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Author Topic: 2021-2022 NFL Season  (Read 270094 times)

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3800 on: January 22, 2022, 08:42:30 AM »
From the Charlotte Observer on the Panthers' new OC ...

Like the Panthers in 2021, the Giants were struggling in 2013. They ranked 28th in the league in points per game. And Eli Manning, who had won two Super Bowls with the franchise, was starting to decline.

So they hired McAdoo, who had had success in Green Bay as both a tight ends and a quarterbacks coach. In his first season calling plays, McAdoo helped the Giants get to 13th in the league in points per game in 2014. The following year, they improved to sixth. Manning went from throwing 18 touchdowns and 27 interceptions in 2013 to 30 touchdowns and 14 interceptions in 2014.

When McAdoo became the head coach of the Giants in 2016, they finished 11-5 and made the playoffs before losing in the wild-card round. They were 8-3 in games decided by a touchdown or less.


As I said, I'll stay open-minded. I'm generally an optimist regarding the teams I root for, so I'm gonna go in thinking McAdoo will be good for the team. Then we'll see if he is.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3802 on: January 22, 2022, 11:53:49 AM »
One less Hall of Fame vote for AB
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ron-cook/2022/01/22/ron-cook-antonio-brown-tampa-bay-buccaneers-nfl/stories/202201230083

So he is not going to vote AB as a hall of fame, because he believes AB has mental health issues, that AB denies? Many with mental health issues have a hard time coming to the realization that they need help. Not a reason to not vote for someone into the hall of fame.

What does the writer think about voting in Tom Brady, who has multiple confirmed episodes of cheating on his record, that he tries to deny?

Whether AB gets into the hall should be based on what he did on the field, not whether or not he has and admits he has mental health issues. Especially when it is very clear that Arians was lying about some of the details regarding AB walking off...Arians claimed he had no idea AB had injury issues.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3803 on: January 22, 2022, 12:09:59 PM »
Yes. But remember - he is being hired by his good buddy Bill Polian who has zero skin in the game. He’ll tell McCaskey who to hire and then collect his huge fee. No consequences.

I don’t think he would be a bad coach. He has a high floor. But also a low ceiling.

He was good at both Indy and Detroit. If he hires good coordinators, it could most definitely work out.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3804 on: January 22, 2022, 02:56:22 PM »
He was good at both Indy and Detroit. If he hires good coordinators, it could most definitely work out.

I see 2 potential issues.

1. He had Manning or Stafford in Indy & Detroit. Fields is not close to either as a player. Obviously rookie seasons are always iffy, but I don't think he will come close to those guys. In his one season without either of those guys, I think Caldwell was 2-14. (a great lesson for those that think GB would still be a North Division contender if Rodgers leaves).

2. The Bears front office. A self-admitted "fan" is in charge. We don't know what the relationship with a GM will be like since Caldwell won't be his "guy" (assuming Caldwell is hired first). We also don't know what say Caldwell will have with personnel.


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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3805 on: January 22, 2022, 03:03:37 PM »
I see 2 potential issues.

1. He had Manning or Stafford in Indy & Detroit. Fields is not close to either as a player. Obviously rookie seasons are always iffy, but I don't think he will come close to those guys. In his one season without either of those guys, I think Caldwell was 2-14. (a great lesson for those that think GB would still be a North Division contender if Rodgers leaves).

2. The Bears front office. A self-admitted "fan" is in charge. We don't know what the relationship with a GM will be like since Caldwell won't be his "guy" (assuming Caldwell is hired first). We also don't know what say Caldwell will have with personnel.

I agree with this.  Until proven otherwise, coaches are setup to fail in Chicago and Jacksonville
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3806 on: January 22, 2022, 03:04:51 PM »
I see 2 potential issues.

1. He had Manning or Stafford in Indy & Detroit. Fields is not close to either as a player. Obviously rookie seasons are always iffy, but I don't think he will come close to those guys. In his one season without either of those guys, I think Caldwell was 2-14. (a great lesson for those that think GB would still be a North Division contender if Rodgers leaves).

2. The Bears front office. A self-admitted "fan" is in charge. We don't know what the relationship with a GM will be like since Caldwell won't be his "guy" (assuming Caldwell is hired first). We also don't know what say Caldwell will have with personnel.

Agree with you regarding #2. Definitely a concern and why Polian should not have been the guy to begin with.

Regarding #1, I get it, but any coach was going to be bad when the QB gets hurt. I just look at his work in Detroit, which was good.

Look I’m not hiring him if I’m the Bears. But I’m not writing it off completely if they do either. 
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3807 on: January 22, 2022, 04:10:40 PM »
Agree with you regarding #2. Definitely a concern and why Polian should not have been the guy to begin with.

Regarding #1, I get it, but any coach was going to be bad when the QB gets hurt. I just look at his work in Detroit, which was good.

Look I’m not hiring him if I’m the Bears. But I’m not writing it off completely if they do either.

Sounds like we are pretty close to agreeing.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3808 on: January 22, 2022, 04:13:40 PM »
Allegedly, Polian pushing hard for Eberflus as HC and Morocco Brown as GM

Now, it could be totally coincidence...

But I find it interesting that the "consultant" with deep Indy ties is pushing 2 current Indy staff.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3809 on: January 22, 2022, 04:25:37 PM »
Allegedly, Polian pushing hard for Eberflus as HC and Morocco Brown as GM

Now, it could be totally coincidence...

But I find it interesting that the "consultant" with deep Indy ties is pushing 2 current Indy staff.

Doesn’t look like either worked for Indy when he was team president though.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3810 on: January 22, 2022, 04:43:54 PM »
Doesn’t look like either worked for Indy when he was team president though.

Since Polian comes from a culture where he was team president, I’m surprised he’s not pushing the Bears in that direction. A Mark Murphy/Theo Epstein type hierarchy.

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« Reply #3811 on: January 22, 2022, 04:49:02 PM »
Since Polian comes from a culture where he was team president, I’m surprised he’s not pushing the Bears in that direction. A Mark Murphy/Theo Epstein type hierarchy.

That’s going to require the McCaskeys giving up some control.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3812 on: January 22, 2022, 05:05:16 PM »
Doesn’t look like either worked for Indy when he was team president though.

You don't think he isn't still close with Indy org?

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3813 on: January 22, 2022, 05:09:33 PM »
You don't think he isn't still close with Indy org?

I have no idea. He hasn’t been employed by them for over a decade.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3814 on: January 22, 2022, 05:18:41 PM »
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3815 on: January 22, 2022, 05:32:38 PM »
Meanwhile The Jags are screwing their search up as expected.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-gm-trent-baalke-strongly-backing-colts-matt-eberflus-in-coach-search-with-bill-obrien-out-of-mix/

Anyone who has Bill O’Brien as their 1st choice for HC shouldn’t be allowed in a position to choose.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3816 on: January 22, 2022, 05:45:57 PM »
No Bahktiari tonight. Yuck.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3817 on: January 22, 2022, 06:03:53 PM »
Burrow really takes some bad sacks.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3818 on: January 22, 2022, 06:12:15 PM »
Burrow really takes some bad sacks.

Reminds me of a young Rodgers
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3819 on: January 22, 2022, 06:21:46 PM »
The Bengals would not regret spending all of their draft capital on offensive linemen.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3820 on: January 22, 2022, 06:31:15 PM »
This is one of the dumber playoff games of all time
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3821 on: January 22, 2022, 06:32:31 PM »
Tomorrows winner is going to crush the Bengals.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3822 on: January 22, 2022, 06:38:58 PM »
Tomorrows winner is going to crush the Bengals.

Titans gave them that game with the turnovers and bizarre end of halfs
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3823 on: January 22, 2022, 06:42:57 PM »
*Charles Barkley voice* The Titans are the dumbest team in the NFL

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #3824 on: January 22, 2022, 06:45:57 PM »
Titans would have been much better had Henry not played.

 

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