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StillAWarrior

Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

JWags85

I'm interested the conversations that OBJ had with McVay and the Rams.  Like were they straight up and he didn't care, he figured he'd let his play do the talking?  Did they say "hey you're only gonna get 4-5 targets a game within the offense" and he was like "BET..." thinking it wouldn't play out like that once he got there due to confidence?

Herman Cain

Quote from: JWags85 on November 12, 2021, 10:05:25 AM
I'm interested the conversations that OBJ had with McVay and the Rams.  Like were they straight up and he didn't care, he figured he'd let his play do the talking?  Did they say "hey you're only gonna get 4-5 targets a game within the offense" and he was like "BET..." thinking it wouldn't play out like that once he got there due to confidence?
My guess it was all positive both ways. Coach probably told him they will have plays designed for OBJ.

OBJ popular among teammates . He and Baker went on a fishing trip together . So not like he is a bad character guy.

OBJ  has to be a model citizen because he has free agency contract negotiations coming up next year.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Herman Cain on November 12, 2021, 12:40:51 PM
My guess it was all positive both ways. Coach probably told him they will have plays designed for OBJ.

OBJ popular among teammates . He and Baker went on a fishing trip together . So not like he is a bad character guy.

OBJ  has to be a model citizen because he has free agency contract negotiations coming up next year.

The impression I get from news reports is that OBJ is popular and people like him. They just don't necessarily like playing with him.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: StillAWarrior on November 12, 2021, 12:53:21 PM
The impression I get from news reports is that OBJ is popular and people like him. They just don't necessarily like playing with him.

And he hasn't been productive
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 12, 2021, 01:12:08 PM
And he hasn't been productive

Yep, that's the thing. OBJ once was incredible, and a few of his highlight catches make you go, "That was incredible!" But the fact is that he has done very, very little for years now. Some due to injury, some due to his personality, some due to a bad fit.

He's the definition of overhyped.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

BM1090

It's really just his last 13 games that he's been unproductive. His first year (2019) with the Browns he had 74 receptions for 1,035 yards. Down from his first few years for sure but still a very productive WR. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him get close to those numbers with a new team in the next couple of years.

cheebs09

Can someone smarter than me explain the OBJ contract situation?

My understanding is that whether he signed for the minimum or $7.5M, he was getting the same amount of money this year. It just changed how much the Browns paid. The only additional options he would have had were above $7.5M or a multi-year deal.

I'm seeing some tweets that the Rams had a better offer, and I didn't think that made sense.


JWags85

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 12, 2021, 01:32:22 PM
Can someone smarter than me explain the OBJ contract situation?

My understanding is that whether he signed for the minimum or $7.5M, he was getting the same amount of money this year. It just changed how much the Browns paid. The only additional options he would have had were above $7.5M or a multi-year deal.

I'm seeing some tweets that the Rams had a better offer, and I didn't think that made sense.

So he was only due $750K for the remainder of the year.  But the Rams gave him a $500K signing bonus and then another $3MM incentives depending on team performance.  AKA if they go on to win a Super Bowl.  If they get bounced early, he's just getting the extra $500K.

Jockey

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 12, 2021, 04:18:54 PM
As predicted, the Gruden lawsuit arrives.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jon-gruden-sues-nfl-roger-goodell-resignation-raiders

Gruden got what he deserved.

Gruden may very well be right about what the NFL did.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 12, 2021, 04:18:54 PM
As predicted, the Gruden lawsuit arrives.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jon-gruden-sues-nfl-roger-goodell-resignation-raiders
I don't know how to post GIFs. If I did I would post the one of Michael Jackson eating popcorn .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Ardmore Mug

Good move by the Rams! ! !  They just lost Robert Woods to ACL injury on Friday ! ! !  8-)
Maybe OBJ did a Tonya Harding to Woods ! ! !    ;)   lol

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

JWags85

The timing of the Woods injury is absolutely crazy.  OBJ went from a luxury to a necessity in 24 hours.  We're gonna get every chance to see if the man still has it.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jockey on November 12, 2021, 05:51:53 PM
Gruden got what he deserved.

Gruden may very well be right about what the NFL did.

Yep.

Hard to find the good guy(s) in this one.

tower912

Big Ben sitting out due to COVID.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dish

I know this is the NFL board, but Michael Mayer from Notre Dame is going to be an NFL stud TE. Not draft eligible until 2023, but that guy is a beast.

MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 13, 2021, 09:27:53 PM
I know this is the NFL board, but Michael Mayer from Notre Dame is going to be an NFL stud TE. Not draft eligible until 2023, but that guy is a beast.

Agree. And obviously ridiculous that he has to wait until 2023.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Passage in the Charlotte Observer today:

The Panthers are paying three different starting quarterbacks a total of up to $21.77 million this year: Teddy Bridgewater ($7 million), who is starting for the Denver Broncos; Sam Darnold ($4.77 million), who is on injured reserve; and now Newton (up to $10 million).

In other words, the Panthers are paying Newton's replacement, his replacement's replacement, and his replacement's replacement's replacement, who happens to be the original player in that bizarre sequence.


Not only is that fun to read, it's also a blueprint for how to eff up a franchise.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

Quote from: MU82 on November 14, 2021, 08:28:35 AM
Passage in the Charlotte Observer today:

The Panthers are paying three different starting quarterbacks a total of up to $21.77 million this year: Teddy Bridgewater ($7 million), who is starting for the Denver Broncos; Sam Darnold ($4.77 million), who is on injured reserve; and now Newton (up to $10 million).

In other words, the Panthers are paying Newton's replacement, his replacement's replacement, and his replacement's replacement's replacement, who happens to be the original player in that bizarre sequence.


Not only is that fun to read, it's also a blueprint for how to eff up a franchise.
Why did the Panthers give up on Teddy Bridgewater ?. I thought he was serviceable. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

Quote from: Herman Cain on November 14, 2021, 08:58:41 AM
Why did the Panthers give up on Teddy Bridgewater ?. I thought he was serviceable.

They felt he was extremely low-ceiling. And he failed repeatedly to close out winnable games. They more or less signed him as a stop-gap but hoped he could be more. As the season went on, they realized he was only a stop-gap.

With Denver this season, he's been fairly similar. He makes some plays, mostly doesn't hurt you, but is he ever gonna be the guy who takes you to the next level?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Refs just handed a TD to the Titans after a phantom "hit to the QB head" penalty wiped out a Saints INT of Tannehill.

Those kinds of calls are so big -- I mean, ultimately it could play a role to N.O. missing the playoffs -- that the refs really need to get them right. Should be reviewable.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

CreightonWarrior

Both networks in Omaha switched to different games this week because of blowouts. Don't remember that happening before.

MU82

I guess the Bucs still aren't gonna go undefeated.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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