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Pakuni

In his preseason debut, Mitch Trubisky led the Bears to touchdowns on his first two drives, hittong on his first 10 passes without an incompletion. He finished the game 18-for-25 for 166 yards and a touchdown, with a passer rating of 103.1.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Jockey on August 17, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
It was a sham and disgrace from the start - letting this egomaniac take a roster spot. He had as much of a chance getting back to the NFL as he did being part of the Mets lineup.

The whole concept was Ill-conceived . The foundational skill a tight end must have is blocking. Without the ability to block, hard to make it on the field and do all the other things.

We went to the game Saturday and several things were evident.

1. Tebow was no where near the 255 that he was advertised. He was more like 225. He may have bulked up to 255 prior to the start of camp, but that all burned off in training camp. He was much smaller than all the other tight ends and positively puny compared to the people he needed to block.

2 Because Tebow had no experience as a Tight End, he could not rely on technique to make the blocks as an alternative to sheer physicality.

3. Tebow was not on special teams, because he was a massive liability for blocking, which effectively shut him out of being useful on gadget plays.

4. To his credit Tebow ran some nice routes, things you can see in the stadium but not on TV. A couple times when the QB was in trouble. Tebow smartly ran to spaces where a good QB, with vision ,  would have got him the ball, unfortunately he was playing with the 3rd and 4th stringers.

Ultimately I think the big mistake Tebow made in his career, was not going to Canada early on when he was having a hard time sticking with the NFL. He would have had a very good career up there, and maybe after many years of working on his throwing motion, he might have made it back to the big league . There have been a handful of guys who took that route and finished their careers in the NFL.  The most famous being Warren Moon,
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

JWags85

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 17, 2021, 03:22:59 PM
Ultimately I think the big mistake Tebow made in his career, was not going to Canada early on when he was having a hard time sticking with the NFL. He would have had a very good career up there, and maybe after many years of working on his throwing motion, he might have made it back to the big league . There have been a handful of guys who took that route and finished their careers in the NFL.  The most famous being Warren Moon,

I actually disagree.  The CFL is a passing league first and foremost, as the rules necessitate.  Tebow with his terrible throwing motion and slow release would have struggled mightily up there.

He was an incredible college player and winner, but short of completely overhauling his throwing motion, he was never gonna have a pro career as a QB.  He should have switched to TE WAYY earlier in his career and he may have had a shot.  But he refused to.

The Sultan

He could have been Taysom Hill before Taysom Hill was Taysom Hill
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Herman Cain

Quote from: JWags85 on August 17, 2021, 04:34:28 PM
I actually disagree.  The CFL is a passing league first and foremost, as the rules necessitate.  Tebow with his terrible throwing motion and slow release would have struggled mightily up there.

He was an incredible college player and winner, but short of completely overhauling his throwing motion, he was never gonna have a pro career as a QB.  He should have switched to TE WAYY earlier in his career and he may have had a shot.  But he refused to.

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 17, 2021, 04:38:15 PM
He could have been Taysom Hill before Taysom Hill was Taysom Hill

I thought the CFL wider field may have helped him. Maybe not ,as you point out.

Unfortunately Tebow did not embrace being a tight end early in his career and as pointed out above he could have become Taysom Hill.

I played golf once with Doug Flutie ,just after he turned 50 ,and he was absolutely convinced he still had what it took to play in the NFL. Was  humorously showing me all his strategies for clearing out of the pocket etc . So some of these guys never give it up. I guess that is what made them outstanding in the first play .

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 17, 2021, 04:38:15 PM
He could have been Taysom Hill before Taysom Hill was Taysom Hill

Maybe, but I think there were 2 key differences.

1) Taysom Hill is a lot quicker.  4.45 40 vs a 4.75

2) Even as a "QB", Hill was sort of "ill do whatever" for Payton.  Where as Tebow saw himself as the consummate QB.

I think being that swiss army knife role is as mental as physical, and Tebow never had a chance of thinking he was anything but QB1

Jockey

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 14, 2021, 02:53:51 PM
Clay is one of my favorite all time Packers, but there's a good reason he's still sitting without a team since 2019. But try and talk any logic with our ego maniacal, jackass QB.

You do realize that this never happened?

Turns out that maybe the jackass resides in your mirror.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Jockey on August 18, 2021, 07:57:06 PM
You do realize that this never happened?

Turns out that maybe the jackass resides in your mirror.

You're doing a told you so AFTER the full story comes out?!?!  You indicated no skepticism about its truthfulness at the time, nor did anyone else.  I mean, are you that desperate for a gotcha on me?  And it's sticking in your craw 4 days later still to go back and bring it up again?  Obsessed at all?

You go on with your man crush on Rodgers.  We disagree about him. Grow the f up. 

GB Warrior

This was the Packers' throwback I expected to see, but these kick all kinds of ass. Make these the primary IMO.

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-introduce-history-inspired-alternate-uniform

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: GB Warrior on August 19, 2021, 08:48:05 AM
This was the Packers' throwback I expected to see, but these kick all kinds of ass. Make these the primary IMO.

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-introduce-history-inspired-alternate-uniform
I'm a big fan

JWags85

I have ZERO love for the Packers and find their color scheme/jerseys to be unpleasant...but these are CLEAN.  Credit where credit is due, these are fantastic

HutchwasClutch

#587
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 19, 2021, 08:48:05 AM
This was the Packers' throwback I expected to see, but these kick all kinds of ass. Make these the primary IMO.

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-introduce-history-inspired-alternate-uniform

No. Why we'd want to look like the  Oregon Ducks is beyond me.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 19, 2021, 01:28:33 PM
No. Why we'd want to look like the  Oregon Ducks is beyond me.

Does everything make you sad?  Because you certainly give off a ton of Eeyore stank.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

#589
Nvm, wrong thread
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


GB Warrior

How much do you think the Bears would need to give up to get Trubisky? I think a first and 3rd rounder should do it.

MuggsyB

Quote from: GB Warrior on August 21, 2021, 01:13:29 PM
How much do you think the Bears would need to give up to get Trubisky? I think a first and 3rd rounder should do it.

Maybe this will end Dalton's chance of starting over Fields?

But this is so typical Bears it's comical and quite sad.  We'll be lucky to win 5 games. 

ZiggysFryBoy

Mitch causing another Bears loss.

ChitownSpaceForRent

You cannot in good conscience start Andy Dalton over Justin Fields.

TSmith34, Inc.

After the way last season ended, why did the Packers bring back Kevin King?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

The Sultan

Quote from: TSmith34 on August 23, 2021, 05:36:01 PM
After the way last season ended, why did the Packers bring back Kevin King?

Because he was hardly terrible.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

I think it was strictly a response to how bad the backups are/were. I posted here after the 1st exhibition game that Josh Jackson needed to go. Gutey took my advice a couple days later. King was bad in a few games last year, but was still worlds better than any of the backups. If Stokes shows promise, King will not be back next year.

hairy worthen

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 23, 2021, 05:40:12 PM
Because he was hardly terrible.
Not sure what "hardly terrible" means, but the lack of  interest he got  in free agency for a cornerback,  and the low 1 year deal he received tells you what you need to know about his level of play. Having said that, it was worth bringing him back on a cheap one year deal.

wadesworld

Dalton named the starter.  He certainly looks the part of Bears starting quarterback.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: BLM on August 24, 2021, 11:39:41 AM
Dalton named the starter.  He certainly looks the part of Bears starting quarterback.

Better to sacrifice him versus the Rams than Fields with the Bears OL.

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