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JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on October 05, 2022, 12:33:11 PM
I'm neither a Yankee fan nor the NE-centric media/ESPN. And I neither wanted to see every at bat nor yawned after the record was broken.

It was an outstanding, historic feat by an All-Star ballplayer. I thought it was cool that he did it, and I enjoyed watching the replays of it. He seems to be a good guy.

Is a person allowed to have that opinion, or do we only have extremes on Judge's accomplishment?

I don't think that's any different than what I expressed.  The yawn was a dramatic counter to ESPN breathlessly showing every at bat or having some sort of Judge watch going.

There are people who really enjoy baseball who thought it was cool, and thats that.  Which I think is in stark contrast to the other camp I mentioned that seem to be treating it in the same way the original 61 breaking was.  To Hank Aaron breaking Ruth's record.  To Bonds getting 73 and breaking Aaron's record.  I think its none of that.

I'm truly intrigued to see how it would have been handled if it was Salvador Perez going for 62 in KC, or even Trout going for 62 in LA.

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on October 05, 2022, 12:33:11 PM
It was an outstanding, historic feat by an All-Star ballplayer.

Hitting the seventh most home runs in a season is "historic?"
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on October 05, 2022, 12:44:08 PM
I don't think that's any different than what I expressed.  The yawn was a dramatic counter to ESPN breathlessly showing every at bat or having some sort of Judge watch going.

There are people who really enjoy baseball who thought it was cool, and thats that.  Which I think is in stark contrast to the other camp I mentioned that seem to be treating it in the same way the original 61 breaking was.  To Hank Aaron breaking Ruth's record.  To Bonds getting 73 and breaking Aaron's record.  I think its none of that.

I'm truly intrigued to see how it would have been handled if it was Salvador Perez going for 62 in KC, or even Trout going for 62 in LA.

On your latter line, we'll probably never know.

Speaking only for myself, I was more interested in Judge getting to 62 than I was in Bonds doing anything, because I knew Bonds was a fraud. Although I had suspicions about McGwire and Sosa, we simply were not as in the know in 1998, and I'll admit I thought that was an incredible show -- and it was feted nationally, even though neither was a Yankee.

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 05, 2022, 01:07:21 PM
Hitting the seventh most home runs in a season is "historic?"

Yes. You're allowed to disagree and minimize the achievement. It's nice that we all can opine freely.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUBurrow

Not able to watch or listen, but I just noticed that Corbin Burnes was perfect through 3 today on 40 pitches when he was pulled. I totally get not running him out there very long - hell, woulda made sense to scratch him.  But I'm kind of surprised that at that point, he didn't just pitch until the perfect game got spoiled.

cheebs09

Quote from: MUBurrow on October 05, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Not able to watch or listen, but I just noticed that Corbin Burnes was perfect through 3 today on 40 pitches when he was pulled. I totally get not running him out there very long - hell, woulda made sense to scratch him.  But I'm kind of surprised that at that point, he didn't just pitch until the perfect game got spoiled.

I wonder if he had a contract incentive he was looking to hit and both sides agreed to pull him once that was met. Especially with the odds of a perfect game being a long shot only through 3 innings.

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

Billy Hoyle

#1556
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 05, 2022, 01:07:21 PM
Hitting the seventh most home runs in a season is "historic?"

7th most (and only the 9th time 60 was eclipsed) over the entire history of the AL and NL, spanning over 140 years, is historic. And doing so clean and being a good dude, not a surly a-hole whose teammates even disliked him like Bonds.

Kind of an amazing stat that a Yankees player has owned the AL HR record for the last 102 years. The last non-Yankee to hold the AL home record was Babe Ruth with the Red Sox in 1919.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

PGsHeroes32

Trout with an absolute bomb today to get to 40.

Longest non Coors Park homer of the year.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

muwarrior69

#1558
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 05, 2022, 08:41:01 AM
I know you are kidding, but the Brewers do alright. Top half of the league in average attendance.

My freshman year at MU, fall '65, the Brave's left Milwaukee; the whole town not to mention Wisconsin was livid. I could empathize with all the fans as I knew exactly how they all felt when the Dodgers and Giants left New York in '57. My room mate was from Fresno and a Dodger fan. The last 3 games played at County Stadium were against the Dodgers and the Braves still had a shot at the pennant only one game back. We paid 3 bucks for seats right behind the Dodger dug out. Only a few thousand in the stands all cheering for the Dodgers; Dodgers swept the series. My room mate got two signed baseballs, one by Koufax, and the other by Drysdale and they were glad to do it. Dodgers went on to beat the Twins in the WS that year.

One of my MU college year highlights.

shoothoops

That's how the sports world and sports media works. It isn't Judge's fault that his AL home run chase was so extensively covered by not only national sports media, but national morning, afternoon, evening news outlets etc....New York has a lot of people and a lot of fans there and elsewhere.

Two days ago Pujols hit his 703rd home run, and in the process surpasses Babe Ruth for 2nd all time in RBI's. Obviously national coverage would have been much more extensive if he played in New York.

https://twitter.com/cardinals/status/1577089125223919616?s=21&t=ThT3ygJ2iYqcQLl528vfcA

Or even his last regular season game:


Uncle Rico

Quote from: shoothoops on October 06, 2022, 09:34:45 AM
That's how the sports world and sports media works. It isn't Judge's fault that his AL home run chase was so extensively covered by not only national sports media, but national morning, afternoon, evening news outlets etc....New York has a lot of people and a lot of fans there and elsewhere.

Two days ago Pujols hit his 703rd home run, and in the process surpasses Babe Ruth for 2nd all time in RBI's. Obviously national coverage would have been much more extensive if he played in New York.

https://twitter.com/cardinals/status/1577089125223919616?s=21&t=ThT3ygJ2iYqcQLl528vfcA

Or even his last regular season game:

And he wasn't a roider and played for an organization known for cheating
Guster is for Lovers

jficke13

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 05, 2022, 04:49:45 PM
I wonder if he had a contract incentive he was looking to hit and both sides agreed to pull him once that was met. Especially with the odds of a perfect game being a long shot only through 3 innings.

Did he need to lock in the NL lead for Ks?

shoothoops

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2022, 09:37:56 AM
And he wasn't a roider and played for an organization known for cheating

I know it hurts. But I think next year could be the year for the Brewers. #ThisIsMyCrew


https://twitter.com/cardinals/status/1574977635490230279?s=21&t=ThT3ygJ2iYqcQLl528vfcA

4everwarriors

Sure, if they retool the bullpen, dump the dead weight on the roster, and spend some cash, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

withoutbias

Their year for...what, exactly?  They won the NLC last year.  Albert got his roids back and the rest is history.  Congrats.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: shoothoops on October 06, 2022, 09:49:39 AM
I know it hurts. But I think next year could be the year for the Brewers. #ThisIsMyCrew


https://twitter.com/cardinals/status/1574977635490230279?s=21&t=ThT3ygJ2iYqcQLl528vfcA

Sports losses only hurt for weak-minded fools who aren't actively participating.  It's a fact they're not in the playoffs like it's a fact the Cardinals have a history of cheating
Guster is for Lovers

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 05, 2022, 06:22:20 PM
Kind of an amazing stat that a Yankees player has owned the AL HR record for the last 102 years. The last non-Yankee to hold the AL home record was Babe Ruth with the Red Sox in 1919.

no kidding, didn't the AL juice when Bonds etc. did?

shoothoops

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2022, 10:19:34 AM
Sports losses only hurt for weak-minded fools who aren't actively participating.  It's a fact they're not in the playoffs like it's a fact the Cardinals have a history of cheating

I don't think there is a need to label yourself a weak minded fool. There's always next year.

https://twitter.com/Cardinals/status/1575003680012587008?t=NqDKri9y8BmeL1IMBYC3Kg&s=19


Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 05, 2022, 04:49:45 PM
I wonder if he had a contract incentive he was looking to hit and both sides agreed to pull him once that was met. Especially with the odds of a perfect game being a long shot only through 3 innings.

from jsonline: Starter Corbin Burnes entered Wednesday's matinee against the Arizona Diamondbacks at American Family Field needing to pitch only one inning to reach the coveted 200-inning mark for the first time in his career.

tower912

If the Steven Vogt story doesn't give you a head cold, than you are a cold hearted bastard.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Silent Verbal

Quote from: tower912 on October 06, 2022, 06:30:14 PM
If the Steven Vogt story doesn't give you a head cold, than you are a cold hearted bastard.

He'll be managing a big league team within the next 5-10 years.

Silent Verbal

Does Christian Yelich have the worst contract in baseball right now?  I'd say maybe Strasburg's or Rendon's are worse, but the Nats and Angels can afford to have a player on a long, bad contract while still pursuing other high-priced free agents.  The Brewers, not so much.  Yelich will be an albatross for years.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Silent Verbal on October 06, 2022, 08:33:45 PM
Does Christian Yelich have the worst contract in baseball right now?  I'd say maybe Strasburg's or Rendon's are worse, but the Nats and Angels can afford to have a player on a long, bad contract while still pursuing other high-priced free agents.  The Brewers, not so much.  Yelich will be an albatross for years.

He's not even top 10 worst. Strasburg, Miggy, Cano, Jackie Bradley Jr, Bumgarner, David Price. That's just off the top of my head. Hell, arent the cubs still paying Heyward? Yeli lost his power but he's still an above average starter.
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TAMU

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MU82

#1574
Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 06, 2022, 09:08:44 PM
He's not even top 10 worst. Strasburg, Miggy, Cano, Jackie Bradley Jr, Bumgarner, David Price. That's just off the top of my head. Hell, arent the cubs still paying Heyward? Yeli lost his power but he's still an above average starter.

The Athletic's Jayson Stark just named Javy Baez the 2022 LVP. Baez still has something like $110 million left on his contract.

But that's a good contract compared to the $158 million Kris Bryant has left on his deal.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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