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withoutbias

If the line is out of bounds, his foot never even went in bounds haha. So they screwed up that call, too. Shocking.

DrJay24

Quote from: WithoutBias on February 20, 2022, 04:21:55 PM
If the line is out of bounds, his foot never even went in bounds haha. So they screwed up that call, too. Shocking.

This officiating has been absolutely abominable and one sidedly so.

The Sultan

Reffing was fine. We lost this one by self inflicted  mistakes down the end.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

1SE

21 to 10 FTAs,  in a 1 pt game.
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mileskishnish72

SHU got a gift win last night on a phantom foul, there were some weird calls today.

GoldenEagles03

https://twitter.com/nathanmarzion/status/1495515835439460352?t=-gLqlJNTd6T91zr8jPC6TA&s=19

They called Greg for a line violation but not this one.  With the ref staring right at him.
VIOLENCE!

warriorstrack

#56
Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 04:26:51 PM
Reffing was fine. We lost this one by self inflicted  mistakes down the end.
Nope, back to ignore for you

Ok, ok yes plenty of self inflicted wounds, but yeah, no refs were hot garbage

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 04:26:51 PM
Reffing was fine. We lost this one by self inflicted  mistakes down the end.

We did lose this one by self inflicted mistakes. The reffing wasn't great. Both these can be true.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 20, 2022, 04:49:21 PM
We did lose this one by self inflicted mistakes. The reffing wasn't great. Both these can be true.

They can be. But the reffing was fine.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

1SE

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 04:57:03 PM
They can be. But the reffing was fine.

21-10 FTAs when we took roughly same number of shots in the paint
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The Sultan

Quote from: 1SE on February 20, 2022, 05:02:42 PM
21-10 FTAs when we took roughly same number of shots in the paint


That most certainly isn't an indicator of reffing quality. They were fine. Not perfect, but by and large consistent. Actually one of the better reffed games of the year IMO.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

BM1090

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 20, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
https://twitter.com/nathanmarzion/status/1495515835439460352?t=-gLqlJNTd6T91zr8jPC6TA&s=19

They called Greg for a line violation but not this one.  With the ref staring right at him.

This is really bad.

The rest of the game seemed fine.

FrennA

I mentioned this once earlier this year when I agreed with Pgheroes - we are getting hosed on calls.  I believe we've led every opponent in fouls for every conference game.  Can someone do the analysis?  This also includes garbage time.  I would like to see the foul differential for every conference game with and without garbage time.  I don't think we've ever not had more fouls than our opponent.  Has that ever happened for a complete conference schedule?  That would speak volumes.  Also, it's not like we are overly aggressive on aspects of the game like rebounding that would lend itself to fouling. 

The Sultan

Quote from: FrennA on February 20, 2022, 05:05:10 PM
I mentioned this once earlier this year when I agreed with Pgheroes - we are getting hosed on calls.  I believe we've led every opponent in fouls for every conference game.  Can someone do the analysis?  This also includes garbage time.  I would like to see the foul differential for every conference game with and without garbage time.  I don't think we've ever not had more fouls than our opponent.  Has that ever happened for a complete conference schedule?  That would speak volumes.  Also, it's not like we are overly aggressive on aspects of the game like rebounding that would lend itself to fouling. 

We reach A LOT. Our bigs are foul prone because they are weak. Overall we are very aggressive on the perimeter and always pick up a couple cheap ones a half.
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MUDPT

They had fouls to give at the end of both halves and got super aggressive defensively because of it. They got two turnovers out of it.

Galway Eagle

#66
Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 05:04:13 PM

That most certainly isn't an indicator of reffing quality. They were fine. Not perfect, but by and large consistent. Actually one of the better reffed games of the year IMO.

Contrary to most here I agree we reach way too much and pull up midrange shots don't draw fouls that being said on morsells turnover the player who's name I can't pronounce certainly bodied him up which is an automatic foul (they called it on osa earlier), it's debatable whether Greg stepped over, and you haven't responded to the linked image of Creighton clearly being OOB on a scoring play. On their end Lewis did not adequately draw a foul on the missed dunk.

I agree the fouls discrepancy isn't an indicator of good or bad reffing but the refs were not good in crunch time today.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

mugrad_89

Just home from the game and yes the officiating was garbage.  Marquette was getting called pretty much every time their was defensive contact,  but the same was not true on the other end.  I don't think Creighton was called for 10 fouls the entire game, which is ridiculous.

panda

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 20, 2022, 05:31:17 PM
Contrary to most here I agree we reach way too much and pull up midrange shots don't draw fouls that being said on morsells turnover the player who's name I can't pronounce certainly bodied him up which is an automatic foul (they called it on osa earlier), it's debatable whether Greg stepped over, and you haven't responded to the linked image of Creighton clearly being OOB on a scoring play. On their end Lewis did not adequately draw a foul on the missed dunk.

I agree the fouls discrepancy isn't an indicator of good or bad reffing but the refs were not good in crunch time today.

I do find it comical seeing people constantly complain about foul disparity. We're an aggressive defensive team and a jump shooting offensive team.

mugrad_89

Quote from: panda on February 20, 2022, 05:43:43 PM
I do find it comical seeing people constantly complain about foul disparity. We're an aggressive defensive team and a jump shooting offensive team.

In general yes, but today we were going to the rim through contact plenty of times with no call.

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 20, 2022, 05:31:17 PM
Contrary to most here I agree we reach way too much and pull up midrange shots don't draw fouls that being said on morsells turnover the player who's name I can't pronounce certainly bodied him up which is an automatic foul (they called it on osa earlier), it's debatable whether Greg stepped over, and you haven't responded to the linked image of Creighton clearly being OOB on a scoring play. On their end Lewis did not adequately draw a foul on the missed dunk.

I agree the fouls discrepancy isn't an indicator of good or bad reffing but the refs were not good in crunch time today.

What do you want me to respond to. He stepped out of bounds and the tweet author said that they scored on the play. If true, it's a bad call. Bad calls happen.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 06:03:37 PM
What do you want me to respond to. He stepped out of bounds and the tweet author said that they scored on the play. If true, it's a bad call. Bad calls happen.

This is true and when they do they are no longer fine as you state
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 20, 2022, 07:42:43 PM
This is true and when they do they are no longer fine as you state


I don't expect perfection.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 07:44:07 PM

I don't expect perfection.

No do I but I do expect consistency they weren't doing that.
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