2021-2022 NFL Season

[GB Warrior]

Given the state of the North, I actually hope Rodgers misses the Seattle game. This would be a much more representative game for Love. The kid hasn't even practiced with Adams, who missed the OTAs where Love was the #1 and was on the COVID list until Friday.

It was an uninspiring game, but I remember Rodgers' beatdown in Baltimore too. I don't think LaFleur did Love a lot of favors running the McCarthy offense for much of the game. Got away from play action, and more importantly, only handed the ball off 20 times to one of the best running back duos in the league. 

[Pakuni]

Nothing that happened yesterday changed my mind about believing the Packers would be below .500 without Rodgers.

[MUfan12]

When Favre got hurt in Dallas and we saw Rodgers for the first time, we knew we had something. This was entirely the opposite.

I've seen this a bunch of times. That was the third time Rodgers had extended snaps in a regular season game. The first two times he was absolutely terrible.

Love has good size, a live arm, and is mobile. It's a decent base from which to build off of. What we saw yesterday was no indication of what the rest of his career would be like. As you said, he struggled in a lot of areas that rookie QBs regularly do.

Time will tell, but I'm not ready to write him off after that.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I've seen this a bunch of times. That was the third time Rodgers had extended snaps in a regular season game. The first two times he was absolutely terrible.

Love has good size, a live arm, and is mobile. It's a decent base from which to build off of. What we saw yesterday was no indication of what the rest of his career would be like. As you said, he struggled in a lot of areas that rookie QBs regularly do.

Time will tell, but I'm not ready to write him off after that.

This. I'd also add that I'm not expecting Green Bay's next QB to be as good as Rodgers or even close to him. Most teams that have won super bowls did so despite not having a QB as good as Rodgers.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

This. I'd also add that I'm not expecting Green Bay's next QB to be as good as Rodgers or even close to him. Most teams that have won super bowls did so despite not having a QB as good as Rodgers.

But as Packers fans, it is our god-given right to have a HOF level QB. Everyone knows this.

[The Lens]

But as Packers fans, it is our god-given right to have a HOF level QB. Everyone knows this.

And then routinely lose in the NFC Championship game.

[cheebs09]

And then routinely lose in the NFC Championship game.

Ouch. But fair.

I was hoping we’d see a better game from Love. I’m not sure how many times he’s practiced with Adams based on Covid and camp attendance.

He looked jittery back there and to me didn’t seem like the plays were built for him. Part of me wonders if the coaches expected the Chiefs offense to be better and needing big plays to keep up rather than runs and quick passes to keep the chains moving.

I’m trying to remember when Rodgers looked competent. He had a good second preseason it looks like. However, in his regular season action he got hurt pretty quickly against the Pats. He looked good in the Dallas game. I remember the early thought was he was injury prone.

Even as a starter his first year, I think he was thought of as more a game manager than a star. He definitely took a leap forward, especially in the playoffs next year. However, it’s not like going from Favre to Rodgers was seamless.

My hope is Love could be a serviceable pro that with the right team around him, can lead us to a Super Bowl. It’s not like some of the recent Super Bowl Qbs are future HOF’s.

[Uncle Rico]

Ouch. But fair.

I was hoping we’d see a better game from Love. I’m not sure how many times he’s practiced with Adams based on Covid and camp attendance.

He looked jittery back there and to me didn’t seem like the plays were built for him. Part of me wonders if the coaches expected the Chiefs offense to be better and needing big plays to keep up rather than runs and quick passes to keep the chains moving.

I’m trying to remember when Rodgers looked competent. He had a good second preseason it looks like. However, in his regular season action he got hurt pretty quickly against the Pats. He looked good in the Dallas game. I remember the early thought was he was injury prone.

Even as a starter his first year, I think he was thought of as more a game manager than a star. He definitely took a leap forward, especially in the playoffs next year. However, it’s not like going from Favre to Rodgers was seamless.

My hope is Love could be a serviceable pro that with the right team around him, can lead us to a Super Bowl. It’s not like some of the recent Super Bowl Qbs are future HOF’s.

The Packers 2008 defense gave up the lead in a lot of games very late

[JWags85]

Nothing that happened yesterday changed my mind about believing the Packers would be below .500 without Rodgers.

Even if they had moved him in the offseason and replaced him with someone a bit better than a hapless inexperienced pseudo-rookie?

[tower912]

Like Jared Goff.

[MU82]

Or Sam Darnold.

[DegenerateDish]

This Raiders season will be a 30 for 30 someday.

[Herman Cain]

Of course they can make a playoff run.  Hell, this team could win the Super Bowl despite what happened yesterday!  They could conceivably finish 7-1 or 6-2 and be a 1 or 2 seed.

But let's say they do that. Packer fans are going to ask, "why are you breaking this up?"

The easiest way for the Packers to make a clean break from AR is if they finish 5-3, lose in the second round, and then they could write him off as a distraction and move on.

What is the rush to get rid of Raiders. He is still playing at a very high level and has shown no decline. Good quarterbacks don’t grow on trees . I say ride his ability as long as possible.

[Uncle Rico]

What is the rush to get rid of Raiders. He is still playing at a very high level and has shown no decline. Good quarterbacks don’t grow on trees . I say ride his ability as long as possible.

They will be $28 million over the cap and he has a stated desire to leave.  The train has left the station.

[jesmu84]

Good on state farm

[Jockey]

Good on state farm

Actually, State Farm is the thing where the NFL can go after Rodgers if they want to fine or suspend him. Under the Covid agreement with the NFLPA, players who aren't vaccinated were banned from social/media/marketing/sponsorship activities. So, if he did any of this after early June when the deal was struck...

We'll need to wait and see what State Farm does. On a normal Sunday, about 25% of State Farm commercials feature ARod. Yesterday it was less than 2%.

[JWags85]

Like Jared Goff.

Goff isn't great and he's twisting in the wind on a horrible Lions team, but he made 2 Pro Bowls and was competent enough to lead the Rams to a Super Bowl.  I think with LaFleur, a great running game, and a top 3 WR he'd be capable enough to have the Packers in good shape.

[tower912]

That is fair.  With a decent line and decent receivers, he could be a game manager.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Good on state farm

To not end their sponsorship deal with discount double vax?

[JWags85]

This Raiders season will be a 30 for 30 someday.

Arnette was a really questionable pick too.  Dude was a 2nd-3rd round projection and had tons of character concerns to reach for him in the 1st.  Pretty sure he crashed like 3-4 rental cars before his first season even started if I recall.  This is pretty bleak

https://twitter.com/KuhnTristen/status/1455746547879235585?s=20

[Dr. Blackheart]

Arnette was a really questionable pick too.  Dude was a 2nd-3rd round projection and had tons of character concerns to reach for him in the 1st.  Pretty sure he crashed like 3-4 rental cars before his first season even started if I recall.  This is pretty bleak

https://twitter.com/KuhnTristen/status/1455746547879235585?s=20

A pick acquired in the Mack trade with the Bears.

[GB Warrior]

Is Mayock going to be able to convince Davis these guys were Gruden's idea? To say nothing of guys like Clelin Ferrell who are just bad.

[Pakuni]

Is Mayock going to be able to convince Davis these guys were Gruden's idea? To say nothing of guys like Clelin Ferrell who are just bad.

I don't think any convincing is necessary. Davis gave Gruden control. He knows who called the shots.
Doesn't mean Mayock is safe by any means, but everyone in the building knows Gruden made the big decisions. The Day 3 picks, where they've done quite well ( Crosby, Renfrow, Hobbs) probably belong to Mayock.

[JWags85]

Is Mayock going to be able to convince Davis these guys were Gruden's idea? To say nothing of guys like Clelin Ferrell who are just bad.

So its funny, all of the Raiders early round picks from Bama were good.  The rest are awful.  Josh Jacobs went over 1000 yards his first 2 seasons and made a Pro Bowl.  Alex Leatherwood looks like a good pick, though drafting a tackle in the first round and moving him to guard is kind of a miss.  Honestly, I don't think the Ruggs pick is that bad.  Everything is looked at through a hindsight lens, but Ruggs wasn't a character issue in college, he was super talented, and played pretty well before all of this happened.  Its not like Arnette where the warning signs were there just waiting to explode.  Other than him driving fast a previous time that came out after Ruggs didn't give indications that he was gonna be an issue.

That 2019 early draft was brutal too.  Abrams has been ehh, Mullens cant stay healthy, and Isiah Johnson got waived already.

[DegenerateDish]

Justin Fields throws tonight have been wildly inaccurate.