2022 MLB Thread

[MuggsyB]

Judge is the AL home run king

Assuming he's clean isn't he MLB's home run king? 

[The Sultan]

Assuming he's clean isn't he MLB's home run king? 

Nope.  Bonds' record is still intact.

[Hards Alumni]

Assuming he's clean isn't he MLB's home run king?

I don't recall Barry Bonds failing a test that year.

[MuggsyB]

I guess I'm out of the loop.  So Bonds will never be in the Hall of Fame because of steroids but is still recognized as having the HR record?  Because he didn't fail a test thar season?  How it plausible he wasn't juicing when he had his best season?  Is he also recognized as the all-time record holder and not Mr.  Aaron?  Freaking weird. 

[The Sultan]

I guess I'm out of the loop.  So Bonds will never be in the Hall of Fame because of steroids but is still recognized as having the HR record?  Because he didn't fail a test thar season?  How it plausible he wasn't juicing when he had his best season?  Is he also recognized as the all-time record holder and not Mr.  Aaron?  Freaking weird. 

You have captured the conundrum. 

[PGsHeroes32]

I guess I'm out of the loop.  So Bonds will never be in the Hall of Fame because of steroids but is still recognized as having the HR record?  Because he didn't fail a test thar season?  How it plausible he wasn't juicing when he had his best season?  Is he also recognized as the all-time record holder and not Mr.  Aaron?  Freaking weird.

Hes not in the Hall because people are given votes and can choose not to vote for him.

Theres no vote on highest homer totals. Hes got the most.

Also, should be in the Hall.

[MuggsyB]

Hes not in the Hall because people are given votes and can choose not to vote for him.

Theres no vote on highest homer totals. Hes got the most.

Also, should be in the Hall.

He was easily a Hall of Famer without the steroids.  However, the significance of Aaron's record in particular is arguably the greatest in the history of sports.  The fact that Selig allowed that crap, and was supposedly "a good friend" of Hank Aaron, is off the charts disgraceful.  Mr. Aaron was also a total class act.  I'm sorry he had to deal with such garbage both with his chase for the record and after he earned the HR title. 

[wadesworld]

Looking forward to celebrating someone breaking Drew Brees NFC passing touchdown record, but falling short of Peyton Manning's NFL record.

Right. It's so lame.

[The Sultan]

He was easily a Hall of Famer without the steroids.  However, the significance of Aaron's record in particular is arguably the greatest in the history of sports.  The fact that Selig allowed that crap, and was supposedly "a good friend" of Hank Aaron, is off the charts disgraceful.  Mr. Aaron was also a total class act.  I'm sorry he had to deal with such garbage both with his chase for the record and after he earned the HR title. 

So what was Selig supposed to do? Just declare that he didn't hit those home runs?

[MU82]

Congrats to Judge. Seems like a class act and a good teammate, not to mention a heck of a ballplayer.

[cheebs09]

So what was Selig supposed to do? Just declare that he didn't hit those home runs?

It works well for college sports!

[MuggsyB]

So what was Selig supposed to do? Just declare that he didn't hit those home runs?

There are a lot of things he could have done. 

[Hards Alumni]

I guess I'm out of the loop.  So Bonds will never be in the Hall of Fame because of steroids but is still recognized as having the HR record?  Because he didn't fail a test thar season?  How it plausible he wasn't juicing when he had his best season?  Is he also recognized as the all-time record holder and not Mr.  Aaron?  Freaking weird.

You ever hear of a guy named Pete Rose?

[MuggsyB]

You ever hear of a guy named Pete Rose?

Yes.

Different situation than steroids but he rightly isn't in the HOF.  But there's no evidence he physically cheated to accumulate his hits. 

[The Sultan]

There are a lot of things he could have done. 

Such as???

[tower912]

Selig. could have just invalidated the records by thinking about it.

[muwarrior69]

Given the number of fans in the stands, I don't think many Brewers fans care all that much if they make the playoffs.

Brewers to Oakland once the A's go to Vegas.

[The Sultan]

Brewers to Oakland once the A's go to Vegas.

I know you are kidding, but the Brewers do alright. Top half of the league in average attendance.

[MU82]

Selig. could have just invalidated the records by thinking about it.

My morning laugh. Thanks, tower.

[MU82]

I get a kick out of those who tsk-tsk when somebody catches a historic baseball and then refuses to hand it over without being compensated.

A person is supposed to turn down a life-changing payday "just because"? Is Aaron Judge gonna turn down generational wealth just to be "a good guy"? Do the Yankees ever turn down an opportunity to gouge their fans?

[PGsHeroes32]

I get a kick out of those who tsk-tsk when somebody catches a historic baseball and then refuses to hand it over without being compensated.

A person is supposed to turn down a life-changing payday "just because"? Is Aaron Judge gonna turn down generational wealth just to be "a good guy"? Do the Yankees ever turn down an opportunity to gouge their fans?

Yeah I mean its something you just gotta do. Cant worry about being a dick. Its a fans right to the ball and the chance to have their life changed.

Does sound like the guy who caught Judges is already loaded though.

[The Sultan]

If I catch a random HR, I'm giving to the kid next to me.

If I catch Aaron Judge's HR yesterday, I'm selling that thing within a week.

[MU82]

Yeah I mean its something you just gotta do. Cant worry about being a dick. Its a fans right to the ball and the chance to have their life changed.

Does sound like the guy who caught Judges is already loaded though.

Maybe he'll give much of it to great charities or otherwise use it to help others. Or maybe not. It's his call.

If I catch a random HR, I'm giving to the kid next to me.

If I catch Aaron Judge's HR yesterday, I'm selling that thing within a week.

Yessir.

[JWags85]

Yankees fans and NE-centric media/ESPN:

"THIS IS INCREDIBLE.  LETS SHOW EVERY AT BAT.  JUDGE THE AL HR KING!!!  WHAT A STORY!!"

The rest of the country:

(yawn)  Good for Judge, great season

[MU82]

Yankees fans and NE-centric media/ESPN:

"THIS IS INCREDIBLE.  LETS SHOW EVERY AT BAT.  JUDGE THE AL HR KING!!!  WHAT A STORY!!"

The rest of the country:

(yawn)  Good for Judge, great season

I'm neither a Yankee fan nor the NE-centric media/ESPN. And I neither wanted to see every at bat nor yawned after the record was broken.

It was an outstanding, historic feat by an All-Star ballplayer. I thought it was cool that he did it, and I enjoyed watching the replays of it. He seems to be a good guy.

Is a person allowed to have that opinion, or do we only have extremes on Judge's accomplishment?