Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[Shooter McGavin]

My BADger friends never shut up about that.  They don't even count it as a loss.

MSU has erased the L from their record because they lost to Illinois without Kofi playing. 

[brewcity77]

Has anyone noticed that every time someone brings up our UofI win people say "yeah but there was no Kofi" but I haven't seen the same with Providence's win over Bucky & Johnny Davis

Listen to Jeff Goodman (well...maybe not, but he talks about it a lot). They beat Bucky without Johnny Davis, UConn without Adama Sanogo, and Seton Hall without Obiagu. In terms of resume luck, Providence has a horseshoe up their ass.

[JakeBarnes]

Listen to Jeff Goodman (well...maybe not, but he talks about it a lot). They beat Bucky without Johnny Davis, UConn without Adama Sanogo, and Seton Hall without Obiagu. In terms of resume luck, Providence has a horseshoe up their ass.

That was what we were talking about when they came to Milwaukee. They were lucky and winning tight games while the metrics didn't show a lot of confidence in the results. I do think they are very beatable at the Dunk not only because we match up withthem well, but due to the regression on record I expect to see. Nova, UConn, and X are going to be the teams we will compete with for top slot (or top 3 slots) in the Big East.

[MU82]

I tend to believe The Provi is overrated but will withhold full judgment until after we crush them again on Saturday.

[BM1090]

Listen to Jeff Goodman (well...maybe not, but he talks about it a lot). They beat Bucky without Johnny Davis, UConn without Adama Sanogo, and Seton Hall without Obiagu. In terms of resume luck, Providence has a horseshoe up their ass.

I haven't done a deep dive on every team but I think it's just going to be more common in the COVID era. We beat ILL without Kofi, KSU without Pack, Georgetown without Carey, Providence without Reeves. We almost certainly lose the first two if those guys play, and almost certainly win the latter two regardless.

We also were missing Morsell against UCONN and Kam against Creighton, and either of them playing may have flipped those results. Except in incredibly extreme cases I'd bet the committee doesn't bother to look at which guys missed certain games.

[PGsHeroes32]

I haven't done a deep dive on every team but I think it's just going to be more common in the COVID era. We beat ILL without Kofi, KSU without Pack, Georgetown without Carey, Providence without Reeves. We almost certainly lose the first two if those guys play, and almost certainly win the latter two regardless.

We also were missing Morsell against UCONN and Kam against Creighton, and either of them playing may have flipped those results. Except in incredibly extreme cases I'd bet the committee doesn't bother to look at which guys missed certain games.

Committee will never hold it against the winning team. Like our win vs Illinois is considered the same regardless.

If a team loses a handful of games with a stud player out, they will consider that for that team though.

[Uncle Rico]

 

Listen to Jeff Goodman (well...maybe not, but he talks about it a lot). They beat Bucky without Johnny Davis, UConn without Adama Sanogo, and Seton Hall without Obiagu. In terms of resume luck, Providence has a horseshoe up their ass.

I will not listen to Goodman

[MU82]

I will not listen to Goodman

Why not? He could play the jazz clarinet like the cat's pajamas, daddy!

[PGsHeroes32]

ESPN BPI still has us outside the top 50. We did move from 57 with the win to 51.

SHU at 37.


Excellent formula

[Shooter McGavin]

ESPN BPI still has us outside the top 50. We did move from 57 with the win to 51.

SHU at 37.


Excellent formula

I don't even look at BPI.  Are all the ACC teams in the the top 20?

[PGsHeroes32]

I don't even look at BPI.  Are all the ACC teams in the the top 20?

5 ACC in front of us.

INcluding .500 Virginia Tech. Clemson. UNC who allows like 150 pts a game.

[PGsHeroes32]

Really tough to move up in the NET. We stay at 31

Not hard to fall though. SHU goes from 36 to 44. No chance of that home win ever being Q1 again.

WVU also just continues to lose and lose badly. No longer Q1 and unlikely they ever get back.

[Shooter McGavin]

5 ACC in front of us.

INcluding .500 Virginia Tech. Clemson. UNC who allows like 150 pts a game.

So ESPN and their formula are not to be taken remotely seriously.

[CrowdOf5]

Really tough to move up in the NET. We stay at 31

Not hard to fall though. SHU goes from 36 to 44. No chance of that home win ever being Q1 again.

WVU also just continues to lose and lose badly. No longer Q1 and unlikely they ever get back.

Providence made a nice jump from 41 to 33. A little surprised we didn't move up a couple spots.

[DoctorV]

Oof yea really brutal night for our opponents.

Many of our key wins and losses aren't aging too great...

- St Bonnies lost at George Mason by 9, they were favored. 11-5 now.
- WVU lost at home to Oklahoma by 10, they were favored. 13-6 now.
- Ole Miss as slight home dogs lost by 10 to Arkansas. 10-10 now.
- SIUe is 7-12 lost 4 straight
- New Hampshire is 8-7
- Northern Ill is 5-11
- Jackson St is 4-14
- K St is 10-9 with a recent blowout loss @ Baylor

Illinois, Wisconsin, and UCLA are holding their own and having good seasons.

It's a very good thing Marquette has taken matters into its own hands, the best way to do things.
Keep that up and everything else won't matta, but it would be nice for some of these other dudes to get they head outta their you know what

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Providence made a nice jump from 41 to 33. A little surprised we didn't move up a couple spots.

Keep in mind that 31 is just our NET ranking, not the actual score. No one but the keepers of the NET secret sauce know what our NET score is. So we likely did move up, but there may have been a bigger gap between us and #30 so the ranking didn't change.

We were also likely impacted by:
Xavier losing to Providence (hurts our NET twice while only helping it once, will change after Saturday)
Creighton getting blown out by crappy Butler (will eventually even out once we play Butler twice)
New Hampshire only beating #354 Maine by 12 at home
St. Bonaventure getting beat by 9 by #100 George Mason
Ole Miss getting beat by 9 at home by Arkansas
West Virginia getting beat by double digits by Oklahoma at home

Basically, besides us winning (which is by far the most important thing) every other game went against us from an NET standpoint.

[Goose]

I follow my eye test and if there are 15 teams better than us at the moment, I hope we get to face them down the road. This team can and will compete against anyone they will play the remainder of the year. I said in April, there was not a BE coach happy to see Shaka roll into MKE and they were right in not liking the hire. Pretty soon the rest of the country will see the Shaka system at work.

[Shooter McGavin]

I follow my eye test and if there are 15 teams better than us at the moment, I hope we get to face them down the road. This team can and will compete against anyone they will play the remainder of the year. I said in April, there was not a BE coach happy to see Shaka roll into MKE and they were right in not liking the hire. Pretty soon the rest of the country will see the Shaka system at work.

Can we play ND this year?  We would blow their doors off!

[tower912]

Oof yea really brutal night for our opponents.

Many of our key wins and losses aren't aging too great...

- St Bonnies lost at George Mason by 9, they were favored. 11-5 now.
- WVU lost at home to Oklahoma by 10, they were favored. 13-6 now.
- Ole Miss as slight home dogs lost by 10 to Arkansas. 10-10 now.
- SIUe is 7-12 lost 4 straight
- New Hampshire is 8-7
- Northern Ill is 5-11
- Jackson St is 4-14
- K St is 10-9 with a recent blowout loss @ Baylor

Illinois, Wisconsin, and UCLA are holding their own and having good seasons.

It's a very good thing Marquette has taken matters into its own hands, the best way to do things.
Keep that up and everything else won't matta, but it would be nice for some of these other dudes to get they head outta their you know what

MU is taking care of its own business right now.    Those records don't mean a think if MU continues to play well.    Other than shading of seeding.     It matters if MU is on the bubble.   

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 26,2022
New Old
5   5   Villanova   
17   17   UConn   
21   18   Xavier   
31   31   Marquette   
33   41   Providence   
44   36   Seton Hall   
67   50   Creighton   
91   92   St. John's
109   109   DePaul   
134   155   Butler   
202   203   Georgetown   
January 26th Team Sheets. Marquette is 32
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/net-teamsheets

[Carl]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-power-rankings-kansas-in-top-five-ucla-back-in-top-10-providence-and-marquette-surging/

#9 in the power rankings! Let's keep the party rolling!!

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

We're up to 17 in the RPI guys

[PGsHeroes32]

For 1 day at least, we are now a Q1 oppenent no matter where a team plays us

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 27,2022
New Old
5   5   Villanova   
17   17   UConn   
21   21   Xavier   
30   31   Marquette   
34   33   Providence   
44   44   Seton Hall   
67   67   Creighton   
92   91   St. John's
109   109   DePaul   
133   134   Butler   
203   202   Georgetown
January 27 Teams Sheets . Marquette is 30
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/net-teamsheets

[Pepe Sylvia]

Hey, top 30! just gave a lot of teams a q1 loss instead of q2 lol.