Duane Wilson has some thoughts on Buzz

[Pakuni]

Do you know how he speaks or writes in a professional setting?  Because my guess is that the only evidence you are using for your judgement is this actual tweet.

4ever is definitely the guy who should be calling out others for the way they use the English language online, aina?
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[The Sultan]

This is partially correct. Buzz DID have alot of concerns regarding the new BEAST conference and it's viability.

However, THE reason that buzz ultimately decided to leave was when Larry Williams  greatly restricted JUCO recruitment. under Larry's new rule, JUCO's could only play ball for Marquette if they had enough credits to graduate while on the team. players like Jae Crowder were no longer "accaptable" in Larry's eyes.

as you recall Buzz feasted in the JUCO market. (Fulce, Butler, Crowder, DJO, etc.). This new rule greatly impacted the teams Buzz could construct moving forward.

Plus, Larry also put all freshman basketball players in a freshman dorm, not the basketball dorm because thats how is alma mater (Notre Dame) did it. That did not sit well with recruits as well.

And Larry Williams left and Bill Scholl didn't change the JUCO rule back - and it's still in affect today as far as I know.  Which is fine.  I understand and support that rule. 

[Galway Eagle]

This is partially correct. Buzz DID have alot of concerns regarding the new BEAST conference and it's viability.

However, THE reason that buzz ultimately decided to leave was when Larry Williams  greatly restricted JUCO recruitment. under Larry's new rule, JUCO's could only play ball for Marquette if they had enough credits to graduate while on the team. players like Jae Crowder were no longer "accaptable" in Larry's eyes.

as you recall Buzz feasted in the JUCO market. (Fulce, Butler, Crowder, DJO, etc.). This new rule greatly impacted the teams Buzz could construct moving forward.

Plus, Larry also put all freshman basketball players in a freshman dorm, not the basketball dorm because thats how is alma mater (Notre Dame) did it. That did not sit well with recruits as well.

Larry was already gone so your theory is Buzz got rid of the problem and then said "well now that that's done I'm going to get out of dodge!" One top of that he had just brought in 3 top 100 recruits and a Juco all American rated as a top 10 recruiting class in the country so your theory that it was hindering recruiting also goes out the door.

[MU82]

Do what you want. Isn't that the beauty of America? I choose to call him out.
Maybe you can't differentiate one who knows and utilizes the English language properly on a daily basis and one who doesn't know any better. Particularly, after having graduated from college, hey?

As soon as you call out your fellow old, white dentist -- who hasn't written a legible post on Scoop in years (if ever) despite holding a Marquette degree -- you have the board's permission to call out somebody else for using poor English in social media posts.

[goldeneagle91114]

Larry was already gone so your theory is Buzz got rid of the problem and then said "well now that that's done I'm going to get out of dodge!" One top of that he had just brought in 3 top 100 recruits and a Juco all American rated as a top 10 recruiting class in the country so your theory that it was hindering recruiting also goes out the door.

See Fluffy Blue Monster's comment above. The rule was never changed back. Buzz still had to follow it.

[4everwarriors]

As soon as you call out your fellow old, white dentist -- who hasn't written a legible post on Scoop in years (if ever) despite holding a Marquette degree -- you have the board's permission to call out somebody else for using poor English in social media posts.

Korrection, dat's too MU degrees, hey?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Buzz' happy was messed with long before Larry Williams arrived. Larry was a catalyst not the cause.

[Jay Bee]

"I will be taking my services to the University of Marquette"

[Galway Eagle]

"I will be taking my services to the University of Marquette"

Didn't Markus Howard say this as well? I feel like a lot of recruits say this. Went from pet peeve to funny.

[Dr. Blackheart]

And Larry Williams left and Bill Scholl didn't change the JUCO rule back - and it's still in affect today as far as I know.  Which is fine.  I understand and support that rule.

Wait. I was told by Scoop for years there was no such "rule"?

In recent good news, though, MSOC signed a JUCO (although he didn't last), WVB signed a JUCO AA and Kur was a JUCO (although he also graduated from Oklahoma). Times are a changing I hope.

[🏀]

Korrection, dat's too MU degrees, hey?

This was funny.

[MUBurrow]

I don't know what motivated Wilson tweeting about this now, but I also don't need to dive into Buzz vs administration to know that that final Buzz year was a waste of everyone's time.

[Hards Alumni]

TAMU is not having a great year so far.
They've feasted on a joke of a schedule (KenPom SOS = #291 overall, #324 nonconference).
12 of their 13 wins are against Quad 3 or Quad 4 opponents.

Still have to win the games you play.  But I take your point.

[wadesworld]

Wait. I was told by Scoop for years there was no such "rule"?

In recent good news, though, MSOC signed a JUCO (although he didn't last), WVB signed a JUCO AA and Kur was a JUCO (although he also graduated from Oklahoma). Times are a changing I hope.

There's a difference between "JUCOs need to be able to graduate by the time their eligibility expires" and "No JUCOs allowed."

[rocky_warrior]

Wait. I was told by Scoop for years there was no such "rule"?

Perhaps semantics, or my memory, but  I thought you had said something to the effect of not allowed to recruit JUCOs.  Whereas, the reality is JUCOs were fine...if they could graduate.

[Newsdreams]

Do what you want. Isn't that the beauty of America? I choose to call him out.
Maybe you can't differentiate one who knows and utilizes the English language properly on a daily basis and one who doesn't know any better. Particularly, after having graduated from college, hey?

We do not speak or write proper English in America, it is all American bastardized English.

[Billy Hoyle]

This is partially correct. Buzz DID have alot of concerns regarding the new BEAST conference and it's viability.

However, THE reason that buzz ultimately decided to leave was when Larry Williams  greatly restricted JUCO recruitment. under Larry's new rule, JUCO's could only play ball for Marquette if they had enough credits to graduate while on the team. players like Jae Crowder were no longer "accaptable" in Larry's eyes.

as you recall Buzz feasted in the JUCO market. (Fulce, Butler, Crowder, DJO, etc.). This new rule greatly impacted the teams Buzz could construct moving forward.

Plus, Larry also put all freshman basketball players in a freshman dorm, not the basketball dorm because thats how is alma mater (Notre Dame) did it. That did not sit well with recruits as well.

What's wrong with only allowing that JUCOs who come in will actually graduate? I know MU got tired of nearly every player having to take summer school just to get eligible. Summer school is supposed to get guys ahead so they can graduate on time while only taking 12 credits per semester.  Guys like Fulce and Butler would have been fine, they were qualifiers out of HS. Crean had JUCO limitations too. He had to lobby hard to get Marcus Jackson in and wasn't allowed to bring in another 2-4 (Kinsella was a 4-2-4 who originally went to Rice so he didn't count at a JUCO) until Jackson graduated.

As for the dorm thing, it was Title IX issues that was at the heart of that decision.

Oh yeah, there were those pesky off-the-court issues with the team that embarrassed MU and Buzz laughed about.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Wait. I was told by Scoop for years there was no such "rule"?

In recent good news, though, MSOC signed a JUCO (although he didn't last), WVB signed a JUCO AA and Kur was a JUCO (although he also graduated from Oklahoma). Times are a changing I hope.

There was no rule saying we couldn't recruit JUCOs which is what you previously claimed. There was/is a rule about the academic requirements needed for admission that impacted some JUCOs.

[🏀]

As for the dorm thing, it was Title IX issues that was at the heart of that decision.

Really? Can you further discuss this? MU being over cautious?

[goldeneagle91114]

What's wrong with only allowing that JUCOs who come in will actually graduate? I know MU got tired of nearly every player having to take summer school just to get eligible. Summer school is supposed to get guys ahead so they can graduate on time while only taking 12 credits per semester.  Guys like Fulce and Butler would have been fine, they were qualifiers out of HS. Crean had JUCO limitations too. He had to lobby hard to get Marcus Jackson in and wasn't allowed to bring in another 2-4 (Kinsella was a 4-2-4 who originally went to Rice so he didn't count at a JUCO) until Jackson graduated.

As for the dorm thing, it was Title IX issues that was at the heart of that decision.

Oh yeah, there were those pesky off-the-court issues with the team that embarrassed MU and Buzz laughed about.

I'm not trying to defend Buzz, just stating the reasons behind his departure.

[Galway Eagle]

We do not speak or write proper English in America, it is all American bastardized English.

Which is a bastardized version of Middle English which is a bastardized version of old English which is bastardized Anglo-Frisian which is bastardized west Germanic, which is bastardized Germanic, which is bastardized indo-european.

[Hards Alumni]

Which is a bastardized version of Middle English which is a bastardized version of old English which is bastardized Anglo-Frisian which is bastardized west Germanic, which is bastardized Germanic, which is bastardized indo-european.

You been to England?  What some of those folks speak can barely be considered English either!

[The Sultan]

Which is a bastardized version of Middle English which is a bastardized version of old English which is bastardized Anglo-Frisian which is bastardized west Germanic, which is bastardized Germanic, which is bastardized indo-european.

If you want to have fun at a linguistics meeting, have them debate the "Middle English Creole Hypothesis."

[BrewCity83]

If you want to have fun at a linguistics meeting, have them debate the "Middle English Creole Hypothesis."

That sounds like my kind of fun!!!

[Galway Eagle]

You been to England?  What some of those folks speak can barely be considered English either!

Brass tacks! They're all a bit dilly in the loaf