2021-2022 NFL Season

[GB Warrior]

Packers injury report will be interesting for Saturday.

Cobb activated off the IL
MVS doubtful
Bak questionable
Billy Turner will be back
Jaire, Z and Mericilus could all be back too.

Lots of rust in some of these guys but that's a lot of impact players who have not been in the grind for quite some time and could be fresh.

MVS notwithstanding, Packers fans better hope this is a lot of posturing. There's a whole lot of not good on that report

[Herman Cain]

Bucs Injury Report
https://www.buccaneers.com/news/rams-buccaneers-injury-report-jan-20-sean-murphy-bunting-upgraded

[Hards Alumni]

MVS notwithstanding, Packers fans better hope this is a lot of posturing. There's a whole lot of not good on that report

Most of those guys haven't played all year.

[Herman Cain]

Jim Caldwell turning down interview offers. Seems to be focusing on Bears and Jags.

https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-west/las-vegas-raiders/jim-caldwell-reportedly-declined-interview-requests-from-2-teams

[The Sultan]

IMO, having Billy Turner back is way more impactful than having Bakhtiari back.  Bak has been on the field for a quarter or two the entire year? 

Jaire, Z'darius and Mercellus are all bonuses at this point. 

[The Sultan]

I'm not sure they had many options with Rhule clearly being a lame duck coach, but the Panthers hiring Ben McAdoo as offensive coordinator?

[hairy worthen]

IMO, having Billy Turner back is way more impactful than having Bakhtiari back.  Bak has been on the field for a quarter or two the entire year? 

Jaire, Z'darius and Mercellus are all bonuses at this point.

Except kelly has played almost as well or as well as Turner, so not much gain there. Bakhtiari is a clear upgrade over Nijman. The question is how well Bak holds up.

[Billy Hoyle]

Jim Caldwell turning down interview offers. Seems to be focusing on Bears and Jags.

https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-west/las-vegas-raiders/jim-caldwell-reportedly-declined-interview-requests-from-2-teams

of course he'd want to go to those two franchises, mediocrity would be celebrated

[The Sultan]

Except kelly has played almost as well or as well as Turner, so not much gain there. Bakhtiari is a clear upgrade over Nijman. The question is how well Bak holds up.

My assumption is that Turner was going to replace Nijman.

[hairy worthen]

My assumption is that Turner was going to replace Nijman.

Yes that's an upgrade

[Herman Cain]

of course he'd want to go to those two franchises, mediocrity would be celebrated

Caldwell got the Lions to the playoffs twice. That is a pretty talented coach in my opinion.

[Billy Hoyle]

Caldwell got the Lions to the playoffs twice. That is a pretty talented coach in my opinion.

he couldn't beat winning teams (4 wins in 4 years) and the team melted down in 2016, losing their last three and having to go to Seattle for the playoffs (where they forgot to show up).  Then in 2017 they were mediocre in the second half of the season and missed the playoffs. He is what he is, mediocre.

[hairy worthen]

he couldn't beat winning teams (4 wins in 4 years) and the team melted down in 2016, losing their last three and having to go to Seattle for the playoffs (where they forgot to show up).  Then in 2017 they were mediocre in the second half of the season and missed the playoffs. He is what he is, mediocre.

Caldwell a good coach imo and a good guy. The coaches before and after him did worse and he had to work for crap franchise and crap front office with crap culture. 

[BM1090]

I don't think he's excellent, but he's a clear outlier on this list and deserves another shot. Caldwell is the only lions coach since 1996 to not fail miserably.

   Marty Mornhinweg†   2001–2002   32   5   27   0   .156   0   –   –   –   
   Steve Mariucci   2003–2005      15   28   0   .349   0   –   –   –   
   Rod Marinelli†   2006–2008      10   38   0   .208   0   –   –   –   
        Jim Schwartz†   2009–2013      29   51   0   .363   0   1   0   1   
   Jim Caldwell   2014–2017      36   28   0   .563   0   2   0   2   
   Matt Patricia†   2018–2020      13   28   1   .321   0   –   –   –   
   Dan Campbell   2021–present      3   13   1   .206   0

[tower912]

he couldn't beat winning teams (4 wins in 4 years) and the team melted down in 2016, losing their last three and having to go to Seattle for the playoffs (where they forgot to show up).  Then in 2017 they were mediocre in the second half of the season and missed the playoffs. He is what he is, mediocre.

That was the season where Stafford hit Golden Tate with what was initially ruled the game winning touchdown against Atlanta with 9 seconds to go.   The review showed his knee hit the ground with the ball an inch short of the goal line.   The Lions did not have a TO left and they ran off the final 9 seconds with the Lions waiting to snap the football.   The Lions lost the game, finished 9-7 when 10-6 made the playoffs.    Quinn had his reason to fire Caldwell and hire Patricia.   
Caldwell can coach.  Perhaps not well enough to win it all, but certainly well enough take. the playoffs.

[jesmu84]

My problem with Caldwell as a hire for the bears, is his age. I'm not sure how innovative he'd be. I'm sure he's also got "his guys" for coordinators/position coaches as he's been around a while. Again, not sure how that plays out for creativity.

Lovie was a good coach. He hired crap staff around him cause they were "his guys". Mike Tice as on offensive coordinator? Etc.

[hairy worthen]

My problem with Caldwell as a hire for the bears, is his age. I'm not sure how innovative he'd be. I'm sure he's also got "his guys" for coordinators/position coaches as he's been around a while. Again, not sure how that plays out for creativity.

Lovie was a good coach. He hired crap staff around him cause they were "his guys". Mike Tice as on offensive coordinator? Etc.

Well they hired Nagy as the young, up and coming innovative offensive coach. How did that work out?

[BM1090]

Packers roll tomorrow.

No prediction on the AFC game but hope Cincinnati can pull it out.

[jesmu84]

Well they hired Nagy as the young, up and coming innovative offensive coach. How did that work out?

So that disproves my statement?

I don't want a specialist/guru as HC. I want a CEO culture/leader.

[hairy worthen]

So that disproves my statement?

I don't want a specialist/guru as HC. I want a CEO culture/leader.

Well maybe i am misunderstanding what you wrote. Did you not say,  your problem with Caldwell is his age. You were not sure how innovative he would be, or how creative his assistants would be. There was nothing in your post about ceo/culture/leader. If that is what you want Caldwell is your guy.

My point was the innovative guys dont always work out either.

[jesmu84]

Well maybe i am misunderstanding what you wrote. Did you not say,  your problem with Caldwell is his age. You were not sure how innovative he would be, or how creative his assistants would be. There was nothing in your post about ceo/culture/leader. If that is what you want Caldwell is your guy.

My point was the innovative guys dont always work out either.

But Caldwell's downfall, imo, is his age and being enveloped by the "good ol' boys" club.

He'll hire his buddies like Lovie did - tice, tucker, babich, etc. He won't be hiring a up and coming coordinator to modernize the offense, etc.

Does that make sense?

[hairy worthen]

But Caldwell's downfall, imo, is his age and being enveloped by the "good ol' boys" club.

He'll hire his buddies like Lovie did - tice, tucker, babich, etc. He won't be hiring a up and coming coordinator to modernize the offense, etc.

Does that make sense?

Sure
, if the McCaskys knew what the hell they were doing they would ask those questions and make sure they were on the same page with what type of assistant they want and the direction they want the team to go.

[Herman Cain]

Tristan Wirfs and Ryan Jensen limited participation in practice today for the Bucs. So it is possible they could play on Sunday.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/21/ryan-jensen-tristan-wirfs-practicing-for-bucs-on-friday/

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/rams-buccaneers-injury-report-jan-21-ronald-jones-breshad-perriman-ruled-out

[Jockey]

But Caldwell's downfall, imo, is his age and being enveloped by the "good ol' boys" club.

He'll hire his buddies like Lovie did - tice, tucker, babich, etc. He won't be hiring a up and coming coordinator to modernize the offense, etc.

Does that make sense?

Yes. But remember - he is being hired by his good buddy Bill Polian who has zero skin in the game. He'll tell McCaskey who to hire and then collect his huge fee. No consequences.

I don't think he would be a bad coach. He has a high floor. But also a low ceiling.

[MU82]

I'm not sure they had many options with Rhule clearly being a lame duck coach, but the Panthers hiring Ben McAdoo as offensive coordinator?

That's what the ESPN bottom line said. I don't know much about him as I don't follow the Giants. I'm sure I'll be reading plenty about him in the coming days from the Charlotte paper and The Athletic.

But yes, Rhule's options were limited. First, he's a lame duck. Second, he stated publicly that he wanted a guy with NFL offensive coordinator experience, meaning he was eliminating successful college guys or NFL guys who were one step below OC but maybe ready to take that next step.

As always, I'll be open-minded. The results will speak for themselves. If the Panthers don't fix their OL and get better QB play, Bill Walsh could rise from the dead to take over the offense and it wouldn't matter.