2022 Transfer Portal Thread

[Pakuni]

I dont remember Shaka playing 3 PGs, but this system definitely is more effective with 2.  Shakas best seasons at Texas were with Coleman and Ramey on the court together.

Right. He definitely used those two a lot. After that, the next point guard on the roster appeared in only 15 games, averaging 10 minutes per.

[withoutbias]

Kolek shouldn't be on the court if he's not our point guard/handling the ball a large majority of the time.  The problem is he has to cut down the turnovers by a lot, and teams figured out how to defend him mid conference season on (keep him along the sideline when he goes to run the high pick and roll, don't hedge on him with your big, and don't collapse your defense on the drive).

[MU82]

And I think they tried that at times this year when DM would initiate the offense....and it didn't work great.

Well, perhaps one reason it didn't work great was that DM isn't close to being a PG. Loose handle, not a very good passer.

Lots of coaches like to use 2 PGs together. Very common in the NBA. Getting more common in college.

One thing about doing it here is that either Kolek would have to improve as a shooter or the other PG would have to be able to shoot/score. Because we couldn't afford to have 2 non-scoring perimeter players on the court.

[jfp61]

The minutes breakdown at MU this year and Texas literally says otherwise.

21- Ramey, Coleman, Jones
20- finished the year - Ramey, Coleman, Jones
19-  he liked Febres but he did play- Ramey, Coleman, and Roach together
18- He would have done it more in 2018 but Jones got leukemia

If you want to say that Jones wasn't a Pg at the end thats fine but he was recruited as one at first.

We will just always be guard heavy under this staff.

[brewcity77]

21- Ramey, Coleman, Jones
20- finished the year - Ramey, Coleman, Jones
19-  he liked Febres but he did play- Ramey, Coleman, and Roach together
18- He would have done it more in 2018 but Jones got leukemia

If you want to say that Jones wasn't a Pg at the end thats fine but he was recruited as one at first.

We will just always be guard heavy under this staff.

I think this is mostly definitional. Febres wasn't played like a PG, nor was Jones after his freshman year. I do think we will see a lot of 2 and 3 guard sets and I think they prefer to have multiple ball-handlers capable of initiating the offense, but I expect it will be a situation where you have say Kolek and Sean Jones playing together most of the time and a third guard like Morsell or Kam who is capable of handling it a bit but isn't really a point guard.

[Pakuni]

21- Ramey, Coleman, Jones
20- finished the year - Ramey, Coleman, Jones
19-  he liked Febres but he did play- Ramey, Coleman, and Roach together
18- He would have done it more in 2018 but Jones got leukemia

If you want to say that Jones wasn't a Pg at the end thats fine but he was recruited as one at first.

We will just always be guard heavy under this staff.

Guard heavy is not the same as "three point guards literally all the time."
Most college basketball teams are guard heavy.

And no, Andrew Jones is not a point guard, and neither was Kerwin Roach.

[wadesworld]

Is Cam Hayes a point guard or a combo guard?  Same with Stevie?  Kolek?

These things tend to work themselves out.

[brewcity77]

Is Cam Hayes a point guard or a combo guard?  Same with Stevie?  Kolek?

These things tend to work themselves out.

His scouting report had him as a pass-first point guard who is facilitator first. He was a good pick and roll creator, but I'm not sure a second pass-first guy with questionable shooting is what we need.

[JTJ3]

I expect we see a lot of 2 PG lineups with the 3rd guard being a wing guard type once Shaka has this roster fully where he wants it.

[PGsHeroes32]

I think Kolek would benefit from playing with another PG.  Having two guards that can initiate the offense and distribute would  make the offense harder to defend. Plus, Kolek might also benefit from more catch and shoot opportunities, since shooting off the dribble is a weakness at this point.

I agree.

Kolek isnt a complete nightmare shooting the ball when he can catch and shoot. Having another true ball handler will allow him to actually get those looks consistently.

And as you said it would just naturally make him harder to defend as a passer if a D knows he can give it up to another true ball handler at anytime.

We simply didnt have that this year.

Hoping a combo of S. Jones and a more experienced Stevie would give us that next year. Will definitely need Stevie and TK to become good catch and shoot guys at least though. Cant have 2 dudes who cant shoot a lick.

[Jockey]

Kolek isnt a complete nightmare shooting the ball when he can catch and shoot. Having another true ball handler will allow him to actually get those looks consistently.

I disagree. Show me a line drive 3 point shooter who is a great shooter. Look at the arc from Jones, Joplin, Lewis, Elliot and then look at the line drives from Kolek. The shoot needs to be re-worked.

[MUfan12]

I disagree. Show me a line drive 3 point shooter who is a great shooter. Look at the arc from Jones, Joplin, Lewis, Elliot and then look at the line drives from Kolek. The shoot needs to be re-worked.

Agree. More arc, and his guide hand needs to be repositioned. His ball comes off with funky rotation.

[GoldenEagles03]

Grant Basile 6'9" Forward from Wright State.

Averaged 18 and 8.  From Pewaukee, WI.

Shot nearly 48% from 3 last season. Around 31% from 3 for his career.

Played about 33 minutes a game this season and grabbed those 8.5 rebounds per game. Might be a real option for Marquette with the hometown appeal.

[panda]

https://twitter.com/5warrenw/status/1506314712467746822?s=21

This guy is an absolute baller. Tenacious rebounder and comfortable scorer. He'll have no troubles making the jump up in competition. Hope we take a look

[Herman Cain]

https://twitter.com/5warrenw/status/1506314712467746822?s=21

This guy is an absolute baller. Tenacious rebounder and comfortable scorer. He'll have no troubles making the jump up in competition. Hope we take a look

Would be fantastic to sign Warren Washington . 7 footer is just what we need

[TheREALwrk]

Yohan Traore (5-star Center, former LSU commit) decommitted today. Looks like Shaka was on him while at TX.

[Nukem2]

Grant Basile 6'9" Forward from Wright State.

Averaged 18 and 8.  From Pewaukee, WI.

Shot nearly 48% from 3 last season. Around 31% from 3 for his career.

Played about 33 minutes a game this season and grabbed those 8.5 rebounds per game. Might be a real option for Marquette with the hometown appeal.

His 3 point % was 28%  this past season, not 48%.

[CountryRoads]

https://twitter.com/5warrenw/status/1506314712467746822?s=21

This guy is an absolute baller. Tenacious rebounder and comfortable scorer. He'll have no troubles making the jump up in competition. Hope we take a look

Looks like he would have 2 seasons of eligibility.

[panda]

His 3 point % was 28%  this past season, not 48%.

I don't think he's capable of replicating his scoring numbers moving up a level or two. I see him more in a kellan Grady role with UK. Sharpshooter

[Viper]

Agree. More arc, and his guide hand needs to be repositioned. His ball comes off with funky rotation.

100%. Side-winder rotation equals inconsistent shooting.

[jfp61]

Guard heavy is not the same as "three point guards literally all the time."
Most college basketball teams are guard heavy.

And no, Andrew Jones is not a point guard, and neither was Kerwin Roach.

This is a philosophical (as related to basketball) question. Because technically its not feasible to have 3 point guards. You can judge whether they play the PG position by many things. You judge a team by "who brings it up", by "assist rate", by a "creator or receiver" role, by the height of the players on the court, by the position they were recruited to play.

With some of these characterizations, it is not possible to have 3 PGs. Looking "assist rate" and "creator or receiver" roles it is functionally impossible to have 3 PGs at 25-30% assist rate guards will not longer have those rates playing together. Same with the usage rate role designations.

I don't think its wrong to call Andrew Jones a point guard. He was recruited as one. He clearly started in that role. And then adjusted post injury. Roach is more arguable, played PG in HS. Moved to a 2 guard right away. But then the next three years he was their initiator. Had assist rates around 24%.

So i guess i will ask this question, Marquette plays Kolek, Sean Jones, and Mitchell together next year in a game is one of them no longer a point guard?

If you say, yes. I get it. I don't think you would be wrong. I just don't think someone calling them all three of them point guards would be wrong either.

[GoldenEagles03]

His 3 point % was 28%  this past season, not 48%.

I said last season, not this season.

[GoldenEagles03]

I don't think he's capable of replicating his scoring numbers moving up a level or two. I see him more in a kellan Grady role with UK. Sharpshooter

He just posted 21 points and 5 rebounds against Arizona in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament.

Arizona has some of the best bigs in America.

[panda]

He just posted 21 points and 5 rebounds against Arizona in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament.

Arizona has some of the best bigs in America.

8-20 from the field in a pace up game isn't spectacular. Purdue's vaunted defense stymied him earlier this year and he struggled against Akron as well as some of the better teams in the Horizon.

Once again, he can find a niche as a shooter on a bigger stage, but he won't replicate his scoring numbers he put up in the horizon.

[Nukem2]

I said last season, not this season.

Yah, but 42 is kinda small sample size