Killings gone

[Mu8891]

Congrats to Killings

I say bring on Baldwin and his son ...

Why not ?

[Herman Cain]

Happy for Coach Killings. Wish him all the best of luck at Albany.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Congratulations Nelson to Holy Cross, Stan to LMU, Coach Killings to Albany. A MU friend of mine Son and Daughter played LaCrosse for Albany HS and it is her birthday today and she is a Professor at Albany-SUNY this is her present.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Presutti from Assistant Coach to Associate Head Coach

Cam Marotta from Program Assistant to Assistant Coach

Ike Eke to Program Assistant

Promotions from within all around. Let's get it done!

Have spoke with all the above and Agree

[MuggsyB]

If coach wojo never went to duke, would he still be our coach?

There is no rational explanation why a program that cares about basketball would have him on the sidelines to begin his 8th year.  I know we're beating a dead horse but are there other examples of a HC with a tenure this long at a tier one D-1 school?  By tier one I mean multiple F4's and in the top 25 range all-time. 

[panda]

There is no rational explanation why a program that cares about basketball would have him on the sidelines to begin his 8th year.  I know we're beating a dead horse but are there other examples of a HC with a tenure this long at a tier one D-1 school?  By tier one I mean multiple F4's and in the top 25 range all-time.

Top of my head? It doesn't fit into your criteria, but Clemson has held onto their coach for a really long time without any success. Otherwise? Drawing a blank..

[MarquetteMike1977]

There is no rational explanation why a program that cares about basketball would have him on the sidelines to begin his 8th year.  I know we're beating a dead horse but are there other examples of a HC with a tenure this long at a tier one D-1 school?  By tier one I mean multiple F4's and in the top 25 range all-time.

Agree here too

[cheese ball chaser]

He's probably making a Killing at his new gig, hey?

[MuggsyB]

Wojo seems like a really good guy.  It's not possible these were his personal expectations after 7 yrs.  In fact it's nowhere close and he'd be the first to own it.   Obviously he's not going to resign but I bet he would handle things very well if he was bought out and replaced.  And maybe he can find a niche somewhere else, perhaps even a high major, but we have no evidence it will be at MU or the BEast.  Remember 8 yrs is dog years in college basketball.  It's a tough job but results have to matter. 

[JWags85]

Top of my head? It doesn't fit into your criteria, but Clemson has held onto their coach for a really long time without any success. Otherwise? Drawing a blank..

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Otherwise, the gold standard until two years ago was Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss. 12 seasons with 2 NCAA appearances and 1 win.

Andy Enfield has a nice team at USC this year, but it's been 8 years of meh for the most part.  Same with Tinkle at Oregon St

[MuggsyB]

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Otherwise, the gold standard until two years ago was Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss. 12 seasons with 2 NCAA appearances and 1 win.

Andy Enfield has a nice team at USC this year, but it's been 8 years of meh for the most part.  Same with Tinkle at Oregon St

I know I'm biased but I don't consider any of those programs in the same stratosphere as Marquette. 

[panda]

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Otherwise, the gold standard until two years ago was Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss. 12 seasons with 2 NCAA appearances and 1 win.

Andy Enfield has a nice team at USC this year, but it's been 8 years of meh for the most part.  Same with Tinkle at Oregon St

Good call on Tinkle. His son really saved him last year and two seasons ago. Great player on a really bad team.

[JWags85]

I know I'm biased but I don't consider any of those programs in the same stratosphere as Marquette.

I don't disagree with you.  The mention of Clemson just made me think of P6 teams that held onto middling coaches quite a long time

[Mu8891]

So ...

We are now comparing mu to
Clemson , Ole Miss and OREGON ST ??

Good lord. This is bad.  Really bad

[MuggsyB]

I don%u2019t disagree with you.  The mention of Clemson just made me think of P6 teams that held onto middling coaches quite a long time

I appreciate that you did think of other P6 programs because I think it illustrates my point even more.  And while there are several posters I respect, especially the Gato's, that think we have a good nucleus and don't want to lose them, it's very difficult for me to believe we would be a factor next year.  What I mean is a threat in the NCAA tournament.  So even if everything were to go our way, including additional impact transfers, there is nothing my eyes have seen which would suggest we can make some noise in March.  Ergo, blowing it up seems prudent from my vantage point.  And I'll tell you something else: guys like Underwood, Musselman, Oats, Porter, and others were out there.  If you accept mediocrity, or sub-medioctity, the problem is you.  This is my personal message to those in.charge at MU.

[WarriorPride68]

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Clemson has basketball?

[MarquetteMike1977]

Wojo seems like a really good guy.  It's not possible these were his personal expectations after 7 yrs.  In fact it's nowhere close and he'd be the first to own it.   Obviously he's not going to resign but I bet he would handle things very well if he was bought out and replaced.  And maybe he can find a niche somewhere else, perhaps even a high major, but we have no evidence it will be at MU or the BEast.  Remember 8 yrs is dog years in college basketball.  It's a tough job but results have to matter.

Agree again. Also if there was no COVID and if Marquette got in the 8/9 game last year where most Bracketologies had Marquette and we beat either Houston or Arizona which most Bracketologies had us paired against it may be a different story. But it is not unfortunately.

[marquette09]

Agree again. Also if there was no COVID and if Marquette got in the 8/9 game last year where most Bracketologies had Marquette and we beat either Houston or Arizona which most Bracketologies had us paired against it may be a different story. But it is not unfortunately.

What makes you think that team last year was going to win a tournament game?

[MarquetteMike1977]

What makes you think that team last year was going to win a tournament game?

I did not think they would win just said if they would of had a chance without COVID and won things might be different. But they are not.Again.  I did not think they would win.

[MuggsyB]

Here's the thing, and I'll be the first to admit it, two years ago it looked like we should extend Wojo.  I forget things but we were like 20-4 and closing in on a 3 seed.  Not only that but for 19-20, before the infamous "letter", many projected us as a top 5 team last season.  I realize I get a bit hyperbolic with regards to MU hoops but I was right there that we had tremendous potential to make a legitimate tournament run.  However, looking back, I and others got ahead of reality.  We lost two very good players but we were still flawed and there was a bit of smoke and mirrors in our legitimate chances.  We all have enough data,  It's time to move another direction.

[jesmu84]

Here's the thing, and I'll be the first to admit it, two years ago it looked like we should extend Wojo.  I forget things but we were like 20-4 and closing in on a 3 seed.  Not only that but for 19-20, before the infamous "letter, many projected us as a top 5 team last season.  I realize I get a bit hyperbolic with regards to MU hoops but I was there that we had tremendous potential to make a legitimate tournament run.  However, looking back, Inand others got ahead of reality.  We lost two very good players but we were still very flawed and there was a bit of smoke and mirrors in our legitimate chances.  We all have enough data,  It's time to move another direction.

Oh. This is the first I'm hearing an opinion like this.

Anyway....about Coach Killings...

[shoothoops]

Clemson has basketball?

Greg Elliott's sister Gabby plays for the Clemson Women's team. She was the team's 2nd leading scorer as. Freshman. (13 plus per game) Former Mis Michigan Basketball, and former Michigan Gatorade Player of the Year.

[1SE]

Does the fact that Wojo may very well be gone at the end of next year make it harder for him to hire a good AC? Great for killings but man this is turning into a train wreck. How many of Ks recruits follow him out the door too?

[rocky_warrior]

Does the fact that Wojo may very well be gone at the end of next year make it harder for him to hire a good AC? Great for killings but man this is turning into a train wreck. How many of Ks recruits follow him out the door too?

Marquette will likely still pay well for a new assistant (or two!).  Wojo and a new assistant will still bet on themselves to win and MU likely ends up with a good assistant coach.   The hope is we get one that can help Wojo get over his shortcomings.

[1SE]

Marquette will likely still pay well for a new assistant (or two!).  Wojo and a new assistant will still bet on themselves to win and MU likely ends up with a good assistant coach.   The hope is we get one that can help Wojo get over his shortcomings.

I mean I guess he has better success getting ACs to the HC level than he does getting kids to the NBA....