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MuggsyB

#2600
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2022, 05:15:06 AM
Maybe they can be shown how to write letters to complain about their. mistreatment.

Maybe.  I've never seen anything like it Tower.  It's literally every call and pretty much every player besides Horford.  Again, we all know there's a kot of complaining but this is different.  It's as if they expect all contact plays on both ends of the floor to go their way.  I'm honestly surprised the national media isn't on this nonsense.  The Van Gundy Brothers often give them a pass or conjure things out of thin air.  When JVG stated Williams didn't foul JFB on that late and-1 I was dumbfounded.  Breen corrected him after the replay which showed that he clearly got him on the elbow but old Jeff still wouldn't admit his mistake.  I'm just so sick of their garbage.  And Smart and Williams are the absolute worst and their crap shouldn't be permitted without teeing them up.

MU82

Quote from: forgetful on May 28, 2022, 12:49:33 AM
I don't understand how several of them didn't get T'd up. At one point Grant Williams was bitching at the refs incessantly, the coach pulled him, and he continued to berate a ref from the bench for an entire possession.

NBA refs are quite tolerant, especially late in close games. Although yes, certain players get punished for their reputations. Arguing similar to what leads to T's for Green (or led to T's for Rodman) doesn't to others.

But the Grant Williams situation you describe ... that was one last night where I said out loud, "I can't believe he's not getting T'd up."

The Celtics are an extremely unlikable team, and I'm hoping Jimmy gets enough help to send 'em packing tomorrow night.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


MuggsyB

BIg probs for Miami.  It needs to be within 8-10 points minimum bu halftime.

MuggsyB

Once again, JFB is getting 0.0000000 help.  I would have a rather animated discussion with the rest of this team if I was Spo.  I honestly don't know what more Jimmy can do.  Someone really needs to wake up for them to have a shot.

MuggsyB

What more can one man do??  Jimmy single handedly keeping Miami within range.

Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 29, 2022, 08:45:43 PM
What more can one man do??  Jimmy single handedly keeping Miami within range.
Heat only down 6 at half. This is a game.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Jockey

Tatum might wanna think about stopping falling on every shot and get back and play defense. Really hurting Boston's defense tonite.

MuggsyB

Jimmy has been extraordinary.  It really about whether he can get any help from any of Miami's guards.

MuggsyB

It's pretty clear Herro can't go and despite his big contract Spo doesn't trust Duncan R.

MuggsyB

Wow.  Surprised Jimmy pulled from. 3 there. 

The Sultan

He hit a very similar shot earlier in the game that both Jackson and Van Gundy praised. But since he missed, they had a different opinion on this one. I thought it was fine.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUfan12

I was fine with it. Miami was gassed. They wouldn't have had a great chance in OT if it got there.

MuggsyB

Quote from: User Name #251 on May 30, 2022, 05:37:27 AM
He hit a very similar shot earlier in the game that both Jackson and Van Gundy praised. But since he missed, they had a different opinion on this one. I thought it was fine.

I was fine with it but I do think Horford was back pedaling and he had a clear path to the rim.  You live with your best player taking that shot for sure but I really thought he would go strong to the bucket there.

MUBurrow

Yup yup. Feel like that shot was the basketball equivalent of scoring a late TD to go down one as a big underdog and then going for two.  For my money, the fact that he missed short is ironically kind of indicative of why it was a fine shot to take.

The Sultan

Lot of Twitter talk about Strup's three that was taken off the board but that seemed to be a good call.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

#2616
Quote from: User Name #251 on May 30, 2022, 09:43:20 AM
Lot of Twitter talk about Strup's three that was taken off the board but that seemed to be a good call.

Spo had some interesting comments on that.  It was clearly the right call but it was taken off the board after a significant period of time.  It did somewhat thwart the momentum they got after the shot was ruled good.  I'm also wondering if all oob plays are reviewable at any time?  Because I recall seeing many games where there are missed our of bounds calls.

forgetful

Quote from: User Name #251 on May 30, 2022, 09:43:20 AM
Lot of Twitter talk about Strup's three that was taken off the board but that seemed to be a good call.

The biggest question is why was it reviewed at all. There was no challenge. And in the Memphis vs. GSW series, they couldn't review an out of bounds call late in the game (clearly off Memphis) and said jump ball instead.

And while I think it was a good call, it was super close on whether his heel/foot ever did make contact with the actual line. I've seen several of those heel over the line, but good 3's because they decided it didn't touch, just hovered above the line.

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on May 30, 2022, 11:42:54 AM
The biggest question is why was it reviewed at all. There was no challenge. And in the Memphis vs. GSW series, they couldn't review an out of bounds call late in the game (clearly off Memphis) and said jump ball instead.

And while I think it was a good call, it was super close on whether his heel/foot ever did make contact with the actual line. I've seen several of those heel over the line, but good 3's because they decided it didn't touch, just hovered above the line.

I was wondering the same thing.  Is it because they look back on 3pt shots and whether they are behind the line? 

The Sultan

Quote from: forgetful on May 30, 2022, 11:42:54 AM
The biggest question is why was it reviewed at all. There was no challenge. And in the Memphis vs. GSW series, they couldn't review an out of bounds call late in the game (clearly off Memphis) and said jump ball instead.

And while I think it was a good call, it was super close on whether his heel/foot ever did make contact with the actual line. I've seen several of those heel over the line, but good 3's because they decided it didn't touch, just hovered above the line.

It's legit by the rules to review if they step on lines.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Shot was fine. He had Horford on his heels. Problem is he rushed it. Had plenty of time but he acted as if the clock was at about 2 and winding down. That's probably as open of a shot as they would've gotten, plus gives you time if you miss.

MU82

Disappointed in the series Bam had. Heat desperately needed him at his best.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on May 30, 2022, 01:53:45 PM
Shot was fine. He had Horford on his heels. Problem is he rushed it. Had plenty of time but he acted as if the clock was at about 2 and winding down. That's probably as open of a shot as they would've gotten, plus gives you time if you miss.

I think the shot was fine but if you really think about it when was the last time Jimmy pulled up from 3 off the dribble going downhill?   What I'm saying is there are different types of 3's and the most difficult is probably a triple off the dribble, in a semi-transtion opportunity, going relatively fast to stop and pop.  It's just not his game imo and wasn't a rhythm triple.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 30, 2022, 04:12:08 PM
I think the shot was fine but if you really think about it when was the last time Jimmy pulled up from 3 off the dribble going downhill? 

Yesterday in the first half I believe.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: User Name #251 on May 30, 2022, 05:01:53 PM
Yesterday in the first half I believe.

He hit one in the first half from the right side that I suppose was semi-similar.  I thought this was more of a transition triple.  I'm just pissed the Celtics won.

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