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Dish

I thought going into the week Lions +8 was one of the better plays out there.

JWags85

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 26, 2021, 01:54:51 PM
Fields looks....?

Someone who has zero time to make a decision, much less throw.  He's getting bumrushed on every drop back.

Sending Jason Peters out there is coaching malpractice.  I don't care what injuries or depth issues you have, any young mildly experienced guy is better than a literal 40 year old who can't move and is coming off back to back injury riddled seasons

Dish

My head explode comment was in regards to Nagy's decision to kick on 4th down instead of going for the TD.

I've said plenty on Nagy being awful on here since year 1.

Just bring in Daboll, start the 2022 season.

tower912

The Lions quit trying to go down field in the second half.  Dump offs to the rb's and short passes to the wr's and te's.   They then made plays in space.   It isn't over yet.   The Ravens will get the ball back with lots of time.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Quote from: tower912 on September 26, 2021, 03:03:16 PM
The Lions quit trying to go down field in the second half.  Dump offs to the rb's and short passes to the wr's and te's.   They then made plays in space.   It isn't over yet.   The Ravens will get the ball back with lots of time.

It is the Lions.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I never understand when franchises rush young QBs in to start for bad teams. Give them a year to get used to the speed of the NFL and learn how to be a pro without risking injury or breaking their spirit. Take your lumps for a year. Use the better draft position to collect better pieces to put around your future franchise QB.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Dish

The lack of a delay of game penalty the play before the 66 yard kick was interesting.

CreightonWarrior

Unbelievable kick by Tucker, vintage Lions loss.

Big fan of Herbert

tower912

Quote from: DegenerateDish on September 26, 2021, 03:17:08 PM
The lack of a delay of game penalty the play before the 66 yard kick was interesting.

NFL referees usually seem to give that call the benefit of the doubt.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dish

Quote from: tower912 on September 26, 2021, 03:21:12 PM
NFL referees usually seem to give that call the benefit of the doubt.

It was 2.5 seconds after the play clock hit 0. It wasn't even close.

https://twitter.com/jakechsfbnmore/status/1442220631265775616?s=21

tower912

Time has no meaning when the Lions are involved.   Entire rules have been changed to justify the Lions losing.   Pass interference flags get picked up in playoff gamrs against the Lions.  The same kicker has now made two 60+ yard field goals to beat the Lions.  It is the fate of the Lions.  It is a comedy, not a tragedy.


Vegas should figure out how to do odds on the Lions finding ways to lose no one has seen before.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: DegenerateDish on September 26, 2021, 03:01:42 PM
My head explode comment was in regards to Nagy's decision to kick on 4th down instead of going for the TD.

I've said plenty on Nagy being awful on here since year 1.

Just bring in Daboll, start the 2022 season.

Nagy should be fired for a game plan that did zero to help Fields. I think he has shown everyone who he is.

MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 26, 2021, 03:13:32 PM
I never understand when franchises rush young QBs in to start for bad teams. Give them a year to get used to the speed of the NFL and learn how to be a pro without risking injury or breaking their spirit. Take your lumps for a year. Use the better draft position to collect better pieces to put around your future franchise QB.

Some believe "taking your lumps" includes playing for a bad team, and many will argue that's what ultimately helped shape the careers of guys like Manning, Elway, Bradshaw, Newton, Griese, etc, etc, etc. The theory is that if you survive that, and you have talent, it will make you better in the long run.

A relative few believe that you sit the kid for a year and let him learn mostly from the bench "without risking injury or breaking their spirit." Many think that's hard to justify doing today because you have to make decisions on them so early in their careers.

The Bears seemed ready to sit Fields for much of this season, but they felt the injury to Dalton forced their hand.

The ideal situation is if you have a GOOD team but draft a QB anyway, and then you have the luxury of not playing him -- KC with Mahomes, Packers with Rodgers, Dolphins with Marino, etc.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


The Sultan

This is why Pace and Nagy should have never been brought back.  They had their chance with Trubisky and failed.  Now you have drafted another "quarterback of the future," and kept people around who have shown no ability to develop a quarterback.  Which means you will likely have another coaching staff coming in setting Fields' development back further.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Andy Reid taken by ambulance to hospital after Chiefs game.

"Felt ill," was all that was in the report so far.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on September 26, 2021, 04:21:23 PM
The Bears seemed ready to sit Fields for much of this season, but they felt the injury to Dalton forced their hand.

Thats giving the Bears WAYYYY too much credit.  I dont think they had a clue of a cohesive long term plan for Fields.  They were putting Fields in randomly for gimmick plays and alternate looks from the start.  As soon as the Bears fell to 2-4 or 2-5, panic throwing Fields in there cause Dalton wasn't getting it done seemed likely.

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on September 26, 2021, 03:31:44 PM
Time has no meaning when the Lions are involved.   Entire rules have been changed to justify the Lions losing.   Pass interference flags get picked up in playoff gamrs against the Lions.  The same kicker has now made two 60+ yard field goals to beat the Lions.  It is the fate of the Lions.  It is a comedy, not a tragedy.


Vegas should figure out how to do odds on the Lions finding ways to lose no one has seen before.
I remember where I was when Tom Dempsey kicked the 63 yarder back in the day
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Bucs need to sign some defensive backfield help soon
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on September 26, 2021, 05:52:48 PM
Thats giving the Bears WAYYYY too much credit.  I dont think they had a clue of a cohesive long term plan for Fields.  They were putting Fields in randomly for gimmick plays and alternate looks from the start.  As soon as the Bears fell to 2-4 or 2-5, panic throwing Fields in there cause Dalton wasn't getting it done seemed likely.

This!!

dgies9156

There is bad and then there is BEAR BAD!

Bear Bad is brining in an RPO quarterback and sitting him in the pocket, and getting him killed.

Bear Bad is forgetting what a screen pass is as the linemen rush in.

Bear Bad is no chip blocking.

Bear Bad is paying a washed up tight end $10 million and letting Kyle Fuller go.

Bear Bad is trying to build a new stadium in a remote suburb while having a contender for the first choice in the draft because your coach is an idiot.


MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on September 26, 2021, 05:52:48 PM
Thats giving the Bears WAYYYY too much credit.  I dont think they had a clue of a cohesive long term plan for Fields.  They were putting Fields in randomly for gimmick plays and alternate looks from the start.  As soon as the Bears fell to 2-4 or 2-5, panic throwing Fields in there cause Dalton wasn't getting it done seemed likely.

Fair. You're a lot closer to the situation than I am.

Meanwhile....

Thankfully, the "Bucs can go unbeaten" talk is officially done.

Not sure how much longer I'll be able to say this, so I'll scream it now:

FIRST-PLACE PANTHERS!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Quote from: dgies9156 on September 26, 2021, 06:28:05 PM
There is bad and then there is BEAR BAD!

Bear Bad is brining in an RPO quarterback and sitting him in the pocket, and getting him killed.

Bear Bad is forgetting what a screen pass is as the linemen rush in.

Bear Bad is no chip blocking.

Bear Bad is paying a washed up tight end $10 million and letting Kyle Fuller go.

Bear Bad is trying to build a new stadium in a remote suburb while having a contender for the first choice in the draft because your coach is an idiot.
Better than the Lions.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

tower912

Detroit actually did some positive things today.   No moral victories.   But I have gone from thinking they would go 0-16 to thinking they will eke out a couple of wins.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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