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Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 01, 2022, 12:02:27 PM
Love this trade.

Same.
Having Pollock potentially under control for two years at $10 million each is nice.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Essentially you traded Madrigal for Pollock.

Rick Hahn is great. It's really a shame that Reinsdorf went over his head to hire LaRussa

DegenerateDish

I'm glad the White Sox RF talk is finally over, it's just been an island of misfit toys for a while. I don't expect Pollock to be a superstar, but if he can maintain 3.0 WAR, I'm in.

The Kimbrel gamble was worth the chance they took, he just did not work out, and it happens. The Sox will save a little bit of money too, and have a very reasonable option on Pollock for 2023.

As far as Crochet, I always thought it was "when" never "if" he was going to need Tommy John. I think most Sox fans thought for sure when he walked off the mound in Oakland in the 2020 playoffs, that was going to be the moment. Certainly will miss him this season, but they do have great bullpen depth, and a bunch of guys in the minors who are ready.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2022, 12:10:16 PM
Same.
Having Pollock potentially under control for two years at $10 million each is nice.

I also love the trade but isn't 2023 a player's option?

Pakuni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 01, 2022, 10:46:08 PM
I also love the trade but isn't 2023 a player's option?

Yes. That's why I said potentially under control.
I imagine it would take a really outstanding showing out of Pollock this year to beat $10 million on the open market as a 35-year-old outfielder in 2023. Right now, that $10 million makes him the 24th highest paid outfielder in MLB next year.
But if it happens, it's good news for the 2022 White Sox.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2022, 10:56:05 AM
Yes. That's why I said potentially under control.
I imagine it would take a really outstanding showing out of Pollock this year to beat $10 million on the open market as a 35-year-old outfielder in 2023. Right now, that $10 million makes him the 24th highest paid outfielder in MLB next year.
But if it happens, it's good news for the 2022 White Sox.

The buyout is $5 million though so he'd only need to find a 1 yr $6 million deal to come out ahead. Either way the money is at worst $1 million cheaper than Kimbrel and fills a need so still a good deal. If he has a solid AJ Pollock-type season I think he and the Sox would figure out a way to run it back next year.

Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

BrewCity83

The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

HouWarrior

Guessin'...Astros Win the AL West, again. The As dismantled/dropped back, Rangers got better and Angels...will be the Angels. Seattle will be hard to call...but clearly near the top w/us.

Going into opening days there a just a few Astro story lines;;

Will Justin Verlander return from TJohn surgery to dominance?
Not likely as history shows it takes more time...maybe he does late in the year

Will Lance McCullers return from the gruesome forearm injury suffered in the ALCS?
Well yes but dont rush...All Star time is what we should hope for

Will R SSJeremy Pena coming up maybe a year early perform ok and have Houston thinking it will be survivable to let Correa go for the big bucks/ Twins ?
Maybe...Pena's 2022 spring line is : .389/.421/.778 through 19 plate appearances. He slashed .287/.346/.598 with 10 homers and five steals in just 30 Triple-A games last year. First time through the league will tell a lot.

The rest of last years WSeries team returns...Tucker will be one to watch, as he and Yordan Alvarez are heading into their big$$ contract years

(also Why Correa couldve never gotten $35mil/Year here... we needed it for these two, in the longer run)
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Uncle Rico

The last season of Yadier Molina begins.  I hope you all appreciate what real leadership looks like.

Would you trade him for Mike Trout?
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

dgies9156

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2022, 08:13:49 AM
The last season of Yadier Molina begins.  I hope you all appreciate what real leadership looks like.

Would you trade him for Mike Trout?

Oh heck no!

Yadi is an institution. Kinda like the Arch, toasted ravioli or industry leaving town. Plus, when you have Goldschmidt and Nolan, we're fine.

The Cardinals will be good this year. How good depends on when Flaherty is back and how well the bullpen holds up. Also would be nice to get more from the middle infield.

I like this team  8-) !

shoothoops

#312
#23 Ted Simmons gets added to the Hall of Fame wall.





BrewCity83

Prediction:  Brewers will win 100 games this year.

Best pitching staff in the majors, looks like a better offensive team than last year's 95 win season, and the division looks to be weaker (Reds, Cubs and Pirates don't look to be very competitive).   
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 07, 2022, 10:52:54 AM
Prediction:  Brewers will win 100 games this year.

Best pitching staff in the majors, looks like a better offensive team than last year's 95 win season, and the division looks to be weaker (Reds, Cubs and Pirates don't look to be very competitive).

I think low 90s, unless Yelich can regain his bat.

CreightonWarrior

So much for Corbin starting the season the way he did last year.

CTWarrior

Quote from: shoothoops on April 07, 2022, 10:13:15 AM
#23 Ted Simmons gets added to the Hall of Fame wall.
The most amazing thing about that picture to me is that Rogers Hornsby had a stint with the Cards as late as 1933, but apparently did not wear a number with them.  Baseball Reference appears to indicate that he never wore a number with anybody.  I thought by the 30s everyone wore numbers.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 07, 2022, 01:45:15 PM
The most amazing thing about that picture to me is that Rogers Hornsby had a stint with the Cards as late as 1933, but apparently did not wear a number with them.  Baseball Reference appears to indicate that he never wore a number with anybody.  I thought by the 30s everyone wore numbers.

I think the Yankees were the first to do it.  Have to imagine the Cardinals were the last to do it to honor the traditions of the game
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

shoothoops

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 07, 2022, 01:45:15 PM
The most amazing thing about that picture to me is that Rogers Hornsby had a stint with the Cards as late as 1933, but apparently did not wear a number with them.  Baseball Reference appears to indicate that he never wore a number with anybody.  I thought by the 30s everyone wore numbers.

You may find this interesting about Hornsby, his number(s), MLB etc...

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2020/5/13/21257121/what-uniform-number-did-rogers-hornsby-wear

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2022, 01:54:55 PM
I think the Yankees were the first to do it.  Have to imagine the Cardinals were the last to do it to honor the traditions of the game

😂😂😂

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 07, 2022, 01:45:15 PM
The most amazing thing about that picture to me is that Rogers Hornsby had a stint with the Cards as late as 1933, but apparently did not wear a number with them.  Baseball Reference appears to indicate that he never wore a number with anybody.  I thought by the 30s everyone wore numbers.

SL - Is that Roman numerals?

ZiggysFryBoy

Yelich should be batting 7th or 8th.

MUfan12

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 07, 2022, 04:48:14 PM
Yelich should be batting 7th or 8th.

Yep. There's a season and a half worth of evidence now. It's just Counsell being stubborn.

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 07, 2022, 04:48:14 PM
Yelich should be batting 7th or 8th.
It's only 1 game but man does that swing look bad.

Vander Blue Man Group

Brewers are pretenders.   ;)

In all seriousness, they're going to need to add a bat or two.  They should win a terrible NL Central on the strength of their pitching but that lineup does not strike fear into anyone.