Author Topic: Killings gone (Read 8867 times)

fjm · « **on:** March 15, 2021, 06:29:41 PM »

Albany coach.

NOW HIRE SOMEONE WITH SOME unnatural carnal knowledgeING HEAD COACHING EXPERIENCE

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1371603332666687488?s=21

cheebs09 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:32:03 PM »

Leitao is available

JWags85 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:33:52 PM »

Looking forward to new Marquette assistant Nolan Smith or Kyle Singler

CountryRoads · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:34:18 PM »

Presutti from Assistant Coach to Associate Head Coach

Cam Marotta from Program Assistant to Assistant Coach

Ike Eke to Program Assistant

Promotions from within all around. Let’s get it done!

Tha Hound · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:38:54 PM »

Nothing matters until Wojo's contract is up. Someone hand me my roast beef

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:41:48 PM »

Not surprised. Only heard great things. Congrats Dwayne!

MU82 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:43:38 PM »

I wish Coach Killings great success at Albany, and wherever his career may take him.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:45:09 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on March 15, 2021, 06:33:52 PM

Looking forward to new Marquette assistant Nolan Smith or Kyle Singler

Lmao. Well played.

We R Final Four · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:45:59 PM »

Wonder the bearing this will have on Justin.

shoothoops · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:49:49 PM »

Congrats to Dwayne. Good for him. He was represented Marquette well. Well earned. Keep it going.

Blackhat · « **Reply #10 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:54:02 PM »

Coach wojo to se missouri st!

WarriorPride68 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:56:32 PM »

finally, now Wojo can win without Killings holding him back

Blackhat · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2021, 06:58:29 PM »

If coach wojo never went to duke, would he still be our coach?

muhoops1 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:04:50 PM »

Wojo’s coaching tree continues to blossom!

Small Orange Soda · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:09:13 PM »

Congrats to Coach Killings. I sincerely hope whoever Wojo hires will be someone who is a solution to Wojo's vast array of shortcomings.

BCHoopster · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:17:26 PM »

How about Baldwin and his son?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:18:34 PM »

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 15, 2021, 07:17:26 PM

How about Baldwin and his son?

Why would he leave his UWM gig?

GoldenWarrior11 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:19:16 PM »

Congrats to Killings. Will be rooting him to succeed at Albany.

With Wojo staying a near-lock, I sincerely hope he hires an assistant with head coaching experience.

NickelDimer · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:20:29 PM »

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 15, 2021, 07:19:16 PM

Congrats to Killings. Will be rooting him to succeed at Albany.

With Wojo staying a near-lock, I sincerely hope he hires an assistant ~~with head coaching experience.~~ who can take his job when he’s fired early next season

Fixed

Small Orange Soda · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:21:38 PM »

Congrats to Coach Killings, I wish him well.

This is actually an opportunity for Wojo to own up to his failures and hire someone who addresses them. Scholl needs to tell him to hire someone who can fill in his deficiencies instead of someone who can keep up during noon ball. We shall see.

WarriorPride68 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:24:35 PM »

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 15, 2021, 07:19:16 PM

With Wojo staying a near-lock, I sincerely hope he hires an assistant with head coaching experience.

Mike Deane is only 69 years young #DoneDeal

BCHoopster · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:26:29 PM »

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 15, 2021, 07:18:34 PM

Why would he leave his UWM gig?

Money mainly

panda · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:29:58 PM »

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 15, 2021, 07:26:29 PM

Money mainly

We’ve had bad luck taking the brothers in recruiting deals so let’s take a dad instead!!

Ellenson Guerrero · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:35:54 PM »

Congrats to Killings! The rest of us should just make a trip to Arby’s.

tower912 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:40:35 PM »

Good for Coach Killings

Mu8891 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:41:09 PM »

Congrats to Killings

I say bring on Baldwin and his son ...

Why not ?

Herman Cain · « **Reply #26 on:** March 15, 2021, 07:57:26 PM »

Happy for Coach Killings. Wish him all the best of luck at Albany.

MarquetteMike1977 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 15, 2021, 08:06:40 PM »

Congratulations Nelson to Holy Cross, Stan to LMU, Coach Killings to Albany. A MU friend of mine Son and Daughter played LaCrosse for Albany HS and it is her birthday today and she is a Professor at Albany-SUNY this is her present.

MarquetteMike1977 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 15, 2021, 08:11:39 PM »

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 15, 2021, 06:34:18 PM

Presutti from Assistant Coach to Associate Head Coach

Cam Marotta from Program Assistant to Assistant Coach

Ike Eke to Program Assistant

Promotions from within all around. Let’s get it done!

Have spoke with all the above and Agree

MuggsyB · « **Reply #29 on:** March 15, 2021, 08:15:40 PM »

Quote from: Blackhat on March 15, 2021, 06:58:29 PM

If coach wojo never went to duke, would he still be our coach?

There is no rational explanation why a program that cares about basketball would have him on the sidelines to begin his 8th year. I know we're beating a dead horse but are there other examples of a HC with a tenure this long at a tier one D-1 school? By tier one I mean multiple F4's and in the top 25 range all-time.

panda · « **Reply #30 on:** March 15, 2021, 08:23:33 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2021, 08:15:40 PM

There is no rational explanation why a program that cares about basketball would have him on the sidelines to begin his 8th year. I know we're beating a dead horse but are there other examples of a HC with a tenure this long at a tier one D-1 school? By tier one I mean multiple F4's and in the top 25 range all-time.

Top of my head? It doesn’t fit into your criteria, but Clemson has held onto their coach for a really long time without any success. Otherwise? Drawing a blank..

MarquetteMike1977 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 15, 2021, 08:29:29 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2021, 08:15:40 PM

There is no rational explanation why a program that cares about basketball would have him on the sidelines to begin his 8th year. I know we're beating a dead horse but are there other examples of a HC with a tenure this long at a tier one D-1 school? By tier one I mean multiple F4's and in the top 25 range all-time.

Agree here too

cheese ball chaser · « **Reply #32 on:** March 15, 2021, 08:32:49 PM »

He's probably making a Killing at his new gig, hey?

MuggsyB · « **Reply #33 on:** March 15, 2021, 08:35:17 PM »

Wojo seems like a really good guy. It's not possible these were his personal expectations after 7 yrs. In fact it's nowhere close and he'd be the first to own it. Obviously he's not going to resign but I bet he would handle things very well if he was bought out and replaced. And maybe he can find a niche somewhere else, perhaps even a high major, but we have no evidence it will be at MU or the BEast. Remember 8 yrs is dog years in college basketball. It's a tough job but results have to matter.

JWags85 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:05:50 PM »

Quote from: panda on March 15, 2021, 08:23:33 PM

Top of my head? It doesn’t fit into your criteria, but Clemson has held onto their coach for a really long time without any success. Otherwise? Drawing a blank..

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Otherwise, the gold standard until two years ago was Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss. 12 seasons with 2 NCAA appearances and 1 win.

Andy Enfield has a nice team at USC this year, but it’s been 8 years of meh for the most part. Same with Tinkle at Oregon St

MuggsyB · « **Reply #35 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:07:18 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on March 15, 2021, 09:05:50 PM

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Otherwise, the gold standard until two years ago was Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss. 12 seasons with 2 NCAA appearances and 1 win.

Andy Enfield has a nice team at USC this year, but it’s been 8 years of meh for the most part. Same with Tinkle at Oregon St

I know I'm biased but I don't consider any of those programs in the same stratosphere as Marquette.

panda · « **Reply #36 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:08:55 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on March 15, 2021, 09:05:50 PM

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Otherwise, the gold standard until two years ago was Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss. 12 seasons with 2 NCAA appearances and 1 win.

Andy Enfield has a nice team at USC this year, but it’s been 8 years of meh for the most part. Same with Tinkle at Oregon St

Good call on Tinkle. His son really saved him last year and two seasons ago. Great player on a really bad team.

JWags85 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:16:05 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2021, 09:07:18 PM

I know I'm biased but I don't consider any of those programs in the same stratosphere as Marquette.

I don’t disagree with you. The mention of Clemson just made me think of P6 teams that held onto middling coaches quite a long time

Mu8891 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:20:58 PM »

So ...

We are now comparing mu to
Clemson , Ole Miss and OREGON ST ??

Good lord. This is bad. Really bad

MuggsyB · « **Reply #39 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:30:09 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on March 15, 2021, 09:16:05 PM

I don%u2019t disagree with you. The mention of Clemson just made me think of P6 teams that held onto middling coaches quite a long time

I appreciate that you did think of other P6 programs because I think it illustrates my point even more. And while there are several posters I respect, especially the Gato's, that think we have a good nucleus and don't want to lose them, it's very difficult for me to believe we would be a factor next year. What I mean is a threat in the NCAA tournament. So even if everything were to go our way, including additional impact transfers, there is nothing my eyes have seen which would suggest we can make some noise in March. Ergo, blowing it up seems prudent from my vantage point. And I'll tell you something else: guys like Underwood, Musselman, Oats, Porter, and others were out there. If you accept mediocrity, or sub-medioctity, the problem is you. This is my personal message to those in.charge at MU.

WarriorPride68 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:30:13 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on March 15, 2021, 09:05:50 PM

Browned made a S16 at Clemson 3 years ago, that bought him time.

Clemson has basketball?

MarquetteMike1977 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:31:40 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2021, 08:35:17 PM

Wojo seems like a really good guy. It's not possible these were his personal expectations after 7 yrs. In fact it's nowhere close and he'd be the first to own it. Obviously he's not going to resign but I bet he would handle things very well if he was bought out and replaced. And maybe he can find a niche somewhere else, perhaps even a high major, but we have no evidence it will be at MU or the BEast. Remember 8 yrs is dog years in college basketball. It's a tough job but results have to matter.

Agree again. Also if there was no COVID and if Marquette got in the 8/9 game last year where most Bracketologies had Marquette and we beat either Houston or Arizona which most Bracketologies had us paired against it may be a different story. But it is not unfortunately.

marquette09 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:34:36 PM »

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 15, 2021, 09:31:40 PM

Agree again. Also if there was no COVID and if Marquette got in the 8/9 game last year where most Bracketologies had Marquette and we beat either Houston or Arizona which most Bracketologies had us paired against it may be a different story. But it is not unfortunately.

What makes you think that team last year was going to win a tournament game?

MarquetteMike1977 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:37:26 PM »

Quote from: marquette09 on March 15, 2021, 09:34:36 PM

What makes you think that team last year was going to win a tournament game?

I did not think they would win just said if they would of had a chance without COVID and won things might be different. But they are not.Again. I did not think they would win.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #44 on:** March 15, 2021, 09:59:27 PM »

Here's the thing, and I'll be the first to admit it, two years ago it looked like we should extend Wojo. I forget things but we were like 20-4 and closing in on a 3 seed. Not only that but for 19-20, before the infamous "letter", many projected us as a top 5 team last season. I realize I get a bit hyperbolic with regards to MU hoops but I was right there that we had tremendous potential to make a legitimate tournament run. However, looking back, I and others got ahead of reality. We lost two very good players but we were still flawed and there was a bit of smoke and mirrors in our legitimate chances. We all have enough data, It's time to move another direction.

jesmu84 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 15, 2021, 10:00:58 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2021, 09:59:27 PM

Here's the thing, and I'll be the first to admit it, two years ago it looked like we should extend Wojo. I forget things but we were like 20-4 and closing in on a 3 seed. Not only that but for 19-20, before the infamous "letter, many projected us as a top 5 team last season. I realize I get a bit hyperbolic with regards to MU hoops but I was there that we had tremendous potential to make a legitimate tournament run. However, looking back, Inand others got ahead of reality. We lost two very good players but we were still very flawed and there was a bit of smoke and mirrors in our legitimate chances. We all have enough data, It's time to move another direction.

Oh. This is the first I'm hearing an opinion like this.

Anyway....about Coach Killings...

shoothoops · « **Reply #46 on:** March 15, 2021, 10:10:50 PM »

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on March 15, 2021, 09:30:13 PM

Clemson has basketball?

Greg Elliott's sister Gabby plays for the Clemson Women's team. She was the team's 2nd leading scorer as. Freshman. (13 plus per game) Former Mis Michigan Basketball, and former Michigan Gatorade Player of the Year.

1SE · « **Reply #47 on:** March 16, 2021, 01:45:28 AM »

Does the fact that Wojo may very well be gone at the end of next year make it harder for him to hire a good AC? Great for killings but man this is turning into a train wreck. How many of Ks recruits follow him out the door too?

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #48 on:** March 16, 2021, 01:54:40 AM »

Quote from: 1SE on March 16, 2021, 01:45:28 AM

Does the fact that Wojo may very well be gone at the end of next year make it harder for him to hire a good AC? Great for killings but man this is turning into a train wreck. How many of Ks recruits follow him out the door too?

Marquette will likely still pay well for a new assistant (or two!). Wojo and a new assistant will still bet on themselves to win and MU likely ends up with a good assistant coach. The hope is we get one that can help Wojo get over his shortcomings.

1SE · « **Reply #49 on:** March 16, 2021, 01:57:52 AM »

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 01:54:40 AM

Marquette will likely still pay well for a new assistant (or two!). Wojo and a new assistant will still bet on themselves to win and MU likely ends up with a good assistant coach. The hope is we get one that can help Wojo get over his shortcomings.

I mean I guess he has better success getting ACs to the HC level than he does getting kids to the NBA....

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #50 on:** March 16, 2021, 02:05:09 AM »

Quote from: 1SE on March 16, 2021, 01:57:52 AM

I mean I guess he has better success getting ACs to the HC level than he does getting kids to the NBA....

Well, thanks for Wojo unleashing Juan his senior year (lol), he can now count Henry, Juan, and Markus.

NorthernDancerColt · « **Reply #51 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:03:10 AM »

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 15, 2021, 07:17:26 PM

How about Baldwin and his son?

I heard a rumor (non-Marquette source), even before MU was 1st-rd ousted from the BET, that Pat Baldwin will be the next head coach of Marquette.

To think of the irony there’s even a slight possibility NU’s Chris Collins unwittingly sent Wojo’s successor up to Milwaukee, right next door to him.

If it came down to TJO and Pitino, it’s a no-brainer. You take the baggage and welcome Rick to MU. Pat Baldwin and Pitino, OTOH, requires some thought. I would still take Baldwin, even without his son.

cheebs09 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:06:05 AM »

Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on March 16, 2021, 09:03:10 AM

I heard a rumor (non-Marquette source), even before MU was 1st-rd ousted from the BET, that Pat Baldwin will be the next head coach of Marquette.

To think of the irony there’s even a slight possibility NU’s Chris Collins unwittingly sent Wojo’s successor up to Milwaukee, right next door to him.

If it came down to TJO and Pitino, it’s a no-brainer. You take the baggage and welcome Rick to MU. Pat Baldwin and Pitino, OTOH, requires some thought. I would still take Baldwin, even without his son.

What has Baldwin done that would make him an attractive coach other than his son? UWM is not an easy place to win, but other than a few good Horizon League tournaments, Baldwin hasn’t done much.

NorthernDancerColt · « **Reply #53 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:17:52 AM »

“UWM is not an easy place to win”.
Understatement of the century.

Pat Baldwin, given a chance at Marquette, would elevate his game substantially. He’s the perfect fit. Really, really knows the Midwest. Understands what it’s like to produce for an institution (NU both as a student-athlete and coach) that wants to keep its academic reputation strong.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #54 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:35:36 AM »

I would welcome Pat Baldwin with open arms...

...as a replacement for Coach Killings.

fjm · « **Reply #55 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:36:55 AM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 16, 2021, 09:35:36 AM

I would welcome Pat Baldwin with open arms...

...as a replacement for Coach Killings.

You had me goin in the first half.

Solid follow through. 👍🏼

panda · « **Reply #56 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:38:35 AM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 16, 2021, 09:35:36 AM

I would welcome Pat Baldwin with open arms...

...as a replacement for Coach Killings.

Lol nice. Imagine the excitement of Wojo leaving only to be replaced by the current UWM HC from the Chris Collins coaching tree.

JWags85 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:43:47 AM »

Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on March 16, 2021, 09:17:52 AM

“UWM is not an easy place to win”.
Understatement of the century.

Pat Baldwin, given a chance at Marquette, would elevate his game substantially. He’s the perfect fit. Really, really knows the Midwest. Understands what it’s like to produce for an institution (NU both as a student-athlete and coach) that wants to keep its academic reputation strong.

Are you his agent? His CV was representative of the job he got. Which even if it is a tough place to win, hasn’t merited a promotion to even a MVC or A10 job, much less a profile and budget like Marquette. Claiming a guy who spent the entirety of his assistant career at middling/losing programs, and then an inauspicious HC tenure, would decidedly “elevate his game substantially” is absurdly baseless speculation.

muwarrior97 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:04:54 AM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 15, 2021, 06:41:48 PM

Not surprised. Only heard great things. Congrats Dwayne!

+1

Agreed! Good for him and his family, big step and could be a nice path for him on the road to higher places

Mr. Nielsen · « **Reply #59 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:11:39 AM »

Pat Baldwin Jan. 24th and after, past three seasons:

2018-19: 0-11 to the end the season.

2019-20: 2-9, 0-6 to end season

2020-21: 1-6, 5 in a row at the end. Untill winning 3 in a row and blowing the game vs CSU (HL semi's). 4-7

Silent Verbal · « **Reply #60 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:12:36 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 16, 2021, 10:11:39 AM

Pat Baldwin Jan. 24th and after, past three seasons:

2018-19: 0-11

2019-20: 2-9, 0-6 to end season

2020-21: 1-6, 5 in a row at the end. Untill winning 3 in a row and blowing the game vs CSU. 4-7

In other words, he’d fit right in at Marquette.

Goose · « **Reply #61 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:31:41 AM »

Silent Verbal.

He sure would.

willie warrior · « **Reply #62 on:** March 16, 2021, 03:31:53 PM »

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 01:54:40 AM

Marquette will likely still pay well for a new assistant (or two!). Wojo and a new assistant will still bet on themselves to win and MU likely ends up with a good assistant coach. The hope is we get one that can help Wojo get over his shortcomings.

Thats right. Hire somebody to cover Wojo-Dukiets shortcomings. Makes sense and is better than finding a winner coach. That...might be difficult.

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Author Topic: Killings gone (Read 8867 times)