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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1000 on: January 26, 2022, 11:36:06 PM »
I feel like SH fans would be happy in Willard left, seems like they are cooling in him again?

Texas fans were probably happy Shaka left though… so maybe it wouldn’t be so bad for Louisville.

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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1001 on: January 26, 2022, 11:39:01 PM »
Seriously? Cooley or Willard? Someone in some other thread also said that Louisville might go after Shaka.

The implication is that the BEast is a stepping stone. F**k that.

Louisville shouldn't be an appealing job to any coach that has already cut their teeth. No BEast should be willing to go there at this point.

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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1002 on: January 26, 2022, 11:50:01 PM »
Louisville is a dumpster fire right now. Wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Aren't they still under and ongoing NCAA investigation
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1003 on: January 27, 2022, 12:37:59 AM »
Louisville is a dumpster fire right now. Wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Aren't they still under and ongoing NCAA investigation

No one in the Big East besides Jay has it going like Mack did at X before he left. His tale should be a cautionary one to all the other coaches around the league…
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1004 on: January 27, 2022, 12:41:37 AM »
Cooley feels like the most likely Big East coach to leave for greener pastures after this year. Riding a very old team with some good luck. He also seems like a really nice dude who would kill it in an interview.

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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1005 on: January 27, 2022, 07:48:47 AM »
Cooley just doesn't fit that culture IMO, and I doubt he'd want the headache that goes with the Louisville job. Of course, money talks, and if he gets $25M like Mack whether he succeeds or not...

I also doubt Louisville reaches into the BE again for a coach after the failure of Mack, and certainly not for a coach far less successful like Willard.
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1006 on: January 27, 2022, 07:52:06 AM »
I don't think Louisville would have any interest in Cooley. 
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1007 on: January 27, 2022, 07:57:14 AM »
Louisville is a dumpster fire right now. Wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Aren't they still under and ongoing NCAA investigation

Agree and yes. In addition, they don’t have a permanent AD or university president in place. Sound familiar?

It will never happen, but CTC would be a good choice to rebuild that train wreck.

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« Reply #1008 on: January 27, 2022, 08:04:24 AM »
Hmmm...  I think CTC's days an an in-demand coach are going to go away after his UGa gig. 
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1009 on: January 27, 2022, 08:05:33 AM »
Hmmm...  I think CTC's days an an in-demand coach are going to go away after his UGa gig.

Ummm…that’s why I said it would never happen, Fluff.

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« Reply #1010 on: January 27, 2022, 08:07:34 AM »
Right.  But I don't think he would be a good choice either.  His years as an energetic program builder like he was at MU were over 20 years ago.  And its clearly not really working at Georgia.

I just don't think he would be good there at all even if it did happen.
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« Reply #1011 on: January 27, 2022, 08:22:46 AM »
Right.  But I don't think he would be a good choice either.  His years as an energetic program builder like he was at MU were over 20 years ago.  And its clearly not really working at Georgia.

I just don't think he would be good there at all even if it did happen.

I think COVID has impacted his recruiting ability. The guy needs a live audience. I can’t imagine him on Zoom. You may be right that his ship has sailed, but UGA was always a bad fit for him. I thought the DePaul job when they went DL2 was a good fit for his abilities.

That said, no successful coach is leaving for that dumpster fire with that uncertainty. UL will have to settle for damaged goods. Mack has a lot of friends and they will be wary. The next coach will be a short timer anyway, and Crean has been successful in these types of roles as we discussed. Who else that’s Crean-like but is a bit damaged would fit that profile? Buzz?

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« Reply #1012 on: January 27, 2022, 08:52:36 AM »
I say this without knowing any of the personalities involved, but I would seriously look at Bellarmine's Scott Davenport as head coach and then throw a ton of money at Kenny Payne to be associate head coach.  Bellarmine plays a fun, up-tempo offense and Payne can recruit.  Both are alums. 
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1013 on: January 27, 2022, 09:07:00 AM »
I say this without knowing any of the personalities involved, but I would seriously look at Bellarmine's Scott Davenport as head coach and then throw a ton of money at Kenny Payne to be associate head coach.  Bellarmine plays a fun, up-tempo offense and Payne can recruit.  Both are alums.

Davenport is an interesting one, with UL roots. I just was watching video of his offensive concepts (“A Team Who Doesn’t Dribble), but he is 64 and I’d think the UL faithful would be disappointed.

Payne seems to be on everyone’s list. DePaul made an unsuccessful run at him. Not a lot of success stories of NBA assistants/greats lately making the jump to the NCAA. I’d think with no AD or President, being a newcomer there would not end well for him.

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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1014 on: January 27, 2022, 09:48:10 AM »
Davenport is an interesting one, with UL roots. I just was watching video of his offensive concepts (“A Team Who Doesn’t Dribble), but he is 64 and I’d think the UL faithful would be disappointed.

I know Ville has a bit of a black eye right now, but I think they would still riot if they got essentially a D2 coach in his mid 60s.

Honestly, only kind of joking, what about Sean Miller?

Otherwise maybe they throw a bag at Matt McMahon down the road at Murray St?

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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1015 on: January 27, 2022, 10:06:19 AM »
I know Ville has a bit of a black eye right now, but I think they would still riot if they got essentially a D2 coach in his mid 60s.

Honestly, only kind of joking, what about Sean Miller?

Otherwise maybe they throw a bag at Matt McMahon down the road at Murray St?

I can see Miller making sense in a vacuum, though I wonder if it would matter that he was basically Mack's mentor and the two are close friends.
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« Reply #1016 on: January 27, 2022, 10:24:26 AM »
Cooley feels like the most likely Big East coach to leave for greener pastures after this year. Riding a very old team with some good luck. He also seems like a really nice dude who would kill it in an interview.

Cooley turned down a Michigan interview. He is not leaving Providence.

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« Reply #1017 on: January 27, 2022, 10:37:06 AM »
Cooley turned down a Michigan interview. He is not leaving Providence.

Agree. When you hear Ed Cooley talk about the Big East and Providence basketball, he sounds like a man that is living a dream right now and knows it.
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1018 on: January 27, 2022, 10:47:27 AM »
Cooley feels like the most likely Big East coach to leave for greener pastures after this year. Riding a very old team with some good luck. He also seems like a really nice dude who would kill it in an interview.

He's a Rhode Islander through and through. It's a good time to be at PC.

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« Reply #1019 on: January 27, 2022, 12:02:41 PM »
Cooley or Willard to Maryland makes a lot more sense to me than Louisville.

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« Reply #1020 on: January 27, 2022, 12:10:46 PM »
Cooley or Willard to Maryland makes a lot more sense to me than Louisville.

Is Willard really that big of a draw to other schools? I mean he’s been at Seton Hall 12 years, made 4 tournaments (would have been 5 if not for Covid), and won a single tournament game in those 12 years. That’s pretty wojoesque if you ask me. They’ve had some decent teams in recent years I guess, but I’m just not sure. 


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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1021 on: January 27, 2022, 12:14:32 PM »
Is Willard really that big of a draw to other schools? I mean he’s been at Seton Hall 12 years, made 4 tournaments (would have been 5 if not for Covid), and won a single tournament game in those 12 years. That’s pretty wojoesque if you ask me. They’ve had some decent teams in recent years I guess, but I’m just not sure.

Willard was given an exceptionally long leash because of where Hall was before he got there and to let the Whitehead class develop that he sold his soul for. He's really been rolling since that class was juniors (sophomores?)
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« Reply #1022 on: January 27, 2022, 12:17:54 PM »
Is Willard really that big of a draw to other schools? I mean he’s been at Seton Hall 12 years, made 4 tournaments (would have been 5 if not for Covid), and won a single tournament game in those 12 years. That’s pretty wojoesque if you ask me. They’ve had some decent teams in recent years I guess, but I’m just not sure.

Before that, no one had any consistent success there since PJ Carlesimo. It's a tough job and I think people acknowledge that. Honestly, I've come to have a grudging respect for Willard. He's recruited guys that play tough and generally compete every night. I can see why him and Cooley would be attractive candidates under the "if they did THAT with those resources, what would they do with ours?"
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« Reply #1023 on: January 27, 2022, 12:18:45 PM »
Before that, no one had any consistent success there since PJ Carlesimo. It's a tough job and I think people acknowledge that. Honestly, I've come to have a grudging respect for Willard. He's recruited guys that play tough and generally compete every night. I can see why him and Cooley would be attractive candidates under the "if they did THAT with those resources, what would they do with ours?"

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« Reply #1024 on: January 27, 2022, 12:30:26 PM »
Before that, no one had any consistent success there since PJ Carlesimo. It's a tough job and I think people acknowledge that. Honestly, I've come to have a grudging respect for Willard. He's recruited guys that play tough and generally compete every night. I can see why him and Cooley would be attractive candidates under the "if they did THAT with those resources, what would they do with ours?"
I agree with this. Look at Beilein as an example. Upper level BE coach who did well at an upper level B10 school. He wasn't Calhoun or Boeheim good and UofM is not a blue blood but neither is Maryland or UofL.

 

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