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Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on April 24, 2021, 06:30:01 AM
This might fit under the category of "a broken clock is right twice a day", DePaul gets Jalen Terry from Oregon. A highly ranked recruit who rode the bench as a Freshman for the Ducks.

That's a good pickup for them
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MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2021, 07:13:56 AM
That's a good pickup for them

Agreed. Sometimes the fit isn't right at School A but a good prospect blossoms at School B. Grimes and Quinerly are recent examples.

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NickelDimer

Quote from: We R Final Four on April 23, 2021, 12:36:33 PM
Is this a question?
I know of no evidence that Wojo wasn't forthright with his players when he was in that position/employed.
Wally might disagree
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GB Warrior

Zagoria reporting that we've reached out to Oklahoma's Alondes Williams, a Milwaukee native

https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1386011812282392581?s=19

bilsu

Quote from: MU82 on April 24, 2021, 08:27:33 AM
Agreed. Sometimes the fit isn't right at School A but a good prospect blossoms at School B. Grimes and Quinerly are recent examples.
It also could be that some players are not ready to play as freshmen. They need time to reach their potential. Grimes and Quinerly were much higher ranked recruits than our current freshmen, so you should expect them to need time to develop.

TheTulsaWarrior

It would be a luxury to be able to redshirt two of the freshman guards.  A grad transfer could make a big difference in getting time for player development. and evening out the classes. 

PointWarrior

Really don't think any recruit is looking to redshirt - another continual MU Scoop pipe dream...  maybe Shaka can adopt them too to save scholarships for the redshirt year...


Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on April 24, 2021, 04:26:07 PM
It would be a luxury to be able to redshirt two of the freshman guards.  A grad transfer could make a big difference in getting time for player development. and evening out the classes.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: PointWarrior on April 24, 2021, 04:28:17 PM
Really don't think any recruit is looking to redshirt - another continual MU Scoop pipe dream...  maybe Shaka can adopt them too to save scholarships for the redshirt year...

Pipe dream? We've had two non-injury/non-transfer redshirts in the past four seasons (Anim and Akanno). I think it will become more common now that transfers don't have to automatically redshirt.
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Viper

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 24, 2021, 05:14:10 PM
Pipe dream? We've had two non-injury/non-transfer redshirts in the past four seasons (Anim and Akanno). I think it will become more common now that transfers don't have to automatically redshirt.
redshirting Cam might be a good move thinking a year ahead.
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JakeBarnes

Quote from: Viper on April 24, 2021, 06:59:51 PM
redshirting Cam might be a good move thinking a year ahead.

Gonna be hard to redshirt a Grad Assistant
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 24, 2021, 05:14:10 PM
Pipe dream? We've had two non-injury/non-transfer redshirts in the past four seasons (Anim and Akanno). I think it will become more common now that transfers don't have to automatically redshirt.
Further to this notion, The Badgers have employed this tactic for years . Ethan Happ being a prominent example.

My instinct is that Shaka gets everybody on campus and sees which of the freshman can contribute immediately, which can contribute by the end of the year and which need another year of development and take an elective redshirt. With 5 coming I would expect at least one in each category, but hard to precisely identify who.
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HutchwasClutch

If anyone is going to redshirt, best candidate seems Itejere. Very raw, has only been playing the game barely 5 years. 

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: PointWarrior on April 24, 2021, 04:28:17 PM
Really don't think any recruit is looking to redshirt - another continual MU Scoop pipe dream...  maybe Shaka can adopt them too to save scholarships for the redshirt year...

Especially when you redshirt a kid then they bail and play four years for someone else.
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on April 24, 2021, 04:26:07 PM
It would be a luxury to be able to redshirt two of the freshman guards.  A grad transfer could make a big difference in getting time for player development. and evening out the classes.

Redshirting doesn't fix the over commitment on scholarships.  MU is still 1 over.  If they add a Grad Transfer and 2 frosh redshirt, MU would still be 2 over.

MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: GB Warrior on April 24, 2021, 01:06:57 PM
Zagoria reporting that we've reached out to Oklahoma's Alondes Williams, a Milwaukee native

https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1386011812282392581?s=19

Alondes had 13 points and 3 Rebounds against Texas in March

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 24, 2021, 09:52:04 PM
Redshirting doesn't fix the over commitment on scholarships.  MU is still 1 over.  If they add a Grad Transfer and 2 frosh redshirt, MU would still be 2 over.

I don't think Tulsa Warrior was implying that it would. Evening out the classes just means not having so many players in the same class. Redshirting Kam for instance would move him from the 5-person 21 class and put him with the 22 class.
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Viper

Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 24, 2021, 07:01:27 PM
Gonna be hard to redshirt a Grad Assistant
...Jones(Kam?) I'm sure you knew whom I was referencing, but what's a little snark on Scoop between fellow MU friends.
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bilsu

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 24, 2021, 11:53:02 PM
I don't think Tulsa Warrior was implying that it would. Evening out the classes just means not having so many players in the same class. Redshirting Kam for instance would move him from the 5-person 21 class and put him with the 22 class.
It does not solve the problem Shaka has. He has 11 players with 4 years of eligibility left. As of now no player is done after this coming season. That means for every recruit signed in the next class someone has to leave.
Sign three players and remove Perez, Elliott, Garcia and Akanno, since we are currently one over the limit.
Now 12 of your players are freshmen and sophomores (Carton - junior), so a player has to leave for every 2023 recruit that is signed. Problem repeats itself the next year.

The Sultan

Quote from: bilsu on April 25, 2021, 07:54:45 PM
It does not solve the problem Shaka has. He has 11 players with 4 years of eligibility left. As of now no player is done after this coming season. That means for every recruit signed in the next class someone has to leave.
Sign three players and remove Perez, Elliott, Garcia and Akanno, since we are currently one over the limit.
Now 12 of your players are freshmen and sophomores (Carton - junior), so a player has to leave for every 2023 recruit that is signed. Problem repeats itself the next year.

This really isn't a "problem."  Players will transfer.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: bilsu on April 25, 2021, 07:54:45 PM
It does not solve the problem Shaka has. He has 11 players with 4 years of eligibility left. As of now no player is done after this coming season. That means for every recruit signed in the next class someone has to leave.
Sign three players and remove Perez, Elliott, Garcia and Akanno, since we are currently one over the limit.
Now 12 of your players are freshmen and sophomores (Carton - junior), so a player has to leave for every 2023 recruit that is signed. Problem repeats itself the next year.

1. Players will transfer or go pro.
2. Seniors won't come back for their extra year unless coach wants them to
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 25, 2021, 10:21:06 PM

2. Seniors won't come back for their extra year unless coach wants them to

So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn't want/couldn't use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 25, 2021, 11:14:30 PM
So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn't want/couldn't use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?

That sounds about it in a nutshell.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 25, 2021, 11:14:30 PM
So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn't want/couldn't use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?

Lenny, I haven't said anything about Theo's transfer in this thread or any other thread other than a congratulations and I think maybe one post about saying injuries will determine how much time he gets there. I'm not sure where you're getting the above.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 25, 2021, 11:14:30 PM
So Wojo set up the Theo to Duke thing in February when he was still our coach. This means he didn't want/couldn't use Theo at MU in 2021-22 but thought K could at Duke?


I think it is more likely that Wojo was an intermediary between Duke and Theo after he was fired.  Outside of Coach K saying he spoke with Theo when they worked out at Cameron, which isn't really tampering, there is no evidence to suggest that Wojo set this up in February.
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