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Author Topic: 2021-2022 NFL Season  (Read 270296 times)

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2276 on: November 12, 2021, 10:05:25 AM »
I'm interested the conversations that OBJ had with McVay and the Rams.  Like were they straight up and he didn't care, he figured he'd let his play do the talking?  Did they say "hey you're only gonna get 4-5 targets a game within the offense" and he was like "BET..." thinking it wouldn't play out like that once he got there due to confidence?

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2277 on: November 12, 2021, 12:40:51 PM »
I'm interested the conversations that OBJ had with McVay and the Rams.  Like were they straight up and he didn't care, he figured he'd let his play do the talking?  Did they say "hey you're only gonna get 4-5 targets a game within the offense" and he was like "BET..." thinking it wouldn't play out like that once he got there due to confidence?
My guess it was all positive both ways. Coach probably told him they will have plays designed for OBJ.

OBJ popular among teammates . He and Baker went on a fishing trip together . So not like he is a bad character guy.

OBJ  has to be a model citizen because he has free agency contract negotiations coming up next year.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2278 on: November 12, 2021, 12:53:21 PM »
My guess it was all positive both ways. Coach probably told him they will have plays designed for OBJ.

OBJ popular among teammates . He and Baker went on a fishing trip together . So not like he is a bad character guy.

OBJ  has to be a model citizen because he has free agency contract negotiations coming up next year.

The impression I get from news reports is that OBJ is popular and people like him. They just don't necessarily like playing with him.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2279 on: November 12, 2021, 01:12:08 PM »
The impression I get from news reports is that OBJ is popular and people like him. They just don't necessarily like playing with him.

And he hasn’t been productive
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2280 on: November 12, 2021, 01:23:42 PM »
And he hasn’t been productive

Yep, that's the thing. OBJ once was incredible, and a few of his highlight catches make you go, "That was incredible!" But the fact is that he has done very, very little for years now. Some due to injury, some due to his personality, some due to a bad fit.

He's the definition of overhyped.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2281 on: November 12, 2021, 01:30:22 PM »
It's really just his last 13 games that he's been unproductive. His first year (2019) with the Browns he had 74 receptions for 1,035 yards. Down from his first few years for sure but still a very productive WR. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him get close to those numbers with a new team in the next couple of years.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2282 on: November 12, 2021, 01:32:22 PM »
Can someone smarter than me explain the OBJ contract situation?

My understanding is that whether he signed for the minimum or $7.5M, he was getting the same amount of money this year. It just changed how much the Browns paid. The only additional options he would have had were above $7.5M or a multi-year deal.

I’m seeing some tweets that the Rams had a better offer, and I didn’t think that made sense.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2283 on: November 12, 2021, 04:18:54 PM »

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2284 on: November 12, 2021, 04:50:00 PM »
Can someone smarter than me explain the OBJ contract situation?

My understanding is that whether he signed for the minimum or $7.5M, he was getting the same amount of money this year. It just changed how much the Browns paid. The only additional options he would have had were above $7.5M or a multi-year deal.

I’m seeing some tweets that the Rams had a better offer, and I didn’t think that made sense.

So he was only due $750K for the remainder of the year.  But the Rams gave him a $500K signing bonus and then another $3MM incentives depending on team performance.  AKA if they go on to win a Super Bowl.  If they get bounced early, he's just getting the extra $500K.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2285 on: November 12, 2021, 05:51:53 PM »
As predicted, the Gruden lawsuit arrives.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jon-gruden-sues-nfl-roger-goodell-resignation-raiders

Gruden got what he deserved.

Gruden may very well be right about what the NFL did.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2286 on: November 12, 2021, 06:28:36 PM »
As predicted, the Gruden lawsuit arrives.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jon-gruden-sues-nfl-roger-goodell-resignation-raiders
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2287 on: November 13, 2021, 12:37:40 PM »
Good move by the Rams! ! !  They just lost Robert Woods to ACL injury on Friday ! ! !  8-)
Maybe OBJ did a Tonya Harding to Woods ! ! !    ;)   lol

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2289 on: November 13, 2021, 04:47:52 PM »
The timing of the Woods injury is absolutely crazy.  OBJ went from a luxury to a necessity in 24 hours.  We're gonna get every chance to see if the man still has it.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2290 on: November 13, 2021, 08:31:28 PM »
Gruden got what he deserved.

Gruden may very well be right about what the NFL did.

Yep.

Hard to find the good guy(s) in this one.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2291 on: November 13, 2021, 08:53:34 PM »
Big Ben sitting out due to COVID.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2292 on: November 13, 2021, 09:27:53 PM »
I know this is the NFL board, but Michael Mayer from Notre Dame is going to be an NFL stud TE. Not draft eligible until 2023, but that guy is a beast.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2293 on: November 13, 2021, 10:42:15 PM »
I know this is the NFL board, but Michael Mayer from Notre Dame is going to be an NFL stud TE. Not draft eligible until 2023, but that guy is a beast.

Agree. And obviously ridiculous that he has to wait until 2023.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2294 on: November 14, 2021, 08:28:35 AM »
Passage in the Charlotte Observer today:

The Panthers are paying three different starting quarterbacks a total of up to $21.77 million this year: Teddy Bridgewater ($7 million), who is starting for the Denver Broncos; Sam Darnold ($4.77 million), who is on injured reserve; and now Newton (up to $10 million).

In other words, the Panthers are paying Newton’s replacement, his replacement’s replacement, and his replacement’s replacement’s replacement, who happens to be the original player in that bizarre sequence.


Not only is that fun to read, it's also a blueprint for how to eff up a franchise.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2295 on: November 14, 2021, 08:58:41 AM »
Passage in the Charlotte Observer today:

The Panthers are paying three different starting quarterbacks a total of up to $21.77 million this year: Teddy Bridgewater ($7 million), who is starting for the Denver Broncos; Sam Darnold ($4.77 million), who is on injured reserve; and now Newton (up to $10 million).

In other words, the Panthers are paying Newton’s replacement, his replacement’s replacement, and his replacement’s replacement’s replacement, who happens to be the original player in that bizarre sequence.


Not only is that fun to read, it's also a blueprint for how to eff up a franchise.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2296 on: November 14, 2021, 09:36:35 AM »
Why did the Panthers give up on Teddy Bridgewater ?. I thought he was serviceable.

They felt he was extremely low-ceiling. And he failed repeatedly to close out winnable games. They more or less signed him as a stop-gap but hoped he could be more. As the season went on, they realized he was only a stop-gap.

With Denver this season, he's been fairly similar. He makes some plays, mostly doesn't hurt you, but is he ever gonna be the guy who takes you to the next level?
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2297 on: November 14, 2021, 01:20:13 PM »
Refs just handed a TD to the Titans after a phantom "hit to the QB head" penalty wiped out a Saints INT of Tannehill.

Those kinds of calls are so big -- I mean, ultimately it could play a role to N.O. missing the playoffs -- that the refs really need to get them right. Should be reviewable.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #2298 on: November 14, 2021, 02:50:24 PM »
Both networks in Omaha switched to different games this week because of blowouts. Don't remember that happening before.

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« Reply #2299 on: November 14, 2021, 02:57:57 PM »
I guess the Bucs still aren’t gonna go undefeated.
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