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Author Topic: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.  (Read 15510 times)

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2021, 09:20:10 AM »
To build the AL, a new Law School and Dormitory; 2 million to change one logo back to another costs nothing, but as you say 2 million or any amount was never going to be enough was just the point.


Changing logos doesn't cost "nothing" by any means.  A rebrand is clearly a seven figure cost.  The hope is that you make up for it in increased apparel licensing, etc.
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2021, 09:21:40 AM »
Nope.

https://medium.com/@jeremyfromascending/weve-decided-to-use-edi-not-dei-here-s-why-eb5ed0e1208d

That's wonderful that Jeremey Evans Smith and his 29 followers has decided to use a different acronym from everyone else. But as someone whose wife works as a DEI consultant...it's DEI.
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2021, 09:27:33 AM »
That's wonderful that Jeremey Evans Smith and his 29 followers has decided to use a different acronym from everyone else. But as someone whose wife works as a DEI consultant...it's DEI.


We use EDI.  So do a number of other schools.
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2021, 09:35:08 AM »

Changing logos doesn't cost "nothing" by any means.  A rebrand is clearly a seven figure cost.  The hope is that you make up for it in increased apparel licensing, etc.

Came here to say this.  Think of everything you see in media, print, logos on buildings... everything.  You're talking well over $2 million.

The guy that offered the money was out for some self promotion, and it has paid dividends.  We're still talking about this 17 years later!

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2021, 09:39:30 AM »

They had already dropped the imagery before the name change.  I know that when Bluteaux bombed in the late 80s they did a contest to replace "him" and they included a knight, a caveman and a couple of other things.  Not sure if the logo changed from the "first warrior" until the name change though.

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2021, 09:44:10 AM »
I always loved the Joan of Arc idea. If I ran MU in the 90s, that's what I would have gone with rather than changing the name.

Of course, if you told a bunch of alumni that we were dropping the native imagery and installing a female mascot in the 90s, I'm not sure how well that would have gone over. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there would have been a lot of backlash.

I would have been fine with it, but I fail to see the connection between Jacques Marquette and JOA except that they are both french and Catholic and a JOA chapel on campus. Whereas the connection with Marquette and Native Americans is obvious.

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2021, 09:46:35 AM »
I would have been fine with it, but I fail to see the connection between Jacques Marquette and JOA except that they are both french and Catholic and a JOA chapel on campus. Whereas the connection with Marquette and Native Americans is obvious.

Do you see a connection between a Jesuit priest/explorer and warriors/Hilltoppers/Golden Avalanche/Golden Eagles/Gold?

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2021, 09:47:16 AM »
I would have been fine with it, but I fail to see the connection between Jacques Marquette and JOA except that they are both french and Catholic and a JOA chapel on campus. Whereas the connection with Marquette and Native Americans is obvious.

I think you listed three big connections
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2021, 09:51:08 AM »
Jumpin' Jesuits is the only real option.


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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2021, 09:51:49 AM »
Bring back football.

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2021, 09:54:15 AM »
Bring back football.

And the Brooks Union!

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2021, 09:55:36 AM »
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2021, 10:00:25 AM »

Changing logos doesn't cost "nothing" by any means.  A rebrand is clearly a seven figure cost.  The hope is that you make up for it in increased apparel licensing, etc.

The Marquette community was overwhelmingly in favor of the Warrior mascot and would have easily made up any costs.

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2021, 10:23:29 AM »

We use EDI.  So do a number of other schools.

Most ironic internet squabble ever?  I give you both a hard fail on the D part.
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2021, 10:47:31 AM »
I've heard that Father Marquette himself would likely not approve of the name "Warriors", since he, y'know, spent his whole life working as a keeper of the peace among the peoples he visited.

Once and for all, just let it go.
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2021, 10:49:24 AM »
Do you see a connection between a Jesuit priest/explorer and warriors/Hilltoppers/Golden Avalanche/Golden Eagles/Gold?

Jesuit priests are famous for walking around with golden eagles on their shoulders. Duh.

Once and for all, just let it go.

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2021, 11:01:01 AM »

Never! This is Scoop ... and we never just let anything go!


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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2021, 11:21:21 AM »
As much as we'd all love it's not happening.

Bricky has a better chance of returning to his 5 minutes of fame.

I created Bricky in 5 mins using MS paint...while it was only 5 mins of fame, Bricky lives forever in my heart.

I lost the original file to time, but thank god for scoop...keeping Bricky alive all these years
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2021, 11:37:44 AM »
I created Bricky in 5 mins using MS paint...while it was only 5 mins of fame, Bricky lives forever in my heart.

I lost the original file to time, but thank god for scoop...keeping Bricky alive all these years
https://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/nickname/bricky.jpg?

Nice!  Bricky Part II.

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2021, 11:41:52 AM »
I created Bricky in 5 mins using MS paint...while it was only 5 mins of fame, Bricky lives forever in my heart.

I lost the original file to time, but thank god for scoop...keeping Bricky alive all these years
https://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/nickname/bricky.jpg?

I bet you are kicking yourself with this NFT boom.

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2021, 11:57:42 AM »
That's wonderful that Jeremey Evans Smith and his 29 followers has decided to use a different acronym from everyone else. But as someone whose wife works as a DEI consultant...it's DEI.

Must not have caught that the link was in teal.

As someone who heads an EDI unit ... it's also EDI. There is world outside the US you know....
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2021, 11:59:50 AM »
I bet you are kicking yourself with this NFT boom.

Was just going to ask how much for the NFT rights!
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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2021, 12:12:09 PM »
From Warrior to Soy Boy in just two generations

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Re: Bring back the Warriors? An EDI-friendly proposal.
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2021, 12:13:02 PM »
Jesuit priests are famous for walking around with golden eagles on their shoulders. Duh.

Never! This is Scoop ... and we never just let anything go!

Old Warriors never die they just fade away to quote a famous general who visited Marquette 70 years ago this April.

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