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MuggsyB

I'll keep my goals and opinions to myself on this one because I'll be accused of being irrational but what do you expect from MU Hoops through April 2026?   In other words:  NCAA appearances?  S16's or better? An F4?  Championship contenders?  Life is short and I will shrink at some point. I feel like we need to have a greater sense of urgency but I'll be happy to read what our experts have to say.

Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 22, 2021, 07:11:20 PM
I'll keep my goals and opinions to myself on this one because I'll be accused of being irrational but what do you expect from MU Hoops through April 2026?   In other words:  NCAA appearances?  S16's or better? An F4?  Championship contenders?  Life is short and I will shrink at some point. I feel like we need to have a greater sense of urgency but I'll be happy to read what our experts have to say.
MU plays in a very competitive level conference . My expectation is our program would be consistently in the top 3 of the conference . If we can achieve that level of success over the next 5 years , the tournament success will follow .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 22, 2021, 07:18:22 PM
MU plays in a very competitive level conference . My expectation is our program would be consistently in the top 3 of the conference . If we can achieve that level of success over the next 5 years , the tournament success will follow .

I think we're in the same ballpark.  I feel the switch needs to be turned quickly Herman.  I'm quite sick of mediocrity but am hopeful Shaka will turn this around.

We R Final Four

I don't know an MU fan who isn't.

warriorchick

I think Muggsy may have shattered Heisy's record for most threads started.
Have some patience, FFS.

MUfan12

Five years? 3 NCAA, 1 NIT. At least one trip to a Sweet 16.

Will be some real growing pains these next two seasons but then crap gets real in a hurry.

Dr. Blackheart

#6
Quote from: MUfan12 on August 22, 2021, 09:47:58 PM
Five years? 3 NCAA, 1 NIT. At least one trip to a Sweet 16.

Will be some real growing pains these next two seasons but then crap gets real in a hurry.

Year 1: Top 40 in defense. Make NIT at least. Top half of Big East. Win the transfer market post-season.

Year 2: Top 40 in offense and defense. Top 3 in Big East. BET semis. Win one game in NCAA's

Year 3: Compete for a BE championship (1 or 2 in regular season or BET). Win 2 in NCAAs. Top hs recruiting class in conference to start reload.

Year 4 and 5: We are off.

Year 6: Replace Shaka.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

1: Terrible record but you can see the pieces coming together and getting better as the season goes on
2: NIT, maybe sneak into the NCAAs
3: NCAAs, high enough seed that we are expected to win our first game
4: NCAAs, high enough seed that we are expected to make the Sweet 16
5: Step back from year 4 but still make the NCAAs
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Markusquette

Make the NCAA tournament 3 years and hopefully make a little run in one of those appearances. I think this next year will be fun to see a new product but results that aren't anything special. Maybe around .500 or a little above? Guard play is going to be a big question mark.

tower912

Growth and foundation work first year.

Second year team bubble watch.

Third through 5th solidly in.

With one caveat.   Player movement is very fluid and we have no idea who will be on the team in two years.
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MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 22, 2021, 10:53:30 PM
1: Terrible record but you can see the pieces coming together and getting better as the season goes on
2: NIT, maybe sneak into the NCAAs
3: NCAAs, high enough seed that we are expected to win our first game
4: NCAAs, high enough seed that we are expected to make the Sweet 16
5: Step back from year 4 but still make the NCAAs

This is pretty low-barrish, no? It's only slightly better than what the previous coach did, and it will lead to calls for Shaka-Wojo-Dukiet-Raymonds-Hickey to be fired by Year 5 (if not earlier).

I'm gonna be a tiny bit more optimistic:

2 national titles, 4 FFs, and one off year where we lose in the Sweet 16.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU82 on August 23, 2021, 07:33:17 AM
This is pretty low-barrish, no? It's only slightly better than what the previous coach did, and it will lead to calls for Shaka-Wojo-Dukiet-Raymonds-Hickey to be fired by Year 5 (if not earlier).

No, it's significantly better than what Wojo did in his first five years.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Uncle Rico

National title all 5 years.  Anything less is mediocrity
Guster is for Lovers

warriorchick

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 23, 2021, 07:57:24 AM
National title all 5 years.  Anything less is mediocrity failure

FIFY
Have some patience, FFS.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: warriorchick on August 23, 2021, 08:17:47 AM
FIFY

Thanks.  Truthfully, success in 5 years should include a Big East title and one deep run in March.  The tournament is a crapshoot but a Big East title barring injuries is a pretty bare minimum goal
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

#15
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 23, 2021, 08:21:08 AM
Thanks.  Truthfully, success in 5 years should include a Big East title and one deep run in March.  The tournament is a crapshoot but a Big East title barring injuries is a pretty bare minimum goal

I mean I suppose a conference title should be the goal every year, but Marquette has a total of 3 conference championships in the program's history.  And they currently play in the same conference as what you could argue has been the best college basketball program of the past decade.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: BLM on August 23, 2021, 09:39:53 AM
I mean I suppose a conference title should be the goal every year, but Marquette has a total of 3 conference championships in the program's history.  And they currently play in the same conference as what you could argue has been the best college basketball program of the past decade.

Yeah?  No disrespect, but this isn't the old Big East.  Time to step up
Guster is for Lovers

wadesworld

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 23, 2021, 09:49:35 AM
Yeah?  No disrespect, but this isn't the old Big East.  Time to step up

We spent a total of 7 years in the old Big East.  Again, 3 total conference titles in program history.

muwarrior69

Fire Shaka, we can't go on like this. Zero NCAA appearances. Cannot get out of the bottom half of the Big East. I thought Wojo was bad, but 5 more years of this I'm done.

I like 5 year plans.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: BLM on August 23, 2021, 09:39:53 AM
I mean I suppose a conference title should be the goal every year, but Marquette has a total of 3 conference championships in the program's history. 

What does this even mean?  They were independent for over 2/3rds of the 'history'

wadesworld

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 23, 2021, 11:46:57 AM
What does this even mean?  They were independent for over 2/3rds of the 'history'

It means they have 3 conference titles in the history of their program. Making a conference title in the next 5 years a "bare minimum" seems like setting yourself up to fail. Especially when Nova is at the level it is.

The Sultan

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 23, 2021, 11:46:57 AM
What does this even mean?  They were independent for over 2/3rds of the 'history'


They have been a member of a conference for 33 seasons.  Three conference regular season titles and one conference tournament championship.  That's pretty anemic.

They have been to more sweet 16s (5) in the same timeframe. 
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: BLM on August 23, 2021, 11:52:34 AM
It means they have 3 conference titles in the history of their program. Making a conference title in the next 5 years a "bare minimum" seems like setting yourself up to fail. Especially when Nova is at the level it is.

I worded that poorly.  I wouldn't call it a failure but a disappointment
Guster is for Lovers

Dickthedribbler

I think the program will win and will a lot over the next 3 years, but obviously the approach needs to change.

The offense needs to be more than a)setting high ball screens for our superstar and allowing him to go 1 on 3 every possession or b) firing up 25 foot off balance jumpers as the shot clock expires.

And probably more important guys need to play  defense correctly-----keeping their backs straight; moving their feet; balance and positioning, etc.

Wojo seemed to teach, or favor the Linda Ronstadt defense, and you won't beat anyone that way.

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