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Daniel

Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 16, 2021, 10:15:32 PM
Four games.
Four B1G favorites.
Four BE wins.

We got this.

Amazing!    Great SH game wow

Herman Cain

Big East 26-2 in non conference. As Steve Lavin points out, these good November and hopefully  December performances will definitely help the league come post season selection time.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brewcity77

Massive start to the week for the league and doing a lot to make up for the marginal start.

MuggsyB

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 16, 2021, 10:25:45 PM
Massive start to the week for the league and doing a lot to make up for the marginal start.

Huge.  My take is Purdue or Illinois will win the B14.

GB Warrior

Been the best day as a MU fan in a long, long time, and an awfully good 2 days for the Big East.

lawdog77

Great start for the BigEast, but leave it to those nerds in the Ivy League to figure out how to break the RPI code.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html


dad's couch

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 17, 2021, 04:58:54 AM
Great start for the BigEast, but leave it to those nerds in the Ivy League to figure out how to break the RPI code.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Someone might want to tell them that the Big East has 11 teams now.

brewcity77

Quote from: dad's couch on November 17, 2021, 08:27:24 AM
Someone might want to tell them that the Big East has 11 teams now.

Since RPI isn't really a thing anymore, they probably don't update the site often.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

SH defense against Michigan looked pretty good last night. BE may not be having such a down year after all.

UWW2MU

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 17, 2021, 04:58:54 AM
Great start for the BigEast, but leave it to those nerds in the Ivy League to figure out how to break the RPI code.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html


Yeah, they didn't break it... it was a bad design from the beginning.  Which is why it isn't used anymore.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 17, 2021, 04:58:54 AM
Great start for the BigEast, but leave it to those nerds in the Ivy League to figure out how to break the RPI code.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
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The MVC figured it out about 20 years ago and the Committee penalized them for it. Missouri State had an RPI of 21 and was left out of the tourney. It happened to them again when they were left out with an RPI of 42 but no "signature win."
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

lawdog77

<old man screaming at clouds> WHY IS MICHIGAN STILL #3 AND ILLINOIS#5 IN KENPOM!!!

Hards Alumni

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 17, 2021, 02:56:15 PM
<old man screaming at clouds> WHY IS MICHIGAN STILL #3 AND ILLINOIS#5 IN KENPOM!!!

kenpom is insanely conservative on movement.   Especially at the top.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 17, 2021, 02:56:15 PM
<old man screaming at clouds> WHY IS MICHIGAN STILL #3 AND ILLINOIS#5 IN KENPOM!!!

KenPom, like most rankings, is not actually about the rank but is really about the score (AdjEM is the score that KenPom uses). As stats often are, KenPom scores are on a bell curve. There is a lot of space between the scores of teams ranked towards the top and towards the bottom and a lot less space between the scores of teams ranked towards the middle. This means that it takes a lot for top teams to move up or down (same with the garbage teams ranked 325 or worse).

For example, the space between #1 Gonzaga (+31.27 AdjEM) and #2 Kansas (+27.12) is greater than the space between #88 Marquette (+9.09) and #118 Missouri (+5.07). This means Gonzaga can likely suffer multiple losses before Kansas would be able to overtake them.
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TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


brewcity77

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 17, 2021, 02:56:15 PM
<old man screaming at clouds> WHY IS MICHIGAN STILL #3 AND ILLINOIS#5 IN KENPOM!!!


GooooMarquette

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 17, 2021, 02:56:15 PM
<old man screaming at clouds> WHY IS MICHIGAN STILL #3 AND ILLINOIS#5 IN KENPOM!!!


Because KenPom is played on paper, while basketball is played on the court...

MU82

Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 17, 2021, 06:32:19 PM

Because KenPom is played on paper, while basketball is played on the court...

One of these years, the title-winning team is gonna be cutting down the nets but they'll give the trophy to the loser because they were still ahead on kenpom.
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: MU82 on November 17, 2021, 06:34:16 PM
One of these years, the title-winning team is gonna be cutting down the nets but they'll give the trophy to the loser because they were still ahead on kenpom.


And the stats geeks will be cheering.

;D

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on November 17, 2021, 06:34:16 PM
One of these years, the title-winning team is gonna be cutting down the nets but they'll give the trophy to the loser because they were still ahead on kenpom.

Gonzaga is hanging the 2021 KenPom Champions banner.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Pakuni on November 17, 2021, 06:44:17 PM
Gonzaga is hanging the 2021 KenPom Champions banner.

Seton Hall won the Virtual Basketball tournament (simulated on some guys' old Playstation 2) last year, which is canon. I swear to god you guys don't follow basketball at all.

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Herman Cain

LIU at U Conn
MSU at Butler
Johnnies at Indiana
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB


tower912

This is the most passive I can remember St. John's playing.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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