
Huggy bear deals with a headache every morning

Well played.

Did you see the game (I cannot remember the opponent) where he got tossed but kept yelling, went into the tunnel but turned around and came back out, still fired up? That was a classic Huggy meltdown.

Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on November 09, 2022, 02:56:16 PM
has a waiver been granted? He needs two: multiple time transfer and transferring into another school mid-year.

I don’t believe so. They’ll argue, “the coaching situation was all effd up, please let him play”. 

Seems like a good chance this 24 year old never sees the court.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 09, 2022, 05:45:31 PM
Can’t wait to see Jose play for the Mountaineers
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 09, 2022, 06:26:55 PM
I don’t believe so. They’ll argue, “the coaching situation was all effd up, please let him play”. 

Seems like a good chance this 24 year old never sees the court.

Next year. The COVID year gets him a sixth year assuming he sits out thus year.
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on November 09, 2022, 07:39:50 PM
Can’t wait to see Jose play for the Mountaineers
He'll kill it
Title: Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 16, 2022, 06:22:41 PM
I don’t believe so. They’ll argue, “the coaching situation was all effd up, please let him play”. 

Seems like a good chance this 24 year old never sees the court.

Perez denied. Zero surprise, despite all the dingbats you’ll see crying that this is a crime. Goodman practically crying on Twitter. Lol.