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MuggsyB

Crazy/Ugly G5 in Miami.  Heat 5-33 from distance.

MuggsyB

7 for 45??   Whatever happened to a diversified offense?   That was an abysmal performance by Miami. 

Who ya got?  Dubs or Celtics?

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 25, 2022, 10:08:39 PM
7 for 45??   Whatever happened to a diversified offense?   That was an abysmal performance by Miami. 

Who ya got?  Dubs or Celtics?

I'll wait until Boston actually wins this series to make a prediction for the next round. The Heat have already shown they can win in Boston.

But yes, Miami was a disaster tonight, especially in the second half.
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JWags85

That was one of the worst basketball games I've watched in awhile.

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on May 25, 2022, 10:25:13 PM
I'll wait until Boston actually wins this series to make a prediction for the next round. The Heat have already shown they can win in Boston.

But yes, Miami was a disaster tonight, especially in the second half.

The Miami backcourt starters were 0-15 and 0-11 from three.  That will never happen again in NBA history.  In general the Conf Finals have been duddish and I didn't expect that.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 25, 2022, 10:31:57 PM
The Miami backcourt starters were 0-15 and 0-11 from three.  That will never happen again in NBA history.  In general the Conf Finals have been duddish and I didn't expect that.

I did.  Dallas is an ok team.  Golden State is much better. The Heat and Celtics are boring and ugly
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MuggsyB

Is there something Stan Van Gundy adds to the broadcast that I'm missing?

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

When I look at the NBA today I'm honestly wondering if Duncan, Shaq, maybe Kareem, could play their game?  Obviously, no one playing now could guard them but they wouldn't be able to guard the perimeter.  Here's the thing though:  when  most teams are bricking threes they really don't have option B.  Even the Bucks with Giannis can't win vs elite teams without draining 10+ triples.


forgetful

Old School Klay showed up to close out the series.

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on May 26, 2022, 10:20:09 PM
Old School Klay showed up to close out the series.

Big probs for Boston or Miami if Klay is old Klay. 

tower912

GS gets healthy, replaces KD with Wiggins, goes back to the finals.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

lawdog77

Quote from: tower912 on May 27, 2022, 06:36:28 AM
GS gets healthy, replaces KD with Wiggins, goes back to the finals.
It's scary when Steph is the 5th leading scorer, and they still win by double digits. Wiggins showing why he was a top pick. A much better player than his dad, Mitchell.

tower912

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Quote from: MuggsyB on May 26, 2022, 08:26:19 PM
When I look at the NBA today I'm honestly wondering if Duncan, Shaq, maybe Kareem, could play their game?  Obviously, no one playing now could guard them but they wouldn't be able to guard the perimeter.  Here's the thing though:  when  most teams are bricking threes they really don't have option B.  Even the Bucks with Giannis can't win vs elite teams without draining 10+ triples.

That has been discussed with regularity.    Today's game does not lend itself to post ups or physical post defense.    They would have to adapt their games, and their teammates would have to adapt, too.   IMO, they are all talented enough that if they had been raised in the culture that has lead to today's game, i.e. bigs having to be multi-dimensional and handle the ball, they would have been fine.     

The ones that I question are the Elgin Baylor's, the Oscar Robertson's.   I don't know if the original power guards could dominate in today's NBA.    6'5 and 220 is not big for a guard anymore.       I think they would be successful, but today everybody is doing what they did.

I also wonder about the bruisers.    The Oakley's, Mason's, Mahorn's, Rambis's, Wallace's.    Could they find a place? 

Conversely, what does Ralph Sampson with good knees look like in today's NBA?

Or a player that was maligned at the time, Brad Sellers? 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

forgetful

I think the Celtics need to close out their series tonight.

Every extra day of rest that the Warriors get will make it more difficult for the Celtics to win.

JWags85

Quote from: tower912 on May 27, 2022, 06:36:28 AM
GS gets healthy, replaces KD with Wiggins, goes back to the finals.

But also drafted Jordan Poole.  Those together made up the difference, as opposed to a one for one swap.  Also remarkable that all this is being done with a #2 pick who hasn't really played since he was drafted.

While we knew they were never gonna win (and it only went to 5 so GS could have another home game), what a credit to Luka that they even got there.  That Mavs roster is so pedestrian.  Who is their second best player, Brunson?  He's a nice piece, but he's not a second star on a championship team good.  Neither is Dinwiddie post injuries.  They have some work to do in the offseason

MuggsyB

Quote from: JWags85 on May 27, 2022, 10:26:37 AM
But also drafted Jordan Poole.  Those together made up the difference, as opposed to a one for one swap.  Also remarkable that all this is being done with a #2 pick who hasn't really played since he was drafted.

While we knew they were never gonna win (and it only went to 5 so GS could have another home game), what a credit to Luka that they even got there.  That Mavs roster is so pedestrian.  Who is their second best player, Brunson?  He's a nice piece, but he's not a second star on a championship team good.  Neither is Dinwiddie post injuries.  They have some work to do in the offseason

Ya......it's not just Wiggins replacing Durant.  Poole has been enormous and Looney is a much, much, better player.  Their  other bench players are also better than those they had had with Durant.  Heck, Juan can't even get on the floor and he's pretty damn good as a  11/12th guy.  They seemingly have 8 guys who can drain triples with Green/Looney.

MuggsyB

It's too bad Middleton got hurt because I really think Bucks/Warriors would be a compelling Finals. Giannis would be an absolute match-up nightmare for them but as we saw vs Boston the Bucks don't defend the triple well.

tower912

Report out of Miami says that 4 starters and Herro would all be sitting if it were the regular season.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on May 27, 2022, 03:01:51 PM
Report out of Miami says that 4 starters and Herro would all be sitting if it were the regular season.

Weird.  Whatever happened to durability?

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 27, 2022, 03:12:26 PM
Weird.  Whatever happened to durability?

???  Injuries have always been part of the league.
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 27, 2022, 03:12:26 PM
Weird.  Whatever happened to durability?

3 seasons in 20 months. Bodies need recovery time especially in a sport as taxing as hoops.

cheebs09

Quote from: User Name #251 on May 27, 2022, 03:23:13 PM
???  Injuries have always been part of the league.

Also, I don't think the bar to sit out a Regular Season game is all that high anymore. Not saying in a bad way, just that's not really much of a barometer at this point.

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