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Author Topic: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?  (Read 3191 times)

Dr. Blackheart

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2021, 10:10:32 PM »
Doubt if MU made any serious run at Moser. Shaka was the name brand they wanted.

False. As discussed here, some on the BOT wanted Moser but Scholl backed by Lovell wanted Shaka. Let the pros hire their choice.

Just glad we didn't get your choice, Wardle. He is 0-2 to start versus some cupcakes.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2021, 10:18:38 PM »
Texas is will roll tonight.

Hope to god you didn’t bet money on that
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2021, 10:19:31 PM »
Texas is will roll tonight.

Texas is down 20 at half.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2021, 10:41:09 PM »
Are we sure Texas has “turned into a title contender” since Shaka left? They’re even thinner down low than MU is. And they’ll need to “contend” with teams like Gonzaga to “contend” for a title. They certainly don’t look like they’re ready to do that.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2021, 11:13:56 PM »
I hope Shaka would at least come up with a better gameplan for his defense against Gonzaga than Beard has. Letting an unathletic, thin 6’6” guy defend Timme one on one all game seems to be going about as well as you’d think it’d go.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2021, 11:19:00 PM »
Scoop hype train, as usual, way off the mark. Texas getting shellacked. I see them as a 6-8 seed come tourney time. Certainly good - but they aren’t a Top 10 team, and Beard is not that incrementally better than Shaka.

WithoutBias

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2021, 11:23:24 PM »
Texas was undoubtedly a more complete team last year. This Texas team is weeeeeak inside.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2021, 11:29:04 PM »
Texas was undoubtedly a more complete team last year. This Texas team is weeeeeak inside.

They will definitely get better as the year goes on with this team assembled of transfers from all over.

But they are laughably far off from the 4 teams currently ranked ahead of them.

I think they have a big man from Vandy coming soon too.
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2021, 06:31:48 AM »
Hope to god you didn’t bet money on that

You hope to god ? Dramatic much?

I still think Texas will be a top team this year. But wow, Gonzaga is going to make some bad WCC teams looks silly.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2021, 07:07:13 AM »
Doubt if MU made any serious run at Moser. Shaka was the name brand they wanted.
I doubt anything that comes out of your mouth.  Explain what you mean by brand?

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2021, 07:09:20 AM »
You hope to god ? Dramatic much?

I still think Texas will be a top team this year. But wow, Gonzaga is going to make some bad WCC teams looks silly.

WCC will be sneaky good this year.  4 top 45 KenPom teams.  Portland is really bad at the bottom but Gonzaga will get more of a challenge in league this year.  If they make it out of the league without a loss, I’ll be impressed
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2021, 07:11:09 AM »
Is Beard just that good?

Shaka was that bad?

It does look like he had recruited some subpar players going by the what he brought along to MU.

Texas got embarrassed
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2021, 08:52:36 AM »
WCC will be sneaky good this year.  4 top 45 KenPom teams.  Portland is really bad at the bottom but Gonzaga will get more of a challenge in league this year.  If they make it out of the league without a loss, I’ll be impressed

Hence why I said “bad teams.” WCC will be no better or worse than in years past.

O/U 1.5 losses for the Zags in conference would be an interesting prop. I’d take the under.
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2021, 09:13:51 AM »
WCC will be sneaky good this year.  4 top 45 KenPom teams.  Portland is really bad at the bottom but Gonzaga will get more of a challenge in league this year.  If they make it out of the league without a loss, I’ll be impressed

I am watching Golden and USF.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2021, 09:22:19 AM »
Texas got embarrassed

True, but Gonzaga has embarrassed a few teams over the years, and we both know better than to derive any meaning from a regular-season game in mid-November.

And of course, Texas was embarrassed repeatedly the previous 6 years -- including an 11-22 record in Shaka's second season, not to mention 3 first-round NCAAT losses, including the grand finale vs Abilene Christain.

Shaka left VCU for Texas after the 2014-15 season, and that corresponds to when Beard became a D1 head coach. Since then, I don't think too many objective observers would take Shaka Smart's accomplishments as a coach over those of Chris Beard.

Again, I'm NOT saying Shaka was a bad hire for Marquette. The facts simply say his results have paled compared to Beard's. Maybe this season will be the start to that being turned around, and Texas' people will rue the day they ran Shaka out of town to bring in Beard!
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2021, 09:30:22 AM »
Hence why I said “bad teams.” WCC will be no better or worse than in years past.

O/U 1.5 losses for the Zags in conference would be an interesting prop. I’d take the under.

I’ll take the over
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2021, 09:32:59 AM »
Of course he’s currently a better coach.  It’s why he went to what is currently a much more desirable job.  The outside view of our program is so different than what some of us seem to think it is. Like we can just go get whoever we want. Gotta earn that, and it’s been a long time since we have.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2021, 09:41:14 AM »
I’ll take the over

Recent history and current talent level is certainly working against you. 

Should be fun to watch.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2021, 09:44:21 AM »
Recent history and current talent level is certainly working against you. 

Should be fun to watch.

Conference play is always wonky, even for the best teams.  USF, BYU and St. Mary’s are all capable of making the dance.  LMU is pretty good, too.  It isn’t meant to say Gonzaga is overrated, bad or anything like that.  I just think they’ll be pushed much harder in the league this year
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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2021, 09:59:14 AM »
Conference play is always wonky, even for the best teams.  USF, BYU and St. Mary’s are all capable of making the dance.  LMU is pretty good, too.  It isn’t meant to say Gonzaga is overrated, bad or anything like that.  I just think they’ll be pushed much harder in the league this year

Looking at their conference results from the last four years, there is nothing wonky about them. They beat teams by at least 10 points in what seems like 98% of games.

It’s really unbelievable when you peel back the onion.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2021, 10:23:28 AM »
I doubt anything that comes out of your mouth.  Explain what you mean by brand?
And anything that comes from your brain

Shaka was wanted once before by MU, had a reputation as a hot coach from VCU.
Shaka and Moser both would have been good choices
 Surely much better than the mediocrity of Wojo-Dukiet
Main point was I don't believe MU made a serious run at Moser. Believe Shaka was MUs first choicr

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2021, 10:33:06 AM »
Your lack of knowledge with anything to do with college basketball is truly mind-blowing to me. How can you follow college basketball as closely as it appears that you do and still be so clueless?
Again, hid post has nothing to do with college basketball, it is all about him not liking Shaka's social stances.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2021, 10:37:40 AM »
My only problem with the Shaka hiring is that we past on Moser, who I believe is the better coach. Of course it is possible that Moser was not interested in MU, but I was very disappointed when we did not get Moser.

He was.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2021, 10:38:50 AM »
Doubt if MU made any serious run at Moser. Shaka was the name brand they wanted.
They could not see past their nose. Replaced Wojo with another coach who could not win an NCAA game the last 6 years with more NBA draft picks.

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Re: Why has Texas turned into a title contender since Shaka left?
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2021, 10:47:29 AM »
You hope to god ? Dramatic much?

I still think Texas will be a top team this year. But wow, Gonzaga is going to make some bad WCC teams looks silly.

Dramatic would be a mini meltdown over an expression.

And if by top team, you mean top 15. Yeah I’d bet on that.

Top 10? Better hope the Vandy kid is back fast.

They are light years behind Michigan, Gonzaga, Nova, UCLA and Kansas at the very least.
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