Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.

[1SE]

Given the namesake of our new HC, I wonder if there's not room to talk about bringing back the Warriors in an EDI friendly way. Recognizing that "warrior" culture is not unique to one people/nation/race/sex but instead is seen across an inclusive range of peoples/nations/cultures/sexes and explicitly adopting it in that way with logo/branding reflective of the same. Something like a text-only logo (ala Washington football team) or maybe something like the silhouette of 5 young athletes in huddle with their arms on each others' shoulders (ala Shaka's "relationships" focus).

MU could then have multiple live mascots for different warrior cultures, developed in consultation with those cultures, and only to be portrayed by individuals from that culture. Perhaps even only develop those mascots from cultures who approach the University (i.e. so the development of a mascot requires an active "opt in" from the community in question.) Maybe given the preponderance of Irish-American students/alum the "base" warrior could be a Celtic warrior - as the father of Irish kids I know I certainly wouldn't take any offense to that. And I can tell you a Celtic warrior would be a hell of a lot less offensive than "Clashmore Mike" at ND.  You could even have a female one based on the banféinní!

[brewcity77]

In Wisconsin, you know Fall is coming when the leaves start to turn. On Scoop, you know the off-season is coming when the "bring back Warriors" threads start to bloom.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

As much as we'd all love it's not happening.

Bricky has a better chance of returning to his 5 minutes of fame.

[PhillyWarrior]

I also suggested this based on who Shaka was named after but it's not. Gonna. Happen.
There is no chance in this Uber woke environment

[StillAWarrior]

As much as we'd all love it's not happening.

Bricky has a better chance of returning to his 5 minutes of fame.

Personally, I subscribe to the school of thought that Marquette is contractually forbidden to return to the Warriors mascot. I don't know if we'll ever learn whether this is true, or just a rumor.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

So, Marquette isn't going to pursue a multi million dollar re-branding campaign during a cash strapped pandemic, which I may add was brought about because of the origins of the first name of our current basketball coach who has been with us for less than a week, because of the 'woke environment'. 

I love scoop. 

[tower912]

How about this... Raise $1 billion, change the name back.

Lovell needs to raise money.   Warriors is a hot button.   Offer to completely sell out for an obscene amount of money, come back with gender inclusive, non-native-American imagery.

[DienerTime34]

I also suggested this based on who Shaka was named after but it's not. Gonna. Happen.
There is no chance in this Uber woke environment

What about a Lyft woke environment?

[Dr. Blackheart]

What about a Lyft woke environment?

Scoop at its finest

[Warrior of Law]

Bricky never had a chance.  It was a fun 5 days.

[mu_hilltopper]

EDI?  What does Electronic Data Interchange have to do with Warriors?

[mileskishnish72]

The ND logo seeks to portray my forebears as pugnacious.

Would that they had been even more so.

[Scoop Snoop]

Personally, I subscribe to the school of thought that Marquette is contractually forbidden to return to the Warriors mascot. I don't know if we'll ever learn whether this is true, or just a rumor.

The heart of posting on Scoop! Truth is whatever we say it is, and we love rumors.

[StillAWarrior]

The heart of posting on Scoop! Truth is whatever we say it is, and we love rumors.

Indeed we do.  This made me laugh.

[muwarrior69]

If 2 million dollars can't bring it back, its not coming back. Were stuck with the fluffy chicken.

[The Sultan]

**If this were a contractual obligation, one would like that the Vice Chair of the Board of Trustees would know this when he made the $1 million offer in a public forum.

**$2 million was never going to be enough for a school that raises something like $90 million a year.

[StillAWarrior]

**If this were a contractual obligation, one would like that the Vice Chair of the Board of Trustees would know this when he made the $1 million offer in a public forum.

**$2 million was never going to be enough for a school that raises something like $90 million a year.

You make a fair point. However, one would also think that the Vice Chair of the Board of Trustees: 1) would have been aware that the idea was a non-starter even if there was no contractual prohibition; and/or 2) might have believed that the contract could be renegotiated.

The fact that his offer resulted in the "we'll consider any change but Warriors" would suggest that he wasn't entirely in the loop about what was possible.

[The Sultan]

You make a fair point. However, one would also think that the Vice Chair of the Board of Trustees: 1) would have been aware that the idea was a non-starter even if there was no contractual prohibition; and/or 2) might have believed that the contract could be renegotiated.

The fact that his offer resulted in the "we'll consider any change but Warriors" would suggest that he wasn't entirely in the loop about what was possible.

That may be true.  I would also suggest that it was extremely inappropriate for a member of the Board of Trustees to make such an offer in a public setting without first talking to university leadership about it.

But regardless, $2 million would never have been enough to make the change. 

[StillAWarrior]

That may be true.  I would also suggest that it was extremely inappropriate for a member of the Board of Trustees to make such an offer in a public setting without first talking to university leadership about it.

But regardless, $2 million would never have been enough to make the change.

I agree on both points.

[Scoop Snoop]

How about this... Raise $1 billion, change the name back.

Lovell needs to raise money.   Warriors is a hot button.   Offer to completely sell out for an obscene amount of money, come back with gender inclusive, non-native-American imagery.

Fine! Joan of Arc in full armor, charging onto the court on her mighty horse during a time out and scattering the opponents' huddle, demolishing their Gatorade cart, and then charging towards their cheerleaders who make a hasty trip to their locker room for a fresh set of clothes.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think the OP meant DEI not EDI

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Fine! Joan of Arc in full armor, charging onto the court on her mighty horse during a time out and scattering the opponents' huddle, demolishing their Gatorade cart, and then charging towards their cheerleaders who make a hasty trip to their locker room for a fresh set of clothes.

I always loved the Joan of Arc idea. If I ran MU in the 90s, that's what I would have gone with rather than changing the name.

Of course, if you told a bunch of alumni that we were dropping the native imagery and installing a female mascot in the 90s, I'm not sure how well that would have gone over. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there would have been a lot of backlash.

[MU82]

Redskins is available now.

[muwarrior69]

**If this were a contractual obligation, one would like that the Vice Chair of the Board of Trustees would know this when he made the $1 million offer in a public forum.

**$2 million was never going to be enough for a school that raises something like $90 million a year.

To build the AL, a new Law School and Dormitory; 2 million to change one logo back to another costs nothing, but as you say 2 million or any amount was never going to be enough was just the point.

[The Sultan]

I always loved the Joan of Arc idea. If I ran MU in the 90s, that's what I would have gone with rather than changing the name.

Of course, if you told a bunch of alumni that we were dropping the native imagery and installing a female mascot in the 90s, I'm not sure how well that would have gone over. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there would have been a lot of backlash.

They had already dropped the imagery before the name change.  I know that when Bluteaux bombed in the late 80s they did a contest to replace "him" and they included a knight, a caveman and a couple of other things.  Not sure if the logo changed from the "first warrior" until the name change though.