2021-22 NBA Thread: The Bucks are Reigning Champs

[MUBBau]

Juan Anderson, NBA Champion

[MuggsyB]

If you ask the 10,000 smartest basketball people in the world who is better between Durant and Wiggins, all 10,000 would say Durant. To say Durant's a hell of a player would be an understatement.

But Steph and the Warriors don't need Durant to win titles.

Oh, he made them better and he made winning more likely, but Steph also won with Harrison Barnes and now Andrew Wiggins playing that position.

This season, and these playoffs, Wiggins has done exactly what the Warriors needed him to do. It was impossible not to be impressed with him.

Meanwhile, Durant has won bupkis without Steph. And it was his choice to leave.

As for Steph, this must have been extremely satisfying for him. What a career.

Oh, and Steve Kerr apparently can coach a little, too.

Wiggins was very good defensively but it's remarkable Curry was able to absolutely carry this team to another title because Klay was pretty much a mess and Draymond had two good games. Kerr is really good and Curry is beyond special. 

[MuggsyB]

BtW Iguodola getting the MVP that one year was a complete joke.  Curry should have two.

[wadesworld]

Steph > LBJ.

I said it.

[MuggsyB]

Steph > LBJ.

I said it.

That's tough......but it's certainly worth discussing and his resume is quite strong.    You do have to wonder what Lebron and Durant are thinking right now. 

[withoutbias]

If you ask the 10,000 smartest basketball people in the world who is better between Durant and Wiggins, all 10,000 would say Durant. To say Durant's a hell of a player would be an understatement.

But Steph and the Warriors don't need Durant to win titles.

Oh, he made them better and he made winning more likely, but Steph also won with Harrison Barnes and now Andrew Wiggins playing that position.

This season, and these playoffs, Wiggins has done exactly what the Warriors needed him to do. It was impossible not to be impressed with him.

Meanwhile, Durant has won bupkis without Steph. And it was his choice to leave.

As for Steph, this must have been extremely satisfying for him. What a career.

Oh, and Steve Kerr apparently can coach a little, too.

Yet Durant was the best player on those Warriors teams by far.

[Jockey]

He's truly unbelievable.  I don't think it's blasphemous to put him in the top 10 all-time and perhaps top 5?

I think he cemented his place in the Top 10. I have no problem putting him ahead of a great player like Durant.

Curry was not just a great player. He changed the game of professional basketball. Very few guys have ever done that.

Top 5 is still to high, though.

[Jockey]

Yet Durant was the best player on those Warriors teams by far.

No.

[MuggsyB]

I remember when Mike Lucas said in '08 before the Davidson/Weasel S16 game something like "one guy can't beat a team like the Badgers".  Uhh....nice try Lucas.

[wadesworld]

I think he cemented his place in the Top 10. I have no problem putting him ahead of a great player like Durant.

Curry was not just a great player. He changed the game of professional basketball. Very few guys have ever done that.

Top 5 is still to high, though.

The dude just won a title with Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins as the second and third best players on his team. 4th title. LBJ has lost titles with Wade and Bosh on his team and has never won a title without another top 10 player in the NBA at the peak of their game. He's done more with less than LBJ has ever done. So if LBJ is thought of as top 2 and maybe 1...

Steph is unquestionably top 5 ever.

[MuggsyB]

No.

Ya...that's kind of where I'm at simply because of his size.  But he's gotten better as a defender.  Pound for pound and inch for inch though?  Curry is #1.  Remember, if you didn't know who this guy was and he walked into an open gym he doesn't look like a physical freak.  He actually is underrated, I agree with forgetful.

[MuggsyB]

The dude just won a title with Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins as the second and third best players on his team. 4th title. LBJ has lost titles with Wade and Bosh on his team and has never won a title without another top 10 player in the NBA at the peak of their game. He's done more with less than LBJ has ever done. So if LBJ is thought of as top 2 and maybe 1...

Steph is unquestionably top 5 ever.

It's a compelling argument.  I'm still kind of in disbelief but this also cements Kerr's legacy.

[MuggsyB]

Also, we shouldn't forget Lebron's performance in the 2011 Finals that deprived Wade his 4th ring. 

[PointWarrior]

unnatural carnal knowledge the Celtics .  Bucks were the better team with Middleton healthy.

[MuggsyB]

unnatural carnal knowledge the Celtics .  Bucks were the better team with Middleton healthy.

Agreed but I still think the Bucks need make a few moves. 

[Johnny B]

sam is a puss. never took a shot in all his garbage time in the play offs. it was hot potato when he touched it

[wadesworld]

sam is a puss. never took a shot in all his garbage time in the play offs. it was hot potato when he touched it

Plays the game the right way.

[Jockey]

The dude just won a title with Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins as the second and third best players on his team. 4th title. LBJ has lost titles with Wade and Bosh on his team and has never won a title without another top 10 player in the NBA at the peak of their game. He's done more with less than LBJ has ever done. So if LBJ is thought of as top 2 and maybe 1...

Steph is unquestionably top 5 ever.

I respect your opinion - but I disagree.

[MuggsyB]

Who's your non-Curry Top 5?

Is it:

Jordan
Jabbar
James
Bird
Magic

?

[forgetful]

Who's your non-Curry Top 5?

Is it:

Jordan
Jabbar
James
Bird
Magic

?

My phone personal opinion. Jordan a clear number 1. Turn a decent number of all time elite players in the 2-10 slots that one could argue one way or another on. Curry you s in that group.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Steve Kerr HOF

[The Sultan]

If you ask the 10,000 smartest basketball people in the world who is better between Durant and Wiggins, all 10,000 would say Durant. To say Durant's a hell of a player would be an understatement.

But Steph and the Warriors don't need Durant to win titles.

Oh, he made them better and he made winning more likely, but Steph also won with Harrison Barnes and now Andrew Wiggins playing that position.

This season, and these playoffs, Wiggins has done exactly what the Warriors needed him to do. It was impossible not to be impressed with him.

Meanwhile, Durant has won bupkis without Steph. And it was his choice to leave.

As for Steph, this must have been extremely satisfying for him. What a career.

Oh, and Steve Kerr apparently can coach a little, too.

So you are saying Durant is better than Wiggins, but GSW is better than any other team that Durant's been on.

Hard hitting analysis right there.

[MuggsyB]

So you are saying Durant is better than Wiggins, but GSW is better than any other team that Durant's been on.

Hard hitting analysis right there.

Here's some analysis:

Boston had much more success guarding Durant than they did Curry in the playoffs.  The 2nd best offensive player on Golden State was Wiggins, whereas Uncle Drew was the 2nd best player on Brooklyn. 

[The Sultan]

Here's some analysis:

Boston had much more success guarding Durant than they did Curry in the playoffs.  The 2nd best offensive player on Golden State was Wiggins, whereas Uncle Drew was the 2nd best player on Brooklyn. 

Cool!

[MuggsyB]

Cool!

That's your retort?   "Cool"?