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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 21, 2022, 08:44:01 AM
Or did Thompson play at princeton?

Big John played at Providence.  JT III played at Princeton
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2022, 09:04:14 AM
Big John played at Providence.  JT III played at Princeton

I know I was just being a big ole goof
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

StillWarriors

Quote from: panda on January 21, 2022, 07:54:11 AM
Particularly for Butler - "In the family" was a reasonable decision making process when they were competing in the Horizon and A10.

At this point, it's just small time thinking. If they want to elevate their program out of BE mediocrity, it would be foolish to only consider a very limited base of applicants.

What constitutes "in the family?" Brad Stevens did not attend Butler. He went to DePauw. His first connection with Butler, I believe, was as a volunteer assistant. He left a job in the corporate world to take that position. He was made a paid assistant the next year and the head coach several years later. Pretty amazing arc to where he is now.

panda

Quote from: StillWarriors on January 21, 2022, 12:11:05 PM
What constitutes "in the family?" Brad Stevens did not attend Butler. He went to DePauw. His first connection with Butler, I believe, was as a volunteer assistant. He left a job in the corporate world to take that position. He was made a paid assistant the next year and the head coach several years later. Pretty amazing arc to where he is now.

He was an assistant there for years before he was promoted to HC.

The Sultan

Quote from: StillWarriors on January 21, 2022, 12:11:05 PM
What constitutes "in the family?" Brad Stevens did not attend Butler. He went to DePauw. His first connection with Butler, I believe, was as a volunteer assistant. He left a job in the corporate world to take that position. He was made a paid assistant the next year and the head coach several years later. Pretty amazing arc to where he is now.


Barry Collier became coach in 1989.  Every coached hired since that time served as an assistant under Collier or one of his successors. 

Holtmann isn't an alum either BTW.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: StillWarriors on January 21, 2022, 12:11:05 PM
What constitutes "in the family?" Brad Stevens did not attend Butler. He went to DePauw. His first connection with Butler, I believe, was as a volunteer assistant. He left a job in the corporate world to take that position. He was made a paid assistant the next year and the head coach several years later. Pretty amazing arc to where he is now.

Yea, I think just an affiliation with the Butler program.  Before what Matta/Lickliter/Stevens created, Butler was a nice little mid major with distant history.  So bringing in alums from the program to coach made sense.  Stevens and Holtmann were attracted to the program otherwise.

I would be shocked if the next coach doesn't have a Butler connection.  Especially as long as Collier is AD.  And I don't necessarily think thats a bad thing.  Its not a rotten tree despite a few down years.

I think Ryan Pedon gets a LONG look.  I know Miami wanted him for their vacancy a few years back but he followed Holtmann to OSU thinking he could shoot higher and I think he'd be very interested

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2022, 09:04:14 AM
Big John played at Providence.  JT III played at Princeton

Big John was also a somewhat legend (depending on definition) as a player: All American, NBA, two time world champion. Which I thought Fluff was referring.

Lil' John was neither although I think GU screwed him as a coach (and themselves).

StillWarriors

Quote from: JWags85 on January 21, 2022, 12:37:02 PM
Yea, I think just an affiliation with the Butler program.  Before what Matta/Lickliter/Stevens created, Butler was a nice little mid major with distant history.  So bringing in alums from the program to coach made sense.  Stevens and Holtmann were attracted to the program otherwise.

I would be shocked if the next coach doesn't have a Butler connection.  Especially as long as Collier is AD.  And I don't necessarily think thats a bad thing.  Its not a rotten tree despite a few down years.

I think Ryan Pedon gets a LONG look.  I know Miami wanted him for their vacancy a few years back but he followed Holtmann to OSU thinking he could shoot higher and I think he'd be very interested

Makes sense.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 21, 2022, 12:47:55 PM
Big John was also a somewhat legend (depending on definition) as a player: All American, NBA, two time world champion. Which I thought Fluff was referring.

Lil' John was neither although I think GU screwed him as a coach (and themselves).
JT III had a solid coaching record at Princeton. Moved up to Georgetown and did well. Georgetown fan base could not tolerate two bad years and he got the boot. Be careful what you wish for.
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CountryRoads

Looks like Aiken is out with a concussion today. Reports are saying he got it from Elliot's elbow.

Herman Cain

The Hall viewing The Garden to play The Johnnies . Should be a good battle.
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It's been all down hill for Georgetown since Will Smith spurned them on The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

Uncle Rico

I have no idea what St. John's does on offense.  What a sloppy team
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Uncle Rico

I have no idea what Seton Hall does on offense.  They are so sloppy
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 22, 2022, 11:16:09 AM
I have no idea what Seton Hall does on offense.  They are so sloppy

Drive and flop

JakeBarnes

Quote from: CountryRoads on January 22, 2022, 10:24:05 AM
Looks like Aiken is out with a concussion today. Reports are saying he got it from Elliot's elbow.

Willard said he might be out for Wednesday too. Might be gamesmanship, but something to monitor.
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Uncle Rico

St. John's is the same team year-in, year-out.  It's incredible
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lostpassword

Nova struggling with Georgetown in DC.  Down 3 at the half

Herman Cain

Quote from: lostpassword on January 22, 2022, 12:06:32 PM
Nova struggling with Georgetown in DC.  Down 3 at the half
Can't have our win over Nova get debased
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Oldgym

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 22, 2022, 12:08:44 PM
Can't have our win over Nova get debased

100%.  V needs to get it together.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 22, 2022, 12:08:44 PM
Can't have our win over Nova get debased

What in the world is going on with Nova Herman?  Did we destroy their will?

fjm

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 22, 2022, 12:18:49 PM
What in the world is going on with Nova Herman?  Did we destroy their will?

Our win demotivated jay wright


CrowdOf5

A Nova loss gets us closer to the top spot.

Fred Garvin

St John's vs Seton Hall is so out of control, it's not even funny! Terrible basketball

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