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NolongerWarriors

Is Beard just that good?

Shaka was that bad?

It does look like he had recruited some subpar players going by the what he brought along to MU.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Yeah because being a three seed last year they weren't a title contender...
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brewcity77

Their top two scorers are Andrew Jones & Courtney Ramey, so clearly it's still because of Shaka  ;D

MU82

Chris Beard is a better coach than Shaka Smart.

I don't think it makes anybody less of a Marquette fan or even less of a Shaka fan to admit that. Beard is better than most coaches.

I guess it's accurate to say Shaka had Texas as a "title contender" last year because they were a 3 seed, but that's one year and they ended up humiliating themselves against a team of midgets in the first round. Shaka was 10-22 in his second year at Texas; I'd be willing to bet anybody some serious money than Beard won't be 10-22 at Texas in 2022-23.

The fact that Beard is better than Shaka doesn't mean Shaka was a bad hire for Marquette. So far, he seems to be a good hire. Ultimately, time and results will determine if he was a good hire, a great hire, a bad hire, whatever. It's always about results -- long-term, repeatable results.
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Quote from: tower912 on November 13, 2021, 12:56:30 PM
Beard is that good.

Beard and the transfer portal.

And Beard took over a UT program in better shape than Shaka took over.
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jfp61

1. Beard is really really good.
2. They still could easily lose by 10 tonight.

panda

Quote from: jfp61 on November 13, 2021, 02:56:42 PM
1. Beard is really really good.
2. They still could easily lose by 10 tonight.

Texas is will roll tonight.

wadesworld

Beard and Shaka have the same amount of Final Four appearances.

Jockey

Let's also not forget that Beard had double digit losses in 4 out of 5 years at Texas Tech.

Yes, he is a very good coach, but I'd put him a little below Jay Wright on the coaching ledger.

MU1980

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on November 13, 2021, 12:55:34 PM
Is Beard just that good?

Shaka was that bad?

It does look like he had recruited some subpar players going by the what he brought along to MU.

Your lack of knowledge with anything to do with college basketball is truly mind-blowing to me. How can you follow college basketball as closely as it appears that you do and still be so clueless?


TAMU, Knower of Ball

There are several reasons but mainly, Beard is a better coach than Shaka at this point. I don't think anyone would argue that.
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panda

Quote from: Jockey on November 13, 2021, 03:18:08 PM
Let's also not forget that Beard had double digit losses in 4 out of 5 years at Texas Tech.

Yes, he is a very good coach, but I'd put him a little below Jay Wright on the coaching ledger.

Let's not ignore the fact that since the B12 started in 97, TT has only had a winning record in conference seven times. Beard had three of them and took them to a final four and elite eight.

He's absolutely elite and will quickly make Texas one of the best programs in the country.

avid1010

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on November 13, 2021, 12:55:34 PM
Is Beard just that good?

Shaka was that bad?

It does look like he had recruited some subpar players going by the what he brought along to MU.
Can you explain the whole Rick Barnes thing to me as well.  In all seriousness...since MU hired Shaka you have seemed pissed...but I don't think it has anything to do with his coaching or record..

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

bilsu

My only problem with the Shaka hiring is that we past on Moser, who I believe is the better coach. Of course it is possible that Moser was not interested in MU, but I was very disappointed when we did not get Moser.

jesmu84

Quote from: avid1010 on November 13, 2021, 06:16:45 PM
Can you explain the whole Rick Barnes thing to me as well.  In all seriousness...since MU hired Shaka you have seemed pissed...but I don't think it has anything to do with his coaching or record..

He wanted Moser

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avid1010

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 13, 2021, 07:02:33 PM
MU fooked up. Shoulda hired Beard, hey?
Agreed...though I would have settled for Brad Stevens, Mark Few, or Jay Wright. 

willie warrior

Quote from: bilsu on November 13, 2021, 06:24:16 PM
My only problem with the Shaka hiring is that we past on Moser, who I believe is the better coach. Of course it is possible that Moser was not interested in MU, but I was very disappointed when we did not get Moser.
Doubt if MU made any serious run at Moser. Shaka was the name brand they wanted.
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: avid1010 on November 13, 2021, 07:36:27 PM
Agreed...though I would have settled for Brad Stevens, Mark Few, or Jay Wright.

That would have been a good staff. What do you figure? Steven's as HC with Wright and Few as ACs?
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