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jficke13

Quote from: MUBurrow on August 05, 2021, 03:39:19 PM
I get the impression that Cousins isn't a bad guy, but he's just terribly awkwardly weird and alienated from the rest of the teams he plays on.

I mean sure, one can be innocently ignorant and foolish and thus not a bad guy, but also profoundly and dangerously wrong. He gives off the impression of being earnest in his wrong beliefs. While I don't necessary think he's a "bad guy" I do think he's a doofus that is endangering his team in a reckless and needless manner.

JWags85

Quote from: jficke13 on August 05, 2021, 03:50:56 PM
I mean sure, one can be innocently ignorant and foolish and thus not a bad guy, but also profoundly and dangerously wrong. He gives off the impression of being earnest in his wrong beliefs. While I don't necessary think he's a "bad guy" I do think he's a doofus that is endangering his team in a reckless and needless manner.

I think it was pretty clear he was a doofus before any of this stuff

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: tower912 on August 05, 2021, 05:12:31 PM
https://www.mlive.com/sports/2021/08/former-msu-qb-kirk-cousins-at-peace-with-decision-not-to-get-vaccinated-ahead-of-season.html

If I die, I die.

"I'm gonna let nature do its course. Survival-of-the-fittest kind of approach. And just say, if it knocks me out, it knocks me out. I'm going to be OK. You know, even if I die. If I die, I die. I kind of have peace about that."


Survival of the fittest. The Right's way of saying "I don't care if you die".

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on August 05, 2021, 02:47:21 PM
Take a breath man, 90% of your posts across threads are kill, murder, killers, murders, we get it.  You're not adding anything.

We need constant reminders of what these people are doing.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on August 05, 2021, 05:22:38 PM
We need constant reminders of what these people are doing.

No we don't, this is a messageboard, not CNN or your local news.  Nobody is being swayed by hysterical and repeated rantings from either side.  Its not like this is some new source of information for an ever increasing and growing population.  Its for your own self satisfaction, plain and simple.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

I'm still irrationally annoyed that John Lynch gets into the HOF before LeRoy Butler.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on August 06, 2021, 12:07:16 AM
And if I give it to my loved ones, oh well. They had a good run, too.

He said he will do everything possible - including being placed in a plexiglass bubble - to prevent getting or giving Covid. Everything obviously does not include the most obvious thing.


You almost have to give him a pass though as he is not the nuttiest one in his family by a mile. His dad is full right-wing crazy. As in Ds are colluding with Satan crazy.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Jockey on August 06, 2021, 01:15:37 PM
You almost have to give him a pass though as he is not the nuttiest one in his family by a mile. His dad is full right-wing crazy. As in Ds are colluding with Satan crazy.
He's on to us. He will need to be eliminated.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.


tower912

#536
That thinking is consistent with his religious and regional upbringing.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 06, 2021, 12:06:31 PM
I'm still irrationally annoyed that John Lynch gets into the HOF before LeRoy Butler.

There is nothing irrational about it.  LeRoy Butler was one of (if not the best) safeties in the 90s.

hairy worthen

Quote from: Jockey on August 05, 2021, 02:33:11 PM
He is demanding his right to infect and kill people. No wonder he says he wants to keep it private.
Hmmm, if the unvaccinated are the ones  dying, How is someone else killing them? Seems like they are the ones taking the risk by not getting a shot

cheebs09

Quote from: hairy worthen on August 07, 2021, 09:28:01 AM
Hmmm, if the unvaccinated are the ones  dying, How is someone else killing them? Seems like they are the ones taking the risk by not getting a shot

Considering there are many under 12 who can't get vaccinated, they are putting those people at higher risk. Also, I believe the variants are spreading due to the large number of unvaccinated, which may result in more variants.

Babybluejeans

Knowing people on the inside of the Washington football team, it's been well-established for a long time that Cousins is a seriously weird dude. (And doesn't get social cues.) Few players felt loyalty to him.

Also, never underestimate the ignorance of professional athletes.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB

I'm not much of an NFL guy but I would highly recommend listening to Charles Woodson's HOF speech.  Absolutely incredible.  One of the most passionate and powerful speeches I've ever heard. 

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Babybluejeans on August 07, 2021, 10:32:36 AM
Knowing people on the inside of the Washington football team, it's been well-established for a long time that Cousins is a seriously weird dude. (And doesn't get social cues.) Few players felt loyalty to him.

Also, never underestimate the ignorance of professional athletes.

I've been a big stats guy but very much coming around to personality fit being a major factor in success. Especially in a QB, leadership style & personality permeate throughout the team, and it's vitally important to have great qualities in that area. If a guy can't inspire his teammates or command a locker room, doesn't really matter what kind of stats he can put up, ultimately. The team will always underachieve.

Cousins is an "efficient" QB but appears to be severely deficient in a critical area, and it seems to me that the Vikings will underachieve for as long as he's at the helm.

Babybluejeans

Totally agree, Silkk. I recall an interview with Drew Brees a few years ago and he was asked what percentage of being a great NFL QB is comprised of "intangibles" like you mention (versus talent). He said 80%. Brady has made similar comments. And if anyone is proof of its truth, it's those two.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Silkk the Shaka on August 09, 2021, 11:34:58 AM
I've been a big stats guy but very much coming around to personality fit being a major factor in success. Especially in a QB, leadership style & personality permeate throughout the team, and it's vitally important to have great qualities in that area. If a guy can't inspire his teammates or command a locker room, doesn't really matter what kind of stats he can put up, ultimately. The team will always underachieve.

Cousins is an "efficient" QB but appears to be severely deficient in a critical area, and it seems to me that the Vikings will underachieve for as long as he's at the helm.
Jay Cutler says hi.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

From Charlotte Observer:

As of Monday morning, the Panthers' vaccination rate was 96% of players having received at least the first COVID-19 shot and 91.5% fully vaccinated, per a league source with knowledge of the situation. The 96% is eighth-best in the league. Overall, 91.7% of players on NFL rosters have at least one shot, and 80.8% are fully vaccinated.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Spotcheck Billy

I assume some un-vaxxed players that may have a borderline chance to make the final cut may get axed in lieu of a vaxxed player this year.

Jockey

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on August 11, 2021, 09:54:08 AM
I assume some un-vaxxed players that may have a borderline chance to make the final cut may get axed in lieu of a vaxxed player this year.

I don't think there will be many because of what you say. The players know this too and I would guess most of these marginal guys are vaccinated.

GB Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on August 11, 2021, 07:15:24 AM
From Charlotte Observer:

As of Monday morning, the Panthers' vaccination rate was 96% of players having received at least the first COVID-19 shot and 91.5% fully vaccinated, per a league source with knowledge of the situation. The 96% is eighth-best in the league. Overall, 91.7% of players on NFL rosters have at least one shot, and 80.8% are fully vaccinated.
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NFL should shout that from the rafters and make sure that vaccine mandates/proof of negative test is a pre-req to get into the doors as a fan.

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