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JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2022, 04:54:05 PM
This, of course. Typical goalpost shifting and deflection.

The president of the United States incited a violent coup against the U.S. government? Yeah ... but what about the BLM protests in Portland?!?!

Oh good, almost went a whole day without that being injected into another sports thread.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on February 02, 2022, 05:03:33 PM
Oh good, almost went a whole day without that being injected into another sports thread.

I know you preferred the immediate changing of the subject to human rights violations in China, Wags.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2022, 05:05:42 PM
I know you preferred the immediate changing of the subject to human rights violations in China, Wags.

Equally unnecessary, but that poster doesn't inject it daily in a myriad of different threads.  Its not saving our great republic by bringing it up incessantly.  Its just baiting the same tired arguments.

Pakuni

Quote from: jesmu84 on February 02, 2022, 04:41:03 PM
So now Flores and Jackson claiming financial incentive to lose games. When does this start to conflict with sports betting interests?

No idea whether Flores is telling the truth, but I'd tend to trust him over Stephen Ross.
On the other hand, Hue Jackson is a phony and con man who's spent the past few years blaming everybody and anything but himself for his abysmal performance in Cleveland.
If Hue is now saying his teams were so bad because he threw games in return for compensation, he's confessing to a federal crime.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/224

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on February 02, 2022, 05:10:51 PM
Equally unnecessary, but that poster doesn't inject it daily in a myriad of different threads.  Its not saving our great republic by bringing it up incessantly.  Its just baiting the same tired arguments.

Thanks for policing Scoop so semi-thoroughly.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2022, 05:29:38 PM
Thanks for policing Scoop so semi-thoroughly.

You're an inquisitive, knowledgeable, and well read guy, you can do better than regurgitating the same warmed over talking points where not needed.  And then giving the same lame sarcastic response about policing whenever you're called out on it.

When lawdog starts repeating "what about China" centric comments  repeatedly, maybe then it would merit notice as well (shrug)

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on February 02, 2022, 05:11:00 PM
No idea whether Flores is telling the truth, but I'd tend to trust him over Stephen Ross.
On the other hand, Hue Jackson is a phony and con man who's spent the past few years blaming everybody and anything but himself for his abysmal performance in Cleveland.
If Hue is now saying his teams were so bad because he threw games in return for compensation, he's confessing to a federal crime.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/224

Tanking (now that betting has been legalized) is just another form of fixing games. It needs to be punished and any owner who monetarily encourages his team to lose should be banned for life from the NFL.

Of course, it is one of the easiest problems in sports to fix (NFL). Actually there are 2 ways to do it as the only reason for tanking is a higher draft pick.

1. Make the draft a true lottery with all 32 teams having an equal shot at the #1 pick. Losing and mismanagement should not be rewarded.

Or

2. Abolish the draft and institute a hard salary cap for rookies. Every team has the same budget to sign rookies. Put a 30 day limit on the process and any rookie signed after 30 days only gets the league minimum.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jockey on February 02, 2022, 05:36:16 PM
Tanking (now that betting has been legalized) is just another form of fixing games. It needs to be punished and any owner who monetarily encourages his team to lose should be banned for life from the NFL.

Of course, it is one of the easiest problems in sports to fix (NFL). Actually there are 2 ways to do it as the only reason for tanking is a higher draft pick.

1. Make the draft a true lottery with all 32 teams having an equal shot at the #1 pick. Losing and mismanagement should not be rewarded.

Or

2. Abolish the draft and institute a hard salary cap for rookies. Every team has the same budget to sign rookies. Put a 30 day limit on the process and any rookie signed after 30 days only gets the league minimum.

The second idea, of course, is a non-starter.  The draft is one of the NFL's largest non-game properties
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on February 02, 2022, 05:32:34 PM
You're an inquisitive, knowledgeable, and well read guy, you can do better than regurgitating the same warmed over talking points where not needed.  And then giving the same lame sarcastic response about policing whenever you're called out on it.

When lawdog starts repeating "what about China" centric comments  repeatedly, maybe then it would merit notice as well (shrug)

Because I respect the police, I'll give you the last word.

Go Marquette!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GB Warrior

Can we pause from the serious topics to laugh at the Vikings biffing their pursuit of Harbaugh?

Pakuni

Harbaugh rejects the Vikings, says he's staying at Michigan.

lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2022, 05:05:42 PM
I know you preferred the immediate changing of the subject to human rights violations in China, Wags.
怎么样


Jockey

Quote from: GB Warrior on February 02, 2022, 06:32:22 PM
Can we pause from the serious topics to laugh at the Vikings biffing their pursuit of Harbaugh?

Assuming Harbaugh wanted more control over the roster than the Queens were willing to give him?

Oh, well..., lots more white guys to pick from.


MU82

Are we sure that Harbaugh wasn't using the Vikings just to suck more $$$ out of the Maize & Blue?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2022, 07:12:44 PM
Are we sure that Harbaugh wasn't using the Vikings just to suck more $$$ out of the Maize & Blue?

Yes
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

nyg

#4342
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 03, 2022, 07:16:42 PM
Jags continue to do Jags things

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/03/report-byron-leftwich-is-expected-to-pull-out-of-consideration-for-jaguars-head-coach/

Demeco Ryans pulled out of job interviews and back to 49ers
Patrick Graham pulled out of job interviews and back to Giants
Now Leftwich pulled out of job interviews and back to Bucs

All within two days of Flores suit........

Pakuni

Jags going with Doug Pederson.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on February 03, 2022, 09:32:30 PM
Jags going with Doug Pederson.

Woooooooooowwwwwwwwww... Why tho?

Uncle Rico

It's has been qwhite the hiring season thus far
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

The Jags hamstrung themselves with sticking with Baalke so a lot of up and comers stayed away.  But Pederson isn't terrible by any means.  I think the problem is that they are simply a dysfunctional organization so whomever they hired is likely not to succeed.

(But I would have said the same thing about the Bengals three years ago.)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUBurrow

Why did Washington wait like 2 years to announce the new name of their team, and then hold the reveal two days before their owner was scheduled to appear before Congress for being a total creep? 

forgetful

Quote from: MUBurrow on February 04, 2022, 09:20:38 AM
Why did Washington wait like 2 years to announce the new name of their team, and then hold the reveal two days before their owner was scheduled to appear before Congress for being a total creep?

Maybe so the absurdly bad new logo and brand name would get lost in the other bad news.

tower912

I said it earlier.   Going from WFT to WTF.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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