OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel

[swoopem]

Bob Weir tells a good tale of El Paso. Especially Rose's Cantina

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Batting .230, striking out a ton, hitting the occasional long homer. You know what you call that guy today?

Rob Deer?

[shoothoops]

Gonzaga assistant, Tommy Lloyd, expected to be named U of Arizona Head Coach. (Goodman, who is an alum)

[MarquetteMike1977]

Nvm

[Billy Hoyle]

Gonzaga assistant, Tommy Lloyd, expected to be named U of Arizona Head Coach. (Goodman, who is an alum)

good hire. He's the guy who established Gonzaga's international pipeline.

[Uncle Rico]

Wes Miller to Cincinnati according to various reports.  Will be watching this one.  Think he's a very good coach and success at Cincinnati will open a lot of doors for him

[keefe]

To each their own, El Paso certainly isn't a shining city on the hill, but I've never heard anyone rave or speaking highly of fricken Abilene.

I have spent time in Abilene, home of Dyess AFB and the 7th Bomb Wing.

Nothing there. Well, Betty Rose BBQ is damn good stuff but that's it.

[JWags85]

Wes Miller to Cincinnati according to various reports.  Will be watching this one.  Think he's a very good coach and success at Cincinnati will open a lot of doors for him

That's a REALLY nice hire for them.  Makes sense that he waiting for the UNC job to open and go elsewhere before making a move.  Great chance for him to do well and get an ACC job (which I imagine is his goal).

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'll be honest, I don't think Miller is a great coach. Think Cincy will regret that hire. May end up eating those words.

[JWags85]

I'll be honest, I don't think Miller is a great coach. Think Cincy will regret that hire. May end up eating those words.

Based on what, if I may?

UNCG is kind of a rough gig. When he took over, 1 conference title in 15 years in the SoCon, and coincidentally that was the only time they had won 20 games in a season in that 15 year period.  They were only over .500 twice in the previous 10 years, and that included the end of the Fran McCaffrey years.

Miller took over nothing good from the previous HC.  He won his division once his first year, which was fairly impressive.   Then after rebuilding for a few years, the last 5 years he won the SoCon 3 times and finished 2nd and 3rd, averaging 25ish wins a year and 14 a year in conference.  And that's overlapping the Steve Forbes run at ETSU, Medved/Richey at Furman, and the tail end of Mike Young's run at Wofford.

He might not be a great coach, but that to me is a very good one at a school without much pedigree.  I think the AAC is a good step up.

[MU82]

Long Ben Johnson interview in The Athletic. Pretty much coach-speak, right down to saying the most important thing is "family."

[Skatastrophy]

"Long Ben Johnson" is a wonderful name

[MU82]

"Long Ben Johnson" is a wonderful name

I literally laughed out loud.

[cheebs09]

Long Ben Johnson interview in The Athletic. Pretty much coach-speak, right down to saying the most important thing is "family."

Are they planning to Win Every Day?

[roadwarrior3]

Based on what, if I may?

UNCG is kind of a rough gig. When he took over, 1 conference title in 15 years in the SoCon, and coincidentally that was the only time they had won 20 games in a season in that 15 year period.  They were only over .500 twice in the previous 10 years, and that included the end of the Fran McCaffrey years.

Miller took over nothing good from the previous HC.  He won his division once his first year, which was fairly impressive.   Then after rebuilding for a few years, the last 5 years he won the SoCon 3 times and finished 2nd and 3rd, averaging 25ish wins a year and 14 a year in conference.  And that's overlapping the Steve Forbes run at ETSU, Medved/Richey at Furman, and the tail end of Mike Young's run at Wofford.

He might not be a great coach, but that to me is a very good one at a school without much pedigree.  I think the AAC is a good step up.

UNCG might be a nice landing spot for Wojo

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Based on what, if I may?

He's recruited well for UNCG standards but has never really made teams more than the sum of their parts. His teams tend to play worse as the season goes on. I don't think he's a bad coach, but my suspicion is that UNGC is the level where he will have the most success.

I will give him credit though, he did evolve about halfway through his tenure at UNCG. His first five teams were all over the place, no clear system, just rolling the ball out there and hoping it worked out. Starting in 2017, he established a clear system that valued turnovers (on both sides of the ball) and rebounding (on both sides of the ball) and that has led to his recent 5 year run at the top of the SoCon. Ability to learn and evolve as a coach is an important skill.

[StillAWarrior]

Ability to learn and evolve as a coach is an important skill.

Preach, brother TAMU, preach.

[JWags85]

He's recruited well for UNCG standards but has never really made teams more than the sum of their parts. His teams tend to play worse as the season goes on. I don't think he's a bad coach, but my suspicion is that UNGC is the level where he will have the most success.

I will give him credit though, he did evolve about halfway through his tenure at UNCG. His first five teams were all over the place, no clear system, just rolling the ball out there and hoping it worked out. Starting in 2017, he established a clear system that valued turnovers (on both sides of the ball) and rebounding (on both sides of the ball) and that has led to his recent 5 year run at the top of the SoCon. Ability to learn and evolve as a coach is an important skill.

Totally fair.  I mean, part of my favorable opinion of him is the fact that he's still only 38 after a decade at UNCG.  And the brief time he had as an assistant was under a mediocre coach at Elon, a pretty mediocre coach early in his HC tenure at High Point, and then Mike Dement who was on the downside of his career.  So it was really learning on the fly and his last 5 years have been really impressive.  If he recruits well to Cincy, which is very possible, it could be interesting.

[CAGASS24]

good hire. He's the guy who established Gonzaga's international pipeline.

Funny - it basically the same hire as wojo for us and it's viewed as a home run.  Actually you could argue wojo was the better hire at the time given Gonzaga's weaker conference, that they haven't won a title like Duke, wojos team USA experience and high level playing experience  .....anywho

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Stan Heath to Eastern Michigan.  Alum.

Good news for us

After EMU there were no More roadblocks in the way to us hiring Haynes. Deal got done pretty quickly after that. I don't think we will have him for very long, he'll get a seat in a big chair soon, but I think we'll enjoy him while he's here. He'll be able to Sell Shaka's vision.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Good news for us


After EMU there were no More roadblocks in the way to us hiring Haynes. Deal got done pretty quickly after that. I don't think we will have him for very long, he'll get a seat in a big chair soon, but I think we'll enjoy him while he's here. He'll be able to Sell Shaka's vision.

I see what you did there and hope it's true...

Haynes definitely seems to have a Dennis Gates style trajectory and I would be shocked if he's here longer than 2-3 years. Great hire, will be sure to appreciate him while he's here

[Billy Hoyle]

Funny - it basically the same hire as wojo for us and it's viewed as a home run.  Actually you could argue wojo was the better hire at the time given Gonzaga's weaker conference, that they haven't won a title like Duke, wojos team USA experience and high level playing experience  .....anywho

unlike Duke and Wojo, Lloyd was a part of building GU into a power, as well as recruiting and developing talent. He's the reason GU started getting international guys like Turiauf, Sabonis, Hachimura, Olynik, Tillie, etc. Duke and Wojo got to choose players, GU still has to recruit, sell them on Spokane, and develop many of them. Advantage Lloyd.

[Galway Eagle]

unlike Duke and Wojo, Lloyd was a part of building GU into a power, as well as recruiting and developing talent. He's the reason GU started getting international guys like Turiauf, Sabonis, Hachimura, Olynik, Tillie, etc. Duke and Wojo got to choose players, GU still has to recruit, sell them on in spite of Spokane, and develop many of them. Advantage Lloyd.

FIFY

[Billy Hoyle]

FIFY

hey, he does have to sell them "on" Spokane...why they'd want to go spend four years in a crappy town with humid summers and winters like one would experience on the Planet Hoth

[willie warrior]

Bob Weir tells a good tale of El Paso. Especially Rose's Cantina

Roses Cantina. A bar that is integral to Marty Robbins huge hit El Paso. Where Marty dies trying to get back to Colina dancing at Roses Cantina.