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Author Topic: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22  (Read 5734 times)

PGsHeroes32

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2021, 09:54:15 PM »
Time is a way bigger douche than Reddick ever was.

He’s so good

But celebrating every single basket is obnoxious.

Especially his stupid “too small” gesture for the defender
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2021, 09:54:39 PM »
Is there a more obnoxious player in college hoops than Drew Timme?

Edit: was so annoyed with him didn’t bother reading the other replies to see many others say the same thing.

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2021, 10:08:31 PM »
This looks like a complete mismatch.  Beard may have to double Timme.  Someone may put Timme on his ass before the year is finished.

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2021, 10:14:38 PM »
Texas has nobody that can guard Timme(obviously)

But they also have no one that can get in front of Nembhard. Or really even contain guys like Bolton and Strawther
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2021, 10:19:17 PM »
Texas has nobody that can guard Timme(obviously)

But they also have no one that can get in front of Nembhard. Or really even contain guys like Bolton and Strawther

Wow. That was a pretty emphatic 20 mins from Gonzaga.  What do you do in general about Timme?  Does any team have an enforcer? 

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2021, 10:23:13 PM »
Wow. That was a pretty emphatic 20 mins from Gonzaga.  What do you do in general about Timme?  Does any team have an enforcer?

He’ll continue to struggle with teams that have a combination of size and athleticism. Unfortunately that’s a rare combination in college basketball. But I don’t see Gonzaga winning it all this year. They weren’t athletic enough to beat Baylor last year, and they didn’t get any more athletic this year.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2021, 10:24:42 PM »
The mock drafts have Timme in the 2nd round. 

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2021, 10:29:59 PM »
He’ll continue to struggle with teams that have a combination of size and athleticism. Unfortunately that’s a rare combination in college basketball. But I don’t see Gonzaga winning it all this year. They weren’t athletic enough to beat Baylor last year, and they didn’t get any more athletic this year.

Not saying they will win it. But this team is  definitely more versatile than last year.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2021, 10:41:05 PM »
The mock drafts have Timme in the 2nd round.

Going before or after Justin Lewis?
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2021, 10:42:41 PM »
Not saying they will win it. But this team is  definitely more versatile than last year.

I don’t know. Kispert and Suggs were way, way better college players than anyone they added this year. They were both great.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2021, 10:43:30 PM »
Texas goes zone.  To beat Gonzaga you need an athletic big and possibly 85-90 pts.

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2021, 10:55:20 PM »
I don’t know. Kispert and Suggs were way, way better college players than anyone they added this year. They were both great.

Definitely. But adding Holmgren compliments Timme more imo to let him get space.

This team is deeper even tho they will still probably only go 8 deep sans foul trouble.

And with no Suggs. Nembhard can be in his more natural role with Bolton more of a fit in the role Nembhard had last year.

So IMO while losing Suggs and Kispert is a big blow. I think this team pieces together really well.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2021, 11:00:43 PM »
All of a sudden we have a ball-game.  Zags got cocky? 

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2021, 11:03:10 PM »
I will say the one concern with this Zags team just like last year


Can they consistently make 3s.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2021, 11:11:38 PM »
I will say the one concern with this Zags team just like last year


Can they consistently make 3s.

The 2 is pretty effective when you're like 14-18.

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2021, 11:12:50 PM »
Chet is very lanky. Needs a few more years?

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2021, 11:18:48 PM »
Chet is very lanky. Needs a few more years?

They are saying he's the #1 pick.  The NBA is way different but I think he needs 2 more years.

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2021, 11:52:20 PM »
They are saying he's the #1 pick.  The NBA is way different but I think he needs 2 more years.

They are saying he's the #1 pick.  The NBA is way different but I think he needs 2 more years.

He undoubtedly "needs" more years to be an effective NBA player, but that doesn't mean he will "need" more years to be a top pick and instant multi-millionaire.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2021, 11:57:17 PM »
The mock drafts have Timme in the 2nd round.

Not a chance. He’s a 6’9” true post player without a jump shot and who doesn’t handle the ball particularly well.

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2021, 07:56:40 AM »
Not a chance. He’s a 6’9” true post player without a jump shot and who doesn’t handle the ball particularly well.

You don't think he'll be drafted at all?

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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2021, 08:35:47 AM »
The transfer I was hoping Marquette would get was Davidson's Kellan Grady. He is Kentucky's No. 2 scorer and is shooting 54% from 3-point range. He was a stud at Davidson, and has a decent shot at an NBA career.

Not sure whether Shaka ever gave him a call, and it's unlikely that he would have chosen MU over Kentucky anyway, but a girl can dream ...
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2021, 09:09:34 AM »
You don't think he'll be drafted at all?

He probably will.   In regards to the NBA, look at his size and skill set.    How does that match up with how the game is played in the NBA?     Answer that question, and you will have a pretty good idea about where he gets drafted.   
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2021, 09:33:48 AM »
Garza was drafted. Timme certainly could be drafted.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2021, 09:43:37 AM »
Garza was drafted. Timme certainly could be drafted.

That's exactly what I was thinking.  I'm guessing late 1st.  He doesn't have the 3 ball like Kaminsky or Garza but can improve. He has excellent hands and footwork.  I can't stand the guy but I think people are underestimating him a bit.  No doubt his game doesn't fit today's nba but I think he couod be a modest contributor off the bench.  Now, it's also possible someone decks him and it derails his career.
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Re: NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22
« Reply #74 on: November 15, 2021, 10:00:26 AM »
They are saying he's the #1 pick.  The NBA is way different but I think he needs 2 more years.

He doesn't need 2 more years.  Durant was a twig when he was drafted.  Brandon Ingram was a twig when he was drafted. Evan Mobley is 6'11 210 lbs and he was a top 3 pick. 

Super skilled, fluid 7 footers who can shoot don't grow on trees.  He'll bulk up as he ages and be fine.  If the rest of his season is like the Texas game, maybe there is some pause, but I doubt it on both accounts.

That's exactly what I was thinking.  I'm guessing late 1st.  He doesn't have the 3 ball like Kaminsky or Garza but can improve. He has excellent hands and footwork.  I can't stand the guy but I think people are underestimating him a bit.  No doubt his game doesn't fit today's nba but I think he couod be a modest contributor off the bench.  Now, it's also possible someone decks him and it derails his career.

Not a chance he's late 1st.

Garza is taller, shot better from 3 and the floor, and also was a voracious rebounder.  Timme's rebounding stats are honestly fairly pedestrian.

I like Timme's game at the college level, but he's more Ethan Happ than Garza or Kaminsky, and we saw what happened to Happ professionally.

 

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