2021-22 NBA Thread: The Bucks are Reigning Champs

[MuggsyB]

Supposedly the Bucks were trying to get Kyrie when he went to the Cs.  Obviously a lot has changed since then.

Would love Harrison Barnes.

I expect Giannis to have his best season in 22-23.  He could get medieval, I'll just leave it at that.

[MuggsyB]

Call your shot.  Who will be the best NBA player in this draft?

[Uncle Rico]

Call your shot.  Who will be the best NBA player in this draft?

Chet Holmgren

[wadesworld]

Call your shot.  Who will be the best NBA player in this draft?

Ivey. Then Paolo.

[MuggsyB]

Ivey. Then Paolo.

Ivey has sort of this semi Ja Morant vibe. 

[Jockey]

Chet Holmgren

Bingo. He is a unicorn.

[MuggsyB]

Bingo. He is a unicorn.

He has the greatest upside.  But I'm still not completely sold.   Will he gain weight and be able to pick and pop?

[tower912]

Nobody posts up anymore.   Could be (nothing is guaranteed) the next Giannis.

[MuggsyB]

Nobody posts up anymore.   Could be (nothing is guaranteed) the next Giannis.

Pop?

Let's get serious Tower.  Perhaps you are trying to amuse me?

[tower912]

Nothing is guaranteed.   IMO, Homlgren's ceiling is close to Giannis.   Again, IMO, highest ceiling in the draft.

[JWags85]

Nothing is guaranteed.   IMO, Homlgren's ceiling is close to Giannis.   Again, IMO, highest ceiling in the draft.

Giannis was skinny but had a much bigger frame.  I don't see Holmgren being able to put on that much size.  He wont be 195 forever, but I think he's more likely to be built like Durant his whole career than fill out.

I'm still trying to figure out why Holmgren is the unicorn with all the upside and not Jabari Smith.  Smith is 6'11, a better shooter from outside, a more polished scoring game at this point, and is a good defender with potential to be even better.  He's got bounce, not like he's flat footed.  Is 2 inches less of height than Holmgren, and 3 inches of wingspan that massive of a difference?

I think Banchero is the surest shot, his game is completely NBA ready, but Jabari feels like KG 2.0 with a better jumper.

[tower912]

I hope the GM's agree and he falls to the Pistons.

[The Sultan]

Giannis was skinny but had a much bigger frame.  I don't see Holmgren being able to put on that much size.  He wont be 195 forever, but I think he's more likely to be built like Durant his whole career than fill out.

I'm still trying to figure out why Holmgren is the unicorn with all the upside and not Jabari Smith.  Smith is 6'11, a better shooter from outside, a more polished scoring game at this point, and is a good defender with potential to be even better.  He's got bounce, not like he's flat footed.  Is 2 inches less of height than Holmgren, and 3 inches of wingspan that massive of a difference?

I think Banchero is the surest shot, his game is completely NBA ready, but Jabari feels like KG 2.0 with a better jumper.

Yeah I'm picking Banchero or Smith. I actually think their upsides are higher than Holmgren's.

[MuggsyB]

Nothing is guaranteed.   IMO, Homlgren's ceiling is close to Giannis.   Again, IMO, highest ceiling in the draft.

Okay....let me gather myself.  I was in the middle of putting together a Greek salad.  You believe Holmgren's ceiling is "close" to Giannis?  Based on what exactly?  Being able to handle the ball is much different than attacking with ruthless force.  Giannis has elite athleticism.  I'm actually curious what he and Hakeem could have done if they had a basketball in their hands as a 6 yr old. 

[tower912]

It is an opinion.  Agree, disagree, no impact.

[MuggsyB]

It is an opinion.  Agree, disagree, no impact.

It's not an opinion.  It's a blatant attempt to irritate rational people.    That's fine Tower but I don't honestly think you believe this deep down.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Holmgren is going to be physically overmatched every night for the foreseeable future. Maybe he'll also create some mismatches on the offensive end but I'm not convinced. Maybe he'll eventually gain the weight and strength but looking at him I don't think it's a sure thing.

I think it's Ivey/Smith/Banchero in that order.

[tower912]

I do.  Nothing would make me happier in regards to the NBA draft than him falling to #5.   But Detroit can't get that lucky.

[ATL MU Warrior]

I do.  Nothing would make me happier in regards to the NBA draft than him falling to #5.   But Detroit can't get that lucky.

Yeah there is no way he's lasting that long.

[MuggsyB]

Holmgren is going to be physically overmatched every night for the foreseeable future. Maybe he'll also create some mismatches on the offensive end but I'm not convinced. Maybe he'll eventually gain the weight and strength but looking at him I don't think it's a sure thing.

I think it's Ivey/Smith/Banchero in that order.

Murray?  Ivey could be really special if he can find a consistent J  and gain some strength/weight imo.  Tier 1 speed and I think he can play both guard positions.   Elite elevation never hurts too.

[tower912]

Ivey goes at 4.   Detroit gets Murray.

[MuggsyB]

Mathurin is an interesting prospect.  He could be one of those guys, like Donovan Mitchell, that has a completely different game in the open floor.  He clearly has bounce.

[wadesworld]

Chet struggled with the physicality of Memphis and Alabama in the NCAA Tournament. NBA physicality is a bit of a step up...

[MuggsyB]

Will Davis be a stud or a bust?  Surprised most scouts have him ahead of Agbaji.

[JWags85]

Will Davis be a stud or a bust?  Surprised most scouts have him ahead of Agbaji.

Neither, i think he will just be a rotation guy