2021-2022 NFL Season

[wadesworld]

Like I said. Packers still play in the NFC North. The defense stinks, but the good news is the QBs in the North are Aaron Rodgers, Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins, and Andy Dalton. Decent gap between what the Pack have and what the Pack will see.

And the OLine needs to be better. The good news is they have one of the best OLineman coming back mid season.

[Dish]

Definite first half angst, but then dominated. Glad the Pack are on in primetime again next week, as I think this is going to be a real roller coaster season for them.

That Lions team...woof. That final score of the Niners game was always misleading because of the final 2 minutes. Their defense is injured and really really really awful, which is a tough combo to overcome.

[The Sultan]

I don't understand why the Lions didn't keep running the ball.

[The Sultan]

Also should add that I did tune in for a bit to the Manning cast...and well...I wasn't terribly impressed.  Networks have been falling all over themselves to get Peyton in a booth, but he's no Tony Romo.  And Eli is just Eli.  We will see if this comes together better.

And as for ESPN, I wish they would strip down their production a little.  They missed the Packers rushing and getting the Lions to be called for 12 men because they were too busy with another graphic production.  I wish they would look at how NBC does the EPL and just let the game do the talking instead of feeling they have to entertain constantly between plays. 

[MU82]

Also should add that I did tune in for a bit to the Manning cast...and well...I wasn't terribly impressed.  Networks have been falling all over themselves to get Peyton in a booth, but he's no Tony Romo.  And Eli is just Eli.  We will see if this comes together better.

And as for ESPN, I wish they would strip down their production a little.  They missed the Packers rushing and getting the Lions to be called for 12 men because they were too busy with another graphic production.  I wish they would look at how NBC does the EPL and just let the game do the talking instead of feeling they have to entertain constantly between plays.

3 in the booth is rarely a good thing. 3 yakkers, all constantly believing they need to fill the air space. ESPN's isn't one of the best announcing teams in history. But they know it has to be "entertaining," and the networks have been trying to recreate Gifford-Cosell-Meredith forever.

[The Sultan]

3 in the booth is rarely a good thing. 3 yakkers, all constantly believing they need to fill the air space. ESPN's isn't one of the best announcing teams in history. But they know it has to be "entertaining," and the networks have been trying to recreate Gifford-Cosell-Meredith forever.

Agreed.  Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit are excellent together for college football so there are plenty of examples for ESPN to choose from.  But Levy seems to get lost in the banter with all three.  I would go with Levy and either Griese or Riddick and see what works.  Trying to emulate something from 40 years ago when television production was a much different thing, doesn't make sense to me.

And don't get me started on that disaster of a pre-game show.  For goodness sakes stop yelling please.

[MU82]

Agreed.  Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit are excellent together for college football so there are plenty of examples for ESPN to choose from.  But Levy seems to get lost in the banter with all three.  I would go with Levy and either Griese or Riddick and see what works.  Trying to emulate something from 40 years ago when television production was a much different thing, doesn't make sense to me.

And don't get me started on that disaster of a pre-game show.  For goodness sakes stop yelling please.

I haven't seen the pregame show ... and it sounds like that's something I should continue avoiding, so thanks!

Agree about Fowler and Herbstreit, and agree that maybe Levy would be OK in a 2-man booth.

[cheebs09]

Agreed.  Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit are excellent together for college football so there are plenty of examples for ESPN to choose from.  But Levy seems to get lost in the banter with all three.  I would go with Levy and either Griese or Riddick and see what works.  Trying to emulate something from 40 years ago when television production was a much different thing, doesn't make sense to me.

And don't get me started on that disaster of a pre-game show.  For goodness sakes stop yelling please.

I've not seen much of it, but it seems like they've basically taken the C'mon Man and Jack'd Up segments and extrapolated that to a full show.

[Dish]

I listen to both Bill Simmons and LeBatard's podcasts, and both consistently comment about the over production ESPN puts into everything around their NBA/NFL content. Sultan is spot on about them missing things live last night. They can't let a game just breathe, it's terribly frustrating.

[MU82]

Unvaccinated NFL players living a very different experience than their vaxxed teammates

https://theathletic.com/2828959/2021/09/21/unvaccinated-nfl-players-living-a-very-different-experience-than-their-vaxxed-teammates/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983

When Denzel Perryman reported for training camp in late July, he unabashedly stated his intent to forgo COVID-19 vaccination, saying he was fully prepared to deal with the weighty restrictions placed on unvaccinated NFL players.

"Zero vaccination, period," said Perryman, then on the Panthers' roster. "Nothing against it. I know people who got the vaccination and still got COVID. To me, what's the point?

"I know unvaccinated players can't do this, can't do that. ... It is what it is. It doesn't bother me, though."

Later, having dealt with inconvenient daily COVID-19 testing, eating meals in isolation, constant masking and painstaking social-distancing requirements for seven weeks, Perryman has made an abrupt about-face.

"I ain't gonna lie," he said earlier this month in Las Vegas after being traded to the Raiders. "Too many restrictions going on. Can't even eat with my fellow brothers. I don't like being an outcast."

Yes, life comes at you fast. The Raiders' roster, according to the NFL, is now fully vaccinated. And that means Perryman, too.

"We're segregated," one player said. "Vaxxed over here, unvaxxed over there."

Very smart of the NFL to use the stick after the carrot didn't work.

[cheebs09]

Zadarius Smith has to be unvaxxed based on wearing a mask on the sideline last night, right?

[Herman Cain]

Aaron Jones jewelry has been found in the end zone. Had his fathers ashes contained  in the shape of a football.

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-rb-aaron-jones-confirms-145706504.html

[Jockey]

Unvaccinated NFL players living a very different experience than their vaxxed teammates

https://theathletic.com/2828959/2021/09/21/unvaccinated-nfl-players-living-a-very-different-experience-than-their-vaxxed-teammates/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983

When Denzel Perryman reported for training camp in late July, he unabashedly stated his intent to forgo COVID-19 vaccination, saying he was fully prepared to deal with the weighty restrictions placed on unvaccinated NFL players.

"Zero vaccination, period," said Perryman, then on the Panthers' roster. "Nothing against it. I know people who got the vaccination and still got COVID. To me, what's the point?

"I know unvaccinated players can't do this, can't do that. ... It is what it is. It doesn't bother me, though."

Later, having dealt with inconvenient daily COVID-19 testing, eating meals in isolation, constant masking and painstaking social-distancing requirements for seven weeks, Perryman has made an abrupt about-face.

"I ain't gonna lie," he said earlier this month in Las Vegas after being traded to the Raiders. "Too many restrictions going on. Can't even eat with my fellow brothers. I don't like being an outcast."

Yes, life comes at you fast. The Raiders' roster, according to the NFL, is now fully vaccinated. And that means Perryman, too.

"We're segregated," one player said. "Vaxxed over here, unvaxxed over there."

Very smart of the NFL to use the stick after the carrot didn't work.

Something tells me that Gruden had zero patience with the anti-Baxter's on the team.

[tower912]

Same old Lions.     Depleted secondary already heading into week 3.     Being a Lions defensive back is like being a Spinal Tap drummer.   

[4everwarriors]

Wheel trade ya #20 four a previously used Bike jockstrap. Deel, hey?

[jficke13]

Zadarius Smith has to be unvaxxed based on wearing a mask on the sideline last night, right?

Maybe he's just being extra careful. Probably not. But maybe.

[MU82]

Panthers are 7.5-point road favorites in tomorrow night's game.

Sucker line?

[Silkk the Shaka]

Panthers are 7.5-point road favorites in tomorrow night's game.

Sucker line?

Not with the Panthers' defense playing like it has been to start the season + Davis Mills at QB

[PGsHeroes32]

Panthers are 7.5-point road favorites in tomorrow night's game.

Sucker line?

With Mills at QB I think it's a solidly placed line

[Jockey]

Much as I hate the Queens, I think they are a great play this week at +1.5

[MU82]

Not with the Panthers' defense playing like it has been to start the season + Davis Mills at QB

That's what I keep telling myself. I never bet on Panthers games (or Marquette games), but I obviously hope the oddsmakers are right here.

[Dish]

MO Supreme Court denies the Rams/NFL appeal over their objection to disclosure of financial information towards the pursuit of punitive damages. A protective order would be in place, but if this sucker goes to trial, anything during a hearing is public.

I still can't believe how little attention this story is getting. Having followed it, I believe the city/county want this to go to trial. Any settlement negotiation is going to start at $3-$5 billion. If this goes to trial, once the NFL/Rams lose (which seems very likely as the NFL's legal team has been a total $hit show so far), they'll go through the appellate system and try to eventually get this to the Supreme Court.

[The Sultan]

MO Supreme Court denies the Rams/NFL appeal over their objection to disclosure of financial information towards the pursuit of punitive damages. A protective order would be in place, but if this sucker goes to trial, anything during a hearing is public.

I still can't believe how little attention this story is getting. Having followed it, I believe the city/county want this to go to trial. Any settlement negotiation is going to start at $3-$5 billion. If this goes to trial, once the NFL/Rams lose (which seems very likely as the NFL's legal team has been a total $hit show so far), they'll go through the appellate system and try to eventually get this to the Supreme Court.

Thank you for the updates.

[Uncle Rico]

MO Supreme Court denies the Rams/NFL appeal over their objection to disclosure of financial information towards the pursuit of punitive damages. A protective order would be in place, but if this sucker goes to trial, anything during a hearing is public.

I still can't believe how little attention this story is getting. Having followed it, I believe the city/county want this to go to trial. Any settlement negotiation is going to start at $3-$5 billion. If this goes to trial, once the NFL/Rams lose (which seems very likely as the NFL's legal team has been a total $hit show so far), they'll go through the appellate system and try to eventually get this to the Supreme Court.

NFL doesn't want it covered.  Media partners will oblige

[wadesworld]

Elton Jenkins not practicing heading into a game against the 49ers is not ideal.