2022 Transfer Portal Thread

[LAZER]

Getting Pack would be huge. PG might not be a priority, but if he becomes your best player, you have to add him.

And wouldn't Pack play SG? If Lewis decides to stay and Shaka lands Pack, the outlook for next season is drastically better. I'm not counting on either, however.

[PGsHeroes32]

I'm trying to figure out how it could work. No way we can accommodate both Ramey and Pack.  I'm assuming Justin is here, they'd have to send Ellis to the portal because we NEED a 2nd center. Maybe move Kolek back to the 2 and focus on shooting and run Pack/Jones at the 1?

Pack/S. Jones
Kolek/K. Jones/Mitchell
Lewis/Joplin/Ross
Prosper/Gold/Itejere
Ighodaro/Transfer

The liklihood of Pack and Ramey both wanting to come and Lewis staying is basically 0.

But in that scenario. You make room however necessary.

I like the young bucks we got, but with portal ball things are always reloadable. You play to win now. Pack/Ramey/Lewis would be an elite trio.

[Tha Hound]

Give me a backcourt of Ramey and Pack.  Yes please.

Then drop the bag for Lewis to return and let's roll.

"Lets upgrade our deepest positions by recruiting over some of our most promising talent and disregard our true need in the frontcourt"

Im all for upgrading the talent but I think people are going to be sorely disappointed if we're already trying to figure out how to fit in the best player in the portal into our squad. Think back to what we landed last year in the portal. Ended up being good players but none in the top 50. I think that's a much more realistic barometer.

[Hards Alumni]

Ya exactly the Carter to Perez comparisons are just bad and lazy because both guys are a little thicker...Perez couldn't jump over an encyclopedia while Carter throw down with ease...and like you said the competition they've gone against before transferring isn't even close

build whatever narrative you'd like

[CountryRoads]

If MU somehow landed both Ramey and Pack, they'd lose a few unexpected guys (like Mitchell) I think. Probably be better next season, but then in 2023-2024 we would need to fill more holes.

I think you try and put your best team on the floor each and every year. Building a team over multiple years seems too risky nowadays.

[GoldenEagles03]

If MU somehow landed both Ramey and Pack, they'd lose a few unexpected guys (like Mitchell) I think.

I wouldn't want to lose 3 years of Stevie Mitchell for 1 year of Ramey. Just my opinion. 

However, I think given the connection and need on the roster, Ramey fits better than Pack at this point in time.

[wadesworld]

"Lets upgrade our deepest positions by recruiting over some of our most promising talent and disregard our true need in the frontcourt"

Im all for upgrading the talent but I think people are going to be sorely disappointed if we're already trying to figure out how to fit in the best player in the portal into our squad. Think back to what we landed last year in the portal. Ended up being good players but none in the top 50. I think that's a much more realistic barometer.

Our backcourt got completely owned in an 8/9 matchup. We need a ton better play out of our backcourt next year. If it comes from improvement from our current players, awesome. It'll take monumental improvement, but it's possible.

But right now I'd take guys that have proven it at a high major level already if they want to come to MU.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I'd take Bates or Washington first.  Then one of Pack or Ramey, since I assume MU will have at least 2 openings.

Either Pack or Ramey can play next to Kolek.  I'm in favor of playing two PG together as long as one is 6-3, like Kolek.

[Viper]

I'm trying to figure out how it could work. No way we can accommodate both Ramey and Pack.  I'm assuming Justin is here, they'd have to send Ellis to the portal because we NEED a 2nd center. Maybe move Kolek back to the 2 and focus on shooting and run Pack/Jones at the 1?

Pack/S. Jones
Kolek/K. Jones/Mitchell
Lewis/Joplin/Ross
Prosper/Gold/Itejere
Ighodaro/Transfer

is Ellis a write-off? If Pack in, I don't loose sleep if Kolek portaled

[GoldenEagles03]

is Ellis a write-off? If Pack in, I don't loose sleep if Kolek portaled

I dont think Ellis is a write off at this moment. If they are serious about adding Pack or Hayes or any other good guard I think he'd be first on the list though.

The odds of the staff letting Kolek (who led the Big East in assists) the opportunity to leave seems low.  Remember he was the A10 Freshman of the Year for his scoring, that just wasn't his role this year.  He could still play the 2 as he did at George Mason.

[shoothoops]

LSU is now down to zero scholarship players left on its roster from this past season.

[jfp61]

LSU is now down to zero scholarship players left on its roster from this past season.

Turn's out Baton Rouge isn't a big draw when your players aren't getting 25-50K+ under the rug.

[MU82]

The odds of the staff letting Kolek (who led the Big East in assists) the opportunity to leave seems low.  Remember he was the A10 Freshman of the Year for his scoring, that just wasn't his role this year.  He could still play the 2 as he did at George Mason.

I like Tyler, but "for his scoring" sounds like he was a 20ppg guy. Kolek averaged 11ppg on 40% shooting (36% from 3) at the next level down. Stepping up a level with Marquette, opponents dared him to shoot, especially as the season progressed, and all of his scoring/shooting-related numbers fell significantly. Unless he improves tremendously, I wouldn't be thrilled asking him to be a 2 in the Big East, given that he'd also be tasked with defending opponents' talented 2s.

You might be right about Shaka not giving him the opportunity to leave, but the difference between Kolek and Ramey or Pack is huge.

Gonna be an interesting next several weeks.

[Scoop Snoop]

From butlerguy03 on the holyland site-last part of a long post:

"Luko is a gigantic loss, but it's not like they were winning, so losing anyone is ok I guess. It would hurt more in a Murray State situation."

I cannot find anything to support that he is in the portal.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

From butlerguy03 on the holyland site-last part of a long post:

"Luko is a gigantic loss, but it's not like they were winning, so losing anyone is ok I guess. It would hurt more in a Murray State situation."

I cannot find anything to support this.

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1509958866062221321?t=vw1DUQgmW1NN0EptMNAgVg&s=19

[Scoop Snoop]

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1509958866062221321?t=vw1DUQgmW1NN0EptMNAgVg&s=19

Thanks!

[PBRme]

I like Tyler, but "for his scoring" sounds like he was a 20ppg guy. Kolek averaged 11ppg on 40% shooting (36% from 3) at the next level down. Stepping up a level with Marquette, opponents dared him to shoot, especially as the season progressed, and all of his scoring/shooting-related numbers fell significantly. Unless he improves tremendously, I wouldn't be thrilled asking him to be a 2 in the Big East, given that he'd also be tasked with defending opponents' talented 2s.

You might be right about Shaka not giving him the opportunity to leave, but the difference between Kolek and Ramey or Pack is huge.

Gonna be an interesting next several weeks.

I'd be happy if Kolek would make his layups

[rgoode57]

The transfer portal has to be a bitch for coaches to work. In Shaka's case, he has, I think, just one open spot right now or two spots if Justin leaves. Obviously, he needs a rebounding, rim protecting 5 who can score a bit. But, if Justin leaves, then you either have to find another scoring, rebounding wing or trust that Joplin and Omax can fill that role. But, by the time you get a decision from Justin, the guys you may have wanted to pursue in the portal may be committed elsewhere. Or, you may think you are covering your needs and then suddenly two guys like Joplin and Ellis decide they are going into the portal and you have one or two openings you were not planning on. Of course, every coach is in this same position. The transfer portal seems like a chaotic mess.

Someone mentioned in another thread that Shaka might have to encourage Ellis to enter the portal. I don't see that happening at all. Shaka recruited him to Texas and then got Ellis to come with him to MU. I don't think he is going to recruit over him now. Shaka does not impress me as that kind of guy. The pressure to win is huge, but I think Shaka places more emphasis on relationships than that.

[BCHoopster]

Ellis comes from a tough upbringing. I would bet he thinks of Shaka as a father figure.  He might see some action next year but more likely as a junior.  In saying that, he probably will be gone next week

[Viper]

My gut says the team remains intact (Justin included), Shaka has two recruits incoming, hence he's looking for a big. Plus, the kid that rs'd might be good, and possibly Ellis takes a step up. If this is the case, outlook is ok.

[MU82]

Always Be Recruiting. Period. If it ends up leading to some roster "chaos," oh well.

As for Simas Lukosius ... he showed some flashes this season, and I think he's gonna be a real good player. It will be interesting to see where he ends up.

[panda]

Just a wild guess - Once Fresno State wins whatever championship they're playing in, Orlando Robinson will become the most sought after transfer in the portal. He will have a Tshiebwe type impact for a blue blood.

[JWags85]

Just a wild guess - Once Fresno State wins whatever championship they're playing in, Orlando Robinson will become the most sought after transfer in the portal. He will have a Tshiebwe type impact for a blue blood.

Are we sure he's staying in college? I thought he was a pretty consensus early to mid 2nd rounder?

[panda]

Are we sure he's staying in college? I thought he was a pretty consensus early to mid 2nd rounder?

No clue - selfishly I'd love to see him at a big time program next season.

[GoldenEagles03]

My gut says the team remains intact (Justin included), Shaka has two recruits incoming, hence he's looking for a big. Plus, the kid that rs'd might be good, and possibly Ellis takes a step up. If this is the case, outlook is ok.

3 recruits not 2