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tower912

They never do.    Listen to Tony Smith berate Homer for expecting consistency sometime.   
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The Sultan

I don't think people understand my point.  College basketball referees are generally pretty poor.  So my expectations aren't very high.  If they are reasonably consistent, I am good.  That's really all I ask for.

Viewed in that context, the refs today were fine. 
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Newsdreams

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 07:54:15 PM
I don't think people understand my point.  College basketball referees are generally pretty poor.  So my expectations aren't very high.  If they are reasonably consistent, I am good.  That's really all I ask for.

Viewed in that context, the refs today were fine.
Yes, they were consistently not calling fouls on one side of the court.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 20, 2022, 08:04:59 PM
Yes, they were consistently not calling fouls on one side of the court.


They missed very few calls today. Really I thought they were pretty good.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 07:54:15 PM
I don't think people understand my point.  College basketball referees are generally pretty poor.  So my expectations aren't very high.  If they are reasonably consistent, I am good.  That's really all I ask for.

Viewed in that context, the refs today were fine.

This is where your take is off the rails. First, they are highly paid professionals so there should be accountability. Two, there are three of them to cover their assigned zones on the floor so consistency in a game or from game to game should not be an issue. Third, they are (never) hardly consistent and therein lies the problem.

They did not call the game the same way on both sides of the floor. I actually had no problem with the fouls they called on MU. But, the touch fouls on the Creighton end were consistently not called. As shown on the replay, Lewis was raked across the arm on that big turnover.  Is 3 seconds even a rule violation anymore because K never left the paint. On one possession I counted to 10. More so, these refs worked continually outside their zones. And in the end, why coaches save time outs for the end when Breeding is reffing is beyond me. The dude video reviews every possession in the last two minutes with about 80% being wtf is he reviewing? Two minutes for 0.2 seconds on the clock?

The Sultan

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 20, 2022, 08:19:53 PM
This is where your take is off the rails. First, they are highly paid professionals so there should be accountability. Two, there are three of them to cover their assigned zones on the floor so consistency in a game or from game to game should not be an issue. Third, they are (never) hardly consistent and therein lies the problem.

They did not call the game the same way on both sides of the floor. I actually had no problem with the fouls they called on MU. But, the touch fouls on the Creighton end were consistently not called. As shown on the replay, Lewis was raked across the arm on that big turnover.  Is 3 seconds even a rule violation anymore because K never left the paint. On one possession I counted to 10. More so, these refs worked continually outside their zones. And in the end, why coaches save time outs for the end when Breeding is reffing is beyond me. The dude video reviews every possession in the last two minutes with about 80% being wtf is he reviewing? Two minutes for 0.2 seconds on the clock?

I disagree. They were fine.

Too much bias here.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 08:21:03 PM
I disagree. They were fine.

Too much bias here.

My takes are facts. Yours? Off as usual.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 08:08:15 PM

They missed very few calls today. Really I thought they were pretty good.
Nope they missed a heck of a lot. You be wrong, they were calling fouls inconsistently not same on both sides. I don't usually get on refs but this was not a good look for refs. That "missed" out of bounds call while looking at play tells the story.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 20, 2022, 08:22:41 PM
My takes are facts. Yours? Off as usual.

They are "facts" shaped by your bias.

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 20, 2022, 08:24:45 PM
Nope they missed a heck of a lot. You be wrong, they were calling fouls inconsistently not same on both sides. I don't usually get on refs but this was not a good look for refs. That "missed" out of bounds call while looking at play tells the story.

They were plenty consistent. Your bias is clouding your judgement.

One thing I have learned on scoop through the years is that scoopers are TERRIBLE judges of refereeing. In fact it's pretty embarrassing how bad the entire fan base is at this.
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Dr. Blackheart

Clarissa explains it all. "They suck, but at least they consistently suck." Your takes suck.

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 07:54:15 PM
I don't think people understand my point.  College basketball referees are generally pretty poor.  So my expectations aren't very high.  If they are reasonably consistent, I am good.  That's really all I ask for.

Viewed in that context, the refs today were fine.

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 08:33:52 PM
They are "facts" shaped by your bias.


They were plenty consistent. Your bias is clouding your judgement.

One thing I have learned on scoop through the years is that scoopers are TERRIBLE judges of refereeing. In fact it's pretty embarrassing how bad the entire fan base is at this.

The Sultan

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 20, 2022, 08:37:18 PM
Clarissa explains it all. "They suck, but at least they consistently suck." Your takes suck.


I'm hurt.
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 20, 2022, 08:37:18 PM
Clarissa explains it all. "They suck, but at least they consistently suck."


Yep - it's pretty disappointing when even those who defend the refs openly acknowledge that they suck.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 08:33:52 PM
They are "facts" shaped by your bias.


They were plenty consistent. Your bias is clouding your judgement.

One thing I have learned on scoop through the years is that scoopers are TERRIBLE judges of refereeing. In fact it's pretty embarrassing how bad the entire fan base is at this.
Actually you're plenty embarrassing.
Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 20, 2022, 08:43:48 PM
Actually you're plenty embarrassing.

Sums up his entire posting history perfectly.

MUfan12

Didn't like the charge on Morsell in the second half. Thought the touch foul that put CU in the bonus was soft. Creighton got a few more calls on the balance, but I don't think it made a huge difference.

I would say it affected how MU guarded, but a lot of their fouls happened because they were late and not nearly aggressive enough.

I don't like the way the college game is called, but it's a tiny issue compared to MU's total collapse defensively.

MuggsyB

Is Clarissa actually Fluffy?  I was just curious.

tower912

Yes.   Someone called him that as an insult.  He leaned into it and changed his username.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

I wasn't pleased with the officiating today. The majority of bad calls/no-calls hurt us.

That being said ...

Make a couple of layups and don't treat the basketball as if it's covered with Crisco, and we win.

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PointWarrior

I assume so. It fits his narrative "Clarissa
Explains it All"



I'm
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 20, 2022, 09:11:13 PM
Is Clarissa actually Fluffy?  I was just curious.

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on February 20, 2022, 09:35:55 PM
I wasn't pleased with the officiating today. The majority of bad calls/no-calls hurt us.

That being said ...

Make a couple of layups and don't treat the basketball as if it's covered with Crisco, and we win.

Why can't we simply grab the ball??   it has literally lost games for us. 

Viper

Quote from: PointWarrior on February 20, 2022, 10:21:33 PM
I assume so. It fits his narrative "Clarissa
Explains it All"



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Newsdreams

Quote from: Viper on February 20, 2022, 11:11:45 PM
if Clarissa brings out a 'deal with it', then for sure it's Fluffy
It is
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 20, 2022, 09:11:13 PM
Is Clarissa actually Fluffy?  I was just curious.

Techinacally Fluffy was Sultan of (insert constantly changing name)
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TallTitan34

I don't mind that we get called for fouls.  We play a style where we are going to commit fouls. 

My complaint is when our opponent has one foul over a course of 15 minutes.  Off the top of my head Georgetown, both Villanova games, both Creighton games, seemed to have our opponent go nearly the entire half with 0-2 fouls.  It's not like we are settling for jump shots either.  We seem to be drawing contact.  It just isn't called. 

Any idea on how to get more fouls called on our opponents outside of flopping?

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