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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2021, 08:25:17 AM »
UNC vs. Marquette and that’s your first thought. You seem like a really fun guy to be around.

We’re 10-12 and just beat an awful 7-12 team; the optimism is running a little low

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2021, 08:44:41 AM »
I think this game is about getting an influx of cash more so than having an impact on this season.

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2021, 09:19:54 AM »
Considering the loss of revenue from this season, I have no issues with MU being "bought" to play at UNC.  It's certainly not going to affect any post-season opportunities.  In college football, this is like a team scheduling a game at Hawaii in December knowing they won't be playing in the Weed-eater Bowl.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2021, 09:31:17 AM »
I actually have more faith in Wojo to coach well against UNC than any other team in the country (except maybe Duke).
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2021, 09:52:12 AM »
Good god, Louisville shot 6.2% from three yesterday (1/16) and UNC grabbed 47.1% of the offensive rebounds available. The Cards also turned it over 16 times. That feels like the kind of game Marquette could have, and exactly what they need to avoid to pull off an upset.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2021, 09:55:23 AM »
Good god, Louisville shot 6.2% from three yesterday (1/16) and UNC grabbed 47.1% of the offensive rebounds available. The Cards also turned it over 16 times. That feels like the kind of game Marquette could have, and exactly what they need to avoid to pull off an upset.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2021, 10:04:37 AM »
Considering the loss of revenue from this season, I have no issues with MU being "bought" to play at UNC.  It's certainly not going to affect any post-season opportunities.  In college football, this is like a team scheduling a game at Hawaii in December knowing they won't be playing in the Weed-eater Bowl.

Does MU receive money for this game?

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2021, 10:24:02 AM »
Does MU receive money for this game?

They have to receive something. $$$ or a return trip. Otherwise why play?
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2021, 10:33:53 AM »
We’re 10-12 and just beat an awful 7-12 team; the optimism is running a little low

Hope I’m wrong

I'm not optimistic we'll win this game at all.  That doesn't change that this is an awesome game to schedule on short notice.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2021, 07:07:10 PM »
They have to receive something. $$$ or a return trip. Otherwise why play?
UNC revenues off $30 million. So likely no dollars involved.

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2021, 10:33:16 PM »
I'm all for scheduling a game, but with injuries to Theo, Justin, Osa and even Gardner - again - what is the value here?  There's no fans.  We aren't getting paid. It's unlikely UNC comes to Milwaukee.  It's another projected loss, likely by double figures.  The young guys should be getting experience playing big programs but they also need to learn/experience how to win too.

We already had UCLA, Wisconsin and OK State as strong OOC games.  There's smart scheduling and foolish scheduling. And I don't think UNC was the only option here.  I think this can also negatively impact the Big East as it's likely another loss (I doubt we get more than four bids this year).

I still believe Wojo was recently given assurances that he will be back next year. Taking a loss here doesn't help improve the program.  It just doesn't make sense from a scheduling standpoint and where we currently are. I guess Wojo will be able to give first-hand scouting report to Coach K for their big match-up in two weeks.

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« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2021, 11:18:02 PM »
Who says we aren't getting paid? Maybe we're not but I haven't seen that anywhere. I'd imagine we at least get paid via the television provider.

Adding this game changes the calculus on making the tournament. It's theoretically possible that winning out could secure a bid. I don't see us winning out, but if there's hope, why wouldn't the staff try to get a Q1 game on the schedule?

I think there's value to the young guys getting to play at a storied stadium like the Dean Smith Center. I'm sure they are excited about the chance to play a blue blood on their home floor. I'm sure it doesn't hurt that they will get to play against RJ Davis on the off chance that he may be rethinking his college decision.

Mostly, I think the staff probably thinks they can win.

So, plenty of reasons to schedule this game, money, experience for the younger guys, raises the chances of an at large from 0% to something above 0%, and avoiding a 10 day break in the middle of the season. Really no downside because if you lose, you're still where you were before the game got scheduled except you get to keep the money and the experience.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2021, 12:05:24 AM »
So, just the fourth MU/UNC match up since 1977? 1986 at the MECCA, 2000 when Julius Peppers body slammed Greg Clausen, and that ass kicking they gave us in Newark in the 2011 tourney, right?
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« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2021, 12:13:40 AM »
So, just the fourth MU/UNC match up since 1977? 1986 at the MECCA, 2000 when Julius Peppers body slammed Greg Clausen, and that ass kicking they gave us in Newark in the 2011 tourney, right?

If you ask Buzz it wasn't an ass kicking in 2011 we actually won all but 5 minutes of the game.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2021, 02:18:58 AM »
I mean, if we truly win out I don't think we can fire a coach after a national championship run  ;D
I guess I thought that winning out anything past the regular season so improbable I didn't consider it in my comment.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #90 on: February 22, 2021, 05:06:43 AM »
Well said and very true.  We need to play with fire like we did against Wisconsin and Butler. We also need Justin Lewis healthy. It's Gold blood vs. Blue blood. Go Warriors kick ass.

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #91 on: February 22, 2021, 06:33:09 AM »
So, just the fourth MU/UNC match up since 1977? 1986 at the MECCA, 2000 when Julius Peppers body slammed Greg Clausen, and that ass kicking they gave us in Newark in the 2011 tourney, right?

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #92 on: February 22, 2021, 06:47:54 AM »
UNC owes us a home game from way back, maybe the mid to late 90’s. Had a home and away with them. Played at UNC.  They then declined to come to MU and instead paid some sort of a buyout. 

Should have been a game at MU!  They truly are evil.

Must have been the 2000 season  where they owed us a return game but didn’t do so. Paid some sort of a penalty instead. If a return game is part of the deal, which it probably isn’t anyway....   more likely we got some $ from ESPN to play the game and it’s a one time Covid deal.

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2021, 06:54:33 AM »
Who says we aren't getting paid? Maybe we're not but I haven't seen that anywhere. I'd imagine we at least get paid via the television provider.

Adding this game changes the calculus on making the tournament. It's theoretically possible that winning out could secure a bid. I don't see us winning out, but if there's hope, why wouldn't the staff try to get a Q1 game on the schedule?

I think there's value to the young guys getting to play at a storied stadium like the Dean Smith Center. I'm sure they are excited about the chance to play a blue blood on their home floor. I'm sure it doesn't hurt that they will get to play against RJ Davis on the off chance that he may be rethinking his college decision.

Mostly, I think the staff probably thinks they can win.

So, plenty of reasons to schedule this game, money, experience for the younger guys, raises the chances of an at large from 0% to something above 0%, and avoiding a 10 day break in the middle of the season. Really no downside because if you lose, you're still where you were before the game got scheduled except you get to keep the money and the experience.

So, we are down to our last $5 in our wallet at the casino after losing everything. We are putting it all on red-12 because we have nothing more to lose.  No downside.

Like a compulsive gambler, the program is only living in the present and not thinking about the future.  If we get blown out, or experience another injury, it sets us back further. Although I guess it doesn't matter if Wojo returns next year regardless since the school can't afford a buyout.

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« Reply #94 on: February 22, 2021, 07:42:47 AM »
How does a blow out set us back further? Missing the tournament with 15 losses is the same as missing the tournament with 16 losses.

An injury would set us back if it was lasting but using that logic we should cancel the rest of the season.
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« Reply #95 on: February 22, 2021, 07:47:17 AM »
How does a blow out set us back further? Missing the tournament with 15 losses is the same as missing the tournament with 16 losses.

An injury would set us back if it was lasting but using that logic we should cancel the rest of the season.

Honestly, I think it’s more an ego thing for some that has them concerned about a blowout loss as in, their fan egos can’t handle it
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #96 on: February 22, 2021, 07:54:40 AM »
So, we are down to our last $5 in our wallet at the casino after losing everything. We are putting it all on red-12 because we have nothing more to lose.  No downside.

Like a compulsive gambler, the program is only living in the present and not thinking about the future.  If we get blown out, or experience another injury, it sets us back further. Although I guess it doesn't matter if Wojo returns next year regardless since the school can't afford a buyout.


Maybe they are playing the game because they are a basketball team and they like to play basketball games.

I know.  Crazy right?

And North Carolina offered a game, and ESPN is likely making it worth our while to go out there, and Wojo knows what a special place Chapel Hill is and thinks it would be fun to experience during a sh*tty season.

Sometimes people overthink things.
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« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2021, 08:04:28 AM »
So, we are down to our last $5 in our wallet at the casino after losing everything. We are putting it all on red-12 because we have nothing more to lose.  No downside.

Like a compulsive gambler, the program is only living in the present and not thinking about the future.  If we get blown out, or experience another injury, it sets us back further. Although I guess it doesn't matter if Wojo returns next year regardless since the school can't afford a buyout.

I’d assume it is more likely that they get hurt at practice than a game.

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Marquette at North Carolina
« Reply #98 on: February 22, 2021, 08:14:08 AM »
"Marquette has fallen so much under Wojo!!  We used to be tough!  A take no prisoners approach!"

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« Reply #99 on: February 22, 2021, 08:16:26 AM »
Players who choose the NFL draft over meaningless bowl games are terrible teammates.

Playing an extra basketball game is a terrible decision.
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