Next 3 games

[rocky_warrior]

In that scenario, they could be tied with MU and CRT. We have the edge against the Hall, and CRT has it on us. If Xav is the team to do it, we'dd need PC to fall behind Nova. MU vs. SJU head-to-head is TBD.

While we're at it.  I guess I'm confused by the Timbiqui Airport reference too.

[Dr. Blackheart]

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Was playing with the standings trying to visualize how we could get up to fourth. Basically, as far as CRT is concerned, we'd have to win 2 and they would have to lose out. Given that we're on a 2-4 tear, it got me to looking at who is nibbling at our heels. Even if we win 2, it isn't impossible that one of the 7-8 teams (SHU, SJU, and Xav could win out and be sitting at 11-8. In that scenario, they could be tied with MU and CRT. We have the edge against the Hall, and CRT has it on us. If Xav is the team to do it, we'dd need PC to fall behind Nova. MU vs. SJU head-to-head is TBD.

So a Wed. MSG game is not yet definitively ruled out. If we only win one more CRT can't be caught
and we're in the same situation with the others as above, but they'd only have to win 3, and if one of them does win out, we're on in NYC for Wed.

The solution is simple - win out!

Thankfully both X and Hall cannot win out;  they play each out on Saturday.  Here are their  remaining schedules:

X: @PC, vs. Hall, @ SJU, vs. Gtown. 
Hall: vs. Butler, @X, vs. Gtown, @ Creighton

X's schedule is tougher than Halls, for sure.  I guess I could see Hall possibility winning out. 

The one I am more concerned about passing us (at least for bye purposes) is St. Johns.  @ Creighton, @ Depaul, vs. X, and @MU is their remaining schedule.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them win the first three.  If we go 1-1 in the next 2 games, we could be playing SJU for the bye a week from Sat.   

Of course, as you said, MU is in control of their own destiny.  Just win the next three. 

On the flip side, I'd love to see the BE get 7 teams in.  Sh*t, maybe even 8 if SJU somehow gets to 11-8.   But X, Hall, Creighton and SJU all losing definitely helps MU in the standings.   

[Uncle Rico]

When did Critical Race Theory join the Big East?

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[BrewCity83]

CRT = Cretin Bluejays

[mileskishnish72]

Moral of story: root for Creighton to beat SJU tonight.  And then in general root against those 2 the rest of the way (not that rooting matters!). Also, if MU just takes care of business and wins the games they're supposed to win (all of them rest of the way), should wrap up the 4 seed and face Creighton Thursday in NYC.

Correct. I share your fear the SJU is the 4-0 threat. I'm also rooting tonight for Butler and find myself in the unenviable position of rooting for Prov tonight.

The sooner the 7-8 group gets losses, the better. 4th vs. 5th - no matta, it's 6th we don't want.

[mileskishnish72]

The two worse threats lost tonight, so good night for MU.

[Scoop Snoop]

The two worse threats lost tonight, so good night for MU.

And SH loses out if we tie due to our sweep of them. Yep- a good night.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Posted this in another thread, but also relevant here:

Ran through some scenarios using T-Rank's projected scores.  If the favored team wins (obviously won't happen all the way thru), final standings would be as follows:

PC 14-3
Nova 16-4
UCONN 14-5
Marquette 12-7
Creighton 11-8
SJU 10-9
Seton Hall 9-9
Xavier 9-10
Butler 6-14
Depaul 4-16
Gtown 0-20

Worst case scenario SJU wins out including beating MU at home (which isn't impossible vs. CU, @DP, vs. X, @MU), and Creighton wins more than 1 game rest of the way in their gauntlet (@SJU, @PC, vs. UCONN, vs. Hall), I believe MU slides down to the 6 seed at 11-8 losing the three way tie breaker with Creighton and SJU at 0-3.

I believe all other realistic scenarios of MU winning 2/3 we still get the bye.

Moral of story: root for Creighton to beat SJU tonight.  And then in general root against those 2 the rest of the way (not that rooting matters!). Also, if MU just takes care of business and wins the games they're supposed to win (all of them rest of the way), should wrap up the 4 seed and face Creighton Thursday in NYC.

Updated projected standings with last night's results:

PC 14-3
Nova 16-4
UCONN 14-5
Creighton 12-7
Marquette 12-7
Seton Hall 9-9
SJU 9-10
Xavier 9-10
Butler 6-14
Depaul 4-16
Gtown 0-20

[BrewCity83]

Creighton's projected 12-7 looks fragile after Nembhard's broken wrist.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Creighton's projected 12-7 looks fragile after Nembhard's broken wrist.

Perhaps.  Not an easy finish for the Bluejays.  @PC, vs. UCONN and vs. Hall.  Could definitely see 0-3.  If Hall beats them and goes 3-0 (@X, vs. Gtown, @ Creighton), that would flip Seton Hall to the 6 seed and Creighton to the 7.  Me thinks I'd rather play Creighton shorthanded than a Seton Hall team that sure hates our guts, so we should probably root for Creighton to win one of those games.

[Newsdreams]

Perhaps.  Not an easy finish for the Bluejays.  @PC, vs. UCONN and vs. Hall.  Could definitely see 0-3.  If Hall beats them and goes 3-0 (@X, vs. Gtown, @ Creighton), that would flip Seton Hall to the 6 seed and Creighton to the 7.  Me thinks I'd rather play Creighton shorthanded than a Seton Hall team that sure hates our guts, so we should probably root for Creighton to win one of those games.

Remember the rule that you can't beat a team 3 times, this we want CRT and not SH.

[wisblue]

With today's  win (for which no style points will be awarded) MU moved a big step closer to locking up the 5 seed in the BET. A win over DePaul would take care of it, even if either Seton Hall or SJU wins out.

I also think that MU can now be declared a lock for the NCAA. I was holding out until they reached a point where even losing out wouldn't be enough to drop them out. They have pretty much lowered their ceiling for an NCAA bid to a 6 or so unless they beat a couple of tourney caliber teams in the BET.

I really want MU to wrap up the BET 5 seed to remove the scenario where they would be playing a "no win situation" game against Georgetown and then have to play someone like UConn the next day.