2021-2022 NFL Season

[MU82]

Changed their name from WFT to WTF.

Very good, my friend! I might have to steal that sometime -- and I'll of course credit you if I do.

As for the hullaballoo ... as I'm not a Washington sports fan, the new name/logo/etc does not bother me. It does not inspire me. It really means nothing to me. Just as MU being The Gold for a week probably didn't bother many people in Washington, D.C.

[cheebs09]

Their intro video is so 90s too.  But this is also the league that hauled out the "let's get ready to rumble" guy for the NFC championship game kick off this weekend.  So maybe that's what they are trying for?

I was most struck by how much the intro video featured the old nickname. Even including the song.

This looks like a bad Madden Create-A-Team.

[Hards Alumni]

Their intro video is so 90s too.  But this is also the league that hauled out the "let's get ready to rumble" guy for the NFC championship game kick off this weekend.  So maybe that's what they are trying for?

Doesn't LA use Michael Buffer at every home game?  I think it's sort of a tradition they're trying to create...

but it's stupid.

[Billy Hoyle]

The Washington Commanders is the most generic nickname.  And this logo?  Two years for this???

McLovin on Dan Patrick referred to them as "The Commies." This will be great marketing to attract Millennials and Gen Z.

[Uncle Rico]

McLovin on Dan Patrick referred to them as "The Commies." This will be great marketing to attract Millennials and Gen Z.

Since about 1920, what generation hasn’t been referred to by previous generations as communists?  The joke/characterization  is pretty tired by this point.

[MU82]

McLovin on Dan Patrick referred to them as "The Commies."

I guess that's fitting, given how many scared white folks think that Black athletes who stand up for human rights and racial equality are "Marxists."

[Billy Hoyle]

I guess that's fitting, given how many scared white folks think that Black athletes who stand up for human rights and racial equality are "Marxists."

well, if their loudest organization and its leaders didn't describe themselves "trained Marxists" (with four expensive houses and land in the Bahamas near Tiger Woods's house, notwithstanding) with the hammer and sickle prominent at their rallies maybe they wouldn't be called that.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

well, if their loudest organization and its leaders didn't describe themselves "trained Marxists" (with four expensive houses and land in the Bahamas near Tiger Woods's house, notwithstanding) with the hammer and sickle prominent at their rallies maybe they wouldn't be called that.

Who is their "loudest organization?"  And prove that it somehow represents "Black athletes who stand up for human rights and racial equity."

I'll save you the trouble.  You can't. 

This is just another dumb comment you make to avoid taking other people's concerns seriously.

[lawdog77]

I guess that's fitting, given how many scared white folks think that Black athletes who stand up for human rights as long as it doesn't occur in Chinaand racial equality are "Marxists."

FIFY.

[Pakuni]

FIFY.

Stop pretending you care.

[lawdog77]

Stop pretending you care.

OK dad. Which part, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet, Mongolia, Wuhan?

[Pakuni]

OK dad. Which part, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet, Mongolia, Wuhan?

Happy New Year.

[lawdog77]

Happy New Year.

Have fun watching the Winter Olympics.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

OK dad. Which part, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet, Mongolia, Wuhan?

I love the line of thinking that unless someone is perfect in their approach toward human rights, they are therefore not to be taken seriously when they talk about human rights at all.

Even Jesus wasn't perfect.  Don't be such a Pharisee. 

[lawdog77]

I love the line of thinking that unless someone is perfect in their approach toward human rights, they are therefore not to be taken seriously when they talk about human rights at all.

Even Jesus wasn't perfect.  Don't be such a Pharisee.

Never said anyone had to be perfect, and I take everyone seriously when one talks about human rights. Would just like a little more consistency when it comes to China, from everyone.

[Uncle Rico]

Never said anyone had to be perfect, and I take everyone seriously when one talks about human rights. Would just like a little more consistency when it comes to China, from everyone.

It is interesting Chinese human rights are a concern because people don’t particularly care for African-American athletes speaking out on injustice.  In many ways, the abuses in China are highlighted by injustice in our own country.  Methinks Fox News and the right wing would happily look past those abuses considering their business dealings in that country. 

[lawdog77]

It is interesting Chinese human rights are a concern because people don’t particularly care for African-American athletes speaking out on injustice.  In many ways, the abuses in China are highlighted by injustice in our own country.  Methinks Fox News and the right wing would happily look past those abuses considering their business dealings in that country.

Considering I am not a Fox News guy, can't answer that. I think a lot of people turn a blind eye to China because they like their inexpensive products, and as long as the sweat shops/slave trade isn't on our shore, they don't care. It's not just because of the NBA stance, look at H&M, Burberry, or any other companies that were/are using Xinjiang cotton. The problem is how do you stop it? China just sends their forced labor to other provinces so its hard to track.

[Pakuni]

Never said anyone had to be perfect, and I take everyone seriously when one talks about human rights. Would just like a little more consistency when it comes to China, from everyone.

"But what about China?" is a very serious response to Black athletes raising legitimate concerns about discrimination.
And I'm very much looking forward to the luge, thank you.

[Uncle Rico]

Considering I am not a Fox News guy, can't answer that. I think a lot of people turn a blind eye to China because they like their inexpensive products, and as long as the sweat shops/slave trade isn't on our shore, they don't care. It's not just because of the NBA stance, look at H&M, Burberry, or any other companies that were/are using Xinjiang cotton. The problem is how do you stop it? China just sends their forced labor to other provinces so its hard to track.

That’s why I think it’s a convenient what about.  That’s not directed at you but the idea African-American athletes can’t be concerned about societal issues in this country because of China rings hollow to me.

[jesmu84]

Considering I am not a Fox News guy, can't answer that. I think a lot of people turn a blind eye to China because they like their inexpensive products, and as long as the sweat shops/slave trade isn't on our shore, they don't care. It's not just because of the NBA stance, look at H&M, Burberry, or any other companies that were/are using Xinjiang cotton. The problem is how do you stop it? China just sends their forced labor to other provinces so its hard to track.

How to stop it?

In the US, force products sold here to be made here. Or at least tax products made elsewhere

[lawdog77]

How to stop it?

In the US, force products sold here to be made here. Or at least tax products made elsewhere

In a perfect world, I'd be down for an embargo of countries with human rights violations (Egypt, China, etc). However, we would also need to clean up our side of the street so to speak (better wages, working conditions, etc)

[Hards Alumni]

In a perfect world, I'd be down for an embargo of countries with human rights violations (Egypt, China, etc). However, we would also need to clean up our side of the street so to speak (better wages, working conditions, etc)

We'd be the kettle calling the pot black in that regard.

[jesmu84]

So now Flores and Jackson claiming financial incentive to lose games. When does this start to conflict with sports betting interests?

[MU82]

That’s why I think it’s a convenient what about.  That’s not directed at you but the idea African-American athletes can’t be concerned about societal issues in this country because of China rings hollow to me.

This, of course. Typical goalpost shifting and deflection.

The president of the United States incited a violent coup against the U.S. government? Yeah ... but what about the BLM protests in Portland?!?!

[Uncle Rico]

So now Flores and Jackson claiming financial incentive to lose games. When does this start to conflict with sports betting interests?

Without being crass or dismissive towards the problem of minority hiring in the NFL, this is what scares the league more