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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: jficke13 on November 15, 2021, 01:24:41 PM
It's times like these I have to remind myself that most people don't do statutory analysis on the regular.

So... there's this thing about state legislatures. They write statutes... right? Just, uh... look at a state legislature and the typical legislator when you have a moment. Doing that will put a reaction of "that's not a very well-worded statute" into perspective.

Kind of. Every piece of legislation in WI is written and reviewed by the Legislative Reference Bureau before being introduced. It is supposed to be non-partisan. (usual people with a background in Administrative Law).  https://legis.wisconsin.gov/LRB/

Most states have similar bodies. Legislators themselves rarely write actual bills that end up being debated.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: jficke13 on November 15, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
If they're lucky. People love to gripe about ALEC writing legislation, but that actually tends (not always, but tends) to put into effect the thing it's actually designed to do. More often you get this:

"We *tried* to ban dangerous weapons in the hands of minors, but we also know that hunting is okay, so we *tried* to create a carveout that would allow minors to still hunt, but we just weren't very specific and so read in its totality this kinda sorta excludes long guns from the statute. Who coulda seen it coming? Classic whoospiedoops."

Isn't that what the legislative reference bureau in Wisconsin for?  The actual drafting of legislation.   Not having the elected goofs trying to write bills, let the lawyers do it.

Billy Hoyle

so, if Rittenhouse is acquitted what happens in Kenosha? Anyone living there or nearby?
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

jesmu84

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 15, 2021, 05:44:43 PM
so, if Rittenhouse is acquitted what happens in Kenosha? Anyone living there or nearby?

Kenosha? I'm more interested in nationwide agitation by future rittenhouses

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 15, 2021, 05:44:43 PM
so, if Rittenhouse is acquitted what happens in Kenosha? Anyone living there or nearby?

Jockitch will be burning down auto zones.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 15, 2021, 06:34:09 PM
Kenosha? I'm more interested in nationwide agitation by future rittenhouses

Hopefully BLM sympathizers won't set cities on fire in the future so we won't find out.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

jesmu84

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 15, 2021, 08:33:25 PM
Hopefully BLM sympathizers won't set cities on fire in the future so we won't find out.

Rioting and looting are bad.

Going into a violent area with a weapon is also bad.

Fukk outta here with that BS.


Billy Hoyle

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 15, 2021, 08:46:19 PM
Rioting and looting are bad.

Going into a violent area with a weapon is also bad.

Fukk outta here with that BS.

Yes they are. So hopefully there won't be situations where either feels compelled to do either.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

jesmu84

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 15, 2021, 08:51:51 PM
Yes they are. So hopefully there won't be situations where either feels compelled to do either.

Ya. That's sure what you meant

Billy Hoyle

#284
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 15, 2021, 08:53:51 PM
Ya. That's sure what you meant

It is, but go ahead and make up your own narrative.

If there hadn't been riots there wouldn't have been a draw for cosplay vigilantes.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

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