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TedBaxter

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 31, 2022, 11:40:03 PM
Despite that, sign me up for Warren Washington. Personally my top target of who we've offered so far.

Two of the lesser publicized big guys, Warren Washington and Clifton Moore (Lasalle), intrigue me as much as anyone in the portal at the spot Marquette needs right now.  Do you feel Marquette has a shot with Washington?
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 04:14:15 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical) with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uVUSBi3u0E

There is this classic.

Hards Alumni

You guys remember the last guy that came to MU with a frame similar to Noah Carter?

Jose Perez

IMO, they're the same dude.  Round hard nosed guys that will beat up on mid major competition, but their game doesn't translate well to high-major competition.

Scoop Snoop

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Quote from: MU82 on March 31, 2022, 07:29:22 PM
I won't slam Kuath. He did what he was brought here to do. That one Seton Hall game where he stuffed Obiagu a bazillion times in the first few minutes really set the tone for that game, and he had several other nice shot-blocking games for us. So thanks for those, and I'm glad he was on the team.

That being said, we need more from our 5 ... and I'm hopeful that Shaka will successfully recruit that player or players.

Nice summary 82.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 01, 2022, 07:03:16 AM
You guys remember the last guy that came to MU with a frame similar to Noah Carter?

Jose Perez

IMO, they're the same dude.  Round hard nosed guys that will beat up on mid major competition, but their game doesn't translate well to high-major competition.

With zero knowledge of the guy and only based on the descriptions on scoop,  I thought the same thing.  This sounds like Jose Perez.

mubb3434

Per Jon Rothstein, KSU's Nigel Pack is receiving interest from:

Gonzaga, Arizona, Purdue, Xavier, Tennessee, Miami, Ohio State, NC State and....Marquette

Arguably the best player in the portal!

jfp61

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 01, 2022, 07:16:02 AM
With zero knowledge of the guy and only based on the descriptions on scoop,  I thought the same thing.  This sounds like Jose Perez.

Yea, scoop is just wrong. Jose Perez's O ratings 104.6, 94.7,84, 101. His ShotQuality percentile's 32nd, 24th, and 55th.

Noah Carter's O ratings 125.1, 110.5, 111. His ShotQuality percentile 97th, 89th, and 92nd.


JWags85

Nijel Pack was born in Oconomowoc, thus if he doesn't transfer here it's a massive failure

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jfp61 on April 01, 2022, 08:45:54 AM
Yea, scoop is just wrong. Jose Perez's O ratings 104.6, 94.7,84, 101. His ShotQuality percentile's 32nd, 24th, and 55th.

Noah Carter's O ratings 125.1, 110.5, 111. His ShotQuality percentile 97th, 89th, and 92nd.

They're the same type of player, not necessarily the same quality.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on April 01, 2022, 08:48:46 AM
Nijel Pack was born in Oconomowoc, thus if he doesn't transfer here it's a massive failure

Need to avoid the green weeeeenie on this one, aina?
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: jfp61 on April 01, 2022, 08:45:54 AM
Yea, scoop is just wrong.

That actually never happens.  The collective is always right.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 01, 2022, 09:27:48 AM
That actually never happens.  The collective is always right.

Except when they say who they think the SOTG is.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: jfp61 on April 01, 2022, 08:45:54 AM
Yea, scoop is just wrong. Jose Perez's O ratings 104.6, 94.7,84, 101. His ShotQuality percentile's 32nd, 24th, and 55th.

Noah Carter's O ratings 125.1, 110.5, 111. His ShotQuality percentile 97th, 89th, and 92nd.

I'd also add that the competition that Carter has faced at Northern Iowa is a step above the competition Perez was facing at Gardner-Webb.

That being said, I don't think we ever got to see the best of Perez. COVID knocked him on his arse during the summer and I don't think he was in playing shape by the time the season started.
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TAMU

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TedBaxter

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 31, 2022, 04:14:15 PM
Just to reiterate my wish list:

1) 6'8 Glass Cleaner with the ability to step out and drain the 3.

2)  Burner PG with handles that can create and score in the paint.

3)  Knock down spot shooter with size.

4)  Jack of all trades switchable/glue guy.

5)  High flying wing(40 inch vertical) with the ability to get to the free throw line and attack with power.

#2 may be Sean Jones.  #3 may be Ben Gold and #5 may be Chase Ross, alhthough not sure he's the 40" vertical guy.  Maybe mid 30's.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2022, 09:45:19 AM
I'd also add that the competition that Carter has faced at Northern Iowa is a step above the competition Perez was facing at Gardner-Webb.

That being said, I don't think we ever got to see the best of Perez. COVID knocked him on his arse during the summer and I don't think he was in playing shape by the time the season started.

Eh, maybe.  Perez averaged 21 a game in the MAAC.  IMO, a very comparable conference with the likes of Iona and St. Peter's.

But I absolutely agree with you that Jose never had a real fair shake at MU.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 01, 2022, 10:05:50 AM
Eh, maybe.  Perez averaged 21 a game in the MAAC.  IMO, a very comparable conference with the likes of Iona and St. Peter's.

I know he transferred to the MAAC for his 5th year, but he came from Gardner Webb. Gardner Webb is in the Big South....which KenPom ranked as the 30th (out of 32) strongest conference that year. The top teams were #140 Winthrop, #186 Radford, and #218 Gardner Webb.

Comparatively, Carter put up his numbers in the Missouri Valley, which KenPom ranks as the 11th strongest conference and has teams that include #29 Loyola Chicago, #70 Missouri State, #84 Drake, #91 Northern Iowa, #96 Bradley, and #125 Southern Illinois.

Even if you compare Carter to Perez' 5th year in the MAAC, the MAAC is the 16th strongest conference (And there' a huge gap between #11 and #12) and the top teams are #89 Iona, #102 St. Peter's, and #158 Monmouth.

I'd argue that Perez transferred from and transferred to a low major conference. Carter is transferring from a true mid-major conference. I'm not sold on him either from a fit perspective, but I'd expect him to be significantly better than Perez.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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GoldenEagles03

Nijel Pack is maybe the best player in the portal.

1st Team All Big 12.  The problem is that he is 6'0" and and PG.  He scores like an off guard but at 6'0" itd be tough to slide him over to the 2 and have success defensviely.

Would be an incredible addition but the PG room is pretty full with Kolek/Jones/Mitchell/Ellis
VIOLENCE!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Pack absolutely fits the system and would instantly become our second best player (best if Lewis goes pro). But PG doesn't seem to be a need of ours at the moment. If we were to land Pack we would still need to land a big which means that someone would need to be outSmarted. Lewis could go pro, but then I would argue we would need a big AND a Lewis replacement which still leaves us over 1.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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jfp61

New 4 they reached out too. Ali Ali from Akron. Decent wing.

Georgia, Marquette, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, NC State, Georgia Tech, Florida, Virginia Tech, Saint Louis, Memphis, Arkansas, Mizzou, USC, Northwestern, Loyola, Virginia, and SMU

Seems like a long list.

wadesworld

Give me a backcourt of Ramey and Pack.  Yes please.

Then drop the bag for Lewis to return and let's roll.

EasyDuzIt

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2022, 10:32:35 AM
I know he transferred to the MAAC for his 5th year, but he came from Gardner Webb. Gardner Webb is in the Big South....which KenPom ranked as the 30th (out of 32) strongest conference that year. The top teams were #140 Winthrop, #186 Radford, and #218 Gardner Webb.

Comparatively, Carter put up his numbers in the Missouri Valley, which KenPom ranks as the 11th strongest conference and has teams that include #29 Loyola Chicago, #70 Missouri State, #84 Drake, #91 Northern Iowa, #96 Bradley, and #125 Southern Illinois.

Even if you compare Carter to Perez' 5th year in the MAAC, the MAAC is the 16th strongest conference (And there' a huge gap between #11 and #12) and the top teams are #89 Iona, #102 St. Peter's, and #158 Monmouth.

I'd argue that Perez transferred from and transferred to a low major conference. Carter is transferring from a true mid-major conference. I'm not sold on him either from a fit perspective, but I'd expect him to be significantly better than Perez.

Ya exactly the Carter to Perez comparisons are just bad and lazy because both guys are a little thicker...Perez couldn't jump over an encyclopedia while Carter throw down with ease...and like you said the competition they've gone against before transferring isn't even close

LAZER

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2022, 11:11:54 AM
Pack absolutely fits the system and would instantly become our second best player (best if Lewis goes pro). But PG doesn't seem to be a need of ours at the moment. If we were to land Pack we would still need to land a big which means that someone would need to be outSmarted. Lewis could go pro, but then I would argue we would need a big AND a Lewis replacement which still leaves us over 1.
Getting Pack would be huge. PG might not be a priority, but if he becomes your best player, you have to add him.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: jfp61 on April 01, 2022, 11:18:29 AM
New 4 they reached out too. Ali Ali from Akron. Decent wing.

Georgia, Marquette, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, NC State, Georgia Tech, Florida, Virginia Tech, Saint Louis, Memphis, Arkansas, Mizzou, USC, Northwestern, Loyola, Virginia, and SMU

Seems like a long list.

2nd Team All-MAC this season. Pure stretch 4. Shot 41% from deep on over 100 attempts. Skinny as a twig and no help on the boards. He did erupt a bit at the end of the season, averaging 17 points a game on 45% 3P shooting in the last 9 games in the MAC. Only played two games against a high major this season. 17 points on 4/7 3P shooting against Ohio State in the season opener...and 5 points on 2/10 shooting against UCLA in the NCAAT.

Wouldn't be my top pick but 6'8" guys who shoot 41% from 3 don't grow on trees.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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JTJ3

Ramey or Pack.  Get one of them and that would be huge.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2022, 11:11:54 AM
Pack absolutely fits the system and would instantly become our second best player (best if Lewis goes pro). But PG doesn't seem to be a need of ours at the moment. If we were to land Pack we would still need to land a big which means that someone would need to be outSmarted. Lewis could go pro, but then I would argue we would need a big AND a Lewis replacement which still leaves us over 1.

I'm trying to figure out how it could work. No way we can accommodate both Ramey and Pack.  I'm assuming Justin is here, they'd have to send Ellis to the portal because we NEED a 2nd center. Maybe move Kolek back to the 2 and focus on shooting and run Pack/Jones at the 1?

Pack/S. Jones
Kolek/K. Jones/Mitchell
Lewis/Joplin/Ross
Prosper/Gold/Itejere
Ighodaro/Transfer
VIOLENCE!

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