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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 13, 2021, 09:00:25 AM
Sounds like Pitino Jr is going to New Mexico.

https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/richard-pitino-interviewing-for-new-mexico-job-on-saturday/

QuoteRemember if Richard Pitino can find a "soft landing spot", it's possible the University of Minnesota could avoid paying his $1.75 million buyout.

We should be encouraging a similar "soft landing spot" and waiving the buyout. Easy solution.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 13, 2021, 11:28:51 AM
https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/richard-pitino-interviewing-for-new-mexico-job-on-saturday/

We should be encouraging a similar "soft landing spot" and waiving the buyout. Easy solution.

If his last name wasn't Pitino he's be trying to sell you real hardwood flooring instead of luxury vinyl. Classic coaching fail son,
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 13, 2021, 11:34:46 AM
If his last name wasn't Pitino he's be trying to sell you real hardwood flooring instead of luxury vinyl. Classic coaching fail son,

And if Wojo wasn't K's de facto son he'd be announcing high school games on local radio. Seems perfectly analagous. Get the guy a golden parachute out of town and move on.

MU82

Quote from: Warriors4ever on March 13, 2021, 10:11:36 AM
Look I want to win too, but Pitino Sr has way too much baggage.

Meh. Given Hausershima and its aftermath, Rick Effen Pitino can bring his Samsonite, American Tourister, Tumi, Hartmann and Travelpro with him to Marquette!!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

The Athletic's Bob Kravitz says HoosierLand wants no more of Archie Miller, and this will really resonate with most Scoopers

https://theathletic.com/2444717/2021/03/11/kravitz-hoosiers-faithful-spiraling-toward-apathy-if-iu-wont-fire-archie-miller/?source=weeklyemail

It's a subscription site, so I won't cut and paste the whole thing, but here's a little taste ...

Thankfully, mercifully, the Indiana basketball season ended Thursday night. It ended with nearly 10 minutes of abject, almost comical awfulness, the Hoosiers failing to score a field goal in the final 9 minutes, 50 seconds of its 61-50 Big Ten Tournament loss to Rutgers. And it ended with fans — yes, real-life, candy-stripe-wearing, invective-spewing fans — heartily and clearly chanting "Fire Archie! Fire Archie! Fire Archie!"

Did he hear it, athletic director Scott Dolson? Of course he heard it. He had to hear it, the angry noise echoing throughout the sparsely filled stands at Lucas Oil Stadium, the season ending with an audible thud, six straight losses, some more egregious than others, skidding to a halt well short of an NCAA Tournament berth.

At least Hoosiers fans still care enough to be miffed, but for how long? When does this turn into outright apathy? It's a truly astounding thing to think or say. This is Indiana. Five banners. History without compare. And yet, here we are in a state that venerates basketball, a sport that courses through our veins as its lifeblood, and fans are nearing the point where they just don't care any longer.

That's how far the Hoosiers have fallen. They can't shoot. They can't defend, finishing 12th in the league in opponents' points-per-possession. And it's been this way for the better part of four years. What is this program's calling card? What is it known for, besides an inability to make a shot?

Yes, it would cost Dolson a whole lot of money to buy out Miller, and the optics of spending $10 million-plus to fire a coach while the budget bleeds due to pandemic-related losses are not favorable. This is a year when everybody in college athletics is cutting budgets and experiencing furloughs; it's not a particularly good look.  But how much does this athletic department stand to lose if fans — especially younger fans who don't remember when Indiana hoops mattered like nothing else — quit caring? Can you imagine scores of empty seats at Assembly Hall when fans are allowed back in? Yes, you can.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Lens

It is just unfathomable to me that we're going to retain Wojo.  I have never experienced more apathy and negativity about #mubb.   If MU thinks fans will just forget and get back on board next November they are doing a terrible job reading the room.  My MU circle is comprised of dozens of even keeled fans, with moderate expectations and appreciation for how tough it is to win as a Catholic school in Milwaukee and yet they are all past the boiling point. 

What concerns me is how many of my circles have just shifted into complete apathy. 

None of this is good.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

4everwarriors

Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 13, 2021, 11:09:09 AM
Quick!!  Someone get on the horn to Calderone Club to get the fettucine started...



Eye'd spring four dinner at Zarletti's, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MU82 on March 13, 2021, 12:10:23 PM
The Athletic's Bob Kravitz says HoosierLand wants no more of Archie Miller, and this will really resonate with most Scoopers

https://theathletic.com/2444717/2021/03/11/kravitz-hoosiers-faithful-spiraling-toward-apathy-if-iu-wont-fire-archie-miller/?source=weeklyemail

It's a subscription site, so I won't cut and paste the whole thing, but here's a little taste ...

Thankfully, mercifully, the Indiana basketball season ended Thursday night. It ended with nearly 10 minutes of abject, almost comical awfulness, the Hoosiers failing to score a field goal in the final 9 minutes, 50 seconds of its 61-50 Big Ten Tournament loss to Rutgers. And it ended with fans — yes, real-life, candy-stripe-wearing, invective-spewing fans — heartily and clearly chanting "Fire Archie! Fire Archie! Fire Archie!"

Did he hear it, athletic director Scott Dolson? Of course he heard it. He had to hear it, the angry noise echoing throughout the sparsely filled stands at Lucas Oil Stadium, the season ending with an audible thud, six straight losses, some more egregious than others, skidding to a halt well short of an NCAA Tournament berth.

At least Hoosiers fans still care enough to be miffed, but for how long? When does this turn into outright apathy? It's a truly astounding thing to think or say. This is Indiana. Five banners. History without compare. And yet, here we are in a state that venerates basketball, a sport that courses through our veins as its lifeblood, and fans are nearing the point where they just don't care any longer.

That's how far the Hoosiers have fallen. They can't shoot. They can't defend, finishing 12th in the league in opponents' points-per-possession. And it's been this way for the better part of four years. What is this program's calling card? What is it known for, besides an inability to make a shot?

Yes, it would cost Dolson a whole lot of money to buy out Miller, and the optics of spending $10 million-plus to fire a coach while the budget bleeds due to pandemic-related losses are not favorable. This is a year when everybody in college athletics is cutting budgets and experiencing furloughs; it's not a particularly good look.  But how much does this athletic department stand to lose if fans — especially younger fans who don't remember when Indiana hoops mattered like nothing else — quit caring? Can you imagine scores of empty seats at Assembly Hall when fans are allowed back in? Yes, you can.


Indiana hasn't won a championship since '87... and I was 6 years old.  The IU faithful have a distorted view of where their program currently is.  Are they a great program?  Sure.  But their blue blood status is very much in doubt.

NickelDimer

Quote from: The Lens on March 13, 2021, 12:15:16 PM
It is just unfathomable to me that we're going to retain Wojo.  I have never experienced more apathy and negativity about #mubb.   If MU thinks fans will just forget and get back on board next November they are doing a terrible job reading the room.  My MU circle is comprised of dozens of even keeled fans, with moderate expectations and appreciation for how tough it is to win as a Catholic school in Milwaukee and yet they are all past the boiling point. 

What concerns me is how many of my circles have just shifted into complete apathy. 

None of this is good.
I find it equally unfathomable. So much so that I refuse to believe he's going to be back.
No Finish Line

MU82

Quote from: The Lens on March 13, 2021, 12:15:16 PM
It is just unfathomable to me that we're going to retain Wojo.  I have never experienced more apathy and negativity about #mubb.   If MU thinks fans will just forget and get back on board next November they are doing a terrible job reading the room.  My MU circle is comprised of dozens of even keeled fans, with moderate expectations and appreciation for how tough it is to win as a Catholic school in Milwaukee and yet they are all past the boiling point. 

What concerns me is how many of my circles have just shifted into complete apathy. 

None of this is good.

Are y'all season ticket holders? Cancel 'em and make sure you let Scholl & Co. know why.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Viper

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 13, 2021, 12:22:00 PM
Indiana hasn't won a championship since '87... and I was 6 years old.  The IU faithful have a distorted view of where their program currently is.  Are they a great program?  Sure.  But their blue blood status is very much in doubt.
...IU is still a big boy. IU fans don't have a distorted view of where their program is. Rather, they get it. They suck and they know it, and they are desperate...just like us. We suck. We know it. We are desperate to get out of mediocre hell.
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Eye

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 13, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
And if Wojo wasn't K's de facto son he'd be announcing high school games on local radio. Seems perfectly analagous. Get the guy a golden parachute out of town and move on.

As a guy who does PBP for high schools games on local radio (and PA for college games), I'm extremely triggered by the comparison to Wojo.
GO WARRIORS!

Silent Verbal

Quote from: Eye on March 13, 2021, 03:06:35 PM
As a guy who does PBP for high schools games on local radio (and PA for college games), I'm extremely triggered by the comparison to Wojo.

Wojo would crap his pants if he had to do PBP or color commentary of any kind.  The guy's got less charisma than a rock.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

willie warrior

Quote from: The Lens on March 13, 2021, 12:15:16 PM
It is just unfathomable to me that we're going to retain Wojo.  I have never experienced more apathy and negativity about #mubb.   If MU thinks fans will just forget and get back on board next November they are doing a terrible job reading the room.  My MU circle is comprised of dozens of even keeled fans, with moderate expectations and appreciation for how tough it is to win as a Catholic school in Milwaukee and yet they are all past the boiling point. 

What concerns me is how many of my circles have just shifted into complete apathy. 

None of this is good.
Absolutely. The bottom feeder continues its descent.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Herman Cain

Pitino and Iona cruising to an NCAA automatic invite.

Pretty good for his first year on the job.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

JWags85

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 13, 2021, 04:33:31 PM
Pitino and Iona cruising to an NCAA automatic invite.

Pretty good for his first year on the job.

For a team in a 1 bid league (with some reasonably successful programs historically like Canisius, Manhattan, Monmouth, and Siena) this is Iona's 10th conference tourney title and NCAA appearance in 20 years, across 3 coaches. That's pretty remarkable

naginiF

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 13, 2021, 04:33:31 PM

Pretty good for his first year on the job.
Agree.

But.........Iona has won that tournament the last 5 years in a row. Some of those years were without RP as a coach.

Mu8891

Indiana is no longer a
"Blue Blood " ... they have lost 6 or
7 in a row to RUTGERS !!

They are a train wreck... just like MU.

Miller cannot get it done.  Neither can
Wojo. But IU might act on it ...

I'm not sure Steve and staff know what they are in for at the FF next year

Warriors4ever

Ok I did a double take at your use of FF, which to me means the Final Four....

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Eye on March 13, 2021, 03:06:35 PM
As a guy who does PBP for high schools games on local radio (and PA for college games), I'm extremely triggered by the comparison to Wojo.

From the bottom of my heart, my sincerest apologies! I'm sure you are actually good at the job!

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

erubiel

Quote from: Warriors4ever on March 13, 2021, 06:43:12 PM
Ok I did a double take at your use of FF, which to me means the Final Four....

It does mean Final Four. Next year's FF is where the MU staff will be looking for work.

Eye

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 14, 2021, 06:32:43 AM
From the bottom of my heart, my sincerest apologies! I'm sure you are actually good at the job!

Thanks Ellenson. LOL. Not to get too far off topic, but when you work in a small market, you don't really know for sure how good you are at the job (not a ton of desire to move up because the job allows me to continue to coach HS baseball, which is the real passion). Best gauge this year is whether players families were appreciative of your work with them not being able to attend all games in person, and a fair number of them were.
GO WARRIORS!

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