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Author Topic: 2021-2022 NFL Season  (Read 269972 times)

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #575 on: August 17, 2021, 02:50:25 PM »
In his preseason debut, Mitch Trubisky led the Bears to touchdowns on his first two drives, hittong on his first 10 passes without an incompletion. He finished the game 18-for-25 for 166 yards and a touchdown, with a passer rating of 103.1.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #576 on: August 17, 2021, 03:22:59 PM »
It was a sham and disgrace from the start - letting this egomaniac take a roster spot. He had as much of a chance getting back to the NFL as he did being part of the Mets lineup.

The whole concept was Ill-conceived . The foundational skill a tight end must have is blocking. Without the ability to block, hard to make it on the field and do all the other things.

We went to the game Saturday and several things were evident.

1. Tebow was no where near the 255 that he was advertised. He was more like 225. He may have bulked up to 255 prior to the start of camp, but that all burned off in training camp. He was much smaller than all the other tight ends and positively puny compared to the people he needed to block.

2 Because Tebow had no experience as a Tight End, he could not rely on technique to make the blocks as an alternative to sheer physicality.

3. Tebow was not on special teams, because he was a massive liability for blocking, which effectively shut him out of being useful on gadget plays.

4. To his credit Tebow ran some nice routes, things you can see in the stadium but not on TV. A couple times when the QB was in trouble. Tebow smartly ran to spaces where a good QB, with vision ,  would have got him the ball, unfortunately he was playing with the 3rd and 4th stringers.

Ultimately I think the big mistake Tebow made in his career, was not going to Canada early on when he was having a hard time sticking with the NFL. He would have had a very good career up there, and maybe after many years of working on his throwing motion, he might have made it back to the big league . There have been a handful of guys who took that route and finished their careers in the NFL.  The most famous being Warren Moon,
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #577 on: August 17, 2021, 04:34:28 PM »
Ultimately I think the big mistake Tebow made in his career, was not going to Canada early on when he was having a hard time sticking with the NFL. He would have had a very good career up there, and maybe after many years of working on his throwing motion, he might have made it back to the big league . There have been a handful of guys who took that route and finished their careers in the NFL.  The most famous being Warren Moon,

I actually disagree.  The CFL is a passing league first and foremost, as the rules necessitate.  Tebow with his terrible throwing motion and slow release would have struggled mightily up there.

He was an incredible college player and winner, but short of completely overhauling his throwing motion, he was never gonna have a pro career as a QB.  He should have switched to TE WAYY earlier in his career and he may have had a shot.  But he refused to.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #578 on: August 17, 2021, 04:38:15 PM »
He could have been Taysom Hill before Taysom Hill was Taysom Hill
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #579 on: August 17, 2021, 05:55:49 PM »
I actually disagree.  The CFL is a passing league first and foremost, as the rules necessitate.  Tebow with his terrible throwing motion and slow release would have struggled mightily up there.

He was an incredible college player and winner, but short of completely overhauling his throwing motion, he was never gonna have a pro career as a QB.  He should have switched to TE WAYY earlier in his career and he may have had a shot.  But he refused to.

He could have been Taysom Hill before Taysom Hill was Taysom Hill

I thought the CFL wider field may have helped him. Maybe not ,as you point out.

Unfortunately Tebow did not embrace being a tight end early in his career and as pointed out above he could have become Taysom Hill.

I played golf once with Doug Flutie ,just after he turned 50 ,and he was absolutely convinced he still had what it took to play in the NFL. Was  humorously showing me all his strategies for clearing out of the pocket etc . So some of these guys never give it up. I guess that is what made them outstanding in the first play .

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #580 on: August 17, 2021, 07:06:33 PM »
Tebow Gowne

Gonna have a heck of an NHL career now!
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #581 on: August 17, 2021, 07:20:24 PM »
He could have been Taysom Hill before Taysom Hill was Taysom Hill

Maybe, but I think there were 2 key differences.

1) Taysom Hill is a lot quicker.  4.45 40 vs a 4.75

2) Even as a "QB", Hill was sort of "ill do whatever" for Payton.  Where as Tebow saw himself as the consummate QB.

I think being that swiss army knife role is as mental as physical, and Tebow never had a chance of thinking he was anything but QB1

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #582 on: August 18, 2021, 07:57:06 PM »
Clay is one of my favorite all time Packers, but there’s a good reason he’s still sitting without a team since 2019. But try and talk any logic with our ego maniacal, jackass QB.

You do realize that this never happened?

Turns out that maybe the jackass resides in your mirror.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #583 on: August 18, 2021, 08:16:04 PM »
You do realize that this never happened?

Turns out that maybe the jackass resides in your mirror.

You’re doing a told you so AFTER the full story comes out?!?!  You indicated no skepticism about its truthfulness at the time, nor did anyone else.  I mean, are you that desperate for a gotcha on me?  And it’s sticking in your craw 4 days later still to go back and bring it up again?  Obsessed at all?

You go on with your man crush on Rodgers.  We disagree about him. Grow the f up. 

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #584 on: August 19, 2021, 08:48:05 AM »
This was the Packers' throwback I expected to see, but these kick all kinds of ass. Make these the primary IMO.

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-introduce-history-inspired-alternate-uniform

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #585 on: August 19, 2021, 09:17:37 AM »
This was the Packers' throwback I expected to see, but these kick all kinds of ass. Make these the primary IMO.

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-introduce-history-inspired-alternate-uniform
I’m a big fan

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #586 on: August 19, 2021, 09:54:07 AM »
I have ZERO love for the Packers and find their color scheme/jerseys to be unpleasant...but these are CLEAN.  Credit where credit is due, these are fantastic

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #587 on: August 19, 2021, 01:28:33 PM »
This was the Packers' throwback I expected to see, but these kick all kinds of ass. Make these the primary IMO.

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-introduce-history-inspired-alternate-uniform

No. Why we’d want to look like the  Oregon Ducks is beyond me.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #588 on: August 19, 2021, 01:31:54 PM »
No. Why we’d want to look like the  Oregon Ducks is beyond me.

Does everything make you sad?  Because you certainly give off a ton of Eeyore stank.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #589 on: August 20, 2021, 07:43:44 AM »
Nvm, wrong thread
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #590 on: August 21, 2021, 01:13:29 PM »
How much do you think the Bears would need to give up to get Trubisky? I think a first and 3rd rounder should do it.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #591 on: August 21, 2021, 01:40:39 PM »
How much do you think the Bears would need to give up to get Trubisky? I think a first and 3rd rounder should do it.

Maybe this will end Dalton's chance of starting over Fields?

But this is so typical Bears it's comical and quite sad.  We'll be lucky to win 5 games. 

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #592 on: August 21, 2021, 01:42:12 PM »
Mitch causing another Bears loss.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #593 on: August 21, 2021, 02:09:24 PM »
You cannot in good conscience start Andy Dalton over Justin Fields.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #594 on: August 23, 2021, 05:36:01 PM »
After the way last season ended, why did the Packers bring back Kevin King?
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #595 on: August 23, 2021, 05:40:12 PM »
After the way last season ended, why did the Packers bring back Kevin King?

Because he was hardly terrible.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #596 on: August 23, 2021, 05:43:33 PM »
I think it was strictly a response to how bad the backups are/were. I posted here after the 1st exhibition game that Josh Jackson needed to go. Gutey took my advice a couple days later. King was bad in a few games last year, but was still worlds better than any of the backups. If Stokes shows promise, King will not be back next year.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #597 on: August 23, 2021, 06:45:31 PM »
Because he was hardly terrible.
Not sure what "hardly terrible" means, but the lack of  interest he got  in free agency for a cornerback,  and the low 1 year deal he received tells you what you need to know about his level of play. Having said that, it was worth bringing him back on a cheap one year deal.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #598 on: August 24, 2021, 11:39:41 AM »
Dalton named the starter.  He certainly looks the part of Bears starting quarterback.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #599 on: August 24, 2021, 11:41:54 AM »
Dalton named the starter.  He certainly looks the part of Bears starting quarterback.

Better to sacrifice him versus the Rams than Fields with the Bears OL.

 

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