Give Killings the Keys

[1SE]

Now? Or is an almost-comeback/ almost turn the season around worth a couple years of extension?

[MU82]

Time to make the break. Today.

Wojo is not evil, and is not even a horrible coach. Horrible coaches don't recruit like he has and don't go to the NCAA tournament 3 times in 4 years.

He simply isn't good enough. We simply can do better. 6 1/2 years has given us plenty of time to see that a change is necessary.

[4everwarriors]

Nah Nads, iz Stuper Bowl Sunday. Wee won't get no ink in da papers wit dis nail bitin' decision. Gotta wait, aina?

[WhiteTrash]

Now? Or is an almost-comeback/ almost turn the season around worth a couple years of extension?

LOL!

All jokes aside, Wojo has done nothing in the past two years (since his last extension) to justify an extension. IF MU gives him an extension (something I doubt) it would be to set the table for a small buyout after next year.  It maybe a solid strategy by MU but it could also take the wind out of Wojo's sails and we could see him mail it in next year.

Such is the world of big time college basketball. There are no great options when programs pick the wrong guy for the job. Nothing unique to MU.

[NorthernDancerColt]

Nah Nads, iz Stuper Bowl Sunday. Wee won't get no ink in da papers wit dis nail bitin' decision. Gotta wait, aina?

Buhht wirunt yu sayun ink-in-da-papers wasint emportunt wen Markus browt it 2 us doe?

[NorthernDancerColt]

LOL!

All jokes aside, Wojo has done nothing in the past two years (since his last extension) to justify an extension. IF MU gives him an extension (something I doubt) it would be to set the table for a small buyout after next year.  It maybe a solid strategy by MU but it could also take the wind out of Wojo's sails and we could see him mail it in next year.

Such is the world of big time college basketball. There are no great options when programs pick the wrong guy for the job. Nothing unique to MU.

Nope.

For "Removing Wind 💨 from Sails 🚣‍♀️" see Buzz/Larry/Pilarz

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Buhht wirunt yu sayun ink-in-da-papers wasint emportunt wen Markus browt it 2 us doe?

The goal is not to have a good player.

Our kenpom during the Markus era was 31, 33, 53, 32.  Definition of mediocre. The fact we couldn't build a decent team around an all American is actually the most damning example that Wojo isn't up for it. 

[CountryRoads]

I don't know much about how programs use their assistant coaches, but aren't all 3 guys usually recruiting? Who have Gainey or Prusetti brought to the program? I know Killings landed Justin Lewis and Torrence, but not sure who is/was the lead on any of the other current players or incoming players.

[The Sultan]

I don't know much about how programs use their assistant coaches, but aren't all 3 guys usually recruiting? Who have Gainey or Prusetti brought to the program? I know Killings landed Justin Lewis and Torrence, but not sure who is/was the lead on any of the other current players or incoming players.

Gainey was the lead recruiter with Aidoo. He's only been here since last summer so that's probably it.

No idea about Prusetti.

[The Sultan]

LOL!

All jokes aside, Wojo has done nothing in the past two years (since his last extension) to justify an extension. IF MU gives him an extension (something I doubt) it would be to set the table for a small buyout after next year.  It maybe a solid strategy by MU but it could also take the wind out of Wojo's sails and we could see him mail it in next year.

Such is the world of big time college basketball. There are no great options when programs pick the wrong guy for the job. Nothing unique to MU.

Why would he mail it in when it would be easier for MU to fire him?

[YoungMUFan4]

I don%u2019t know much about how programs use their assistant coaches, but aren%u2019t all 3 guys usually recruiting? Who have Gainey or Prusetti brought to the program? I know Killings landed Justin Lewis and Torrence, but not sure who is/was the lead on any of the other current players or incoming players.

Here's what i recollect as far as the lead assistant on each guy

Current:
Carton--??
McKewen--Stan
Elliott--??
Cain--Stan
Torrence--Killings
John--Stan
Perez--Killings
Akanno--Stan
Lewis--Killings
Oso--Stan
Garcia--Stan

Incoming:
Mitchell--Killings
Jones--Killings
Aidoo--Gainey

[WhiteTrash]

Nope.

For "Removing Wind 💨 from Sails 🚣‍♀️" see Buzz/Larry/Pilarz

I don't follow. "Nope" it would not it would not take the wind out of Wojo's sails? Buzz/Larry/Pilarz have used up MU's coaches' ability to have the wind taken from their sails the next 20 years?

I assume you then think it is a solid strategy to extend him to position MU for a low buyout next year? I would not disagree with that position. 

[CountryRoads]

Gainey was the lead recruiter with Aidoo. He's only been here since last summer so that's probably it.

No idea about Prusetti.

Which looks to be a nice get, so thank you. YoungMUFan4 provided a list and I'm not seeing Prusetti's name listed at all. Was just wondering what his role was.

[brewcity77]

Here's what i recollect as far as the lead assistant on each guy

Current:
Carton--??
McKewen--Stan
Elliott--??
Cain--Stan
Torrence--Killings
John--Stan
Perez--Killings
Akanno--Stan
Lewis--Killings
Oso--Stan
Garcia--Stan

Incoming:
Mitchell--Killings
Jones--Killings
Aidoo--Gainey

I thought both Cain & Elliott were Brett Nelson recruits.

[MU82]

I thought DJ was a Wojo recruit. Isn't the story that DJ was at Wojo's camp and that they had built a relationship that mattered once DJ became a free agent? Or am I thinking of somebody else?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Time to make the break. Today.

Wojo is not evil, and is not even a horrible coach. Horrible coaches don't recruit like he has and don't go to the NCAA tournament 3 times in 4 years.

He simply isn't good enough. We simply can do better. 6 1/2 years has given us plenty of time to see that a change is necessary.

If they didn't want to fire him before the Creighton game, nothing that happened during the Creighton game that would have changed that opinion.

[MU82]

If they didn't want to fire him before the Creighton game, nothing that happened during the Creighton game that would have changed that opinion.

Of course you are correct. I don't expect them to fire him after the season, either, even if we end up with only the same 9 wins we have today.

Doesn't change my opinion, which I think is reasonable. I know you disagree about firing him in the season, and I respect that.

[cheebs09]

I don't know that firing him mid-season is the best move. For one, I don't want them to think Killings is the guy if they go on a little bit of a run at the end of the year just because they made some changes. Gard is turning out to be a good coach, but it put them in pretty awkward position.

Also, I don't know that a mid-season firing makes this job more attractive to other coaches.

[We R Final Four]

Gard is turning out to be a good coach, but it put them in pretty awkward position.

....by Bo's design.

[vogue65]

YOU'RE FIRED!

Good for T.V., but no way to run a railroad.
To continue, we are on the right track notwithstanding that is very, very painful to watch.

[1SE]

Now? Or do we cut Wojo slack because had  he had Lewis this wouldn't have been a 32 point loss?

[GoldenWarrior11]

Clean house. We shouldn't want any fingerprint of the Wojo era in our program moving forward.

[HutchwasClutch]

Clean house. We shouldn't want any fingerprint of the Wojo era in our program moving forward.

Exactly!  Almost as insane as keeping the Duke failure. There's zero reason to believe any of them can coach. They're part of this raging dumpster fire after all.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Bring back Wainwright as caretaker coach.

[Shooter McGavin]

Bring back Wainwright as caretaker coach.

That is funny.  Thank you.  Now I can go to bed smiling.