Shut the Covid board down?

[Galway Eagle]

Unvaccinated folks need to take their own precautions. Don't look to others to protect you. The vaccine is available for those who want it, free of charge, over the age of 12. Believe the science, its real.
BTW, please don't make assumptions as to what I did or didn't do, or how seriously I dealt with the thread of covid over the past 15 months. You don't know me. Be assured that I, my staff, and all patients were kept informed as to office procedures, protocol, for the good and betterment of all concerned. While we were not able to work remotely, I am happy to report that I, and my staff all remained healthy throughout the pandemic while providing a safe office for patients to receive care, even while working within 12 inches of patient's mouth and nose, hey?

You're not the only one who worked in a risky environment, my mom and sister are both nurses who volunteered in Covid wards, happy for your staff but that "even while working within 12 inches of a patient's mouth and nose" line doesn't resonate with me as getting you some type of clout or brownie points.

Bottom line is you're repeating a line that "it's over when you're vaccinated" and that "you don't get seriously ill". My personal experience is very different and effected my family in pretty awful ways, in fact I would almost guarantee my brother in law suffered permanent brain damage due to the motorcycle accident he was in when his fever spiked (how he was found to have Covid), the asphyxia from lack of oxygen, or brain damage from multiple >105 fevers, all after he was vaccinated. So of course i am going to passionately argue that you are flat out wrong with your simple logic as opposed to leaving leeway for the rare but possible instances where vaccinated people get ill. The data might be on your side, but stats mean nothing to the individual and in my case that was proven to be the case.

My assessment of your attitude towards this was based on your posting history throughout the pandemic, I did not suggest that you and your staff, were not taking Covid seriously as an office throughout the whole pandemic.

[pbiflyer]

Arnold George Hauser (1888–1966), American baseball player
Arnold Hauser (1892–1978), Hungarian art historian
Bodo Hauser (1946–2004), German journalist and writer
Cole Hauser (born 1975), American actor
Dwight Hauser (1911–1969), screenwriter, actor, and producer, and father of actor Wings Hauser
Eduard Hauser (cross-country skier) (b. 1948), Swiss former cross-country skier
Eduard Hauser (soldier) (1895–1961), Generalleutnant in the Wehrmacht during World War II
Erich Hauser (1930–2004), German sculptor
Friedrich Hauser (1859–1917), German classical archaeologist and art historian
Gayelord Hauser (1895–1984), German-American nutritionist and author
Henri Hauser (1866–1946), Algerian-born French historian
Hermann Hauser (born 1948), Austrian entrepreneur and cofounder of Acorn Computers
Hermann Hauser, Sr. (1882–1952), German luthier
Julius Hauser (1854–1920), NYS Treasurer 1907-1908
Kaspar Hauser (1812–1833), German foundling
Lisa Hauser (born 1993), Austrian biathlete
Marc Hauser (born 1959), American ethologist found guilty of scientific misconduct
Otto Hauser (1874–1932), Swiss pre-historian
Philip Hauser, demographer
Samuel Thomas Hauser (1833–1914), American politician, Governor of the Montana Territory
Stjepan Hauser (born 1986), Croatian cellist
Walter Hauser (1837–1902), Swiss politician and member of the Swiss Federal Council from 1888 to 1902
Wings Hauser aka Gerald Dwight Hauser (born 1947), American actor, director, and screenwriter

But seriously, I would concur with starting a new topic in the Superbar, and enforcing the no politics rule. If I double my donation, do I get 2 votes?

What a completely useless reply. You failed to note which of those Hausers wrote letters......

But yeah, like the idea of a single thread in the Superbar. 

[Billy Hoyle]

I had the opportunity to visit the bar I went to the weekend before the shutdowns for the first time (post-hike/and ski hangout on Mt. Hood). So good to be back. Upon entering there's a sign requiring masks UNLESS you show proof of your vaccination. We ate outside (an area they did not have before). We kept our masks despite being able to go maskless when we went inside to order a beer and use the restroom but it was nice being able to be outside without the mask on. Very few masks on the hiking trails too.

Another of my favorite beer bars had taken down the plexiglass around the bar. Still not bellying up but the bartender said he didn't feel like he was a zoo animal behind a cage anymore. Masks still required inside to order.

I think the restaurant industry is going to see some permanent changes from the adjustments they made.
-no more physical menus, using the QR codes instead
-more outdoor seating and doing it year-round in more mild climates. The city started a program last summer where restaurants could take up parking spaces in front of their businesses and it has proven very popular. One group of restaurants has built out along the entire block.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Every restaurant I have been to in the past week or two has had paper menus. I doubt that’s changing.

[pbiflyer]

Every restaurant I have been to in the past week or two has had paper menus. I doubt that’s changing.

We were at a venue this past weekend with both QR code and paper menu. I opted for paper menu.
Now get off my lawn!

It will be interesting to see what changes persist and which do not. Florida passed legislation permanently allowing drinks to go. Why anyone would do that is beyond me. It has to be sealed and placed in the trunk. An expensive watery drink with my to go dinner isn’t my thing. I don’t see restaurants going out of their way to do all required for this.
QR code menus are likely to stay as is remote ordering via smart phones.

[Lennys Tap]

I would shut the board down and start a topic in the Superbar.  And enforce the "no politics" rule in the process.

The Covid Board has been the de facto Political Board almost from its inception. Some good information, no doubt - valuable even. But with very few exceptions, dripping in  politics of the lowest common denominator - the I’m good, you’re bad, I’m smart, you’re stupid kind - ad finitum, ad nauseum. Why stop now?

[jesmu84]

I would shut the board down and start a topic in the Superbar.  And enforce the "no politics" rule in the process.

This is probably the best compromise

[Jockey]

Every restaurant I have been to in the past week or two has had paper menus. I doubt that’s changing.

Same here, but the menues were not the full range as before the outbreak. Won’t it be harder to keep paper menues once they go back to their full slate of food and drink?

[rocky_warrior]

The Covid Board has been the de facto Political Board almost from its inception. Some good information, no doubt - valuable even. But with very few exceptions, dripping in  politics of the lowest common denominator - the I’m good, you’re bad, I’m smart, you’re stupid kind - ad finitum, ad nauseum. Why stop now?

Ah Lenny, you're getting good at this victim stuff.

Because vaccination rates are up, cases and deaths are at their lowest level (in the US) since it all went to hell in late March 2020.

Folks are right "it's not over" - it's not completely over and may never be completely gone.  But this board has probably lived the majority of it's useful life.

[JWags85]

Ah Lenny, you're getting good at this victim stuff.

Did I miss where he claimed to be persecuted?  There is crap flinging from all over the spectrum, in almost every thread, I’m sure he’d gladly admit plenty of it came from people he was more closely aligned with politically on the surface.

It will be interesting to see what changes persist and which do not. Florida passed legislation permanently allowing drinks to go. Why anyone would do that is beyond me. It has to be sealed and placed in the trunk. An expensive watery drink with my to go dinner isn’t my thing. I don’t see restaurants going out of their way to do all required for this.
QR code menus are likely to stay as is remote ordering via smart phones.

That’s so weird.  Especially the trunk thing.  I’ve had multiple to-go drink packages  that were done great.  Some had individual components with directions to put together yourself for mules.  Some had stuff like margaritas in a reusable plastic shaker that was sealed so it didn’t spill but told you to add ice so it didn’t get watered down.  It was a great way for restaurants to be creative and also convert some of their highest margin items to take out

QR code menus are great, but I think it really depends on clientele.  Went to a few younger demo, hip spots and it was seamless.  Went to a few places in the burbs that had it, and heard multiple tables still asking for paper.

I will say, I’d like to see QR code menus stay WITH restaurants willingly supplying WiFi credentials.   They go hand in hand for me.  Funny going to many places abroad and it’s pretty standard to have the password on a menu or have it open with just an email needed to log on, where even in places like NYC, it’s a discouraged secret kept under wraps

[rocky_warrior]

Did I miss where he claimed to be persecuted?  There is crap flinging from all over the spectrum, in almost every thread, I’m sure he’d gladly admit plenty of it came from people he was more closely aligned with politically on the surface.

I guess he is allowed hyperbole and I am not?  See below.

The Covid Board has been the de facto Political Board almost from its inception.

[Lennys Tap]

Ah Lenny, you're getting good at this victim stuff.

Rocky

This isn’t hyperbolic. It’s making up something that isn’t there.

[JWags85]

I guess he is allowed hyperbole and I am not?  See below.

The Covid Board has been the de facto Political Board almost from its inception.

I mean, I remember very early on discussions about politics being caveated with (paraphrasing) “well there is a political aspect to much of the COVID response, so we will allow it within reason”.  I don’t think he is wrong at all with that statement, it wasn’t even hyperbolic IMO.  While it was often civil and still productive, the COVID board WAS heavily political from the jump.

[rocky_warrior]

Rocky

This isn’t hyperbolic. It’s making up something that isn’t there.

Got it.  You were just lodging a complaint. 

I mean, I remember very early on discussions about politics being caveated with (paraphrasing) “well there is a political aspect to much of the COVID response, so we will allow it within reason”.  I don’t think he is wrong at all with that statement, it wasn’t even hyperbolic IMO.  While it was often civil and still productive, the COVID board WAS heavily political from the jump.

There was certainly a lot of politicking around covid (not necessarily here), and people brought it up (here). T'was one of the dangers of the board - and we tried to moderate it a bit.  But my point was that there have been political undertones all along.  Now, it's mostly politics.  I don't want to moderate that.

[warriorchick]

I will say, I’d like to see QR code menus stay WITH restaurants willingly supplying WiFi credentials.   They go hand in hand for me.  Funny going to many places abroad and it’s pretty standard to have the password on a menu or have it open with just an email needed to log on, where even in places like NYC, it’s a discouraged secret kept under wraps

I was at a place once where they wouldn't give me the password. The bartender insisted on typing the password into my phone himself.

[Jockey]

I was at a place once where they wouldn't give me the password. The bartender insisted on typing the password into my phone himself.

And you didn’t get up and leave?

[pbiflyer]

I was at a place once where they wouldn't give me the password. The bartender insisted on typing the password into my phone himself.

When I was a bouncer, I would card the cute girls. Just saying....

[Jockey]

When I was a bouncer, I would card the cute girls. Just saying....

Smart man. If only they knew the lengths we would go to,........

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Smart man. If only they knew the lengths we would go to,........

Enter a wifi password, of course...

[Jockey]

Show some self-discipline, people. If you think the Covid board should be closed, don’t click on it.

[JWags85]

Show some self-discipline, people. If you think the Covid board should be closed, don’t click on it.

This is hysterical

[Jockey]

This is hysterical

The 1st sentence was tongue-in-cheek. The 2nd was semi(?)-serious.

But it still amazes me that people are offended. No one forces them to either click or read.

[MU82]

But it still amazes me that people are offended. No one forces them to either click or read.

Well, some Scoopers might like to read what a few folks actually have to say about COVID-19. We do have people who have some expertise on medical issues, science, etc. Plus, sometimes even non-experts find interesting articles to post that give genuine insight into what's what. But upon opening the COVID board, what those interested Scoopers mostly find are political arguments. I'm guilty, as are you, as are at least a dozen or two others.

Speaking only for myself, if the mods ruled at midnight tonight that any political comments on the COVID board would result in a week Scoopcation, I'd refrain from making political comments ... or I'd accept the consequences.

[pbiflyer]

Enter a wifi password, of course...

Today’s winner of the Internet!

[Hards Alumni]

Thankfully, the US appears to be on the brink of "containing" Covid.  The world has a ways to go, and is worthy of discussion.

BUT, it appears there are several ("both sides") that just want to bicker  about politics. 

I'm leaning towards making the board read-only at this point, but willing to consider options. 

Regardless, I've enjoyed chatting and learning here over the past year.  Cheers!

Leave it open, but smite the political bickering with the week off button more liberally.