2022 Transfer Portal Thread

[WhiteTrash]

People are actually surprised with this ?

Been happening for years, but it's just in a public space now.

I think the people who thought NIL was no big deal and over due are the ones who are surprised.

People who raised concern about NIL read the tea leaves correctly.

<note: there is nothing pro or con about NIL in this post>

[wadesworld]

I think the people who thought NIL was no big deal and over due are the ones who are surprised.

People who raised concern about NIL read the tea leaves correctly.

<note: there is nothing pro or con about NIL in this post>

If people knew that players were going to the highest bidder for decades, just under the table, why would they be concerned about NIL?  It's the same thing, it's just above board now.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think the people who thought NIL was no big deal and over due are the ones who are surprised.

People who raised concern about NIL read the tea leaves correctly.

<note: there is nothing pro or con about NIL in this post>

No one is surprised by this. Some just don't see it as a problem

[Uncle Rico]

Quite happy it's happening.  It's about time

[Shooter McGavin]

If people knew that players were going to the highest bidder for decades, just under the table, why would they be concerned about NIL?  It's the same thing, it's just above board now.

Wade's,

I'm not so sure it's the same thing.  Pack is getting life changing money. The amounts will go up from here because it is above board. 

The under the table money couldn't have been that great or the emphasis on getting paid in the pros would not have been as strong among the players.  The NIL money in some cases now will be more than pros make.

There was not as much knowledge about what other players were getting from the underworld before and players could not be as upset with getting less.  Now it will happen regularly.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

The NCAA could have embraced NIL years ago and set up some structure.  But they didn't and now we have the wild west version of NIL.

Not sure how things will play out, but the NCAA has proven to be a toothless, incompetent facade for decades.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.

[DFW HOYA]

Three more exits from Georgetown, even a walk-on.

Donald Carey, G, 10.9 ppg
Collin Holloway, F, 7.2 ppg
Chuma Azinge, G, 0.6 ppg

[panda]

https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status/1520139297978040321?s=21&t=jy1cF4FN4d-dlJrvp-CquA

kids these days just don't want to handle the adversity that we all did growing up

[al1984]

The NCAA could have embraced NIL years ago and set up some structure.  But they didn't and now we have the wild west version of NIL.

Not sure how things will play out, but the NCAA has proven to be a toothless, incompetent facade for decades.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.

[Nukem2]

The NCAA could have embraced NIL years ago and set up some structure.  But they didn't and now we have the wild west version of NIL.

Not sure how things will play out, but the NCAA has proven to be a toothless, incompetent facade for decades.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.

They could have, but would the results ultimately be any different.  Once that cash door is open.............

[brewcity77]

They could have, but would the results ultimately be any different.  Once that cash door is open.............

If they had willingly put structure and rules in ahead of time that benefited everyone involved and didn't force the states to turn it into the Wild West? I think the results would be absolutely different.

This is the failing of Emmert and why he was a disaster, and why Marquette should have a clear, detailed, public facing NIL. The reason we are where we are is basically the NCAA said "go for it, no rules, no regulations." Of course it's a clusterf**k. This disaster is why Marquette should be leading on this. Because if you don't lead, someone else will and by the time you catch up, you'll already be too far behind to compete.

[WhiteTrash]

Blaming Ememert for the NCAA problems is like blaming the McDonald's manager for the McDonald's menu.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Blaming Ememert for the NCAA problems is like blaming the McDonald's manager for the McDonald's menu.

Eh, more like blaming the McDonald's CEO. He's not the one making the menu changes but ultimately the buck stops with him.

[brewcity77]

Blaming Ememert for the NCAA problems is like blaming the McDonald's manager for the McDonald's menu.

No, Emmert isn't Roger Goodell, where he's just a body shield for the NCAA member presidents. He's the one that oversaw the NCAA Tournament insurance at 60% of its value so when they lost 2020, all the members lost tons of money. He's the one who has overseen stagnant TV revenue growth while other live sport values have exploded. It's not just his inaction and simultaneous bungling on the transfer portal, it's how the NCAA has screwed up repeatedly with their golden goose for years.

[WhiteTrash]

No, Emmert isn't Roger Goodell, where he's just a body shield for the NCAA member presidents. He's the one that oversaw the NCAA Tournament insurance at 60% of its value so when they lost 2020, all the members lost tons of money. He's the one who has overseen stagnant TV revenue growth while other live sport values have exploded. It's not just his inaction and simultaneous bungling on the transfer portal, it's how the NCAA has screwed up repeatedly with their golden goose for years.

If Emmeret or any NCAA President had the power you'd like to think he has, he'd be making waaaay more money. He is mostly a figure head of an organization that does a great job with 98% of its sports and athletes.  The NCAA was created by and run by it's member institutions. 

The NCAA president has always been the whipping boy of the media and cheating schools. I 100% guaranty you the next president will be treated the same because the position has little power. But the media will lazily conclude that it was a bad hire.

I think there are legitimate problems with the NCAA but people need to hold MU, Texas, Washington State, Norfolk State, etc, etc. accountable. 

[Uncle Rico]

If Emmeret or any NCAA President had the power you'd like to think he has, he'd be making waaaay more money. He is mostly a figure head of an organization that does a great job with 98% of its sports and athletes.  The NCAA was created by and run by it's member institutions. 

The NCAA president has always been the whipping boy of the media and cheating schools. I 100% guaranty you the next president will be treated the same because the position has little power. But the media will lazily conclude that it was a bad hire.

I think there are legitimate problems with the NCAA but people need to hold MU, Texas, Washington State, Norfolk State, etc, etc. accountable.

This is accurate.  School presidents have washed their hands of the decision making for decades in these matters because they have had a whipping boy, whether the NCAA President or League Commissioners. 

That doesn't excuse Emmert who was terrible and would have been advised to say less at times but the people that run universities have a lot of Captain Renault in them

[Nukem2]

This is accurate.  School presidents have washed their hands of the decision making for decades in these matters because they have had a whipping boy, whether the NCAA President or League Commissioners. 

That doesn't excuse Emmert who was terrible and would have been advised to say less at times but the people that run universities have a lot of Captain Renault in them

Yes, Emmert could have done a better job.  But, in the end, he is rather the low man on the totem pole doing what the member schools and their presidents and trustees tell their ADs to do and who work with conference commissioners who both work with the NCAA administration.  Tons of blame all over the place.  Emmert is indeed a figurehead.

[Uncle Rico]

Yes, Emmert could have done a better job.  But, in the end, he is rather the low man on the totem pole doing what the member schools and their presidents and trustees tell their ADs to do and who work with conference commissioners who both work with the NCAA administration.  Tons of blame all over the place.  Emmert is indeed a figurehead.

I think back to Gordon Gee standing at a podium saying he hopes Jim Tressel doesn't fire him.

[brewcity77]

Unlike Goodell, Emmert had an actual job. The NCAA Tournament insurance policy, the NCAA Tournament rights negotiations, and yes, leading on policy. Just because he treated his job like he was just a meat shield doesn't mean that's what he was limited to.

[Uncle Rico]

Unlike Goodell, Emmert had an actual job. The NCAA Tournament insurance policy, the NCAA Tournament rights negotiations, and yes, leading on policy. Just because he treated his job like he was just a meat shield doesn't mean that's what he was limited to.

I don't disagree and think both things are true.  He was terrible at his job and university presidents have been unprepared for a long time

[WhiteTrash]

Unlike Goodell, Emmert had an actual job. The NCAA Tournament insurance policy, the NCAA Tournament rights negotiations, and yes, leading on policy. Just because he treated his job like he was just a meat shield doesn't mean that's what he was limited to.

IF that is true, then shame on the members for going dirt cheap on compensating for that position. They could have paid FMV for someone to be in that position of power. The schools are ultimately at fault.

If MU hires a coach willing to take $100K per year, I'm not going to be mad at the coach if we go 2-28.

[Uncle Rico]

Milwaukee native James Graham heading to Missouri State.  Was at Maryland

[Miss Katie’s]

So is it correct that nobody other than Greg can transfer now without sitting a year?

[brewcity77]

So is it correct that nobody other than Greg can transfer now without sitting a year?

Unless granted a waiver, that is correct. Unless there's someone that entered the portal late yesterday that hasn't been announced yet.

[jfp61]

So is it correct that nobody other than Greg can transfer now without sitting a year?

Without a waiver. So if a player gets out recruited at MU now, wants to leave, and Shaka wouldn't mind either way. Shaka might say "there is no longer a scholarship available" to allow the player to be granted a waiver.

But my guess is no one is transferring at this point. They wouldn't be guaranteed to get a waiver.