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79Warrior

Quote from: real chili 83 on April 11, 2021, 01:22:53 PM
Flipping through channels this morning, Joel Osteen was on.  That dude really creeps me out. Looks bat sh1t crazy.

In the .8 seconds it took me to flip to the next channel, Osteen described the unenlightened as a bunch of "uncircumcised Philistines".

Adopting this term for the scoop intellectuals.

That dude leads a luxury lifestyle and does not pay a dollar of tax.

Jockey

#51
Quote from: panda on April 10, 2021, 01:37:54 PM
Restraining order?

A restraining order from the entire city? I don't think that is how they work. ?-(

Why would people even post this kind of stuff?

naginiF

Quote from: 79Warrior on April 11, 2021, 04:40:43 PM
That dude leads a luxury lifestyle and does not pay a dollar of tax.

- He's a carnival barker who proves a large percentage of US adults are idiots
- I need a good reason why churches are not taxed
- He's either certifiable or there is 0% chance he believes in god
- He'd poll at 15% for the GOP primaries in 2024

MU82

Quote from: naginiF on April 11, 2021, 07:56:02 PM
- He's a carnival barker who proves a large percentage of US adults are idiots
- I need a good reason why churches are not taxed
- He's either certifiable or there is 0% chance he believes in god
- He'd poll at 15% for the GOP primaries in 2024

Fun, accurate comment.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: naginiF on April 11, 2021, 07:56:02 PM
- He's a carnival barker who proves a large percentage of US adults are idiots
- I need a good reason why churches are not taxed
- He's either certifiable or there is 0% chance he believes in god
- He'd poll at 15% for the GOP primaries in 2024

The credit that I'll give Osteen is that he's reasonable progressive for a televangelist and he makes the majority of his money through books.  He skirts around that "prosperity gospel" but is at least moral enough to not plunge into it feet first.

Hardcore prosperity doctrine guys like Kenneth Copeland (who I think may actually be pure evil), Creflo Dollar, and Jesse Duplantis are worth 9 figures (Copeland is worth half a billion with a B) purely telling people that they are prophets and preaching how God wants them to be wealthy. Their respective defense of private jets funded by their congregations is WILD

Pakuni

Quote from: 79Warrior on April 11, 2021, 04:40:43 PM
That dude leads a luxury lifestyle and does not pay a dollar of tax.

Not to defend the grifter, but of course he pays taxes.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: naginiF on April 11, 2021, 07:56:02 PM
- He's a carnival barker who proves a large percentage of US adults are idiots
- I need a good reason why churches are not taxed
- He's either certifiable or there is 0% chance he believes in god
- He'd poll at 15% for the GOP primaries in 2024

Good reason not to tax churches:

Most churches are small and have little money.  They operate on very tight budgets.  The rich megachurches, which are the vast minority, can afford to pay taxes and would probably use the taxes as fundraising rallying cry.

So the taxes would hurt small churches the most, and the megachurches, which are the supposed target of the proposed tax, would largely be unaffected.  If small churches are forced to close for financial reasons as a result of taxes, more people would turn to the megachurches.

The real problem is people not seeing these megachurches for what they are.  If people want to donate to a church, they should be a little more discerning with their money and donate to a smaller, community focused church.


79Warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on April 11, 2021, 09:34:09 PM
Not to defend the grifter, but of course he pays taxes.

Really? He funnels everything through his ministry, which is tax exempt. You might want to do some digging on all the scams the televangelists run.

MU82

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 11, 2021, 09:35:07 PM
Good reason not to tax churches:

Most churches are small and have little money.  They operate on very tight budgets.  The rich megachurches, which are the vast minority, can afford to pay taxes and would probably use the taxes as fundraising rallying cry.

So the taxes would hurt small churches the most, and the megachurches, which are the supposed target of the proposed tax, would largely be unaffected.  If small churches are forced to close for financial reasons as a result of taxes, more people would turn to the megachurches.

The real problem is people not seeing these megachurches for what they are.  If people want to donate to a church, they should be a little more discerning with their money and donate to a smaller, community focused church.

OK, so you make the tax code for churches progressive, just as it is supposed to be for people.

The little church pays no taxes. The megachurch is in the mega bracket.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

rocky_warrior

Quote from: JWags85 on April 11, 2021, 09:32:15 PM
half a billion with a B

That seems closer to 500 million, with an M.

I hope Perez has that kinda dough someday.

real chili 83

Quote from: Pakuni on April 11, 2021, 09:34:09 PM
Not to defend the grifter, but of course he pays taxes.

^^^^^^^
Uncircumcised Philistine.

pbiflyer

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 12, 2021, 02:03:34 AM
That seems closer to 500 million, with an M.

I hope Perez has that kinda dough someday.

Quit trying to derail the thread by posting stuff on topic!

Autoengineer

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 11, 2021, 09:40:58 AM
That was my first guess as well.
Thanks for sharing. 

keefe

Quote from: real chili 83 on April 12, 2021, 05:18:15 AM
^^^^^^^
Uncircumcised Philistine.

Pretty clear-cut, eh Chili


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burger

After the last two days.....

Do you now know why I asked the question.....

Bates and Aidoo are still out there.....

The walk-on scholly is certainly gone.....

But we have players clamoring to play for Shaka......

MU in a very good recruiting situation......

I also think it is interesting he is going young with players that want to play for him, his system,  and the university.....

Very little and nothing to this point out of the transfer portal......

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: naginiF on April 11, 2021, 07:56:02 PM
- He's a carnival barker who proves a large percentage of US adults are idiots
- I need a good reason why churches are not taxed
- He's either certifiable or there is 0% chance he believes in god
- He'd poll at 15% for the GOP primaries in 2024

as George Carlin once said, we could wipe out the national debt by taxing the Catholic Church on their real estate holdings alone.

Don't forget, he refused to open his church buildings to people impacted by the hurricanes a few years ago, while a dude who owned a mattress store did.

And now, back to MU basketball.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 14, 2021, 11:08:58 AM
while a dude who owned a mattress store did.

Hey,  Mattress Mack is a national treasure
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: burger on April 14, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
After the last two days.....

Do you now know why I asked the question.....

Bates and Aidoo are still out there.....

The walk-on scholly is certainly gone.....

But we have players clamoring to play for Shaka......

MU in a very good recruiting situation......

I also think it is interesting he is going young with players that want to play for him, his system,  and the university.....

Very little and nothing to this point out of the transfer portal......

Yes, the one thing I was worried about was that most of Shaka's recruits at Texas were in state.  It brings up the potential that Texas itself is the magnet and not Shaka all the time.   Otherwise Shaka doesn't seem to have a pipeline all over the country which would designate him as an elite recruiter.   That was a huge question mark for me about him at MU - how much of his ability to recruit would take a hit here?  So far it's a non issue, but I will be wary until we get an out of state player that's top 50/top 100.  Curious to see if Shaka will be limited at MU.  Hopefully that's not the case. 

jficke13

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 14, 2021, 11:08:58 AM
as George Carlin once said, we could wipe out the national debt by taxing the Catholic Church on their real estate holdings alone.

Don't forget, he refused to open his church buildings to people impacted by the hurricanes a few years ago, while a dude who owned a mattress store did.

And now, back to MU basketball.

Some real France 1791 energy right here.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 14, 2021, 01:03:13 PM
Yes, the one thing I was worried about was that most of Shaka's recruits at Texas were in state.  It brings up the potential that Texas itself is the magnet and not Shaka all the time.   Otherwise Shaka doesn't seem to have a pipeline all over the country which would designate him as an elite recruiter.   That was a huge question mark for me about him at MU - how much of his ability to recruit would take a hit here?  So far it's a non issue, but I will be wary until we get an out of state player that's top 50/top 100.  Curious to see if Shaka will be limited at MU.  Hopefully that's not the case.

Well, he just landed kids from NC and IO, the latter 91 on Rivals.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 14, 2021, 12:53:39 PM
Hey,  Mattress Mack is a national treasure

That's his name.

Yes, he is.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

jfp61

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 14, 2021, 01:03:13 PM
Yes, the one thing I was worried about was that most of Shaka's recruits at Texas were in state.  It brings up the potential that Texas itself is the magnet and not Shaka all the time.   Otherwise Shaka doesn't seem to have a pipeline all over the country which would designate him as an elite recruiter.   That was a huge question mark for me about him at MU - how much of his ability to recruit would take a hit here?  So far it's a non issue, but I will be wary until we get an out of state player that's top 50/top 100.  Curious to see if Shaka will be limited at MU.  Hopefully that's not the case.

Kai Jones- Bahamas
Courtney Ramey- St. Louis
Kamaka Hepa- Oregon
Jaxson Hayes- Cincinatti
Mo Bamba-  Pennsylvania
Matt Coleman- Virgina
Jericho Sims- Minnesota

And most impressive of all he had a top 25 recruiting class at VCU

GOO

Does Perez have to sit a year, if he decided to transfer now, since he previously transferred?

hairy worthen

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 14, 2021, 12:53:39 PM
Hey,  Mattress Mack is a national treasure

Well at least a Texas State treasure. I would guess not many outside of Texas would know who he is.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: GOO on April 16, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
Does Perez have to sit a year, if he decided to transfer now, since he previously transferred?

Yes.

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