Star Wars Universe Thread

[MU82]

Finally finished Obi-Wan. It was OK. Better than Boba Fett, not nearly as good as Mandalorian IMHO.

Obi-Wan went on to regret having not killed Anakin years earlier, so why didn't he finish off Vader this time when he definitely had the chance to do so?

Vader easily could have killed Obi-Wan but instead just buried him in rocks and had to know Obi-Wan wasn't dead. Why?

Why didn't Vader kill Reva? I have to agree with Rico about the Reva character. All over the place.

Don't all these people learn from the James Bond movies and even the old Batman series? Just effen kill the person you theoretically want dead!

And why did Obi-Wan have to go into hiding at the end, not to resurface for years and years?

[Uncle Rico]

Finally finished Obi-Wan. It was OK. Better than Boba Fett, not nearly as good as Mandalorian IMHO.

Obi-Wan went on to regret having not killed Anakin years earlier, so why didn't he finish off Vader this time when he definitely had the chance to do so?

Vader easily could have killed Obi-Wan but instead just buried him in rocks and had to know Obi-Wan wasn't dead. Why?

Why didn't Vader kill Reva? I have to agree with Rico about the Reva character. All over the place.

Don't all these people learn from the James Bond movies and even the old Batman series? Just effen kill the person you theoretically want dead!

And why did Obi-Wan have to go into hiding at the end, not to resurface for years and years?

It was an unnecessary show

[PGsHeroes32]

Obi Wan was meh.

Not bad. But completely unecessary.

[Uncle Rico]

Obi Wan was meh.

Not bad. But completely unecessary.

There's probably a story worth telling.  And the idea of a young Leia story is interesting, as is a story of any younglings that survived Order 66.  All together?  Eh

[MU82]

There's probably a story worth telling.  And the idea of a young Leia story is interesting, as is a story of any younglings that survived Order 66.  All together?  Eh

I like the idea, Unk. Let's put you in charge of a Leia project!

[brewcity77]

Obi-Wan was, for me, classic early MCU. I had to learn to put aside the "we need an alcoholic Tony story" and "but Thor is supposed to take over Donald Blake" and all the other non-accurate complaints.

Obi-Wan wasn't perfect, but it was fun and the battles between Ben and Vader were the ones we deserved. I'll take it.

[DegenerateDish]

I just binged all 6 episodes this weekend. I enjoyed it for the most part, but episode 6 had too many head scratching moments. Like how the hell does Reva (who at the end of episode 5 has a lightsaber through her) make it to Tatooine while Vader/Obi Wan are just leaving in space? How the heck did she both survive and then get there? Other people asked the obvious other questions that I had.

[Uncle Rico]

I just binged all 6 episodes this weekend. I enjoyed it for the most part, but episode 6 had too many head scratching moments. Like how the hell does Reva (who at the end of episode 5 has a lightsaber through her) make it to Tatooine while Vader/Obi Wan are just leaving in space? How the heck did she both survive and then get there? Other people asked the obvious other questions that I had.

It's a mess.

[jesmu84]

I just binged all 6 episodes this weekend. I enjoyed it for the most part, but episode 6 had too many head scratching moments. Like how the hell does Reva (who at the end of episode 5 has a lightsaber through her) make it to Tatooine while Vader/Obi Wan are just leaving in space? How the heck did she both survive and then get there? Other people asked the obvious other questions that I had.

What a mess

From now on, if Filoni and Favreau aren't involved, it shouldn't be greenlit

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Finally finished Obi-Wan.  Some parts were really cool, others made no sense.

Things were pretty good thru 2.75 episodes, then things went off the rails.  Tried to do too much in too little time.

Overall, I still enjoyed the miniseries.  It did add some depth to the SW lore, even though there were plot holes the size of the dune sea.

[Golden Avalanche]

I just binged all 6 episodes this weekend. I enjoyed it for the most part, but episode 6 had too many head scratching moments. Like how the hell does Reva (who at the end of episode 5 has a lightsaber through her) make it to Tatooine while Vader/Obi Wan are just leaving in space? How the heck did she both survive and then get there? Other people asked the obvious other questions that I had.

The Force?

[DegenerateDish]

Mark my words, Andor will be the best Star Wars/Disney+ show.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Finally finished Obi-Wan.  Some parts were really cool, others made no sense.

Things were pretty good thru 2.75 episodes, then things went off the rails.  Tried to do too much in too little time.

Overall, I still enjoyed the miniseries.  It did add some depth to the SW lore, even though there were plot holes the size of the dune sea.

I just finished yesterday.  Enjoyed also and fun to see all the characters back.

The Inquisitors was an interesting add that I was unaware existed in The SWU.

They definitely left a lot open on purpose for more sessions.

[jficke13]

I just binged all 6 episodes this weekend. I enjoyed it for the most part, but episode 6 had too many head scratching moments. Like how the hell does Reva (who at the end of episode 5 has a lightsaber through her) make it to Tatooine while Vader/Obi Wan are just leaving in space? How the heck did she both survive and then get there? Other people asked the obvious other questions that I had.

Star Wars suffers a bit from not knowing exactly how *hard* to make its worldbuilding elements. Think of science fiction as a spectrum from Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars on one hand where the science is *almost* accurate and no laws of physics shall ever be broken and, for example, Star Wars and the samurai adventure of space wizards on the other. Even when writing "soft" SF, the sort where Obi Wan can become a force ghost and talk to Luke after dying and laser swords are a viable weapon when people have guns, the key to make it satisfying is to establish whatever rules you want to govern the world, and then stick to them.

Star Wars IV-VI did this admirably. The EU books I read as a kid seemed to commit to doing so as well. There was this sort of rulebook at play that governed all manner of things about how the characters can navigate the universe, how the technology works, how the force works, etc., and then Lucas Arts forced the writers to play inside the sandbox. Post JJ Abrams, they have basically said "nope, it's rule of cool forever and always."

Reva getting to Tattooine at the end, and then Obi Wan pursuing her there, is a great example of how breaking logical rules leads to unsatisfying results. We know that it takes time to travel from place to place and everyone dating back to Chewy playing space chess on the Falcon in IV knows this, yet in order for the logistics of the Obi Wan conclusion to work they had to basically be like "whatever, they just get where they need to go instantaneously." Even if you're not a weirdo like me who thinks about the storytelling elements and effects and spend time diagnosing why that was unsatisfying, almost everyone is going have some degree of "wait a minute" when some established rule of the world is just flaunted for story convenience.

[Uncle Rico]

Mark my words, Andor will be the best Star Wars/Disney+ show.

The first three episodes were quite good

[tower912]

Great origin story.   Can they make it through without referencing the Force?

[Uncle Rico]

Great origin story.   Can they make it through without referencing the Force?

I think Tony Gilroy can. 

[tower912]

Syril Karn should have listened to his boss.

[Uncle Rico]

Syril Karn should have listened to his boss.

If done right, he could end up being one of the more interesting bad guys

[tower912]

Indeed

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Very impressed with the first 3 episodes of Andor.

[MU82]

Went in with trepidation but, like others, enjoyed the first three episodes, especially the third.

[Uncle Rico]

Episode 4 had a lot of Easter eggs for a show that was saying it wouldn't.  It didn't distract from the story but interesting nonetheless. 

5 stories are in-play and thought they're melding together nicely

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Episode 4 had a lot of Easter eggs for a show that was saying it wouldn't.  It didn't distract from the story but interesting nonetheless. 

5 stories are in-play and thought they're melding together nicely

I didn't even notice the Easter Eggs until I saw people discussing them online.  Then I rewatched episode 4 to spot them for myself.

Overall, strong writing and acting.  Lots of tension within both the Empire and the Rebellion.

[Uncle Rico]

Episode 6 was a great payoff.  Only one quibble and that comes towards the end but overall, best of the TV series so far