Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?

[Pakuni]

Hence why I said "bad teams." WCC will be no better or worse than in years past.

O/U 1.5 losses for the Zags in conference would be an interesting prop. I'd take the under.

I might take the under for total losses, pre-tournament.
Texas is a pretty good team and the Zags toyed with them last night. And Holmgren and Sallis are only going to get better as the season progresses.

[JakeBarnes]

They could not see past their nose. Replaced Wojo with another coach who could not win an NCAA game the last 6 years with more NBA draft picks.

Whoever had less than 2 games in the "people turning on Shaka pool" you win.

This board is hilarious sometimes. Can we just rename this thread to the "tinfoil hat pt2" thread?

[Uncle Rico]

Looking at their conference results from the last four years, there is nothing wonky about them. They beat teams by at least 10 points in what seems like 98% of games.

It's really unbelievable when you peel back the onion.

Right, this year the WCC is much better

[rocky_warrior]

Whoever had less than 2 games in the "people turning on Shaka pool" you win.

This board is hilarious sometimes. Can we just rename this thread to the "tinfoil hat pt2" thread?

You're second part is probably more accurate.  These people were against Shaka from the beginning.  They haven't turned.  Now, I also think he can sway some of them by getting decent wins in the upcoming years. 

It's also difficult for Moser "fans" (I was not one), to see him potentially having OU outperform MU this year.

[panda]

Right, this year the WCC is much better

Meh. More of the same. We'll see

[panda]

Dramatic would be a mini meltdown over an expression.

And if by top team, you mean top 15. Yeah I'd bet on that.

Top 10? Better hope the Vandy kid is back fast.

They are light years behind Michigan, Gonzaga, Nova, UCLA and Kansas at the very least.

Mini meltdown? Drama queen like you write about.

Last night didn't change my opinion of them whatsoever. Still an elite team.

[Uncle Rico]

Meh. More of the same. We'll see

4 top 45 KenPom teams.  Big East has 4 with SJU at 46.  Not saying it's a better league by any means but it's as good as it's been in some time

[panda]

4 top 45 KenPom teams.  Big East has 4 with SJU at 46.  Not saying it's a better league by any means but it's as good as it's been in some time

And none of those teams are remotely close to a threat to Gonzaga. San Fran on the road will be their toughest game.

[Billy Hoyle]

And none of those teams are remotely close to a threat to Gonzaga. San Fran on the road will be their toughest game.

You are severely overrating USF. 4th at best behind GU, BYU, and SMC.

LMU should finish above them too. Stan inherited a hell of a roster and getting a Eli Scott to return was huge. Let's see if Stan can coach. Santa Clara is much improved too,

[panda]

You are severely overrating USF. 4th at best behind GU, BYU, and SMC.

LMU should finish above them too. Stan inherited a hell of a roster and getting a Eli Scott to return was huge. Let's see if Stan can coach. Santa Clara is much improved too,

I really think USF is the second best team in that conference. Bouyea and Shabaz are one of the best mid major tandems in the country.

I'm certainly not disputing the level of play in the Wcc beyond Gonzaga, but what I'm factoring in is how much better Gonzaga is than those teams. They're still head and two sets of shoulders above the next best program. Two losses in conference would be a lot for them.

[fjm]

You are severely overrating USF. 4th at best behind GU, BYU, and SMC.

LMU should finish above them too. Stan inherited a hell of a roster and getting a Eli Scott to return was huge. Let's see if Stan can coach. Santa Clara is much improved too,

I think USF is 3rd.

Hopefully LMU busts out though.

[Herman Cain]

A fun fact on Chris Beard. His lifetime coaching record against the Big East is 1-3. The one win came while at Arkansas Little Rock against Depaul. His lifetime record against Depaul is 1-1.



 

[PGsHeroes32]

Mini meltdown? Drama queen like you write about.

Last night didn't change my opinion of them whatsoever. Still an elite team.

Hope to god you don't keep betting on them as an elite team

[Lennys Tap]

Dramatic would be a mini meltdown over an expression.

And if by top team, you mean top 15. Yeah I'd bet on that.

Top 10? Better hope the Vandy kid is back fast.

They are light years behind Michigan, Gonzaga, Nova, UCLA and Kansas at the very least.

Watch out for Purdue.

[Uncle Rico]

Watch out for Purdue.

Purdue is pretty damn good.  If they don't make a Final 4 this year, Matt Painter may never make one at Purdue

[Dr. Blackheart]

Purdue is pretty damn good.  If they don't make a Final 4 this year, Matt Painter may never make one at Purdue

They dropped four seed lines with their scrimmage loss to Providence

[Galway Eagle]

Purdue is pretty damn good.  If they don't make a Final 4 this year, Matt Painter may never make one at Purdue

People have said that with his Etwuan More, JJ, and Hummel team. As well as the team a couple years ago. I think it's fair to said Painter won't get to the Final Four ever.

[Newsdreams]

They dropped four seed lines with their scrimmage loss to Providence

Got ahead of me Dr.

[Newsdreams]

People have said that with his Etwuan More, JJ, and Hummel team. As well as the team a couple years ago. I think it's fair to said Painter won't get to the Final Four ever.

#Crapshoot

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Is Beard just that good?

Shaka was that bad?

It does look like he had recruited some subpar players going by the what he brought along to MU.

How is your night going jackass?

[avid1010]

How is your night going jackass?

Willie and NLW should be UW fans...they play 4 white guys at all times.

[Lennys Tap]

Watch out for Purdue.

Bump

[willie warrior]

False. As discussed here, some on the BOT wanted Moser but Scholl backed by Lovell wanted Shaka. Let the pros hire their choice.

Just glad we didn't get your choice, Wardle. He is 0-2 to start versus some cupcakes.

Sorry, but you have no idea who was my choice. Just your useless wild ass guess.  My choice was Shaka followed closely by Moser. So put that in your corn cob pipe and smoke it.

[JakeBarnes]

Sorry, but you have no idea who was my choice. Just your useless wild ass guess.  My choice was Shaka followed closely by Moser. So put that in your corn cob pipe and smoke it.

We should bring back corn cob pipes.

[The Sultan]

We should bring back corn cob pipes.

Smoke them in the stands while wearing your suit.